Did The Islamic world peak in culture and advancement with the Abbasid caliphate? Was there a ever better time for Islam after or before?
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>>1195534
Gunpowder Empires was Islam's last gleaming.
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>>1195534
I thought it peaked until the Mongolians who destroyed the Bagdad library and sheet and after it Muslims went all into Wahabbi stuff
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>>1195545
No, whilst the Mongols basically annihilated a lot of the progress the Muslim world had made after that they largely continued to be relatively normal people.
It wasn't until very recently when cold-war politics started to shut down any attempt at secular nationalism or left-wing movements before they could take root that they started turning to radical Islam as the most important thing.
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>implying he did ANYTHING wrong
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>>1195468
>implying he did anything
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>>1195468
>implying he did
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>>1195468
>implying he
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Is James White the Richard Dawkins of Protestantism?
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Calvinism, specifically, because he debates everything under the sun, not only Catholics and Muslims, but also other Protestants on topics like infant Baptism, free will and soteriology.
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>>1195247
Find the most absurd Atheist out there and you got the best comparison
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>>1195247
>Calvinism
How did Nazi Germany and other imperialistic European nations reconcile the idea that whites were the "master race" with the fact that for the majority of human history, Northern Europeans did not contribute anything of note to the world? Until after the Renaissance, most important works of science and culture were created by Africans, mediteranians, middle easterners and Asians.
Not trolling, but if history is looked at objectively it's clear that Northern Europe was a regional power at best until the industrial revolution and basically full ooga boogas until Rome civilized the area.
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>not trolling
I don't believe you
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>>1194980
I guess the logic is that the Roman Empire was superior to everyone they conquered, and because the Germans were never conquered by the Roman Empire, and indeed ended up being declared the new Roman Empire in the Middle Ages, they must in turn be superior to the Romans, meaning, of course, that they were the biggest bestest race on the planet.
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>>1194980
First of all that isnt true especially if you consider celts to be northern european. Secondly nazis didnt think whites were the master race and thirdly white doesnt mean northern european
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Do you think the West is due for a "Renaissance of the Medieval"? That is, do you think we will eventually see a second flowering of Medieval thought and art, the way the first Renaissance saw a rebirth of Ancient thought and art?
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>>1194841
No.
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No, not in my opinion.
The Renaissance began to germinate and grow once old works of art and literature were discovered and Italian artists, scientists and thinkers tried to emulate them as they enjoyed them.
But in the modern day we have gone past this point. We have the internet and the ability to travel wherever we like, and we have almost the entirety of the medieval works ever created in various libraries or on the internet.
There is no reason why people who are interested in medieval art and thought can't study it, but the fact that we already have it all due to the internet and there will be no new great inflow of medieval things means no renaissance, sorry
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Wasn't Romanticism already that?
volution is often spoken of factually, but in fact only changing the properties (as opposed to the nature) of descendants is directly observed; this is nothing new, breeding has been done for thousands of years. Evolution is the theory that this can eventually lead to new species. Yet speciation has never been directly observed, only inferred. All the examples of it being observed, are based on mating preference, not innate incompatibility; by this standard, Ethiopians and Greeks of ancient times were different species, since they did not mate with each other.
And abiogenesis has never been replicated, which is strange. If RNA can happen by accident why can't that process be replicated in experiment?
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What?
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>>1194813
>And abiogenesis has never been replicated, which is strange. If RNA can happen by accident why can't that process be replicated in experiment?
Evolution does not attempt to explain the origin of life. Evolution explains the origin of life's diversity - not the origin of life itself. Claiming this as evidence of evolution being false is like saying gravity is false because we don't know how the universe came into existence.
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>>1194825
This isn't about evolution, it was just something tangential. You completely ignored the first paragraph, which was the one about evolution.
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Why is knowledge considered inherently good?
Why do people waste time trying to discover worthless truths like the origin of the universe? Science is great when it's useful, but what is the point of these so obviously worthless endeavors?
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>>1194747
Finding them a purpose.
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>>1194747
Keeps you busy.
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Furthermore, I'd like to ask why the layman even puts any energy at all into studying things like cosmology when they have no hopes of gaining any direct benefit or even making a meaningful contribution to the field.
