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Why do these ones spefically fill me with rage? Its not normal. Mormon or hijabi women dont so this. Just the religous Jewish women.
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>>1535836
Centuries of inbreeding have made them just inhuman enough to put them in the uncanny valley.
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>>1535836
What are they doing other than being hideous

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So we can all agree ww1 was the worst war to fight in right?

Pic unrelated
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>>1535776
I would argue that fighting as a line infantry soldier was worse.

And I really wouldn't like to be a prisoner of war in WWII. This shit was far worse than fighting.
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>>1535776
Nope, eastern front of WWII was hell on earth
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>>1536564
Or a POW in the Civil War or Vietnam. Shit got really nasty

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>ITT Take an important piece of history, whether a country, person, philosophy or concept and trivialize it.

Let's get this shit talker out the way

>Holy
>Roman
>Empire
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>French
>Philosophy
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>United
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>to crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

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What's a good way to learn about Europe between the fall of Rome and the Renaissance? are there decent books written on the subject or will I just need to surf Wikipedia?
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>>1535698
>What's a good way to learn about Europe
Why u iz b racis or sum'? Why don't you want to learn about African and Queer history?
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>>1535706
I may take a lgbt history course in college and I'm already taking one on ME history
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History of Byzantium podcast by Robin Pierson is a good start for the eastern Mediterranean.

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Well, more Q anyway. I'm interested in learning more about Hellenic paganism, not the mythology, more everything else.

>How did they worship? What were their rituals?

>What did the average temple look like?

>Did they identify foreign pantheons with their own, or were they separate?

>Did the gods they worshiped change over time? E.g. could a village that worshiped Demeter start worshiping Apollo?

>How was the pantheon itself viewed? Was Zeus always supreme among the Olympians or did the top god change in the eyes of the worshipers?

>Were religious wars ever fought between followers of different cults?

>What were the roles of Oracles and how were they viewed? With fear or reverence?
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>>1535613

http://www.theoi.com/
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Here's the mythology bibliography, it's not just about the stories, the myths, but deals with religion as well:

http://pastebin.com/17BuEyuq

This right here is a gold mine for myths: >>1536038

I'll answer what I can.

>Did they identify foreign pantheons with their own, or were they separate?
Interpretatio graeca. Lots of mixing up with the Egyptian pantheon even though those Gods are not even of Indo-European origins, for example.

Paganism is very universalistic.

>Did the gods they worshiped change over time? E.g. could a village that worshiped Demeter start worshiping Apollo?
You could add a statute to a temple dedicated to another God.

Your allegiance to a Deity or another depends on how he or she rewards your faith.

Pact with Athena for victory -> build a big temple to her once you win, commission statues and songs, etc.

>How was the pantheon itself viewed? Was Zeus always supreme among the Olympians or did the top god change in the eyes of the worshipers?
Zeus is the guy in charge, he's not stepping down now that he's there.

>Were religious wars ever fought between followers of different cults?
Why would they do such thing, lol. It's so goddamn stupid, unthinkable, foreign.

You fight for secular reasons, Ares is lord.

>What were the roles of Oracles and how were they viewed? With fear or reverence?
The Oracle of Delphi was an institution whose respect was pan-Hellenic, and so were their riches.

This is a condensed version of what prof. Donald Kagan said in the Open Yale Course on Ancient Greece.

You go on a pilgrimage to Delphi, visit the Oracle, but there's a queue. You want to skip the queue, so you talk to the priest, bribe him with food and offers, talk to him, he hears the latest news from you.

Once you're in the presence of the oracle, she'll speak in tongues, the priest will tell you the latest news he heard from the guy that came before you.

That's how the Oracle of Delphi was so accurate in its predictions, the best in all Greece.
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>>1535613
>E.g. could a village that worshiped Demeter start worshiping Apollo?

Individuals didn't do much worshipping, that was the job of priests. A regular goy might make an offering to Apollo to cure his shingles, another to Hermes before undertaking a journey, and another to Aphrodite to help with >tfw no gf
While gods certainly had geographic regions where they were dominant, as Hera was in Sparta or as Athena was in Athens, for the most part people didn't align themselves with particular gods, they made offerings when they wanted a god's blessing but the rest of the time they left the task of honoring the gods to the priests.

