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Can /his/ explain the beliefs and teachings of Italian fascism? Im going to be learning it next week and want to impress my teacher beforehand
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>>935327
Also their history and rise to power of course
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>>935327
If you want to impress your teacher just read the Wikipedia article.
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>>935351
Wikipedia is for /pol/

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R8 My Theory

Eroticism and violence are objectively the same but subjectively different
Pure Violence: Exclusive
>Lion is hungry, lion is aware and intends to eat the gazelle which is unaware of the lions hunger or intention, lion kills gazelle.
>Anxiety caused by: aversion of own death
>Win condition: Relieve anxiety through death of other
Pure Eroticism: Inclusive
>Person A has desire to have sex with person B, Person B has desire to have sex with person A, Persons A and B have sex.
>Anxiety caused by: want for sex
>Win condition: Relieve anxiety through Orgasm
In both cases anxiety is caused by homeostasis (visceral needs) or perceived obstruction of freedom (conflicting interest).
Resolution of anxiety by attaining visceral needs
Homeostasis
>Killing secures means of survival (saftey, resources) therefore violence seeks to maintain homeostasis
>Sex is a visceral need (theoretically), therefore eroticism seeks to maintain homeostasis
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However Eroticism and Violence do not manifest themselves in the absolutely pure form for the most part. Because of this there arises conflicting interest when relieving anxiety for one subject causes anxiety for another. This is the obstruction of freedom.
Mitigated Violence: responsive violence
>When the gazelle becomes aware of the lion's intentions it can either fight back or flee, seeking to relieve anxiety in the same way the lion seeks to relieve anxiety
Aggravated Eroticism: Single aggressor
>If person A wants to have sex with person B but person B does not, than person A has anxiety which they intend to relieve but person B does not have this anxiety (or has it to a lesser extent). This restricts Person A's ability to relieve anxiety, and any attempt person A makes to relieve this anxiety will cause anxiety to person B.
When Violence or Eroticism move beyond their functional forms they become 'emotional behaviours'. These behaviours seek to fulfill the subjective want opposed to the objective need.
Aggravated Violence: unnecessary violence
>No (less) visceral anxiety, goal is to kill (although other benefits may result).
Mitigated Eroticism: altruistic relationships
>No (less) visceral anxiety, goal is not sex (although sex may be present)
The difference between all these things are based in subjectivity
Things that are subjectively 'right' (far left/right of spectrum) relieve anxiety or satisfy needs. Things that are subjectively 'wrong' (center of the spectrum) increase anxiety and either fail to satisfy needs or create new needs.
Subjective appraisal of 'right' or 'wrong' will increase or decrease general anxiety
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Far Left (dealing with 'I' vs 'Them')
>Say you are a hunter and a deer has been eating the flowers from your front lawn, if you were to kill this deer it would be 'aggravated violence'. I propose that one would be caused less anxiety by eating the meat of this troublesome deer than they would be caused by eating beef from a cow who's reason for dying was to satisfy hunger (pure violence). And you would feel the greatest anxiety from eating another human, if you were aware of the extent their aversion to death (mitigated violence).
- Note: the "humanness" of meat is not the defining factor. If you truly wanted to kill another person I propose you would not be caused great anxiety by additionally eating them, and you would feel great distress if you were to eat your family dog simply because you were hungry and had no other food available.
Far Right (dealing with 'I' and 'Them')
>Despite what Freud has to say about subconscious sexuality, many men and women find that (if they have a 'healthy' relationship) their relationship with their opposite sex parent is 'ideal' (an example of mitigated eroticism). The reason you love your mother or father is not because you want to have sex with them, but instead because the relationship relieves anxiety through communication, acceptance, and other social desires. A sexual partner like a spouse will also reduce anxiety (also mitigated eroticism), however a relationship that exists only for sex and lacks the wide array of social desires would do much less to reduce anxiety (Pure eroticism). These are followed by behaviours such as stalking or rape (aggravated eroticism), which cause great anxiety for the non-consenting party , while doing little to reduce the anxiety of the aggressor and quite possibly creating new sources of anxiety.
- Note: I am using consent loosely to define shared interest
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The Center (Heterostasis)
>The center point is the point of the greatest anxiety. This is caused by the switch between the exclusive and inclusive nature of goals on the opposing ends.
Exclusive goals are most attainable if free will is exercised only by the individual
>If we respect the desires of the cow, and promote or even aid the cow in exercising its free will the dairy and beef industries would fall apart.
Inclusive goals are most attainable if interest is shared by all stakeholders
>Everyone wants to have friends. If were to incarcerate your 'friends' they would be more readily available to you, but less inclined/likely to supply you with the social desires that lead to us wanting friends in the first place.
To reduce anxiety, one should deviate from the center as much as possible
>Rape is less pleasurable than platonic friendship
>Killing your enemies is more satisfying than fighting off an attacker

Best wife of Henry VIII? Worst wife?

What do you think about the traditional 'narrative' presented for each of the wives, which hasn't changed much in the 20th century? Is it time for a refreshed look at their lives?
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>>935181
OFFICIAL HENRY VIII WIFE BANGABILITY POWER RANKINGS

1. ANNE BOLEYN
2. KATHRYN HOWARD
3. ANNE OF CLEVES
4. KATHERINE PARR
5. JANE SEYMORE
6. CATHERINE OF ARAGON
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Anne of Cleves was a qt
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>>935181
>Best
Jane. A thousand times Jane.

>Worst
Howard

Be back later to defend my choices.

