When did relations between Native Americans and white settler/travellers turn from friendly trade to violent outbursts?
>>1376449
rape, disease, alcoholism, enslavement and forced conversion/denigration of indigenous culture
>>1376449
Both things always coexisted from pretty much the first second.
reading the early settler accounts and diaries (george catlin and columbus' documentations), they seemed to have a pretty chill relationship with each other to start. i was wondering if there was a specific 'flash point' where the violence kicked off, or whether it was an evolving toxic relationship for decades
Being selfless, (unfairly giving of yourself), and causing others pleasure is a universal, objective morality.
Being selfish, (unfairly taking for yourself), and causing others displeasure is a universal, objective immorality.
Different cultures all revolve around those two dipoles and simply play tricks with what's pleasurable & the expectations of fairness.
Also, I posit they can be measured, compared, and ranked by their total pleasure-displeasure ratio.
Prove me wrong.
https://youtu.be/GcJxRqTs5nk?t=10m55s
>>1376447
Wrong.
Pleasure and pain are complex survival mechanism which are constantly changing as you do.
How can they be the judge of what is objectively right and wrong? When those feelings are entirley subjective. This is where you are going wrong, you cannot make everyone happy. Everyone is so extremley different making one person happy makes another just as unhappy.
In order to live an objectivley good life (in my opinion) is to do what ever you will without willingly causing malicious intent to others.
Pre simple.
Universal is not the same as objective, and "universal" meaning common to all cultures is not the same as actually universal.
>>1376447
>morality not based on group membership
Ahahah, no.
If you have a question like:
>how big was stalin's dick
>holocaust fake or real/??
>was Caesar a fuccboi?
>why does daddy hit mommy?
>why did they use big lines in war?
>japs: innocent or guilty?
Please direct it to this thread
How common was horse worship? Asking for /x
>>1376334
Horse worship? Has Orobas shitposting left /x/???
How much boipucci was there in the ancient Nordic civilization?
>>1376334
>how big was stalin's dick
Moose-sized, no joke
>Holocaust fake or real
Real but exaggerated
>was Caesar a fuccboi?
Yes
>why does daddy hit mommy
Mommy doesn't cook food good enough
>japs innocent or guilty
Remove nippon
Which of the 7 ancient wonders is your favourite? For me either the Colossus of Rhodes or the Statue of Zeus at Olympia
I didn't saw them
Pyramid desu. Oldest by 2000 years. Testament to what mankind can achieve.
>>1376602
Also the only one still in existence.
>feudal for thousands of years
>smaller than most european countries
>no natural resources
>just finished fighting a civil war sponsored by foreigners
>...
>sundenly turned into the world's second biggest economy, defeating russia and conquering french, dutch, british, korean and chinese territories along the way
how??? what was the secret to their success?
>>1376256
>smaller than most european countries
>>1376274
>mercator
>read Crito (after euthyphro and apology)
>it takes Socrates about 11 pages to say that he won't escape because he doesn't want to break the law
>collected works of plato go on for at least 1000 more pages
...lolwut... I can just about stand reading some Dickens to get canon cred, but this is too fucking much. It's too fucking much. Explain yourselves please. Why is this worth reading? So that I can drop in Ancient Greek anecdotes when making common sense "insights" on modern things ("As Socrates said, 'murder is wrong,' therefore Hillary and Trump should...") and gobble up the pseudo-intellectual cred? What a fucking joke. And I know how the republic goes. Socrates (or plato through him) has a wank over his ideal society and everyone says he's so smart.
wtf?????? It's fucking BORING
>>1376076
Go read twilight then faggot
>>1376076
Way to miss his entire point you nigger
>>1376076
lol what is duty
Had he not been executed in 1944, would Ernst Thalmann have been a major leader in Cold War politics?
>>1376008
Toats yeah
>>1376008
>Ernst Thalmann
>Executed
You don't seriously believe communist propaganda meant to matyr a person who failed miserably and lost to a foreign man who would head Germany into WW2 do you?
