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Can someone tell me about or recommend some good reading on these? I've always been very fascinated by them.

Besides pic related.
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ergot
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>>1383815
>le ergot meme

get out you nigger
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>>1383782
https://archive.org/stream/historyofwitchcr015641mbp/historyofwitchcr015641mbp_djvu.txt

https://www.amazon.com/Scottish-Witch-Hunt-Context-Julian-Goodare/dp/0719060249

Fuckload of trial transcriptions here:
http://www.witchtrials.co.uk/

My Cunning Craft archive has some historical and academic material alongside Cultus Sabbati publications:
https://mega.nz/#F!hUAiHTSK!7zcl8cs3IhCd5QqEOCmrPg

Same with the Euro file, though there's some overlap and what's in here is mixed in with other shit from the continent:
https://mega.nz/#F!wJAnXb4J!4Hkn5E4LJz0c6UYSrj3y5g

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Which historical figure has the best epithet?
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Napoleon, the horse-thief of Berlin
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Julius Caesar, Queen of Bithynia
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Saint James the Moor-slayer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_James_Matamoros

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Hey /his/,

Lets get a historical music thread going! No limits, just give your favourite music from history, the location, time period and language (it doesn't have to be in English).

Have fun guys, I look forward to what you contribute!
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>>1383390
Music is such an interesting medium of art because of it's tendency to be personified through the subcultures that are typically borne or associated with their respective genres. Also interesting is how people tend to analogue certain periods of time with music (through and American perspective: 20's and 30's were swing music, 50's and 60's were elvis-esque, the 70's was funk, to the general public anything "historical" was classical music, etc.).
Obviously there were probably musical subcultures during all those eras, but I always admired how those particular genres managed to stand out as decade defining entities.

I've always appreciated how during the 90's American music culture just being a kitchen sink for music subcultures; such as the dark kids who would adore import goth music like Bauhaus, or the skaters who blasted pop punk on their walkmen tucked in their flannel shirts.

Also apparently Led Zeppelin, ACDC, Pink Floyd, etc. are dad rock now? In my experience people from the west coast usually say this, and if they had any interest around rock it's usually towards alternative rock or pop. People I've met on the east coast generally are more accepting towards psych and classic rock.

That being said I listen to vaporwave unironically
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>>1383476
>the 70's was funk

No, the 70's was disco.

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>"In 149 BC, Rome declared war against Carthage. The Carthaginians made a series of attempts to appease Rome, and received a promise that if three hundred children of well-born Carthaginians were sent as hostages to Rome the Carthaginians would keep the rights to their land and self-government. Even after this was done the allied Punic city of Utica defected to Rome, and a Roman army of 80,000 men gathered there.[1] The consuls then demanded that Carthage hand over all weapons and armour. After those had been handed over, Rome additionally demanded that the Carthaginians move at least 16 kilometres inland, while the city was to be burned. When the Carthaginians learned of this, they abandoned negotiations and the city was immediately besieged, beginning the Third Punic War."

Given how negotiation went after the first Punic War, how could the Carthaginians possibly think that giving up their weapons was a good idea?
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>>1383184
Well they probably figured they were going to have to submit to Rome so they gave up the weapons
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>>1383208
Rome was becoming a juggernaut at the time but given their history, it just doesn't logically make sense.


Would Hannibal have submitted to these demands?
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>>1383184
>Given how negotiation went after the first Punic War, how could the Carthaginians possibly think that giving up their weapons was a good idea?

That decision was probably made by wealthy people that could afford to hire personal security detachments to carry weapons to defend them, and their property.

When you're rich, who gives a shit about defending yourself when you can just pay somebody to do it? Who gives a fuck about "your" city, or even "your" country, when you can just take your wealth somewhere else and be rich in a different land?

Does this sound familiar? It should....

/his/ tell me about this place in 1000AD.
HARMODE: you can't talk about norsemen
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>>1383130
Stupid thread.


>Big Plains in eastern europe

>northern europe tundra and forest, with a large mountain chain running through the scandi peninsula.

>Pagans?
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Everything north of Stockholm was Finnish.
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>>1383151
sapmi*

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i dont understand the theistic chatter about " objective morality "

a typical atheistic definition of morality is for example " moral is that which intends to reduce overall harm"

so a moral action can be true with respect to that goal

but i dont get what that word "objectively true " confirms if you attribute it to theistic morality

the answer its objectively true because it reflects the nature of god seems to be a tautological nonanswer that doesnt add any content to morality

morality seems to lose its meaning in this theistic sense
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>sophistry is sophistry

You don't say
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>>1383080
Things are objectively true whether you believe them to be true or not.
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>>1383095
yeah my questions is what it means to be " true " in the moral sense

on the atheistic perspective its true or good to act in ways that reduce harm for example but i dont see something similar on the theistic side

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>Christianity owes more to Greek mystery religions than Judaism in terms of its theological concepts.


