There is no value to philosophy.
In math class, they might say "Newton or Leibniz discovered Calculus". But nobody would ever try to teach you Calculus as Newton wrote it. For good reason, Newton's writings are the obscure, obtuse records of a centuries old genius from a different culture. Not exactly the kind of text that is ideal for students.
Since the time of Newton mathematicians and educators have expanded and refined the field. Advances in pedagogy have made the subject vastly more approachable.
Philosophy is wrong, or indistinguishable from being wrong.
Compare this, on the other hand, to math or computer science. I have never once corrected a mathematician, or found a substantive flaw in the body of computer science knowledge. I’m not acquainted with anyone who so much as believes they have. And yet, every undergraduate philosophy student, at the very least, believes they have found a flaw with some major philosopher.
In this same theme, every time I have found something in math or computer science, or chemistry, or physics, to be challenging or confusing, and my teachers say it is valuable to know, and I push through, I have found these challenges, unfailingly, to cohere into useful, reasonable concepts.
Conversely, I have never found this to be true in philosophy (exception: the one philosophy course my school offered in game theory, which was quite rigorous and also quite clearly a math course in disguise). Sometimes I will read a philosophical text and think:
“Is that what he means?”
Then study, read online, talk with friends about it and…
“I guess…? Maybe?”
Not to mention that the enthusiasm of study is dampened by the field being worthless.
“Aha! This is what he was trying to say. It can’t be demonstrated, has no value and is obviously wrong anyway.”
given your poor physical shape, your unfortunate
colleagues, your pitiful social skills and your alcohol problem – is that
you will not actually solve anything with philosophy.
idiot
great, keep thinking like this, the world needs scientists to specialize in a specific point of research, being a generalist isn't for everyone.
Just to give you a general idea,” he would explain to them. For of course some sort
of general idea they must have, if they were to do their work intelligently—though
as little of one, if they were to be good and happy members of society, as possible.
For particulars, as every one knows, make for virtue and happiness; generalities are
intellectually necessary evils. Not philosophers but fretsawyers and stamp collectors
compose the backbone of society
>>1242550
Brainlets BTFO
Would Communism have succeeded if Western capitalist countries stopped their meddling and trying to make it fail?
>>1246065
Yes.
>communists feeling persecuted
>>1246075
But Western capitalist countries, including the fascists (sorry mates, corporatism is just a form of capitalism), did actively try to make communist countries fail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezaSt0IPrIk
what if germany won WW1 and never caused WW2?
would the world be a better place?
This actually seems to be not a bad scenario.
The thing I always get triggered by is people calling Germany the "bad guys" because they don't understand that Nazi Germany didn't exist in WW1.
WW2 was not "nazislap 2: electric boogaloo" but it was a far different war with much less "moral" shit to fight for/against.
Can't speak as to what would happen if they'd won. We'd all have cooler helmets, I guess.
Well that depends. What kind of peace treaty would it have resulted in? Germany wanted colonies, so I assume France wouldn't have been fractured too hard, just lost shitloads of African holdings. Assuming that would be the end of it and no WWII happens, would the colonial powers manage to keep hold of said colonies or would they break free anyway?
what are some of the best flags/logos/symbols of factions across history?
VIVA
LA
FRANCE
Why is Muslim morality such garbage /his/?
>You are forbidden to masturbate, but you can have sex with sex slaves if you own them
Do people unironically support this, or are they just retarded? I mean, at least the 10 commandments make sense.
>>1237784
Musso morality is the same basis as any holy scriptures
DONT BE A FUCKING HYPOCRITE
>Muslims can use condoms
Already better morality than cathoshits
>>1237784
You obviously paid no attention to the rest of the Old Testament. YHWH doesn't outlaw slavery, he simply makes a few rules. YHWH had no problem with incest until Moses came along. Maybe Moses was a false prophet who didn't like the old rules and made up his own. And don't forget that YHWH had Joshua kill everybody (and take virgin sex slaves), just like Allah told ISIS.
(People act civilized and surprised. Oh my God would never be like that. Duh! YHWH killed all but 8 in the flood, including the innocent children)
(Pic related)
Alright /his/torians, let's talk about the IRA, Provisional or others. Some questions to get us started.
How important was the Provisional IRA for Ireland?
How active is the IRA today?
Northern Ireland belongs rightfully to (UK/Ireland)?
How bad were the troubles?
How effective were Provisional IRA terrorist tactics (bombings and such)?
Assume that you're a rational Christian.
a) Propose a robust argument from your standpoint that solves the Problem of Hell.
b) You lose one point each time you contradict the Bible.