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Were there any families among Europe's nobility that could reliably trace their descent from Roman aristocracy as opposed to Germanic/Slavic racketeers?
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I believe there was a daughter of the Palaelogian dynasty of Eastern Rome who married a prince of Swabia in the HRE, and proceeded to intermarry with other royals.
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>>934856
And then some Russian leader claimed the title Tsar by marrying with the princess of the Byzantine empire.
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>>934847
Byzantines married off a bunch of princesses, mostly to other Orthodox rulers.

Also Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descent_from_antiquity#Rome_to_Charlemagne

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Which democratic system is historically more successful, two-party system or multi-party system?
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>>933961
Generally a two party system gets shit done, though the us is rapidly proving that wrong.
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>>934232
That's because the president isn't a supreme dictator, there's a congress made up of both parties who have the right to stifle his decisions
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Define successful.

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Is the modern human becoming more utilitarian compared to the past ?
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>>933680
Probably.

Deontology and Virtue are dying out it seems.
What is the cause? My guess is it has something to do with the growth of Capitalism/materialism.
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>>933700
You said probably and then statead the opposite of what OP said.

Also you're wrong.
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More hedonist, not more utilitarian. Most people are egoistic hedonists.

>>933700
>What is the cause? My guess is it has something to do with the growth of Capitalism/materialism.

Ignorance.

ITT We discuss underrated people that had a large impact on our /his/tory.
Could be anybody. Religion, architecture, military, political etc.
Mine is Mimar Sinan, 16th century ottoman architect
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>>933209
How you suffered silently trough the ages. I cried for you, I died for you,yo are forever in my heart, OP.

Dont live in fear, nor in regret. You shall forgive but never forget
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>>933209
How the piglets would squeal if they knew how the old boar suffered
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>>933209
Why do people kill and hate each other when our ancestors all came from the same family. Is nt ther enough to share or is it that we just don't care we're here for a day or two... let me me show my way Salaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam uliakum salaam uilaikm slam aliumkum ehehehehe

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whats a good and enjoyable read about the early middle ages?
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>>932970
none exist
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The Song of Roland
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>>932970

>early middle ages


Any history about Byzantium, since literally nothing important was happening in western Europe at the time.

Can /his/ tell me about the fundamentals of Italian Fascism and nationalism? I want to be members but don't know all the doctrines and beliefs?
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Sure I'd be glad t
>I want to be members but don't know all the doctrines and beliefs
what
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>>932300
I understand the basics of fascist and nationalist views but dont know their views on every topic
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>>932323
http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/mussolini.htm

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How do you know other people (or animals) undergo conscious experience?
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>>932089
You don't.
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>>932089
>>932115
Everytime a friend starts going into circlejerk existential nonsense I want to punch him or her in the nose as hard as I can.

It's more difficult to doubt reality with blood pouring down your chin.
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>>932125
that still isn't "proving" objective reality edgemeister

ITT post literally any sourced historical fact

>Both in France and in England, the custom existed of refusing confession and the extreme unction to a criminal condemned to death. Sufferings and fear of death were to be aggravated by the certainty of eternal damnation. In vain had the council of Vienne in 1311 ordered to grant them at least the sacrament of penitence. Towards the end of the fourteenth century the same custom still existed. Charles V himself, moderate though he was, had declared that no change would be made in his lifetime.

Johan Huizinga, The Waning of the Middle Ages, p. 15
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I'm assuming you meant to post this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/special:random
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Wittgenstein worked as a lab assistant in Newcastle’s Royal Victoria Infirmary during the war. His Jesmond landlady said he was chatty in the morning, to the annoyance of the other lodgers, but morose in the evenings.
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my dick is hella big
source: me

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What was the greatest mistake in history?

Hard mode:
>Not Treaty of Versailles
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Communism

Anime
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The Egyptian failure to wipe out the Hebrews.
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Splitting the Roman Empire.

can anyone recommend a good book on the middle ages? like one that states the history of all these weird fucking kingdoms I don't know anything about like the bosporan kingdom and shit?

also, kind of related, can anyone recommend any good books on the history of byzantium?
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Pretty generic term m8

Try browsing Wikipedia articles until you find a particular era and/or kingdom or empire that interests you then ask for books on it
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>>931272
well I was looking more into like the era of charlemagne and all that stuff
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>>931277
http://pastebin.com/QYMYkwq8

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>Eastern
Cardinal direction is subjective.

>Roman
Latin was not spoken. Rome had no influence.

>Empire
Only for the first few hundred years. Afterwards it was just a shitshow.

Despite all of this, /his/ will say the Byzantine Empire was a legitimate successor to the Roman Empire. Meanwhile, /his/ says the Mongol Empire died only a generation or two after Genghis Khan and left no successor states. /his/ must be hypocritical, in that the Mongol Empire left numerous successor states (Ilkhanate, Yuan Dynasty, Mughal Empire, the Hordes, etc.) which were much more comparable to the Mongol Empire than Byzantium was to the Roman Empire.

So /his/, why do you continue to hold an anti-Mongol bias? Isn't history supposed to be neutral?
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History is anti-Mongol leaning :^)
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>>930859
>Cardinal direction is subjective.
it's relative tho
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Fuck off, Voltaire

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In front of you, there are two objects.

One is real, and the other is a indistinguishable fake.

Which one is worth more?
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i think the anime says the second one but i dont remember why
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>>930368
The second one, I would imagine.

It existing is proof that the first object can be replicated exactly, which is of course, always worth something to someone who might require more than one of said object.
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>>930368
If it's indistinguishable, in what way is it a fake?

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