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What can you tell me about pre-islamic Arab religion? I have been led to believe that genies are a big deal, and even in some Sufi sects today they claim control of "muwakil", or good slave genies. Was their religion prior to Islam similar to Caananite religion?

Were there many Jews/Christians/Zoroastrians living there?
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>>1185790
Some of them were Christian, some Jews, most were polytheists.
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>>1185790
Look into the polytheistic Hindu influences. Most evidence 'erased' with the advent of Islam.
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>>1185805
>polytheist
It's probably worth noting that polytheism does not necessarily imply a strict pantheon of gods that is mutually exclusive with the worship of other gods.

i have a vague memory of reading about one but every time i search about it only stupid lists like "top 10 smallest countries" shows upp.
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Wasn't there this crazy medieval German dude who tried to create this?
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Vatican City occupies 0.44 km^2. I'm sure many if not most ancient city states had a smaller footprint. But I guess it gets fuzzy when you consider what is a "sovereign state" and what lands actually count as part of them. Well-defined borders have not always existed.
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Does Sealand count?

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>the American civil war wasn't about slavery
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>>1185388

I think you're oversimplifying things if you say it was entirely due to slavery.
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Why can we never have threads just talking about the war
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>>1185388
Property rights were part of the question of state sovereignty.

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RAF Kitty Hawk crashed in the Sahara
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Was there a people in Germany who are racists and antisemitic but doesn't support or hated the nazi and Hitler? What could be their main point?
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>>1185093
Plenty of conservatives were racist and anti-semitic yet disliked the Nazis. However, most of the conservatives even if they disliked Hitler preferred him over the political left, which is why they supported his cause. Without the conservative parties - including the predecessor party to Merkel's CDU - Hitler couldn't have become a dictator because he lacked the absolute majority.
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>>1185093

Yes.

The statism and regulation of the economy could easily do it.
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>>1185155
Why conservatives dislikes Nazis?

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One day an obese hat-wearing, bearded, thick glasses-wearing individual will make a video about Stirner for a wide audience of people. In it he will shed light not so much on Stirner's thoughts and intentions but the popular memetic vision of his philosophies. The commoners will fail to analyze further, understand further and finally realyze the true meanings and will begin to misuse "spook" and "property" in common talk to a degree in which they have bastardized "underman" and "overman".

One day Stirner will go down the way of Nietzsche.

How does the idea of this "one day" make you feel, /his/? Personally I feel spooked.
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I feel like a true Stirnerite wouldn't really give a fuck. Then again, a true Stirnerite wouldn't use the terms "true" or "Stirnerite".
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>>1185059

It's pretty spooky, seen it already beginning on Facebook.
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Why would I care exactly?

I don't feel that Nietzsche has any way been bastardized at all, just because edgelords on Youtube don't understand him properly.

I actually feel pretty smug knowing that they don't really know what they're talking about.

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As a foundation to many faiths and mysticism, what meaning and importance does the Tree of Life hold?

What contribution has this image made to modern civilization?

Is it just one big meme?
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>>1184702
Basically the well known version religions has closeness to God being a binary. You are either with God or not and everyone more or less has the same level of connection.

Kabbalah, but also Gnostism, Neoplatoism, and Hermetism have a hierarchy. Each step in the hierarchy focuses on different sacred wisdom/Gnosis and puts you on a different plane. Mastery of one plane allows you to move up to the next. So both people can both be with God but one will be on a much higher spiritual rank. If you reach the end you might become an angel, an aeon, or completely merge with God.
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>>1184702
Like, the tree of life in the indo-European tradition? In India it's the lotus, in semetic religions it's the tree of knowledge, in Germanic religions it's yggdrasil (Charlemagne physically destroyed the saxon one). I think it might stem from the fact that humans used to give birth in hollow baobab trees where they evolved. They got pretty much all they needed from that one tree.
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>>1185027
The Tree of Life as depicted in the Kabbalah.

What exactly was the connection between babylonians and assyrians?

There was first sumer, then the akkadian empire, then a babylonian state, then an assyrian empire, then a neo-babylonian empire, then it was under persia, then rome and various persian dynasties fought over the area, then the arabs invaded and that leads to the modern world

But who were really the babylonians and assyrians ethnically/culturally/linguistically/etc? I'm seeing some things about akkadian and aramean languages, I don't know really how that all fits together. And who can claim true cultural heritage from the old world? I mean like, I know how things work today, I know who the cultural and ethinic groups are and their histories, but the ancient world is so alien.
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>>1184453
>But who were really the babylonians and assyrians ethnically/culturally/linguistically/etc?

I'm no expert, but I believe they were originally Semitic. Later they became Indo-European, yet still operated under the previous names
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Sumer is the oldest of these, which is often regarded as the first "true" civilization in the world. I put true in quotes, because that's still up for debate, as there were other people groups around this time doing the same things, but not as much as the Sumerians.

Sumerians were the start of the Bronze Age. Bronze was first smelted in Europe, and then arrived into Sumeria by trade. They were also Semetic and lived in southern Mesopotamia. Sumerians were peacefully absorbed by the Akkadians, a larger Semitic tribe. This is called the Akkadian Empire, and the world's first "empire". This was around 2400 BC.


