Ancient Greeks and Egyptians knew full and well that the Earth was round. It was also an accepted doctrine of the Catholic Church. And yet there went this guy, claiming that he can reach India by sailing west.
Was he bullshitting the queen for monetary support? Was he actually believing this? Or is it all just a misinformed meme history?
I'm confused, you're asking why, if most people thought the world was round, Columbus would accept simple geometric principles such as going west to circumnavigate to the east?
>>1113970
I... Just woke up okay? I had this nagging question that I could not explain, and I guess I now know why.
>>1113928
He underestimated the size of the earth which is why people opposed him. Even Isabella was sure he wouldn't return.
>The Holy Roman Empire...which...you know...was neither holy...roman...nor an empire....teehee.
>Ayn Rand wasn't a philosopher, she was just a shitty author!
>tfw have friends who took actual philosophy classes, but seem to not know the terminology, or actual ideas.
>only person who is around, or above my level of knowledge is an unschooled Mormon who has an uncanny grasp on German Idealism for some reason.
fucked up world t b h
>"Why are you talking to me?"
;_;
I just had an idea for a fun thread. We make up dumb, ridiculous conspiracy theories and then try to prove them wrong.
This is a good opportunity to practice fact-checking and evaluating other people's claims for when we encounter legitimate misinformation. And if we actually dig up corroborating evidence, that would be hilarious.
No existing conspiracies allowed like moon landing or JFK assassination or holohoax or anything there is any discussion on already. Make up something nobody's heard of before.
For example, I'll claim that Trinidad and Tobago is actually a nation created only for the Olympics: as an elaborate deception beginning in the mid-1940's by exiled European statesmen planning to assassinate world leaders by gaining entry to the inner circle of the Olympic Games. However, upon the third Reich's defeat, they found the festivities so enjoyable, that they rallied the population into maintaining the nation separate from Britain so they could continue participating.
>>1113536
BUT John Dillinger DID shoot JFK
When Stalin was first filmed eating a hotdog, he ate it sideways (middle first, then each end). This filtered through the Soviet propaganda channels until everyone in the Soviet Union also ate their hotdogs sideways. From 1945-1965, at least 200 Soviets are known to have been arrested for eating their hotdogs from end to end. Khrushchev's government relaxed this policy by 1966.
>>1113631
makes sense. eating the hotdog in the normal fashion sounds too gay for Stalin
How do young earthfags explain light years distance? I've never seen the mental gymnastics routine so I'm pretty curious.
Light travels 186k m/s in a vacuum, slower when acted upon, or about 9 trillion km/Julian yr IIRC. This in turn means that to travel such a distance, it needs the time to do so.
Given the fact that the light source actually exists/existed (we can physically see it), this implies that the time for light to travel millions or billions of years for certain (>99.999% of everything visible to telescopes) objects actually passed, meaning that shit existed for longer than 7000 years.
Do they think brightness comparison is just a meme or something?
God can do anything, and He can certainly make light travel faster than the speed of light.
QED.
I've never seen a light year and you can't convince me they even exist.
He created the light already in transit at the appropriate distance obviously.
What went right?
Asian england
>>1113295
Perry forcing them to interact with the west.
What is your favorite historical fiction?
The entire series.
Easily Colleen McCullough's Masters of Rome, but The Long Ships by Frans G. Bengtsson runs a close second.
Is there any rational justification for the existence of the state? If so, can it be reconciled with the inherent violence of statism in the form of taxation, border control, etc.? If not, does that necessarily invalidate statism as an ideology?
The state's mission is to order the material to accord with the spiritual.
is there a system that works better than the Nation state?
>>1113187
So the nation-state is good from a utilitarian perspective?
When you ask someone to treat others as they themselves would like to be treated, is that an appeal to logic or emotion?
>>1113046
It's an appeal to emotion. It's a call for sympathy without any reasoning behind it.
its not even an argument, its more like a philosophy
whats best book on nazi germany?
>>1113005
Rise and Fall of the Third Reich is pretty comprehensive.
>>1113005
Mein Kampf
>>1113027
its literally a fanfiction
What the fuck was his problem?
seriously
Mad he only saw half the world
>>1112934
Have you taken a good look at his picture?
>>1112934
Was it autism?
>grant animals rights
>have to become a vegan weed-shirt wearing hippy utilitarian scum
>don't grant animals rights
>have no arguments against shitskins abusing animals out of sadism
How the fuck do we solve this
>>1112754
by being somewhere in the middle?
>>1112764
There are no middlegrounds in philosophy
Thoughts on Diogenes?
>>1112697
Some edgelord worshipped by /his/ memesters
>>1112697
encouraged public urination, probably didn't even poo in loo
>western curry niggeraboo
I disagree with his ideals, but respect him for living by them.
What are the earliest examples of military hazing? I don't mean rights of passage like in Spartan society, but malicious abuse.
https://youtu.be/M0w2C9HWuUQ?t=66
>>1112639
Prior to modernity corporal and capital chastisement weren't "abuse" nor were they "malicious," but rather reinforced the natural and fundamental order of the world.
So I suppose Martinet / Prussian discipline.
>>1112686
You forgot rum, sodomy and the lash.
Why the hell did Hitler want Lebensraum in the East so bad? Who came up with this ridiculous idea?
Like having huge stretches of a barren wasteland (with some resources to be fair) full with millions of people who want to kill you, would solve all their fucking problems.
Nobody could even quarantee that somehow Slavic blood (gasp!) wouldn't infiltrate the German gene pool. This kind of thing is inevitable because men think with their dicks.
>>1112342
He wanted to bring National Socialism to the Slavs to make them escape their ruler ship by the Jews.
>>1112342
He just wanted to conquer stuff because it's cool and edgy. Not because it was really necessary.
>>1112342
>Why the hell did Hitler want Lebensraum in the East so bad?
Probably something to do with his father issues.
Lebensraum was an extension in right wing German ideology of the "place in the sun" imperialism of late Imperial Germany. This was in a 19th century context of scientific racism and the conception of a pseudo-Darwinian action on "the nation." Lebensraum was a way to purify the German Nation of the horrors of industrialisation, war and modernity through an attempt at a pastoral idyll that never existed. (Prussian serfdom was a fucking nightmare.)
So it romanticises the purity of the nation as a "growing" agricultural thing, while also satisfying the eliminationalist genocidal features of German imperialist national building (check out genocide in Namibia, for example).
Not that the US, or UK, or Belgium was any better in the areas they imperially conquored, huge stretches of barren wasteland (with some resources to be fair) full with millions of people who want to kill you.
It helped that Nazism appealed to petits-bourgeois who were declining, and romanticised the countryside, plus "new workers" who were displaced from rural agricultural occupations and forced into the cities.
I'm interested in reading the book but it seems like there's a lot of differing opinions of which translation is best, does anyone have recommendations?
>>1112326
none of them
it's a terribly boring book
>not learning German, both the Austrian and the Guttenberg Bible dialects, to be able to speak German fluently.
>>1112338
I'm not reading it to be entertained though am I