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What's /his/ opinion on mongol yoke revisionism?
http://www.rusjournal.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/The-Horde.pdf
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>>1233185
> Much of the Russian language has Mongol roots and ultimately, these are
both Slavic peoples.
> The idea of the “Tartar” was a catch-all term for Eurasian fighters

WE
WUZ
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>>1233218
Is tartar related to greek tartarus (hell/underworld)?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartarus
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>>1233185
Mongol yoke and Tatar influence have always been subjects for discussion within Russian historical community. Kostomarov, for example, had already outright stated that Mongol conquest was the factor that ultimately contributed to Russian unity in general and Moscow's leadership in particular. Most modern revisionists are pushing Gumilev's Eurasian point of view, however, and Eurasianism is a fucking retarded concept.

>>1233218
>Millions are you – and hosts, yea hosts, are we,
>And we shall fight if war you want, take heed.
>Yes, we are Scythians – leafs of the Asian tree,
>Our slanted eyes are bright aglow with greed.

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Back when I was a Marxist I remember reading something about why "the liberation of the proletariat is impossible without the liberation of the woman". I forgot what exactly it was about and who wrote it. I assumed Lenin, but can't find anything right now.

Can someone fill me in?
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>>1232800
Is this the quote?

Thomas Sankara said something similar as well, as had basically every communist ever.
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>>1232819
Ah yes, that's exactly what I was looking for, Thanks!

Thomas Sankara on women's issue:

>The revolution and women’s liberation go together. We do not talk of women’s emancipation as an act of charity or because of a surge of human compassion. It is a basic necessity for the triumph of the revolution. Women hold up the other half of the sky.
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>>1232800
>"Out of the corruption of women proceeds the corruption of races; out of the corruption of races, the loss of memory; out of the loss of memory, the loss of understanding, and out of this all evil." Bhagavad Gita

The judeo-Masonic banking, corporate, mediatic and academic elites know, and their Marxist and SJW useful-idiotic puppets enforce, what the ancients already knew thousands of years ago. Out of the corruption of women comes the corruption of societies.

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Who /Wargame, Red dragon/ here?

Legit the most realistic modern wargame. Infantry is the queen of battle desu.

>Not spamming Motorskis and wiping out capitalist pigs with napalm strikes

Please
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>>1232598
>>>/v/
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>>1232598

Is there one focused on ww2?
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>>1232607
99% of the war games are ww2 simulators.

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Hey /his/, this is a question that's been on my mind a long time. I do MMA and lift weights and I get hurt all the fucking time. Just earlier this year, I had to train around a knee problem that I got from running too much, and I think now I've got a borked shoulder from lifting. I've also had tendinitis in both wrists which has thankfully subsided, along with my knee issues, and tore my ACL.

I have a physical job and I'm pretty active otherwise, but I'm nowhere near as active as a legionary or your average Grecian athlete might be, what with constant physical work and training. How the fuck did these people not blow out their joints with all the stress they put on them? Was it merely an adaptability thing? I know their diets were, in general, shittier than ours, did they just bite the bullet and train through all the problems?
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>>1232557
that statue looks like he has gyno
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>>1232557
>did they just bite the bullet and train through all the problems?
No, they died.
Your genes are weak.
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>>1232557

Addendum: I know it could just in fact be my shitty genes causing all my problems, but I still think the question is worth asking

also

>>1232564

tendon problems aren't really fatal, I doubt a legionary in training would die of shock if he had a sudden attack of patellar tendinitis. Maybe booted from the army if he couldn't run.

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Did the holocaust seriously impact the Axis's chances of winning WWII? It looks like a serious waste of time and resources compared to the war effort. Was it executed because WWII was a distraction? Was it just for seizing jewish assets to fund the war effort? Why do this during the war at all?
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>>1232367
>Did the holocaust seriously impact the Axis's chances of winning WWII?
No because they would never have won
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>>1232367

It's impossible to know for sure, but the Holocaust and the persecution of the jews certainly cemented:

>that signing a separate peace with the western powers remained a pipe dream

>that a lot of resources and infrastructure was spent on executing the final solution

>that incessant partisan activity bloomed and thrived in all corners of the third reich

Even Alfred Rosenberg, the CREME DÉ LA CREME of the crackpots realized that the harsh treatment of jews, poles and other slavs seriously endangered the stability of the eastern provinces. A lot of russians felt liberated when the first german forces rolled around but quickly changed their minds when the SS followed suit and started fucking everyone up for no good reason at all.
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>>1232367
it is interesting to think about, none of the belligerents got into the war to save the Jews, and they did provide a prisoner force of slave labor for awhile, but it probably strained resources

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Why do you faggots love to discuss WW1 so much?