I see this with atheists arguing with Christians all the time, why does it matter whether someone is a creationist or not? It not only has no effect on your life, it has no effect on anybody's life, the notion that man is created has no real life repercussions for the vast, vast majority of the human population. Even if creationism is false, it means fucking nothing at all, what a waste of time it is to even discuss this nonsense in the first place. On whose behalf are you even arguing? The dinosaurs'?
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In this document I will outline a deathly virus I theorise exists, called word. It's an abstruse subject, but beyond it's harsh nature is a beautiful philosophy.
The principle of this theory is that words are a virus; that's not to say words cannot be beautiful or coherent, that's saying there is greater beauty and greater coherence beyond them.
For over two-thousand years we have used word-technology, and word-technology has led to other technologies. Word helps us to sustain ourselves and our civilization, but simultaneously, there is disaster.
At one point, I hypothesize that the world was free of words; that even humans were wordless, and during this time, the word-virus was invented. In the end, the last of the wordless humans became infected, and the word-akin, and it's benefactors, dominated the world.
A problem with the word-virus is that it's educated to babies. These babies do not have a choice, and do not know any better. I hypothesize that primitive humans were forced to word-technology by sheer numbers of the word-infected, numbers made up by neglected youth logic.
Another, more technical problem is that forgetting words is an arduous task, especially without any knowledge of the wordless world. Our tongues were trained to talk by our infected families, and then our word-mammal potential was tempered in educational institutes.
We are slaves by the word-virus, where no whips are needed, just the presence of negativity and word-world positivity.
We metaphorically whip ourselves with the counter-argument to an argument we uphold, because of words, negativity is instilled in our brain. All worded-thought is an imaginary word-war. To think harder with words isn't intelligent, it's perseverance, to impress our slavers.
The potential of a word-mammal, is to create and use technology.
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Technology can be helpful or harmful, On the one hand, we have created wind-turbines that can generate free energy, and on the other, we have nuclear missiles that can wipe out any landmass.
Animals hunt, or consume resources; in a world where there are tensions between humans, their prey and their resources, there will be vigilance and there will be indiscretion. Humans will design, and deny the wind-turbine based on want, and design, and use nuclear missiles based on need.
Harmful technology would spur, and so would helpful technology; this is an aspect of the deathly nature of words.
Our sin advances as the word-technology advances, tensions between humans become more complex as time passes.
The current Russian and Western tensions make it near impossible for peaceful resolutions by politic; where only a political winner can stop the impeding World War III. A side will criticize the other on history, behaviour, and more; targeting leaders and reputable people foremost, and neglecting the views of the general population.
History spans for thousands of years, and accepted behaviour has changed over the course of history. An analysis of ancient history with modern behavioural philosophy, is sure to see primitive man as undesirable, and the same goes for certain conduct throughout the ages.
As time passes, we neglect our history with word-technological advancement and accepted behaviour.
Our tongues are locked into the system, and our minds are imprisoned – the only free will of the matter are the wordless aspects.
Theoretically, our heads are stuck to the side of a cube, rather than our heads being central and our mind being balanced.
I'm afraid I cannot explain what implications a wordless world would have on the mind, for I've never experienced it. I imagine it would be a more harmonious thought and emotion process.
We are, at this moment in time, standing on the edge of extinction...
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Wow. You said a lot of nothing.
>oh man what if our thoughts weren't constricted by the rigid confines of words! Could you imagine?
Language is just a refined form of communication. Language actually aids cognitive function. It gives form to otherwise formless notions.
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>>1194739
>bitch like moaning
You are a troll.
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Did the Industrial revolution affect human civilization more than the neolithic revolution? Are the green revolution and the digital/information revolutions the culmination of the industrial revolution or separate from it? Will the information revolution have a greater effect than the industrial revolution?
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>>1194648
No. In the neolithic revolution living in cities moved from 0 to finite. Ini the industrial revolution living in cities moved from finite to finite.
Falsified. QED.
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Industrial revolution is like paying you 50 bucks more, neolithic revolution is like inventing the concept of a salary.
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>>1194652
>cities = civilization
Wow, like, euro-asiocentric much?
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I'm seeing a lot of guys here warping opinions using biased or unauthentic sources to prove their arguments.
If you fall short of an argument, admit your shortcoming or seek out a credible source.
We learn when we fail, arguing leads us nowhere. This board is for discussion and not arguments.