Akkadia starts expanding under Sargon. Keep in mind that southern Mesopotamia was still the main focus of the Empire. Well, Akkadia collapses from economic and environmental strain. There are also this weird people group called the Gutian, who are described as having blonde hair and blue eyes, coming from the north, who also destroy the last remnants of the Akkadians.


In 2100 BC, the Akkadians split into two parts: Babylon in the south, and Assyrian in the north. These are called the Old Kingdoms. They were somewhat similar culturally up until the the year 1000BC.

Around 1800, the Hittites show up from the North West. The Hittites were Indo-European nomads resembling modern Europeans. The Hittites had one major advantage: chariots. Various other Indo-Europeans started migrating into the Levant/Iran during this time, like the Hurrians or Mitannis, who formed minor kingdoms and often warred with the Old Assyrians and Old Babylonians. However, the Hittites were the dominate kingdom until the rise of Middle Assyria.

Around 1500, Old Babylonia falls to the Kassites, an Indo-European tribe, and last until around 1000BC
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>>1184911
part two

Around 1200BC, the Bronze Age Collapse happens. Basically, everything in the region goes to shit. All of these kingdoms pretty much collapse. Indo-Europeans like the Medes, Persians and Parthians begin moving into the north and west (The Indo-Europeans migrated into Central Asian, and then into North India, and then into Iran). Semitic people like the West Semitic peoples such as the Arameans, Chaldeans and Suteans begin migrating into the south. The Hebrews were fighting other Semitic tribes and the Philistines. The Egyptians were in a civil war.

Now we are in the Iron Age.

Around 1000 BC,the major kingdoms that emerge are the Scythians (Indo-European) in the north-west. The Medes (Indo-European) in the West. The Egyptians. The Neo-Assyrians in the middle. The Chaldean-Babylonians (Semitic) in the South. Israel (Semitic) in the East.

These guys war until about 600BC. The Medians, Scythians, the Israelites, and the Babylonians form and alliance to destroy the Assyrians. That's the end of the Assyrians for the rest of history. The empire is split between Chaldeans-Babylonians (now called Neo-Babylonias), Scythians, and Medes.

Neo-Babylonia becomes the dominate state during the 600s, under guys like Nebuchadnezzar.

But...the Babylonians realized that, without the Assyrians, they were exposed now from all sides.

Well, around 500BC, there was a Persian by the named Cyrus, who was living in the tiny Persian kingdom. After many successful military campaigns, he conquers the Medes first, and then the now very weak Babylonians. This is the Achaemenid Empire.

By the year 400BC, the Scythians kind of went off to did their own thing. They scattered to different areas and were just absorbed into the local populations of Europe and Central Asia. The Egyptians are also weak and do their own thing.

The Achaemenid Empire dominated the entire Middle-East until 300BC.

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Is it a coincidence that laws of kosher and halal slaughter effectively make poaching impossible?
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>>1184438
Semites being anti-fun as usual.
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probably. their "practical" purpose was to make sure that meat you're eating was fresh in warm climate.
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10 commandments effectively makes killing impossible

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He literally did nothing wrong.
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>tfw a bunch of commies get shot in the head on Christmas day
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well no one was shot in Poland or Hungary or Czechoslovakia
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I'm literally a Stalin and Mao apologist and I still think Ceaucescu was a retard. What's your excuse OP?

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Who here undergrad/grad/Phd for history or humanities?

Personally love religious studies and philosophy of science but chose money instead of passion. Did I make a mistake?
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>>1184222
Meh. Probably not. Did your parents pay for college?
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No. Did a double major, Religious Studies and Medieval and Renaissance Studies, graduated magna cum laude, presented undergrad papers at conferences and represented by university at a national congress of humanities. Have not been able to move forward in the field, have not been able to get into Master's programs, contemplating suicide but the last one is not on my degree.

Stay out, do something worthwhile, give back to society, lurk /his/ and read.
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>>1184230
Yup but not any schooling after, which by the way , one semester cost more than my undergrad.

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Morality is subjective.
Yes or no.
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morality is a construct of your mind, just like everything else, so yes
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si

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What is your top 3 of historical figures that you would like a conversation with, /his/?

What would you ask or tell them?
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Évariste Galois, Vladimir Lenin and Jesus Christ
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I would sit Plato down with Plotinus and try to figure out just what the hell happened.
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>Sokrates looked like a dindu
>Plato looked like a beta
>Aristotle looked like an alpha

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Hello /his/.

What are some indespensable resources for those who are Christians?

When someone asks you if you believe in God, how do you normally start out? Do you dive straight into the Bible or do you ease into it? When discussing with non-believers, what arguments to you run into the most? How do you counter them?

I want to come to the light of the truth, I have come to you for guidance to help me in my journey.
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>>1183806
I am going to sleep, maybe I will answer tomorrow. Whatever you do, don't become a Protestant. Choose a denomination with apostolic succession.
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>>1183813
Well, I hope you will answer. Perhaps you can also give me some advice on denominations and what not.

I'm mostly concerned about being prepared to defend my beliefs.
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>>1183806
Take the bread pill.

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How do I test if an idea is a spook or not?
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If you spooked then it is a spook if you aren't then you aren't spooked enough.
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"Do I understand the idea?"

If the answer is no, it's a spook.
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If its an idea, its a spook

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