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Dude, blew my mind

Such deep social criticism

Wow, so edgy and rebellious and brave, it's not like the Catholic Church has been ridiculed into oblivion since the 1700s and lost any sort of influence.

How about they try doing this kind of shit in a mosque instead. But I guess edginess is only fun when it's completely risk free and pointless.

>>1452030
This, pretty much. I don't like Christians that much either but at least they're mostly peaceful and harmless. If you want to be le edgy atheist, go shit on Islam, they really need it.

historical?

yeah ive been lonely all my life

>>1451996
I'm talking about it more as a trend.

I don't experience loneliness.

I want to be left alone tbqh. Talking/socializing with people stresses me to no end. Thats talking lightly. I should be saying, socializing and talking to people cripples my mind and body. Literally can't walk/talk/think when I'm around people.

So why doesn't it say "the world was created in 6 stages" ?
And how do you know which part you should read literally and which - metaphorically?

>>1451978
New Testament is literal, Old Testament is metaphorical mythology which can be mostly ignored. This has been Catholic position since forever.

It's only Protestant autists that started going "but wait a second it says right here in the Jewish Bible that blah blah"

>>1451985
>This has been Catholic position since forever
Since 100 years ago*

Really, I think the meme about italy being a liability is true. How many volunteers did they even contribute to operation barbossa? I doubt it equaled the divisions Germany had to send them and the forces lost and used to occupy in the retarded balkan campaigns

It probably would have calmed every one down to without them thinking hitler controlled all over europe just because he was allied with shitaly and occupied paris

>>1451888

>So my question is how would a neutrall Italy have affeced the course of the war.Lets say that they just stick to Albania.At most lets say they attack Greece and Yugoslavia independantly.Would they get the same treatment that Finland got for attacking USSR during 1941-45?

Well. if Italy stays neutral, they'd probably be wooed by the Allies, at the very least to provide material support, if not to join the war on their side. Of course, Italy can always cite fear of German invasion and reprisal as a reason to stay out of it. It's unlikely they'd be punished, even lightly, by victorious Allies.

As for the war itself, the single biggest impact will be the Mediterranean. Without an Italian presence, Britain is free to ship stuff from her colonies in India, Australia, the Middle-East, Southeast Asia, and the East Coast of Africa through the Mediterranean and up the Atlantic around Spain instead of going all the way around Africa like they did historically.

It would also be far, far easier to base warplanes in places like Cyprus and a few of the Aegean islands, for striking with bombers at places like Ploesti, which might (but probably won't) win the war in a day if they break through.

With a more favorable balance of power in the Med from the Allies point of view, the attack on Mers El Kebir is less likely to go off, as the risk of a seizure of the French fleet is less deadly. Allied campaigns to re-take French colonies and turn them over to Free France are likely to begin sooner and go smoother without the need to divert a hundred thousand troops to Ethiopia, and more to the Western Desert. Any eventual Dragoon is likely to be launched out of Corsica, not Italy.

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>>1451909

ARMIR was 10 divisions, IIRC, as well as a relatively heavy plane contingent. And it was sent when the war in the East was at least theoretically winnable. The major German commitment was around the same time as Kursk, when the initiative had already swung against them, so it hastened their defeat, but was unlikely to provide a decisive change in outcome.


> forces lost and used to occupy in the retarded balkan campaigns

The bulk of this would have happened even without Italy. Germany's intrusion into Yugoslavia came on the heels of a pro-British coup, which you can't blame the Italians for. And it was the Italians, initially, who provided the bulk of the garrison for Yugo. About the only thing you'd really get away with is Greece, but Greece was a tiny sideshow, eight divisions at their height, and that was in 1944.
You also seem to be forgetting their contribution to the battle of the Atlantic, which was significant. If you have time to read a fairly long treatise on the subject, I would recommend this.

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a613508.pdf

I swear to god its been years now and "people" refuse to stop shitposting this sikhs are bro-tier spam

I wouldn't convert, don't think I could I put up with the turban, also, though I'm not sure if entirely correct, holy text is treated very highly almost as if it was living.

Why do I find sikhism to lack the same kind of character I think other major and even not so major religions have?

I have very superficial knowledge of buddhism, hinduism or even shit like zoroastrianism, but I feel like all of those have a distinct and recognizable identity

>>1451775
haven't you watched the matrix, son? they warned us about this.

>>1451792
That's slightly different scenario, since these people didn't choose to be in the Matrix, they were enslaved by machines and they didn't even have control over the reality they were living in.

