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>Existed for over 1000 years
>Nobody can name even 4 important things that happened in it
>"Caesar! Oh I know him! Everyone does! Who the fuck is JUSTinian?"
>No curriculum in the West or East gives a crap about it
>Latched onto by hipsters for all the above reasons

Why was Byzantium such a failure?
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Cause on the whole they're unimportant to western civilization
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Because it was just another hereditary monarchy pretending to be something great like the SPQR.

Frankly, the Diocletian reforms marked the final phase of Rome losing all of its cultural dynamism and becoming another petty oriental despotism.
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This is a shitty bait

I'd be disappointed if you received anything more than facetiousness for it.

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If Atatürk had lived to see World War II, how would the role of Turkey likely be different?
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>>1444568
I can't see him getting Tukey involved in that kind of hatchet fight, especially with his experiences in WW1.

At MOST, he'd join the allies in like 1944 but not actually do much of anything.
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>>1444593
Inonu did exactly that.
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France gave Turkey Hatay province in return for neutrality in WWII. Tough to see Ataturk passing up that deal.

How often did people bathe throughout history? I'm most curious about the 12th century upwards.
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>>1443634
that baby being smothered
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Ancient times?

Often

Medieval times?

Pretty often

Early modern times?

"Hurr bathing is for arrogant devil worshipers and it'll make you sick. Who needs baths when we have nice clean linen now?"
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>>1444039
that guy peeping

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I know almost nothing about Arab history. Is there a good entry level book on the rise of the arab empires?
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Muhammad: A Biography of the Prophet
Islam: A Short History
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Here's for something more in-depth op , someone shared these pastebin on /his sometime ago. Islamic history is fucking interesting.

>Muslim Spain
http://pastebin.com/WzdNxB71

>Abu Bakr Al-Siddiq (1st Rashidun caliphs)
http://pastebin.com/MitS95SX

>Abbasid era
http://pastebin.com/uRQTNHdN


might not be what youre looking for but read it anyway.

>The crusades

http://pastebin.com/7h8fASgv

>Ottoman empire
http://pastebin.com/EqmE0f0g

>Jihad
http://pastebin.com/6BhNAUYx

>Muslim brotherhood
http://pastebin.com/wBAK4UqK

>Iranian revolution
http://pastebin.com/B5DX4p9C
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>>1442782
>>1442824

Interesting stuff anons. Thanks!

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Bucket helmets will always be the best helmets
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>can't see shit
>can't hear shit
>gets humid as fuck inside from just breathing
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>>1440462
Agreed.

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What makes a sword look cool/beautiful or ugly, in your opinion?
Gladius is IMO one of the uglier sword designs. Boring hilt, short straight broad blade (compare to short and fat people).

Relatively slender blade looks good, but too slender starts to look like a needle rather than a sword. Curve looks good too and can make even really broad blades aesthetically pleasing.

Swept-hilts are probably the prettiest type of hilt, while cup-hilts look boring. Pappenheimer is a nice balance of good hand protection and aesthetics.
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>>1438843
I think you're over simplifying. It's a combination of sytles and features that make the aesthetic. You're being a bit bold suggesting all cup hilted blades look bad. While I'm not a fan either someone I train with has one and it grows on you. Plus their practicality is to die for.
Not all cups look good but particular combinations of cup and quillion and the cup being the right size and I really don't mind it.

I like a smoother blade with light camber with minimal cross guard hilt. Perhaps a ring guard and a leaver wrap with a simple, smooth leather pommel.
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Colichemarde is another blade type that I find ugly. Strong forte for parrying and a pointy tip makes sense, but it looks weird when it becomes abruptly narrow rather than smoothly tapering.
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>>1438853
>You're being a bit bold suggesting all cup hilted blades look bad. While I'm not a fan either someone I train with has one and it grows on you. Plus their practicality is to die for.

Cup-hilts do look boring in comparison to swept-hilts, but partly the reason the look lame to me is that I associate cup-hilt with Zorro-like clowns with flexible foil blades.... so that's more of an learned association thing. They are very practical though.

So whats up with middle-class-guevara-shirt-wearing-edgy-college-kids who still believe in socialism, even though every example proves it doesn't work?

True-socialism-has-never-been-tried fags not invited.
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Trotskyists are the reason
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>>1448635
Why is it always Upper Middle Class white kids is my question. Shouldn't it be a worker's movement?
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>>1448690
>>1448635

There are working class socialists too, they tend to despise the "champagne socialists" and dream of their own "day of the rope" when all the useful idiots will hang alongside the capitalists.

