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What would have been a realistic end date for slavery in a victorious CSA? It seems like farm mechanization would have made the institution obsolete fairly quickly after the 1860s.

Also, after British cotton production in India ended the world's sole reliance on the South for it international pressure and trade sanctions would have probably done the institution in before the 1890s or earlier as well.

Also, general Dixieboo thread too, I guess.
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>>946308
Actually mechanization caused slavery to entrench itself, as the cotton gin was what made it so profitable.
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>>946308

1880 or so, which is probably how long it would take the north to lick it's wounds and attack again.
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>>946322
>>946332

https://vine.co/v/ij2YmZQdYwn

https://vine.co/v/ijQEhV73Vvn

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SOCIALIST REALISM

discuss
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What if I want a ferrari when the government is giving away honda civics?
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shitty forced 'art' that was comprehensively REKT by Bulgakov.
Next.
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Everybody is a fucking asshole.
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Wow...
Calm down...
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>>944521
A very based man, that Mengzi
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>Giving help to the destitute is both unwise and unfair because it takes from the industrious and frugal and rewards the lazy and prodigal
Why were the Legalists so redpilled?

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Why exactly did this idea of strong pike walls get abandoned for hundreds and hundreds of years?
The Phalangite phalanx was an incredible formation, especially when it was in it's prime in Alexanders day, with lighter men which meant better mobility, helping nullify the phalanx's great weakness
They were also resistant to missile fire, forming a tight wall of pikes that would make missiles get tangled and fall harmlessly
Combined arms of heavy Phalangites to hold and more mobile Phalanx's to support backed by god tier cavalry was truly a great tactic
So why did everyone just stop using it?
It caused massive issues for Romans, and they only countered it with terrain and poor Macedon leadership
Didn't they see the use in it?
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>>943790
Because Roman legions were superior and after the dumb germanic barbarians destroyed the roman military they just never really reinvented it
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>>943790
Phalanx working only in perfectly flat terrain would be my guess.
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>phalanxes
>resistant to missile fire

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I see that western culture is jerking off on Sparta.
But looking at it realistically, Spartans were bunch of uptight barbarians, especially compare to Athens.
They were society of boyfuckers and cousinfuckers where small percentage of population brutally subjugated, enslaved and murdered majority.
What are their achievements of science, philosophy and art?
Even in warfare they werent something exceptional, getting btfo by Corinth.
But hey at least they defeated Athens in peloponnesian war, ensuring end of the golden age for most advanced civilization of the day, and even managed to fuck up hegemony at record speed.
Is there any redeeming quality that Sparta posssed besides muh brave 300 and why is it so glorified today
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Spartans lived their philosophy, they didn't write anything because they didn't need to. Hence their "Laconic spirit".

If you understand that, you will get why virtually all of classical Greece from Plato, Thucydides,Xenophon, Aristotle to Plutarch admired them.
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>>943124

>"After being invited to dine at a public table, the sophist Hecataeus was criticized for failing to utter a single word during the entire meal. Archidamidas answered in his defense, "He who knows how to speak, knows also when."

Sparta bringing the bants.
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Still its shitty philosophy, so greatest spartan achievement were edgy one liners

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Why did the proletariat fail to rise up and seize the means of production from the bourgeoisie? The global revolution should have happened by now.
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>>942677
because humans aren't computers
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Labour unions
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The ruling class would never allow it

For you people in a single image, what define The First World War?
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/his/ is like 25% WW1/WW2 photos.

Jesus Christ.
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German soldiers trying to save a Frenchman from drowning in a mudd hole.
Because of how the people that killed each other really didn't have any reasons to hate each other.
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>>941437
that's touching

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I didn't quite catch that, can you repeat what you said?
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>>941320
>holy
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>>941323
>ROMAN
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>>941326
MEMES

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Library link as usual-
Temple of Solomon the King (occultism, esotericism, anthropology and religion resources):

https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ
(For the topic of this thread, scroll down to Gnostic Studies).

This is going to be another thread that's hard to approach. It takes 300 pages to give outlines of Gnosticism so I can only give the crudest sketches while directing folks to primary source material.

Who, or what, where the Gnostics? A Christian sect is the easy answer, but you'll quickly find that their opponents painted them as immoral Godless heretics, and their modern extreme apologists like to paint them as innocent contemplative ascetics. The truth is either in between, or both; Gnosticism is not a monolithic ideology. It comes in many strains and flavors: Ophites, Sethites, Mandaeans, Valentineans, Barbeloites, etc., etc., etc., the list goes on. For better or worse, the literature on Gnosticism is better in German, so I'll be borrowing quotes from snippets of translation. RE: The nature of the Gnostic cults - Sloterdijk's distinction between libertine and ascetic Gnosis is illuminating:

