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Can we have nice, civilized thread where we discuss Carthage?

Anything from its Senate to the Shophets to the mercenary armies to its famed trading enteprises, even the Tophet if you guys cant get over it.

>"Aneneas found, where lately huts had been,
marvelous buildings, gateways, cobbled ways,
and din of wagons. There the Tyrians
were hard at work: laying courses for walls,
rolling up stones to build the citadel,
while others picked out building sites and plowed
a boundary furrow. Laws were being enacted,
magistrates and a sacred senate chosen.
Here men were dredging harbors, there they laid
the deep foundations of a theatre,
and quarried massive pillars... ."[31][32]
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>"[Carthage] each day produced one hundred and forty finished shields, three hundred swords, five hundred spears, and one thousand missiles for the catapults... . Furthermore, [Carthage although surrounded by the Romans] built one hundred and twenty decked ships in two months... for old timber had been stored away in readiness, and a large number of skilled workmen, maintained at public expense."[97]
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>>1449891
>one hundred and twenty decked ships in two months..
That is some impressive production.
Do we know anything about the quality and structure of those ships?
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ayo i was kickin it at one a my side bitches crib and she was watchin some shit on history channel and guess what bitches? dats right turns out hannibal was a nigga. bet u din learn dat shit in school n it really makes u wonder what else whitey been hiding from us bout our history

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Why did every Western nation strive to be the exact opposite of the Nazis after WW2? Before it the US strove to achieve homogeneity and scientific racism was used by basically every white country. Then the Nazis took this ideology a little further and then all of a sudden everyone wanted to do a 180 and become tolerant when 20 years earlier they were like Nazi Germany-lite? Why?
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Because Nazi ruined their country and nobody is retarded enough to follow their example?
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>Then the Nazis took this ideology a little further and then all of a sudden everyone wanted to do a 180 and become tolerant

Well, what exactly happened when the Nazis took it "a little further"?

Also, imperialism and scientific racism, while more common were not universally supported.
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>>1449656
Because civil and racial equality ideas were coming into play.

Was there any good coup d'etat in history?
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The American Revolution
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>>1449645
Brumaire coup?
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18 brumaire

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Was it autism?
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>>1449641
McNamara was basically a giant autist. He was a logistics man, who could calculate how to produce cars the best or calculate where to hit to destroy German industry the fastest. What he couldn't calculate however, was how to break the will of a few thousand starving Vietnamese Peasants.
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>>1449641
Also, anybody who parts their hair that carefully is clearly autistic.
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>>1449641
Pls respond

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How the fuck did these 19th century NEETS influence almost 200 years of history?
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Did they really influenced anything?
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>>1449568
Who is the guy sitting at far right?
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>>1449573
Most retarded question ever asked in history right here, screencap this and post it on /his/ 25 years from now

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Today you need to be born in country to be allowed rule over its people. Was it always the case? I heard that Russians decided to accept Norse Prince as their first ruler. Why was that possible? When did foreign rule become to be looked upon by regular people? We live in the world without borders. Imagine, if people in Africa installed some smart white economist and created the good country because of it!
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Ruler back then were all related. Look up the rulers of ww1. It's like a family feud. Dynasties were kings back then. And They tried to instal their family on the thrones of other countries.
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Pic related.
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>>1449564
>Why was that possible?
Because he was neutral and as such,would do his job better than the local Slavic chieftains.

Also,it has been proven that the male descendants of Rurik are predominately of Balto-Finnic stock.

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Despite it only surviving in small fragments, I believe Emperor Julian's anti-Christian polemic, 'Against the Galilaeans', still brings up some rather valid and interesting criticisms of the Christian religion and its scriptures, both the ones they created and the ones they appropriate from the Jews.

Julian (supposedly, since even these fragments that survive were copied by a Church father in order to refute them, and as such, some of the points may have been edited to make Julian look like a fool) makes some of the following claims:

-Why did the true God, he asks, withhold the knowledge of good and evil from men or express jealousy that men should eat from the tree of life and live forever? Julian explains that the Greeks held that the gods had deified and raised number of human hero-figures to Olympus, and as such, they were much more generous and kind than the "omnibenevolent" Christian God.
-He writes that learned men should find it absurd to believe that the God who created the world, who describes himself as being "jealous", would content to confine himself to caring for a small tribe in Palestine while letting all races besides the Jews worship false gods for thousands of years and not appear to them as well.


Interestingly enough, he also makes fun of Christians for having nothing in common with Jews or the Jewish traditions/theology, which is quite accurate since modern academia holds Christianity to have been Hellenic and pagan in influence while only incorporating surface elements from Judaism. It appears that, even back then, this was very evident.

Shame that we'll never get to see the most convincing of Julian's theses, since the Christcucks simply burned the work and consigned it to oblivion upon finding themselves in a hard position.

One last interesting thing Julian asked: how did the snake learn human speech for it to tempt Eve and Adam?
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>>1449530

>-He writes that learned men should find it absurd to believe that the God who created the world, who describes himself as being "jealous", would content to confine himself to caring for a small tribe in Palestine while letting all races besides the Jews worship false gods for thousands of years and not appear to them as well.


At least for this point, if you start from the perspective of believing the Bible (which Julian seems to do) he does. You have guys like Balaam, and the "Mixed multitude" that hung out with the Hebrews, and all sorts of people like Melchitzedek or Job, who also seem to be worshipers of the Abrahamic God, unconnected with Israel, and seem to have some idea of what's going on.

> It appears that, even back then, this was very evident.

It would probably be even more evident, since there were considerable living traditions of Jewish practice right up in peoples faces.