Agree or disagree, and why?
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Disagree, its core is the absolute division between good and evil and the end times scenario, which are two themes that were specifically developed in the Middle East
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Where is the evidence for these greek mystery religions
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>>1382692
If you stick to Catholicism/Orthodoxy, yes.

But if you go protestant, you subscribe yourself to the full desertnigger origins of Christianity.

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Was it just a meme weapon?
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Sure you could call it that.
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>>1382637
Nah it had a meme blade but the grip wasn't exactly memey imo
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>>1382637
If I recall correctly it was made strong with smart techniques they applied to their shit metal resources. It was good for them, but not anyone else.

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Why is the political system of Roman Republic so complex ?

Can someone explain it in a more simple way ? How did it work ?
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>>1382553
its not its simple
turn out in centric spiral and mine all the gold along the way
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>>1382553
like a big crop harvester
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>>1382553
No it really can't be simplified it was really a mess and changed alot. That isn't even considering that by the late republic what the law said was often very different than reality. Hell even the emporers were really treated as such until the end of the third century. It really was a mess.

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The samurai era in Japan, specially during the Kamakura Bakufu period, was the height of human civilization as we know it.

In no other place or point in history, has mankind developed such a refined sense of honor, loyalty and self sacrifice. There's also a whole artistic and humanistic movement that towers over the so called renaissance period.

A samurai warrior was not only a master of the sword (katana), but he was skilled in the bow, hand to hand combat, and well versed in poetry and religion. The samurai armor provided protection but also movility. An experienced samurai could easily take down a mounted western knight in full armour with a single blow.

If it weren't for the interference of the gaijin (european foreigners) and the introduction of honorless weapons (gun powder) that ultimated resulted in the Sengoku jidai (age of civil war), the samurai way of life, also known as Bushido, would have perdured even to this day.

Discuss.
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>>1382520
>bait thread
Regardless, gaijin and gun powder showed up after the Sengoku Jidai had already begun. Go be a weeb faggot on /jp/ or literally anywhere else.
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>>1382520
Yeah, Samurai may be the supreme god warrior. But stop trolling and contribute something interesting to the board.
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>>1382520

>The samurai era in Japan, specially during the Kamakura Bakufu period, was the height of human civilization as we know it.
No. Not even close.
>In no other place or point in history, has mankind developed such a refined sense of honor, loyalty and self sacrifice. There's also a whole artistic and humanistic movement that towers over the so called renaissance period.
I'm sorry what?
>A samurai warrior was not only a master of the sword (katana), but he was skilled in the bow, hand to hand combat, and well versed in poetry and religion. The samurai armor provided protection but also movility. An experienced samurai could easily take down a mounted western knight in full armour with a single blow.
Except your average Knight was trained with alot more then swords. And I'm sure a samurai would be cut down by a lance before they could even get close to a knight
>If it weren't for the interference of the gaijin (european foreigners) and the introduction of honorless weapons (gun powder) that ultimated resulted in the Sengoku jidai (age of civil war), the samurai way of life, also known as Bushido, would have perdured even to this day.
Bushido was kept until 1945.
All it lead to was less Japanese troops to being killed, as it's hard to find Japanese troops after they banzai into a machine guns kill zone.
And honor didn't save them from nuclear weapons

Question to the Muslims of /his/:

If you could program a Burqa with a generic robotic face that mimicked the expressions of the wearer, would that satisfy whatever fucking part of your religion that says women can't show their face to men?
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>>1381923
That sounds terrifying, why would you do that? I'd prefer pic related over that

Anyway there's nothing to say that she can't show her face, it's just that some societies take the need for modesty to an extreme level
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>>1381937
I always found that cloth way too creepy desu.
I'd prefer seeing that robotic face than this shit.
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>>1381923
>Robots

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Can we discuss the morality of usury? I know the advantages argued for it, but let's also consider the disadvantages: would things like houses and cars be so expensive if they couldn't be bought on credit (especially the cost of housing raised by ambitions landlords and speculators)? Consumer goods as well are probably made more expensive by credit cards. All these things are probably more expensive because credit makes people more likely to pay for more expensive things. It's gotten to the point where you must take on debt to even get by, for if you don't start early, you will not have a good credit rating and can't afford life's necessities. None of this even touches on our retirement system, which is eroding the pension system in favor of an usurious system.

