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>>1461897
>Pic not related

Isn't that Raskolnikov about to murder the landlady in Crime and Punishment? Seems pretty related to me.

There are only really two approaches to crime: punishment and rehabilitation. They're both "moral", and the balance between the two a society takes is largely a product of that societies technological and administrative capacity. Ancient societies with minimal state apparatus prefered direct punishments of the "eye for an eye" variety for the most part because they lacked real alternatives, modern states put more of a focus on imprisonment and rehabilitation because it has the economic power to make that practical, but punishment is still a central pillar of most legal systems.

>>1461925
Yet it does naught to change the criminal into a productive member of society, or deter someone from committing a crime. Seems like a flawed and useless system to me.

"an eye for an eye" sounds much more practical, to be honest.

Bear in mind I come from a third world shithole, where an average prison is miles better than the average life of a poor/very poor person.

Pic not related because I just googled some shit (and yes, you're correct in regards to that).

>>1461942
>Yet it does naught to change the criminal into a productive member of society, or deter someone from committing a crime. Seems like a flawed and useless system to me.

Depends how you approach it, Norway for example has extremely low rates of recidivism and one of the most "rehabilitation-focused" legal systems in the world. Meanwhile the USA is almost solely concerned with punishment and has skyhigh rates of re-offending.

>"an eye for an eye" sounds much more practical, to be honest.

It appeals directly to our sense of justice and is definitely the more economical approach, but society benefits much more from rehabilitation in the long run.

>Bear in mind I come from a third world shithole, where an average prison is miles better than the average life of a poor/very poor person.

Economic weakness makes rehabilitation generally ineffective, it's an expensive route to take. The best alternative in such situations could be labor camps, like the pre-Soviet Russian gulag Raskolnikov is sent to. There, criminals can pay back society thru unpaid labor and hopefully learn a usable trade they can rely on when they are released to keep them from going back to crime.

>>1461850
Ok, but what difference does it make? does it make any sense in our current circumstances to abolish these rights? Does it make constitutional principles any more flexible knowing they are the laws of men and not God?

>>1461850
First, no. That argument is shit, being that there are female dominant species all over the damn place.

Second, "natural order" arguments are moot when concerning a civilized society. This is not Lord of the Flies, there are rules that need to be decided based on the situation at hand.

>>1461894
This man gets it.

>>1461829
Medieval Islamic civilization was pretty much based on a Persian foundation. Music, art, architecture, etc. Muslim Arabs don't like admitting this but they can ignore it, it's just neckbeard bragging rights.

What triggers them is the idea that islam was influenced by a heretical religion. Praying 5 times a day? Prayer caps? A ton of jewish traditions imported into islam via christianity? All ultimately rooted in Zoroastrian practices. This stings them to their core.

It's best to think of it as one of many avenues through which the Arab inferiority complex shows itself. I can't imagine non-Arab muslims giving a shit.

t. Bahram Piroozdoost

I vote Zoroastrianism as the official religion of /his/. Not to get Arabs assmad but because it's the biggest relatively recently deceased religion.

>>1461881
>recently deceased

It's still around though.

No, because he was satire, as Rousseau so deftly pointed out

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>>1461731
lmao

Not really. He was much like Thucydides, in that he was a thinker of realpolitik before it was ever a thing.

Honestly, no, it's an essential step in self-overcoming

>>1461606
It' meaningless to ask...

Nothingism is not a thing.

Eastern Orthodox Churches were infiltrated by the NKVD / KGB after the Russian revolution, the current Patriarch of Moscow a fucking ex-KGB agent, much like Putin. So while they might not endorse liberal faggotry like western churches, they're still corrupt as fuck.

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>>1461564
Leave you traitor
If one bad pope has your running like a coward to find your safe space then I can't imagine what real adversity will do to you
Best you leave now

>>1461586
Running? Pffsh. Walking pace if anything.

depends what you mean by it. humans evolving separately from apes on different continents? definitely no. but there does seem to be indicators that the different homo erectus populations were exchanging genes with each other more than we knew and thus were still able to interbreed with homo sapiens when they left africa.

>>1461585
So you're more the Assimilation idea then?

Is there anybody who believes this shit who isn't some kind of racial supremacist. I've seen similar theories from whacked out asians trying to claim they are separate from all other humans. I can't think of a reason to buy this unless I have a vested interest in feeling superior to others.

Only until something better comes along.

And given the nature of a necessary evil, it shouldn't take much for something to be better.

>>1461515
Define a necessary evil in the context of it taking the form of a human being.

>>1461559
Saddam Hussain's regime was brutal and ethnically cleansed his Kurdish citizens, but at the same time it maintained order, it was secular, it kept Iran checked and didn't allow terrorism to fester in Iraq.

Define "legendary"

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Bumping

Clarko from my btec sport course

But that's true

>>1461476

Most of them did. In fact most had died of disease before any kind of major colonisation had been attempted.

>>1461476
what shitty state's education system gave you that impression? i was taught they were wiped-out deliberately and even more so from disease. various massacres, evictions, and destruction of their resources were all calculated, cruel, and signed-off on as military operations.

>Today's Republican Party opposes big government
Well, it went off the rails with the first sentence. The GOP loves big government, it just wants that big government to be focused on what they perceive to be their defense and financial interests, as well as their moral interests (bans on abortion, gay marriage, et al.)

>muh party-o-lincoln held the purest intentions toward blacks until northern businessmen ruined errything
This is entirely inaccurate.

>no mention of the Southern strategy, or of other major political realignments

This video is fucking bullshit.

only a vapid /pol/ack would buy into this, which is fine because that's the kind of person who's voting for tremp already

That video is fucking bullshit.

>>1461466
Very.

>>1461464

Here's the only reply you're going to get because this isn't bait, OP.

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>>1461464
a-and?

>>1461464
I disagree. Nazis are bad guys and the Americans were an army of real world Han Solos who saved the incompetent European countries from evil madman Hitler's grasp and also fucked Japan up but then made it better than it was before and liberated then from their evil emperor.

Felate a gun

>>1461405
in the Pacific?
yes

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>i only care to discuss war, death and destruction

REEE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tei3tUY09Pc

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Why can't you people realize that a historical phenomenon is not to be simplified to one or two lines? The American financial and material contributions were crucial to the war effort, but so was the participation of millions of soviets who were so mentally raped by combats that they looked forward to playing Russian roulette.

>>1461369
Russian roulette is awesome

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>>1461352
>katyn was actually a gay polish suicide pact to make russia look bad