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Where is this fucking God you guys talk about all the time?
I bet you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about, but people just use this image to explain shit you don't understand.
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>>1535593
faith

they have faith, they believe

thats what makes religion so hard, you have to believe in what you may never see
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>>1535602
>hard
Actually that's pretty easy and the default common sense mode of thinking.
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>>1535617
Maybe 300 year ago, but nowadays most people are cynical nihilistic cunts like yourself, and won't allow faith/belief in your life

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Are muslims basicly arian christians which also fanaticly follow the life of Mohammed?
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>>1535586
arians thought that christ was divine and part of the trinity, just that he was lesser than God the Father and created by him
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What's the muslim equivalent of the trinity? I.e. a piece of dogma so retarded that religious scholars have to explain it more or less with "duh, it's not supposed to make sense"?
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John of Damascus thought that an Arian monk influenced Mohammed.

The Koran cites Gnostic infancy gospels from the first couple centuries AD.

Islam is a lie of the devil.

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Post systems of government better than democratic republicanism.
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Neocameralism.

>Political agents invested with transient authority by multi-party democratic systems have an overwhelming (and demonstrably irresistible) incentive to plunder society with the greatest possible rapidity and comprehensiveness. Anything they neglect to steal – or ‘leave on the table’ – is likely to be inherited by political successors who are not only unconnected, but actually opposed, and who can therefore be expected to utilize all available resources to the detriment of their foes. Whatever is left behind becomes a weapon in your enemy’s hand. Best, then, to destroy what cannot be stolen. From the perspective of a democratic politician, any type of social good that is neither directly appropriable nor attributable to (their own) partisan policy is sheer waste, and counts for nothing, whilst even the most grievous social misfortune – so long as it can be assigned to a prior administration or postponed until a subsequent one – figures in rational calculations as an obvious blessing. The long-range techno-economic improvements and associated accumulation of cultural capital that constituted social progress in its old (Whig) sense are in nobody’s political interest. Once democracy flourishes, they face the immediate threat of extinction.
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monarchy of city-states
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Technocratic ruling branch with a democratic republican goal-setting + boundary-setting + power-checking branch.

Why have Muslim empires so consistently excelled at Architecture?

>4,000 years of pooinloo hindpoos and their most defining monument is the Taj Mahal
>4,000 years of hebes in Jerusalem and their most defining monument is the Dome of the Rock
>Thousands of years of spaniards before and after Muslim rule in Spain and their defining monuments are castles and mosques made by Muslims

Have there ever been a historical rival to Muslims in terms of architectural prowess?
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>>1535410
>Have there ever been a historical rival to Muslims in terms of architectural prowess?

Greeks, Romans, Gothic and Baroque Europe.
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>>1535410
>4,000 years of pooinloo hindpoos and their most defining monument is the Taj Mahal

Built by a Islamic dynasty...

What led to the creation of the Nestorian Church?

Why was it so much more successful proselytizing in Asia than the other ancient Churches?
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>>1535333
Like the Jesuits, it was willing to bend scripture to appease heretics
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>>1535378
Or maybe it's even something simpler still, like being there first, quickest, and least opposition, because the original Nestorian churches and missionaries originated from the East to begin with, and went deeper into East before anyone else
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>>1535398
*and with the least opposition

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Gallic and Palmyrian Empires
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>>1535309
>Hun
>Empire
It was nothing but a loose confederation of tribes brought together under the heel of Atilla. Also Huns are a meme people.

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Was there any military unit that actually never surrended? I only know about ''victory or death'' triariis.
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>>1535065
I'm sure there's been thousands of squads or fireteams that never surrendered.
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>>1535069
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ESPECIALLY IN FRANCE XD
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>>1535065
>>1535069

There's plenty of stories of heroism like that in the pockets of Stalingrad. For every unit who surrendered, there was another that fought to the last man.

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What if I choose to let an abstract concept influence my decision making over my own hedonistic desires?
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An abstract concept is not necessarily a spook.
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>>1535003
all concepts are spooks
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>>1534981
As long as it fulfills a preference you hold, the preference that in this matter you feel is most important, is that not simply hedonism?

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Tell me about the hanse
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Why does he wear the mask?
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There's not much to tell. A bunch Low German / Dutch trade cities that mainly operated in the North Sea and Baltic Sea region. Declined into irrelevancy as transcontinental trade routes grew in importance and as many of them weren't militarily strong enough to stay independent.
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>>1535031
I think you're selling them quite short, they did have lots of influence in their region.

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>tfw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty
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>mfw pederasty will not become socially acceptable again in your life time
>mfw born into the single period in history where hitting that sweet boipussy is seen as a sin on par with murder
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>>1534930
What about it, OP? Does it rustle your jimmies or tickle your fancy?
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>>1534930
Did you just learn of this today?

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