I read about WW1 and feel absolutely nothing because all those deaths were pointless and all the real happenings were in WW2. I don't know why it is so popular here, its like gushing over Windows 2000 even though XP is widely regarded as the peak of the Windows OS and answered all the problems raised as early as Windows 98. Or talking about how perfect the marbling looked on a slab of chuck before it was turned into hamburger. Its irrelevant because of what became of it.

Clearly the horrors of mechanized warfare and wholesale slaughter in WW1 weren't as earthshattering as you imagine them to be if 20 years later the world restarted the war but with even better weapons, rhetoric, atrocities and body counts. We retroactively paint a picture of a war weary Europe, disgusted with war but also one curiously tainted with foreshadowing of the rhetoric of WW2. Everyone looks to 1918 for all their answers to why communism, fascism and antisemitism rose in WW2, but no one bothers looking before 1914, as if these ideologies are somehow temporally restrained to this period and don't have a long, forgotten history accelerated and catalyzed by WW1. We see Marx, and we see the 1918 revolution, we see Stalin but we don't see the trail leading back all the way to 1848. Fascism, a militaristic, nationalistic ideology is merely the end extreme of a harder, edgier form of normal European imperialism; in the German case, going all the way back to the >H >R >E . Likewise, we see Mein Kampf and the Holocaust as connected, but we don't see centuries of antisemitism and pogroms.

So why do people, ultimately just fans of pointless human misery, see WW1 as having some meaning other than accelerating processes already deeply embedded in European society and culture? Its a speed bump on its way to WW2, and its millions of deaths utterly pointless and meaningless in the grand scale of things. Why the disconnect and blatant fetishism /his/?
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>>1232271
Ive seen 4 ww2 threads today
Havent seen a ww1 yet this week

Also it kinda spelled the end of monarchy in a lot of places and marked the deaths of historic empires
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>>1232271
How to trivialize periods of history with asinine comparisons in one post
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> I read about WW1 and feel absolutely nothing because all those deaths were pointless
That's the most amazing thing about WW1. Tens of thousands of men dying just to take few meters of land, no bad side, no great purpose, just endless fighting over status quo.

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Are there any good books about the Chinese navy and their ships in the Age of Sail? I know the Chinese never placed too much importance on their navy, with a heavy focus on land trade and deterring Japanese pirates at the most, but you'd think after the West came in with their Ships of the Line, they might have had something.

Unfortunately, I can only find info on Chinese Junks which are pretty vague.
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>>1232049
Junks are the pinnacle of sail
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>>1232136
How do you pronounce junks in Chinese?
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>>1232141
ching chong

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Historically, religious people have been able to interpret everything and the opposite out of their religious texts. So far, the only way to make people agree on a specific interpretation was violence (by the state or by forces outside of the state).

Without a monopoly on violence you get thousands of sects and cults who can't agree on a single thing and, worst case scenario like after the west bombed the governments of Hussein, Gaddafi away, kill each other because of it.

This is why religious people always need violence (either by the state who punished blasphemy or, if that fails, non-government violence).
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>christianity green
>islam yellow

triggered
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>>1232025
I know Islam should be green but what colour should Christianity be?
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>>1232032
red for blood

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What's your perspective of history and progress /his/?
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Neither bad nor good, but certainly impressive.
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>humans are largely incapable of being functional in groups of more than 100 people
>humans are now organized in groups consisting of hundreds of millions of individuals
>it is likely that war, ethnic hatred, religious fundamentalism, and other manifestations of this fact will continue for quite some time
>it seems likely that the political development of global civilization will stabilize with either all totalitarian states or all liberal democracies with strict rule of law, as these are the most stable forms of government
>China delenda est
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"Progress" has always made things worse.

