Were there edgy artists in Egypt, Rome, etc?
Diogenes
catullus
greek plays are still edgy
Why is it said that Machiavelli created the modern world?
He had sex with prostitutes and then puked on them.
>>961371
That one was particularly ugly though and he was drunk iirc.
Because those people have a very basic view of the world.
Has anyone on this board ever fasted for religious reasons?
>>961075
Yea
>>961075
I've skipped some meals because I felt too lazy to cook shit. That's the closest to fasting I've ever come.
Yup, and I'm going to do it again in about 2 months.
What do you think of LessWrong and the so-called rationalist community?
I'm fine with them.
>>960910
I don't
>>961103
Has reading any of the essays helped you improve your thinking?
Was voltaire ever married?
Is that a Voltaire buttplug?
>Confucius
>Buddha
>Aristotle
>Nietzsche
>Voltaire
All great men, and all unmarried. Clearly philosophical geniuses are either insufferable or just have no patience for the fairer sex.
>>960867
Geniuses of all stripes tend to be pretty strange motherfuckers.
Was the concept of virginity of women important before the abrahamic faiths spread into europe ?
>>960070
You ever hear of the Vestal Virgins?
>>960076
Nope what are they ?
What is Vestal Virgins.
whats the scoop on this old guy
Its nice to hear someone know what they're talking about even as they know nothing about what they're talking about.
Gary Oldman's best role imo
he makes a lot of buddhists buttmad
not really sure why given that he explicitly says "I am not a buddhist" multiple times
given the way he died, is a good example of how anyone can lose their way in life even someone as apparently switched on as him
i started listening to him to relax my nerves
How would Europe look if the central powers had won or fought to a draw, would there have been a second world war, rise of the nazi party and cold war and so on?
>nazi
You mean National Socialist.
They never called themselves "nazi". It's a term coined after the war by the Jews in an attempt to demonize Germany.
>>959263
well, I thought they did as it is "Nationalsozialismus" in german, there for Na-zi, but I may very well be wrong
>>959263
http://www.rarenewspapers.com/view/629454?list_url=%2Flist%3Fq%255Bdate_range_end%255D%3D1945-09-30%2525q%255Bdate_range_start%255D%3D1939-09-01%2525q%255Bquery%255D%3Dnazi%2525q%255Bsearch_method%255D%3DAll%2BWords
>April 6, 1941
Which war was it after?
>refused to fight in WW1 due to pacifism
>when he was too old to fight in WW2 he conveniently decides that some wars could be worth fighting
I would've refused to fight as well but bare lols that his """""""philosophy""""""" couldn't stand one dose of reality. What a load of worthless pseudo intellectual mental masturbation.
>>956382
>says war is ok
>actually fought in a war
Also too cowardly to debate the Eternal Anglo
>>956382
Coward.
>If one goes back to the childhood of nations or if one comes down to our own day, if one looks at societies in every possible stage of development from barbarism to the most advanced civilization, war will always be found.
...
>There is, moreover, good reason for doubting if this violent destruction is in general as great an evil as is believed; at least, it is one of those evils that play a part in an order of things in which everything is violent and against nature and which has its compensations. First, when the human spirit has lost its resilience through indolence, incredulity, and the gangrenous vices that follow an excess of civilization, it can be retempered only in blood. It is far from easy to explain why war produces different effects in different circumstances. What is sufficiently clear is that humanity can be considered as a tree that an invisible hand is continually pruning, often to its benefit. In fact, if its trunk is hacked or if it is pruned badly, a tree can die, but who knows the limits for the human tree? What we do know is that a great deal of bloodshed is often connected with a high population, as has been seen particularly in the ancient Greek republics and in Spain under Arab domination. The platitudes on war mean nothing: no great intelligence is needed to know that the more men killed, the fewer at that moment remain, just as the more branches are cut, the fewer remain on the tree. It is the results of the operation that must be considered. However, to stick to the comparison, the skilled gardener prunes less to ensure growth as such than to ensure the fructification of the tree; he requires fruit, and not wood or leaves from the plant. Now the true fruits of human nature - the arts, sciences, great enterprises, noble ideas, manly virtues - spring above all from the state of war. It is well known that nations reach the apex of the greatness of which they are capable only after long and bloody wars.