Pic semi-related.
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It's black and blue.
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>>1194480
>4chan
>admitting you were wrong
Nah
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>>1194544
Found the parasite who contributes nothing to this board.
We had a good thing going for a few months, guys, but at this point the diamonds are impossible to sift out from the shit and piss.
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What can you guys tell me about the occult beliefs of Nazis and how it relates to party ideology? How much of Indiana Jones, Wolfenstein, etc., is true to life?
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This is like 4th time you made this thread, faggot.
And nazi occultism is largely a meme. Himmler was an autistic pagan faggot who sent out expeditions to 3rd world shitholes trying to prove ancient civilizations were ruled by Nordic superhumans, but most nazis didn't give a shit about it and they sure didn't want to create an army of alien robot Aryan zombies. Hitler himself was a lapsed Catholic at worst.
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>>1194461
lol this is the first thread I've made on the topic. I didn't realize it was a popular topic.
What about the Thule Society and its relation to the NSDAP? Stuff like that
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>>1194461
This, except Hellboy actually happened.
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Daily reminder that nothing you own is your own and that everything is the property of a greater who has allowed you to use them for the time being.
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That's what you think.
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>mfw Stirner said this to point out the innecessity of property, and that we need not be ruled by material monopolies
not to say you are wrong, but I wish people would take Max more seriously
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Is Somalia the only example of an anarchist society working with success? We're talking about a group of people who've known life without a government for thousands of years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeer
>Under Xeer, there is no authority that dictates what the law should be. The law is instead discovered by judges as they determine the best way to resolve a dispute. As such, the Somali nation by tradition is a stateless society; that is, Somalis have never accepted the authority of any central government, their own or any other
What the Greeks said about the ancient Somali "Berbers"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_(region)
>The document describes the Barbaroi's system of governance as decentralized, and essentially consisting of a collection of autonomous city-states. It also suggests that "the Berbers who live in the place are very unruly", an apparent reference to their independent streak.
>inb4 warlordism isn't anarchist
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>success
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>>1194394
Success in that it's the way they want to live.
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>>1194377
Somalia is 7 states but one country and nation.
T. Somali
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>Cuban Missile Crisis
>Common belief is that Kennedy stood up to an unreasonable Khrushchev who wanted to do the unthinkable and sneakily plant missiles in Cuba so as to get the first strike in a Nuclear war
>throughout 1962 prior to October
>be Kennedy
>be assblasted about Bay of Pigs, a literal and unprovoked invasion that was crushed
>terrorise the shit out of cargo ships heading to Cuba using exiles
>organise covert hit and run attacks on Cuban mainland that include shooting up hotels with Soviet officials in them
>covert attacks that blow up bridges, docks and factories that kill hundreds of civilians
>authorise this little gem: http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/nsam-jfk/nsam181.htm
>literal planned time for a second invasion of Cuba is in October
How come this doesn't ever get mentioned? With all this in mind, Khrushchev was pretty justified in sending missiles as a deterrent to keep America from invading... right? He even said as much. Also, lets not forget, Turkish airfields had B - 52s armed with nukes on 24 hour standby. ALSO Khrushchev contacted Kennedy first on Oct 26 by letter literally saying he'll take out the missiles as long as he doesn't attack Cuba anymore (spoiler alert: Kennedy administration would go on to conduct many more covert terrorist attacks on Cuba including civilian targets)
Why does the American government allowed to keep getting away with this?
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>>1194327
Because it's not bad when the US does it.
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>Why does the American government allowed to keep getting away with this?
Because they won. That nullifies everything else in your post too.
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What if this was successful?
>inb4 hurr durr it was never possible :^)
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>>1194315
It wasn't possible. Fuck off alien space bats.
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If it was successful then Germany would have more wiggle room in terms of oil supply for their mechanized corps.
they would still have to make the final drive to Moscow to ultimately win the war. Stalingrad and the drive for the Caucasus was just to relieve a desperate shortage of fuel, for which millions died just to achieve that supply.
whether that much manpower and resources dedicated to Case Blue was worth it or not was debatable, the Egos of Stalin and Hitler got in the way their "THIS IS THE LINE" talk concerning Stalingrad.
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>>1194343
The oil would have burnt like the factories and fields in 1941 and 1942