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>City somehow becomes a center of trade
>Wealth starts to accumulate within the city as a result of trade
>As the city becomes more and more wealthy, its neighbors become more envious
>The city becomes the target of barbarian raids, as well as attacks by neighboring cities
>The city is forced to form an army to defend itself
>Eventually, the city decides to use this army not just to defend, but also to pillage and dominate other cities, justifying it as a form of pre-emptive self-defense
>Eventually, the city ends of controlling a substantial area of land through its army
>Now the city wants to trade with other people who are further away
>It starts building a merchant fleet
>Pirates start attacking the merchant vessels, the city is forced to build a navy for defense.
>Once the pirates are gone, a use must be found for the navy.
>The navy is then used to prey on the ships of rival cities and control trade routes.
Eventually, the navy is used to transport the army to rival cities and fuck them up
>The city now dominates the entire surrounding area
Is this how an empire forms?
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>>3384129
The second half (starting from "Now the city wants to trade...") is about right, the first half is silly.
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No, empires just pop up with millions of people in them at the snap of a finger
Yes empires start as small establishments you dumbfuck
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What happened to Islam in renaissance until WW I? Did it go downhill for the islamic power, and why did it happened?
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There was 3 dominant powers
Suuni Ottoman Turks, Shia Persians, and Indian Mughals, and countless other irrelevant states
They slowly became weak, irrelevant, or colonised
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>What happened to Islam in renaissance until WW I? Did it go downhill for the islamic power, and why did it happened?
This happened.
It went downhill after WWI due to the goatfuckers among them.
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What did he mean by this? 2017-09-15 12:13:25 Post No.3383920
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO6Zk5qkYcA
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your mother will die in her sleep if this video has a dramatic music playing on the background
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>>3383967
say goodbye to her
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>>3383920
He was insane. Even Hitler thought so.
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>that think when the only one to escape the cave
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Prehistorical painting 2017-09-14 11:51:27 Post No.3383818
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I'll start
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bait
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Reminds me of the approach futurism takes with evoking movement
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>you will never attend liturgy at the most glorious church on earth
>you will never parade through the pristine streets in a festival dedicated to the theotokos
>you will never cheer on your boys with the lads at the hippodrome
>you will never look dapper in a tunic+chlamys
>you will never visit the ports and have your pick from the exquisite riches of the orient and occident
>you will never woo a noble maiden with your boyish greek charm
>you will never honestly consider yourself a true roman
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What a shame.
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>you will never loot the richest city on Earth
>you will never get revenge for the massacre of the latins
>you will never rape the orthodogs so hard they never recover
>you will never look out over your city and watch piles of gold, gems, statues, and religious artifacts being unloaded from crusader ships
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>>3384522
DELET THIS
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Can we get a comparative mythology thread going?
What are some mythological parallels (stories, figures, creatures etc.) from seemingly unrelated cultures that you are aware of? Is it all pure coincidence or is there more to it?
Here's one of the most well known examples for an almost universal motif.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamata_no_Orochi
"This motif, known as chaoskampf (German for "struggle against chaos") represents the clash between order and chaos. Often as these myths evolve from their original source, the role of the storm god (himself often the head of a pantheon) is adopted by culture heroes or a personage symbolizing royalty. A non-exclusive list of mythological parallels to the story of Susanoo vs. Orochi include:
Thor vs. Jörmungandr (Norse)
Tarhunt vs. Illuyanka (Hittite)
Zeus vs. Typhon (Greek)
Indra vs. Vritra (Indian)
Marduk vs. Tiamat (Babylonian)
Ra vs. Apep (Egyptian)
In many of these examples, the serpent god is often seen as multi-headed or multi-tailed."
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Will to power vs Christian morality go 2017-09-14 10:52:36 Post No.3383575
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Will to power vs Christian morality go
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Power vs weakness ,nietzche vs natural law go I need help deciding
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Nietzsche says man is good and should look to become better by embracing who he is
Christianity says man is born in sin and should look to become better by changing who he is
Which sounds better to you??
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>asking which sounds better and not which is true
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>>3383593
Power
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How smart do I have to be to understand philosophy/philosophical theories of different philosophers?
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tell me
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>>3383570
Not at all because most of them are literally just "my opinion is right."
2 things you need to understand in order to actually engage in philosophical discourse.
1) Propositional logic and the mechanisms of formalizing ideas.
2) The fact that axioms are often arbitrary and most things cannot be logically justified. You're under no obligation to agree with someone else's values, therefore even if their logic is sound it's still possible to disagree with them without either of you being wrong because many axioms are based on subjective value judgements.
Basically study logic and set theory a little and then don't be an autist about your views.
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Did the Fatimid caliphs style themselves as the successors of Ali, or of the Imams?
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What's the difference? Ali is the first imam. All imams are successors and descendants of Ali.
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Italy or Greece
Which country shaped Western Civilization the most?
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Culturaly greece anything else italy.
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Italy
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>>3383488
well italy wasn't a country until the 1800's
I suppose in a manner of speaking neither was greece
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How do I live ascetically?
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Do you think you are going to get validation information about ascetic lifestyles from 4chan?
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>>3383479
nofap
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>>3383479
Whenever you feel like you want something, beat yourself in the head until the desire stops
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>over 100 million people died because two autistic superpowers had a disagreement over how to distribute resources
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I never really thought about until very recently, but how and when did you guys learn about death? As far as I can tell, I have always known and been fascinated about death and dying. As close as I can figure, my parents must have explained the concept to me as a very young child (~3 years old) when I had a risky surgery.
When did you guys learn about death, and how did it affect you?
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as far as i know i've always known, didn't put much thought for it until i was 5, at that point i accepted that i would die
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>When did you guys learn about death, and how did it affect you?
I was 3 or 4 years old and I'd gone up into the attic with my mom to look at an old photo album she wanted to show me. When she turned on the light, I saw a sparrow lying on the floor. It must have gotten in through a gap in the roof somewhere and couldn't find its way out. Anyway, I asked my mom why it wasn't moving and she told me that it was dead, and explained that this is just something that happens to living things eventually.
I wasn't really bothered. I don't think I quite understood the significance of it being dead at the time and thought it was very interesting to be able to pick up a bird and look at it up close.
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>>3383380
I specifically remember my mom was giving me a bath when I was like 5 and I asked her about death and she told me about how everyone dies and then I started to cry
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Superior Habesha Group
Ignore the Ethiopenisians
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