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Historically, what were the major differences between Ashkenazi and Sephardi life, culture, and thought?

How were the two populations perceived by each other, before and after 1948?
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>>1284218
Ashkenazi like to poison wells, kidnap children, promote communism, lie about genocide, degenerate europe, promote immigration, and produce pornography, Sephardi are like them but more swarthy, that's all I know but I'm interested in learning more about their culture
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What exactly are Shepardi Jews? I know what Ashkenazi Jews and where they're from but who are the Shepardi? Are they Jews who stayed in the Mediterranean?

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Where does "Western Europe" end and "Eastern Europe" begin? Are these terms even relevant anymore or should we just look at Europe as a cohesive whole?
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R1a / R1b split
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>>1309956
Poland.
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>>1309956
Nations in th EEC were western.
Nations in the Warsaw Pact were Eastern.

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Why aren't North Africans and Middle Easterners culpabilized for being enslavers? They enslaved as much blacks and even a large number of whites over the centuries... And up until very recently still ( one could even say up until today with their Nepalese and Flip slaves in Dubai and what not ).
Yet I never see that being mentioned in any school and its only stepmotherly mentioned even in colleges.

Was a temporary and recent defeat against the West enough for us to neglect their immoral involvements forever?
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>>1309495
>he hasn't figured out identity politics yet
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>>1309495
>Chattel race based slavery is the same as temporary non-racist slavery

KYS
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>>1309495
To be honest if it wasn't for the whole balls chopping thing, the Arab slave trade doesn't seem as bad. Just because of that though its worse lel

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It spread all the way to Indonesia and had a big influence there, and obvs there were many people who converted, but why is India still majority Hindu?
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>>1308882
I remember reading a book about a dude who traveled to different muslim countries including Indonesia. I don't remember the name but I could check it. But long story short: Islam in south east asia is relatively young and it grew stronger thanks to external threats and occupation. Islam was held as a tool of cultural resistance against europeans.

You can understand perfectly why in India this couldn't happen, with the muslims being invaders themselves.
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Mughals eventually went DUDE SYNCRETISM LMAO. Although it's an understatement that it didn't take off. One in six Indians is a Muslim
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>>1308882
Islam has hundreds of millions of followers in the subcontinent, so I don't think you can say it didn't take off. The question why India isn't completely Muslim has to do with the organized nature of Indian Hinduism/Sikhism that developed parallel with the arrival and establishment of Indian Islam, thereby compartmentalizing these religions along ethnic and class lines. Islam became the religion of some tribes, Hinduism the religion of others, and they diverged from there. In the north Islam centered around the Turkish aristocracy. In the east Islam became the culture of the Bengal tribes of the delta. In the south Islam became the religion of merchant colonies from Arabia and Africa, and in the west Islam became the religion of several Pashtun, Sindh and Punjab tribes.

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Would anyone have any reading suggestions for someone considering re-entry into the Christian faith?

I was "raised Christian" the way every millennial was - I celebrated Christmas and marked the box on paperwork. Eventually I left, but none of the paths that I've followed since then have provided fulfillment. Now that I have a greater understanding of religion though, I'm considering re-entry in a much more serious manner, and I'd appreciate some reading material to help inform my choices. Thanks :)
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>>1308873
C.S. Lewis' "Mere Christianity" would be a good re-introduction to the faith as would John Stott's "Basic Christianity."

I'll be praying for you OP.
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>>1308890
reminder that C.S. Lewis believed Jesus had told a false prophecy about the end times happening within the disciples'generation yet still believed he was divine
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>>1308873
>spiritually bankrupt people thirsting for anything to fill the void
Every time, kek.

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Why do people argue like human rights are real, like they are a physical thing or a law of reality that exists?
In another thread I said humans are a commodity and I got a really asshurt response.
If humans aren't a commodity, how does slavery exist?
It's almost like people take their ideology to make claims about reality rather than observing reality and and making claims then leaving the 'ought-to's to philosophy.
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>>1308462
Human rights were really established with the UN. The golden rule is the basis, I guess. The idea propagated is in order to progress we should treat each other respectfully.
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I'm not saying that the idea of human rights isn't useful or that people don't act according to the ideal, but human rights don't actually exist and there is literally nothing stopping anyone from arbitrarily disregarding it.
That means "human rights" it's quite literally
not an argument
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Daily reminder that seeing humans as a commodity is a textbook definition of psychopathy

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I hate political Centrism, but religious Centrism is the only one that makes sense.

We Agnostics are the most logical of all. It is not possible for us to know if a deity does or does not exist.

I believe it beyond human capabilities and reasoning to ever know until we take our last breath.
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>>1307061
>it's another agnostics don't know the definition of atheism thread
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>>1307066
The difference is, you say that no God exists, even if you don't know. We don't know and we say we don't know.
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Apatheism is the only logical answer.

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What kind of loving God would allow this?
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>>1306570
A white one
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>>1306570
Allah
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>>1306570
>German Republican flag
For fucks sake, they got the right Portugal flag but they managed to use the wrong German one

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How did jungle asians create such wonders while European was running around naked and worshiping trees?
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>>1302563
The Hindu gods are merciful.
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>>1302563
>running around naked and worshiping trees?
>12th fucking century
This is 12th century Europe
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So is this

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Can we celebrate the triumph over the attempt to push a Vatican II on the Orthodox Church?


>The document affirms love and peace as the church's ideals, criticizes racism, inequality, moral degradation and "liberal globalism" -- it's an agenda as conservative as it is anodyne.