Tribalism > Traditionalism > Monarchy > Democracy > Collectivism

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Howdy Gaelic Servants.

Check it out, I'm made of hostages.

T. Niall
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It is amazing indeed. Political hostages are a very valuable commodity. You are very powerful, and I have no choice but to submit to my servile instincts and become your vassal. I totally didn't have any plans for Kingship, by the way.
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I hate Irishmen who disagree with me but I hate the British even more.
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>>1232288
You got that exactly wrong.

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What is power, who has power and how much does the Pope have?
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>>1231672
>What is power

Something no true Christian should seek.

>how much does the Pope have?

He has the supreme whore-power of Babylon.
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Power is the rate of work
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>>1231676
When the Whore falls we read, "‘Rejoice over her, O heaven! Rejoice, saints and apostles and prophets! God has judged her for the way she treated you’. . . . In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints, and of all who have been killed on the earth" (18:20, 24). This shows that the Whore persecuted not just Christians, but apostles and prophets. Apostles existed only in the first century, since one of the requirements for being an apostle was seeing the risen Christ (1 Cor. 9:1). Prophets existed as a group only in the Old Testament and in the first century (Acts 11:27–28, 13:1, 15:32, 21:10).

Since the Whore persecuted apostles and prophets, the Whore must have existed in the first century. This totally demolishes the claim that Christian Rome or Vatican City is the Whore. Rome was not a Christian city at that time, and Vatican City did not even exist, so neither of them could be the Whore. Furthermore, Fundamentalists continually (though wrongly) claim that Catholicism itself did not exist in the first century, meaning that based on their very own argument Catholicism could not be the Whore!

Fundamentalists are fond of conjecturing that in the last days there will be a "revived Roman empire," such as the one that persecuted Christians in the first century. Yet they never draw the inference that this empire would be headed by a revived pagan Rome, with the bishop of Rome leading the Christian underground, just as he did in the first century.

Still, Revelation 18:20 and 18:24 prove that the Whore had to be a creature of the first century, which, in the Fundamentalist view, the Catholic Church was not. Thus, on their own view, their identification of the Catholic Church with the Whore is completely impossible! Only ancient, pagan Rome or apostate Jerusalem could possibly be the Whore.

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>ugh history is the least important (core) subject
>omg its so boring itll never make me money either
>why do I need to know this? Ill never use it
>who cares about the past all that matters is the present and the future

How do you respond to this? Or "history is useless to know" in general
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>get rich
>pay attractive women to fellate you

You will not be punished for your anger. You will be punished by it.
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it is useless. knowing the past doesn't mean anyone will go out of their way to repeat it. with that said, it's a mark of the ignorant to know nothing about history.

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If major reforms were carried out in the 2nd century and the Roman Empire survived much longer in its 2nd century glory than it did, would there be a chance of industrialization occurring before 1000 AD?
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Nice autism.
It mirrors my own.
And yes.
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>>1231382
I take no shame in my autism. I frequently fantasize about visiting the city of Rome 2000 years ago and seeing how an ancient city with 1 million inhabitants looked and functioned
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>>1231353
The second part of the question is easy, because Romans would have continued to make leaps and bounds in technological advancement if the Pax Romana continued for centuries in a stable condition.

The first part is more difficult. The problems of succession, minimizing the damage caused by bad emperors, economic stability, hostile neighbors, etc. You'd have to enact perfect reforms at every level that can't be ruined by the fuckups of future generations. No civilization has managed that thus far.

All things, including empires, tend toward entropy eventually.

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ITT: Give historical figures theme songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3SjCzA71eM
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>>1231284
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsVlQ1jLdrE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5YNiCfWC3A

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should you be able to criticize political philosophies if you don't have a better idea?

for example, the people who continually bitch about capitalism, or neoconservatism, or enlightenment ideals, without any alternative. is just arguing against something without a way to make it better (or replace it entirely) just a waste of time?
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Yes, absolutely. Seeing the faults in something is an important step to building better things.
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>>1231213
You should be allowed to, because these ideas can (and always do) have flaws that are worth criticizing. That said, providing an alternative is certainly preferable.
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That's called the Nirvana fallacy, so probably not.

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