>"The amoral style leads to a homeopathic ascetic: this weakens the Evil of sin, in that they are committed thoughtfully and ironically, as if by quota: the Gnostic embraces the sin and experiences thereby a critical decay in his own body, finally to climb out of the gutter fully burnt out. — The world is a pornographic purgatory, from which to filter the immaculate Pneumata. The abstaining style, in contrast, applies allopathic methods against the sickness of the World: against the poisons of the cosmos it administers immediate flight from the world as an antidote. Civil disobedience against the lower body, general strike against the astral works, bathings in tears, fasting of the heart."
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This begs some questions: At the beginning of the 3rd C. Clement of Alexandria condemns the Carpocratians for their rites which he describes as excuses to indulge in gluttony and lust. A little while later Celsus accuses Origen of doing this shit, and he quickly points the finger at the Ophites. What's less known is that even the Gnostics were accusing each other of practicing this sort of thing: Pistis Sophia curses, even into the outer darkness, in the name of Christ, those who eat of a lentil dish made with semen and menstrual blood. Two Egyptian testimonies appear in the 3-4th C. that continue this motif, probably in the vein of Phibionite festive meals. The Book of Jesu condemns similar practices. Oddly, though someone then in turn accuses the Barbeloites (who consider the text Pistis Sophia as a core component of their faith, the one that condemns sexual practices) of “obscene rites:...Epiphanius (died. 403) makes this claim in Panarion 26. Irenaeus accuses some Gnostic sect of eating a lentil dish made from menstrual fluid and semen.

A lot of people like to paint the Gnostics writ large as this highly puritanical sort of ascetic group. The fact remains that SOMEONE out there was a dirty degenerate sexual heretic, and I wanna know who, goddamnit. They are probably singularly important for transmitting what few scraps of practice the West inherited.

Gnosticism is characterized by by complex theologies which were borrowed from Neoplatonism and modified according to emerging Christist religion and, to a lesser extent, from the last gasps of the Hekhalot/Merkavah traditions of Hebrew Mysticism. Different sects had different trajectories of practice. The Mandaeans town down the high philosophy in favor of a REJECTION of Christ in favor of John the Baptist and other mythical figures; they become more magick/mythic oriented than dwelling on the taxonomy of reality.
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As mentioned, other groups have more complex cosmologies. Pic related is a diagram of the Ophite cosmos; with it's division of reality into strata. Above is the Kingdom of God as Father and Son, below being the realm of Life, Spirit, and Soul, ruled over by Sophia; manifesting as both Gnosis (Knowledge) and Synesis (Insight). The intersection is Sophia's subtle nature.
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Still others are more complex, such as this diagram of the cosmological structure of the Secret Book of (Apocryphon) John.

Anyhow, the two most important texts I can think of are Kurt Rudolph's “Nature and History of Gnosticism” and “The Other Bible” edited by Willis Barnstone. With these texts one gets enough of a footing and understanding of Gnosticism as a whole to figure out which sects attract one's attention the most so one can focus on a particular sect or denomination that resonates with Self.

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Who would win in their battle against each other?
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>>937574
>dude memes XD
Probably the navy seal depending on how much ammunition he had
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>>937596
Shouldn't be possible for him to kill that many people at once.
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>>937606
With a good distance between him and his opponents and several high capacity weapons? Well...if the scenario were such that each of these groups were unleashed into a varied terrain in which to do battle, I could see one highly skilled man hiding and foraging for a bit while larger groups fought. Occasionally putting down small groups before relocating.

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Why were the 1970's so bleak and depressing?
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What?
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Economic stagnation
Nothing to do
Crime abounds
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>>925899

ny was at the time, i guess

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would you rather witness a speech from Jesus or Muhammad, if you could go back in time?
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Jesus.

Jesus managed convince a bunch of cunts to (literally) eat his own body.

Muhammed was just a normal leader whose disciples were great conquerors.
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neither, since I don't speak ancient goat herder language.
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>>923522
That's Ali pbuh, not Muhammad pbuh.

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Why did it take a Catholic man to rid Europe of Communism while you sat on your asses for 60 years of Bolshevism.
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Not our job.
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>>958209

...only to be taken over by Islamists. Great job!
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>>958231
The world's largest Orthodox country, Russia, have a population that's 15% Muslims.

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>tfw humans will probably be gone, forever, within the next thousand years

I just want to believe we"ll leave earth
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>>957070
Why would that happen
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I don't think we'll be gone, Just that we'll fuck up big time, and hopefully have a longer term perspective after.
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>>957070

En annan Varld. Alfadern ar vor sol. Ulmodern ar vor jord. Skaparan ar ingen gud, skaparen ar vor volk pa vor jord.

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Hello /his/ can you help me dive into philosophy, I've been interested for quite a bit but I have no idea where to start or how to. Thanks
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>>956915
>where to start

WITH THE GREEKS
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>>956915
I'm currently trying to get into it too, I've been making a list and this is the beginning of it

o Intro Books
 The History of Western Philosophy by Bertrand Russel

o Background Books(not important in my opinion)
 Mythology
 The Odyssey
 The Iliad
 The Histories

o Pre-Socratic
 The First Philosophers ISBN-10: 019953909X

o Plato(428BC - 348BC)
 Meno
 Apology
 Crito
 Euthyphro
 Phaedo
 Symposium
 Timaeus
 Lysis
 Ion
 Republic
 Laws


o Aristotle(384BC – 322BC)
 Ethics
 Politics
 On Poetry
 The Organon
 Physics
 On the Soul
 Metaphysics
 Rhetoric

o Epicurus(341BC – 270BC)
 The Essential Epicurus ISBN: 0879758104
 On the Nature of Things ISBN: 9780674992009
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>>956965
Thanks a lot man!

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