I'm aksing more about why should you pick reality if you were given a choice to be in Matrix-like reality.

>>1451800
You shouldn't.

The only reason we consider current reality as more valuable is because there are no credible fantasy-only mode of reality. If I could plug my brain into a computer and live all my real life on life support, I would. If the sensation and the brain computation all takes into account of the virtual reality, there is no need for "real" reality.

>>1451753
Marxist propaganda.

inter-generational hording of money leading to pleb descendants having undue power and fucking it up for everybody?

>>1451753
Because a lot of successful people were also corrupt

>>1451749
What the fuck did you expect? Also, dude, pls don't filthily /his/ with silly entertainment.

>>1451749
>can't show Vikings killing unarmed people
Except that they did?
>lindisfarne where they slaughtered monks
>when the Earl and his men ride into ragnars village and slaughter old men and children
>when the vikings raid that town in northumbria iirc and they kill some of the men in the church
There are other examples this is just off the top of my head.
But yes the lack of spears and the idea of a battalion of shield maidens is silly

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>>1451749
how fucking old are some of you? you still watch TV? you still watch TV expecting "real life" out of television shows?

Why would you assume stupidity when people back then were just the same as now, except they built the shoulders giants now stand upon.

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>>1451632

They were more intelligent than today's people, and Plato was a genius among geniuses, that's all you need to know.

The intellectual heights and advances the ancient Greeks reached have not been matched in stature ever since.

>>1451632
You're reading a modernized version.

Try finding a more accurate translation. Socrates/Plato weren't atheists. They worshiped their gods.

They were mystical and shitz. But you're right in one regard. They're both beyond even today's common man's intellect. That shouldn't be a surprise.

>>1451577
Rome had no warriors, only soldiers.

>>1451597
Actually warrior is now the politically correct way to refer to soldier circa "Bush Mission Accomplished No. 3285"

>>1451626
Autism
Warriors and soldiers are two very different beasts

it aint me

>>1451538
ALL wars are 90% chaos and 10% an actual plan actually followed.

>>1451538
>Did chaotic shit like this actually take place over there
Yes.
>is this an over-stylized depiction
Also yes.

There were outposts on the border that were poorly manned and under supplied often leading to chaos and disorganization. In that scene it's cranked up to 11 as a metaphor for an unwinnable war.

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Well, it's not like Ukrainians have anyone else to choose from.

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>>1451495
He was more like a figurehead if anything, he's just a symbol.

>>1451558
Even among OUN crowd there're Stetsko, Shukhevych, Rebet or Konovalets. Bandera just kinda stuck as a symbol, partly because every movement needs a leader figure, partly because their enemies wanted to portray him as the devil himself.

Also he was a fucking manlet, 158 cm tall.

>>1451495
More of a figurehead against Communism,he was more of a traitor,actually.He ignored the Germans and their cleansing of Western Ukraine because he was more interested in killing Russians and Poles in the regions where they've formed the majority.

>>1451481
I mean you could turn that around any which way.

Where the fuck did miniscule European Kingdoms get land for feudal lords on top of knights, and commoner landholders & free farmers?

Where the fuck did miniscule European Kingdoms get land for commoner landholders on top of feudal lords, and knights & free farmers?

Where the fuck did miniscule European Kingdoms get land for free farmers on top of feudal lords, and commoner landholders & knights?

Feudal Lords were knights

>>1451481

You can paid them with money and/or maintenance.

>>1451457

>You can't prove me wrong.
Yes, I can. Just take a look at the muslim world

>>1451488
>implying the condition of the Muslim world today is a mere result of Islam.

Wew laddy

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>>1451457
>ultra alpha warrior religion
More sikh though

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Naia is a 12,000- to 13,000-year-old human skeleton of a teenage female that was found on the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico. The bones were part of a 2007 discovery of a cache of animal bones in an underwater chamber called Hoyo Negro (Spanish for "Black Hole") in the Sac Actun cave system.[1] The remains have been described as the "oldest, most complete and genetically intact human skeleton in the New World".The skeleton, dubbed "Naia" (an ancient Greek name related to water nymphs) by her discoverers, belonged to a teenage girl who fell more than 100 feet to her death nearly a half mile inside an elaborate network of karst caves that were dry at the end of the Pleistocene.

>>1451301
always wondered what happened to the people living on the numerous land bridges throughout human history

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So Atlantis could be based on a real city lost to the sea when the levels rose ?