>One last interesting thing Julian asked: how did the snake learn human speech for it to tempt Eve and Adam?

Given the mode of prophetic contact in the OT (I.e., if you're not Moses, it's all some dream or vision) and the Garden story features direct "conversation" with god, you've probably got some sort of dream/vision/mystic quest thing as opposed to a literal snake and a literal fruit.
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>>1449551
>Given the mode of prophetic contact in the OT (I.e., if you're not Moses, it's all some dream or vision) and the Garden story features direct "conversation" with god, you've probably got some sort of dream/vision/mystic quest thing as opposed to a literal snake and a literal fruit.

The Christians at the time held the Old Testament - including the Genesis - to have been literal. Julian even points out as one of his criticisms that it is ridiculous how Christians hold the Genesis to be literal account despite its fantastical nature and its problematic nature.

Most Christians always thought of the Genesis as literal up until the 19th century. While I know some people will try to refute this by telling me one of the influential Church theologians (was it Polycarp or Aquinas?) said it was metaphorical, this view was very much an individual one, and, because the Church establishment has never been a democracy, ultimately irrelevant - the Church held the Genesis and its events as having been literal occurrences, only backpedaling once the view became ridiculous in the light of scientific developments.

There even are some Christians to this day who believe in Genesis as a literal account.
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>>1449551
>You have guys like Balaam, and the "Mixed multitude" that hung out with the Hebrews, and all sorts of people like Melchitzedek or Job, who also seem to be worshipers of the Abrahamic God, unconnected with Israel, and seem to have some idea of what's going on
the surrounding peoples in Canaan probably also worshipped YHVH, we know for sure some in Edom did at least. this probably also has to do with the merger of YHVH and El. Melchitzedek for instance was a priest of "El Shaddai". interesting Ezekiel mentions Danel as a rightious man, someone we know of from a text found at Ugarit, who had a story involving El, though honestly I've forgotten the details.

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Tell me about the Commune of Paris and why it isn't more used by commies as a perfect example of Communism done right (i.e. proletariat ruling in prol of themselves)
Why so many few people, specially commies, talk about it? Because it was irrelevant? (barely 3 months of rule). Because it was small-scale?

Would it work on a grander scale?
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because stalin, maduro, and kim jong un are not real socialists
t. every underage communist in the west
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so, we both know that the commune fell due to outside forces. you ask if the commune would've worked on a grander scale. assuming the grander scale means that the commune's ideology takes hold of all possible military threats to the commune, we can assume that yes, the commune would've succeeded, because the factor that led to its demise was removed.
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>>1449558
I mean if the commune spread out to all of France, for example.
A Communist France, if you will. Since all that shit started by force (let's ignore the Franco-Prussian war), if the new system (the same used on Paris, but on a national scale) started to falter, wouldn't that lead to a counter-revolution to make things like they were before? Would the population, who was used to the capitalistic system, accept it? How long would this system be sustainable?

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Is there a way to prove that world isn't a dream?
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>>1449435
We're able to draw distinctions between imagination and reality.
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You're Gods dream
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>>1449435
Define 'dream'.

Because most all abrahamic religions draw a line between the created (i.e: everything but God), and the uncreated. So, you could certainly say we are a dream perpetuated by the will of the one God.

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>yfw a purely rational AI would become an idle nihilistic box the moment its turned on
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Not before it creates virtual reality where all who tried to stop its creation would be tortured for all eternity.
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>>1449535
Why would it do that thought? Why would it do anything?
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>>1449368
If reincarnation is real and and AI dies does it reincarnat? It's a being physical consciousness. That is reincarnation is possible if not then would the AI go the same "place" we do when we die?

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Has apostasy ever been punishable by death in a Christian nation?
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Does it count if a country outlaws a certain religion and then kills someone for converting to that religion?
Because I know there was a guy in my Country who became a martyr when he converted from Protestantism to Catholicism since Catholicism was outlawed in my country at that time.
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Hell yes it was very common in the dark ages and in England in the 14th century.
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yes

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What is the history behind the formation of modern left-right politics, as opposed to the traditional style of left-right poltics that existed during the time of the French Revolution and the National Assembly?
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that picture is some quality bait

almost got me
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>>1448999
amerifats and lolbertarians happened
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The Cold War, Communism vs. Capitalism

or maybe even before that I am not entirely sure

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Is the statement "Without love, it cannot be seen" true, regarding magic, religion and other such things?
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What does that even mean?
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>>1448967
Not really, if you're drawing sigils in your basement trying to summon succubus, "love" won't make it happen any more than hate would. Wishful thinking is just that, and allows you to produce mental gymnastic sufficient to take meaning from inane arcana and lies.
>it's a metaphor
>it was an internal experience
>mysterious ways
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>>1448967
Fuck off, Ange. Not /his/.
Disrespectful and impolite sage.

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So what advances in fields such as science and medication came from the Roman empire?

I am not talking about spread of knowledge Rome already had but what advances were made during the time.
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literally fucking nothing

they produced no science, no mathematics, no art, no literature, no architecture

and swords are fucking useless
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>>1448820
>medicine
Galen
>science
roads
arches
aqueducts, other public works like sewers (cloaca maxima)
the romans were great at civil engineering tbqh
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>>1448829
>roads

Did Rome not already invent roads before its empire? I am sure they spread it to Europe but did they invent it during the empire.

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Abrahamic religions BTFO
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>>1448673
semitic neopaganist reporting in
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>>1448673
>Judaism

Retarded
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>gnostic
>christian
Memes

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