The Orthodox Church condemns usury

>Not only in Psalm 15:5 is this teaching found. It is a fundamental principle throughout the Word of God. In Exodus (22:25), Leviticus (25:37), and Deuteronomy (23:19) the charging of interest on loans is forbidden. Prophets like Ezekiel (18:13, 22:12) thundered against usury. Charging interest is clearly and strictly forbidden by God.
http://holytrinity-lansing.org/index.php/news/102/109/The-Sin-We-Stopped-Feeling-Sorry-For/d,betterDetails.htm

>Business expectations in lending, often ghostly becomes more profitable than the production of tangible goods. In this regard, it must be remembered about the moral ambiguity of the situation, when money is "make" new money without the application of human labor. Declaring credit sphere to be the main engine of the economy, its predominance over the real economic sector comes into conflict with the moral principles, reveled by God condemning usury.
http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/93828.htm

cont
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>>1381880
>Debt is usury and usury is enslavement, and enslavement is always a source of evil. Therefore, debt is always to be avoided as far as possible; at best it can only be a temporary necessary evil. Usury was and is forbidden by the Church. Catholicism, which for many centuries kept much of the heritage of the Church from the first millennium, forbade usury until the late 18th century.

http://www.events.orthodoxengland.org.uk/tag/usury/

>Dmitri Lubomudrov, the Orthodox Church’s legal adviser told the media at that time, “We realized we couldn’t stay dependent on the Western financial system, but must develop our own. As with the Islamic system, the Orthodox one will be based not just on legislation, but on Orthodox morality as well, and will be an invitation to businessmen seeking security at a time of crisis.” Among its features would be interest-free credit issuance and prohibition of investment in gambling casinos or such activities going against Church moral values.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/interest-free-banking-russia-debates-unorthodox-orthodox-financial-alternative/5495331
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>>1381881
in fact Catholicism prohibited usury. Thomas of Aquinas wrote some brilliant pages about it.
Islam prohibits usury as well, that is why there are Islamic bonds and Islamic banking according to Shariah states that the bank and the user must share the same % of risk.
pretty cool if you ask me
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Good fucking luck competing in a modern marketplace without it. Polities don't survive on morals.

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Do you guys have any interesting bits of family history that you know of?. My grandmother recently emailed me and interview of my great great grandfather who fought in WWII. He had a very interesting story. I'll post the news paper article in segments if you guys are interested. Pic related is him and his award. Feel free to post your own stories in the thread.
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>>1381341

I have some stories, just stating this as a bumb so the thread gets more attentíon before we put effort into typing.
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Nazi Germany certainly has these really mysterious things about it where we might not ever get a real answer, and that makes it really interesting to me.

Obviously Hitler had a lot of grand plans, such as those Super-heavy tanks, the Maus, and those planned land-ships that would have carried battleship guns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landkreuzer_P._1000_Ratte

But I'm pretty vague on the details on a lot of stuff. Didn't Hitler have this huge future construction project to completely remake Berlin, or something like that?

How about Project Riese? What was that really about?
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Soviets were also strange
They had a massive secret military base in Kazakhstan with the form of a satanic pentagram
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They were trying to restore the glory of the Roman Empire in Europe.

In the context of the hidden occult aspect of the Nazi intelligentsia, they were engaged in the New Age pseudo religion Theosophy, which was created in the late 1800's and designed to reconcile a religious narrative with the emerging concepts of Darwinian evolution and wove a mythohistoric antediluvian prehistory of the world centered around the lost continent of Atlantis. The Nazis claimed to be in psychic communion with the ancient Aryan super race of Atlantis, who colonized northern Europe and propagated the Aryan race, and now lived deep beneath the surface of the earth in subterranean cavern cities.

Thesophy is essentially the foundation of all "ancient astronaut" esque theories of history. Many Nazi's claimed that the Aryan super race was psychically channeling spiritual knowledge into their minds, guiding them in the creation of a civilization that could see their return to the surface, and the eventual colonization of the galaxy and reconnection with the wider Cosmic Aryan empire.
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>>1381291
People don't like to talk about it, but Satanism has been extremely prevalent in high ranking military figures throughout the 19th and 20th centuries. People always scoff at these notions like they're just crazy, but a man who's at that high of a level of society with so much power and influence would absolutely be drawn to the ideas of various Satanic ideologies.

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Anyone know where I could find a full transcript or recording of the 1934 debate between Huey Long (U.S. Senator and former Governor of Louisiana, and founder of the short-lived Share Our Wealth program) and Norman Thomas (leader of the Socialist Party of America)?
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>>1381213

Huey P. Long was killed by FDR before the election to make sure that America would fight for Judeo-Communism and against the Third Reich.
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>>1381238
I don't about that, but I agree that there were plenty of people at the federal level who WOULD have done something like that if it came to it, if someone else hadn't got to him first. And I agree that the United States would have been somewhat less likely to have entered the European war if he'd lived to become president, or at any rate, it would have been handled very differently.

No knowledge on any sauce for that debate, then?
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>you will never go back in time and save him

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