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>4 million Bengalis
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Japan shouldn't have invaded the British raj
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Japs bombed all railroads used by Brits to bring food to Bengalia :DDD
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>>1447446
>t. war office
>>1447433
>we dindu nuffin, we good bois, the bengalis didn't need fishing boats anyway.

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Are the French Germanic?
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>>1446861
No they are Latin
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>>1446861
they're celtic
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>>1446861
No there are arabic

Which is more likely to spark racism in society?
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The that leaves god in the gaps
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>Atomic Theory vs Theory if Infinite Divisibility
>Which one is more likely to create an atom bomb?
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>>1445039
Creationism, if by "creationism" you aren't limiting yourself to American Heartland Protestant Biblical Literalism(tm). Mystics frantically trying to justify their Great Chain of Being have offered infinitely more to the development of racism than have empiricist biologists, historically.

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Is this the most overrated empire ever?

Rome's contribution to the sciences, medicine and religion is laughable, the only fields that they contributed anything to is engineering, philosophy and poetry.

3 FUCKING FIELDS, yet they existed for over 1000 years
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hahaha woah dude you really baited me then I sure am trolled
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>roman
>philosophy
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>le MEe MEME THREAD ;)))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))))))))ME THREAD ;))))))))))))))))) >>1451276
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysiHJkG4YZI

This is mainly about Saint Peter's role in the Church, but also Orthodox General

First of all, Peter is the rock (all the Apostles are rocks, but Peter gets singled out especially); his chair isn't. Peter is called the rock for his role in founding the Church, this is him as a person. The current Pope had no role in founding the Church, so he's not the rock. Christ did not say, "on this chair I build my Church".

Next, see Peter 1 Peter 5:1, he appeals to bishops as a "fellow bishop" ( there was no distinction between the offices of presbyter/episkopos, priest/bishop, the early Church, since there was only one parish per diocese then), not as any higher office, does any Pope today do that with encyclicals?

Thirdly, when Leo IX precipitated the schism, he mainly used the Donation of Constantine to substantiate his claims of Papal Supremacy.

Certainly, Rome did have primacy (not supremacy though, which means higher authority), but that has nothing to do with them inheriting some sort of special authority from Saint Peter's above other bishops, it just had to do with them being the capital of the empire. Their chair is not innately any different from any other bishop's chair.
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Constantine, fuck off with your heresy. Our Savior was NOT born from anal sex.
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>>1450766
You're being sacrilegious.
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Peter's the only one who gets his name changed, though, and that's a big deal in the Bible.

Also, doesn't your church trace itself back to Andrew? I mean, he was an Apostle, but I worry that he's not on Peter's level. It would mean more if you were founded by James or John. That trinity within the Apostles seems important.

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Can Christians ever admit that the bible can be wrong instead of being le metaphors?

Genesis echoes ideas found in neighboring Ugaritic and Babylonian myths, as well as wider cross cultural beliefs, such as the sky being a solid metallic or stone dome, even the English word 'heaven' ultimately goes back to a Proto-Indo-European word for stone. It's exactly what you'd expect people living the Iron Age Near East to believe. I doubt the original authors meant it to be a metaphor. Not to mention the fact that Christians historically interpreted it literally. inb4 >augustine, he interpreted everything besides the first 10 lines literally, whereas modern Christians sans fundementalists intepret nothing in it literally.
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Of course Christians accept that the bible is "wrong". They can hardly ignore that the gospels directly contradict each other in many details. The old testament follows a gradual evolution in Hebrew theology, and even the most simple biblical scholar can see that their understanding of God and the world changed over time. They don't throw away the old stories because there is still something to learn from them, about people if not about god
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>>1447409
>Can Christians ever admit that the bible can be wrong instead of being le metaphors?
The bible isn't wrong.
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>>1447409
It's not wrong

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What causes homophobia? Is it more biological(innate) or more social phenomenon? It looks like most of people have an innate aversion to gays. It's like with spiders or with shit. This type of disgust has rational roots, it's is an innate.
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>>1451421
type of disgust hasn't rational roots
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>It looks like most of people have an innate aversion to gays
Yet most people in the ancient world and in non-Abrahamic cultures generally had no problems with gays. So, ofc it's irrational disgust caused by religious indoctrination.
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>>1451442
Gays were looked down on in the ancient world

Boy on man wasn't gay to them

But man on man was

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What is the historical basis and origin for racism?
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>>1447896
Fear of the unknown. Same as the historical basis for love, murder and God, funnily enough.
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>>1447896
>They are different from my tribe
>They must be eliminated
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>>1447896
White people wouldn't be getting finger printed though.

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