>>1376415
What?
He was executed after being imprisoned once the Nazis took power.
How important is sex in history?
>>1375794
wouldn't have history without it.
>sacred act between two people in love
Now before the hedonists arrive let me tell you.
There has never been one instance of a civilization being built and a truly progressive society arising from peoples who did not treat sex as a sacred act between two committed partners.
>>1375852
except, you know, literally every single civilization on the face of the earth without a single exemption. you're a sheltered waterbaby if you think the laymen didn't just fuck.
>>1375866
Believing that sex can exist outside of a relationship and treating it as sacred within one aren't mutually exclusive.
People are commodities like lumber or anything else. One use for them is sex. But you don't treat your church cloths like rags like you don't treat your wife like a prostitute.
A relationship is necessary to raise a family and live a comfortable life, because it spreads the work load and increases stability. Viewing sex as sacred and an act for two committed persons helps to promote intimacy and strengthen the relationship and ensures progeny are legitimate so the male isn't wasting his energy.
No culture has ever been observed to treat sex like a strictly case affair and gone on to succeed. If you study archaic Greek society/poetry and the late republic/early empire you will see how even the most liberal societies of antiquity drew distinctions. And a lot, a lot, of Roman commentary exists on the hedonistic lifestyle in Rome and most paints it in a bad light.
Free sex and neglect of the family unit is a hallmark of a failing society. Barriers between the acts of casual and marriage sex are absolutely necessary to prevent social moral decline like we are witness to now.
Are there any people in human history that could be described as "peaceful"?
Of course they don't need to have been pacifist always, but moreso than other groups.
The Moriori I guess
eskimos?
A lot of places didn't have the resources for sustained warfare.
The San just about never fight. There's just nothing to gain from it.
>Democratic
>People's
>Republic of
>Korea
>shitposters
>>1375487
>Republic of
>Korea
>>1375487
It is Korean...
>Despotic
>Kim's
>Hereditary Monarchy
Discuss.
>post a meme
>Discuss.
kys
>>1375417
It's a collage, not historical facts converted to meme fyi.
1st was the only good one.
2nd and 3rd were kinda pointless.
4th caused the fall of Constantinople.
Deus Vult.
Why we dont have desks like this anymore? Are they shit? I never had the opportunity to use one of these but they seem like a solution for postural problems.
Should I get wood and try building one?
>>1375359
We do.
Where? I never saw one in 24 years of life.
>>1375359 >>1375407
>>1375367 /this
They're drafting tables
>pic related
ITT: Events in history that modern women will NEVER understand
>>1375311
You
>>1375311
your virginity
my penis
When and why did duels stop being a thing? Is there any place today where they're still legal?
Pic somewhat related
If duels are not banned, fights will escalate to a duel by necessity. Imagine someone suffers a slight insult. If he doesn't challenge, then he'll be seen (or he will imagine that he will be seen) as a cuck. If he challenges, and the other guy doesn't accept, then the other guy will be seen as a massive cuck. Basically the existence of escalation pretty much forces every conflict to escalate to a life or death duel. That's not a situation any society wants.
>When
Napoleonic wars.
>Why
Because the state became the embodiment of the nation. From the moment that a country is now a territory, an idea, a constitution, rather than a bunch of noble fat fucks feasting the whole day in their golden palaces, then you will notice that noblemen fighting with their swords are completely irrelevant in the face of artillery and cavalry charges. Duels were a thing back when a single individual or a family was the embodiment of something, such as a king or a prince. Naturally, when they ceased existing - when they were replaced by congresses, presidents, etc, - they were replaced by conventional warfare.
>>1375260
duels and warfare had nothing to do with each other you dumbass.
Was he autistic?
>>1375214
No, but he kinda was obsessed with the idea of destroying Rome due to his father's indoctrination.
>>1375214
Yes, Hannibal invented memes
>>1376318
Can we be sure he was indoctrinated and it's not a roman meme invented to make the villain of the story more interesting?