Is he right?
>>955989
>It is well known that nations reach the apex of the greatness of which they are capable only after long and bloody wars.
WWI and WWII gave us post-modernism and modern art. He's wrong.
>>956185
also gave us the very internet you typed your shitpost on you humongous hypocrit
>>956202
>Arts are corrupted by the Bourgeoisie
>Great enterprises are corrupted by Globalization
>Noble ideas are corrupted by Political Correctness
>Manly virtues are corrupted by feminism
>Sciences became a dogma, replacing religion or/and any kind of transcendental union
"But atleast w-we've got the internet, right g-guys?"
De Maistre himself would be fucking crying if he was still alive.
How was Latin replaced by Italian in the Italian peninsula?
>>957768
Because Italian is just Latin after a few hundred years.
Language evolves and shit. Especially among the common people. Multiple dialects existed in Italy up until Italian was standardized in the 1800s.
>>957773
>Because
The question is "how", not "why".
As opposed to, say, Semite religions like Christianity?
Also how do you like my new tattoo /his/?
It is an Aryan religion
But if you're not Iranian or North Indian then you're retarded
Indo-Iranian, which I guess makes it Aryan (though that's sort of a silly term to use.)
Zorastrianism is a Iranic religion as is therefore Proto-Indo European (Aryan). It cant be said if it is an evolution of an Aryan Proto-Religion, even if such a religion existed and influenced later ones. If you mean to say, is it a religion of an Aryan peoples, then yes, it is.
Are you personally a Persian though?
>"Wellington was a better general than Napoleon, because he beat him. End of story."
Aren't you forgetting someone else?
>>956538
Blücher was shit. Did nothing of worth against ol' Nappy.
>>956564
Truly, the Eternal Anglo graces us with his presence
How did the discoveries of quantum mechanics change the philosophical conception of metaphysics and ontology?
>>954275
It made metaphilosophy completely irrelevant but philosophers aren't good enough at math to truly comprehend how badly QM bent our fundamental understanding of reality on its head so they persist in their meaningless mind exercises.
>>954275
They didn't from a Nietzschean perspective.
>>954322
Some philosophy is still useful - but only as an adjunct to scientific inquiry. Most useful philosophy of the last few centuries was either inspired by science or dealt with science.
Meanwhile, the most useless and vacuous philosophy (a la French "critical theory" and postmodernism) is a disgrace at a level that is found nowhere in science.
What do you make of antinatalism?
Personally I agree with it, and practice antinatalism (I don't, and wont have children).
Human life is fundamentally bad. We are biological machines who must constantly struggle to maintain bodily homeostasis (of warmth, ph, blood pressure, hydration, blood glucose, etc, etc,), and we must also constantly struggle to maintain our mood, which relies on things like self-esteem, social contact, having things to look forward to, etc, etc.
If we don't maintain all these things within a narrow range, we will suffer. Eventually we will die. Even if we maintain perfectly we will eventually die anyway.
Essentially, life involves a perpetual struggle to avoid suffering. What we are rewarded with, for this struggle is not pleasure but rather a state of "not feeling bad". This soon turns into boredom, which must be struggled against. If you want to experience pleasure you must first struggle to maintain homeostasis, and then work to produce pleasure. Pleasure is not guaranteed in life, only suffering. The amount of suffering in life far outweighs the pleasure. Children cannot consent to being born. Non-existence children are not harmed by not being born. Non-existent children are not suffering, which is a good thing. We should leave them with their non-existence. There's no need to disturb them. The prevention of suffering is a far greater concern than the production of pleasure. For example we should give starving people food rather than entertainment, and people would think you're mad for doing the other way round. This should also apply to our thoughts about having children. It is more important to prevent our children from suffering, than it is to have them experience pleasure. Therefore we should not have children at all, because it prevents EVERY experience of suffering that a child would have. And because the child does not exist, they are not harmed by not experiencing pleasure. Because they can't feel deprivation.
people can suicide if they want so there is no need
>>953457
well that's like saying confining people to concentration camps in ww2 wasn't wrong because they could have suicided if they wanted to
I'm not talking about suicide, I'm talking about STARTING a life.