>The problem if hell
Write two words: loaded question
If you don't get an A then drop out and go to a real university
>>1244637
God works in mysterious ways. God loves everyone with faith. Those without faith are devil worshippers. Thus God exist and hell exist for the sole reason.
If you disagree with me, you're going to hell.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_P2O.HTM
What was the religion being practiced in Mohammads town before he had his revelations and founded Islam?
Satanism.
Animism
>>1248541
Polytheism.
Will we end up in a socialist utopia?
Since nobody described whatever the end game was supposed to be, by the time we get there we will not know it was meant to be a socialist utopia.
>>1242009
No because scarcity. We'll probably end up hooked up to some kind of matrix, which we could design to be Utopian, but the economic model will be "welfare capitalism", not socialism.
>>1242009
Yes. Universal income will be inevitable once automation takes over 99% of jobs
Is Sumerian really a language isolate, /his/? Or is there a deliberate vaccuum among Indo-European historians to distort history in their favor?
http://users.cwnet.com/millenia/Sumerian-Parpola.htm
>In the early days of Assyriology, Sumerian was commonly believed to belong to the Ural-Altaic language phylum. This view originated with three leading Assyriologists, Edward Hincks, Henry Rawlinson and Jules Oppert, and other big names in early Assyriology such as Friedrich Delitzsch supported it. The Frenchman François Lenormant, who wrote on the subject in 1873-78, found Sumerian most closely related to Finno-Ugric, while also containing features otherwise attested only in Turkish and other Altaic languages.
>Attempts to connect Sumerian with other languages have not been successful, however, and after 157 years, Sumerian still remains linguistically isolated. This being so, there is every reason to take another look at the old Ural-Altaic -hypothesis, for it has never been properly investigated. In the 19th century, Sumerian grammar and lexicon were as yet too imperfectly known to be successfully compared with any languages, while all more recent comparisons suffer from the lack of Assyriological or linguistic expertise and are hence for the most part worthless. This does not mean, however, that they are all garbage: at least 194 of them seem perfectly acceptable both phonologically and semantically.
>The wind turned in the early 1880s, however, as two prominent Finno-Ugrists, August Ahlqvist and Otto Donner, reviewed Lenormant's work and concluded that Sumerian was definitely not a Ural-Altaic language. This was widely considered a death-blow to the Sumerian-Ural-Altaic hypothesis, and since then Assyriologists have generally rejected it. Typically, when a Hungarian scholar in 1971 tried to reopen the discussion in the journal Current Anthropology, a few linguists welcomed the idea but the reaction of the two Assyriologists consulted was scornfully negative.
No.
>To date, I have systematically gone through about 75 per cent of the Sumerian vocabulary and identified over 1700 words and morphemes that can be reasonably associated with Uralic and/or Altaic etyma, allowing for regular sound changes and semantic shifts. Somewhat surprisingly, words with possible Altaic etymologies constitute only a small minority (about seven per cent) of the total, and it is unlikely that the picture will essentially change by the time the project has been finished. Although a close relationship of Sumerian with the Altaic family as a whole thus seems excluded, a genetic relationship with Turkish seems possible, as most of the matches are with Turkic languages, and they are basic words and grammatical morphemes also found in Uralic languages.
>>1240180
Indo-European historians do have a tendency of distorting history in their favor despite all the evidence to the contrary, Scythia being one really good example, with the Iranian origin of Scythians based on a few words scribbled down by Greeks.
Should Norway have been allowed to keep the northern islands and Greenland in 1812?
>>1248500
No, why should they?
>>1248511
Fuck off
No.
Why philosophers dont team up with other humanities such as sociology and political theory? Is it an autistic field? why they cant write books with other people from other fields? i wolud love to see them working with political theorist, biologist, anthropologists, film makers, bussiness managers and many others. Do you thinks mixing fields is a good idea and can revive philosophy making it more popular and usefull in a daily basis?
>>1248087
They can never agree with anyone but themselves
What makes you think that bioethicists, political philosophers and others don't do that?
Where are you getting this from?
>>1248093
First post best post
Is Christianity the most forced meme of all time?
>>1247765
Yes.
Constantine was a forced memer, and his legacy lives on in /his/.
>>1247765
Nah, atheism was more forced during the 2000's than Roman during Constantine's reign.
>>1247765
If the truth is a meme then yes
What the fuck was his problem?
it was just a prank, bro
He did nothing wrong.
>>1247623
I might be able to tell you if I knew who this extraordinaryly handsome man is.
/his/
Who are the real South Africans?, the Afrikaners or the indigenous Africans(blacks)?
Both claim to be the real South Africans
obviously both, stupid.
>>1246516
This
anything else is just shitposting
The ones who actually build it not the ones who are fucking it up