>Yet the Council could have changed the Orthodox churches' ossified attitude toward the rest of Cristendom, which has not changed since the Dark Ages. To Orthodox Christians, all other denominations are heresies, not churches. Some steps toward more ecumenism and more openness would already constitute serious progress for what is now the most conservative of Christian denominations. Patriarch Bartholomew, a friend of Pope Francis's, was determined to push it through.

Thankfully, it looks like his agenda has failed.

http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-06-16/the-orthodox-church-stays-in-the-dark-ages
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>>1298307
>criticizes racism, inequality
>conservative
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>>1298311
>being conservative means hatting niggers and oppressing women
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>>1298311
Welp, however you feel about it, it's dead now.

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Thread dedicated to the discussion of British history
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1066 best year of my life
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love jeremy corbyn
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HAIL BRITTANIA

What was the exact year that battleships became obsolete?
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Never
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1940
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>>1307309
This.

While battleships lost a lot of prominence with the advent of the aircraft carrier, battleships can still play an important role in naval and coastal warfare. The US initially decommissioned its last two battleships in the early 90's, only to reinstate two of them until 2006.

Can we just dwell on the fact that the entire "innocent Christians were martyred and butchered by the violent pagans!" narrative is largely untrue and inaccurate?

On the contrary, the early Christians were noted for their riotous and scandalous behaviour. And because they placed such an emphasis on martyrdom, the history of early Christianity is marked by followers attempting to achieve martyrdom by whatever means necessary. Because "persecution" of Christians was largely non-existent and unenforced, save for a brief period during the Diocletianic reforms (which only affected those Christians in Asia Minor, the Levant, and and Egypt, whereas Christians in Egypt, Greece, the Balkans, and Europe were unaffected), Christians often resorted to purposefully engineer their own martyrdom by attacking and vandalizing pagan temples, harassing or killing pagan priests, turning themselves in,

There is of course the famous account of the Christians turning themselves in to the Proconsul of Asia in 185 CE and demanded to be executed; in response, the Proconsul executed a few of them, and told the rest to jump off of cliffs or to hang themselves from ropes if they had such death wishes. Tertullian the Church Father himself stated that "a martyr's death day is actually his birth-day". The Christians were anything but innocent lambs led to slaughter.

On the other hand, the persecutions that ensued after Christian consolidation were of such a scale that most knowledge from Antiquity was purposefully destroyed, and only that which could be somewhat cast in a Christian light was allowed to survive.
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This is acknowledged by most historians. Christian persecution definitely occurred but the Christians themselves were eager to die for the cause and the extent to which it occurred, such as Nero burning Christians in his garden for light, has been exaggerated.

But as you pointed out, persecution is a vital part of the Christian mode of thought. I once read an article wherein a priest was describing how the backlash against Mother Teresa in modern times might be a sign of her actual divinity. To Christians, worldly oppression is a sign that you're doing something right.
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>Christians often resorted to purposefully engineer their own martyrdom by attacking and vandalizing pagan temples, harassing or killing pagan priests, turning themselves in,
That wasn't very common, and was strongly discouraged.

The rest of your revisionism is fascinating though.

>Tertullian the Church Father
He was anathematized for heresy.

>On the other hand, the persecutions that ensued after Christian consolidation were of such a scale that most knowledge from Antiquity was purposefully destroyed
What is the Imperial Library of Constantinople (built by a Christian emperor)?
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Who are early Christians more like? "Syrian Refugees" in Germany and Europe or college indoctrinated liberals.

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>we want our freedom, leave us alone
>European country eventually offers independence
>whatever infrastructure, political system, education the colony had, it immediately collapses
>colony turns into 'random third world country no. 149'
>"well yeah, we don't have anything to eat, we live in favelas also our kids are illiterate,but at least we're free :^)"
>seeing their example another colony starts crying for 'muh freedums'
>rinse and repeat

Like really? A lot of colonies had roads and houses that rivaled Europe's in quality. But they turned it all to shit. The only exceptions from this rule are a few Anglo colonies. And would you look at that, places where Europeans still rule, the quality of life there is comparable to that of Europe.
Subhumans.

>inb4 "muh education and enviornmental factors are more important than genetics" meme
>inb4 "only 50 years of independence"
South America is still shit
>inb4 "muh oppressive genocidal regime"
look at China and Korea, colonized and massacred by the opium wars and Japanese Imperialism, still ages head of Africa
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>whatever infrastructure, political system, education the colony had, it immediately collapses

the only infrastructure was made to suck raw resources and send them to their land, and other buildings to maintain order trough military oppresion.

>political system

"there is a king very very far away, he rules you all and you arent allowed to fight his rule"

>Education

what education? they were taught the basics to perform manual labor and thats it

none of them expected to end up being shit, they all just rebelled at the same time hoping they can finally own the resources, land, food and govern themselves because freedom, but things didint turn out well.

plus it doesnt help colonial empires forcefully drew borders and separated them so they fought amongst themselves, which on the future would cause even more trouble.
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>>1297892
I agree with everything you said, but imagine Africa sans European colonization.

>savage warlords eating and enslaving each other
>Arab slavers
>that's it
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The problem lies in tribalism. Even though Europeans turned Africa into an accumulation of rather large countries, tribal conflicts never stopped. Once the Europeans left, Africans went straight back to killing each other over age-old feuds. In the meantime they forgot to take care of the infrastructure, technology, ect. that Europe left them.
This is also causing the corruption, which is quite a big problem in Africa; politicians favour those from their own tribe and will put them into prestigious positions.

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Has there ever been any historical figures that did not exist?
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Socrates
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Jesus
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napoleon Bonaparte

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