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What the Romans ask is that you shut the fuck up and you pay tributes. You do that, you can keep your religion, your cultural identity, etc. and the Romans can keep you safe, safer than your military leadership that couldn't beat the Romans.

If you don't, and you rebel, they'll fuck you over.

They keyword being "if."

Colonialists want more. They want your delicious gold and other natural resources, and they want you to convert to Christianity.

There is no "if."

>>1627613
Yeah, but the Romans were brown people who conquered whites, so its okay.

>>1627613
>Was there any difference between the way Romans treated their imperial provinces and the way lets say Spanish handled their colonies?

YES.

THE ROMAN SYSTEM WAS AN IMPERIAL SYSTEM WHICH CONSISTED IN INTEGRATING TERRITORIES, AND PEOPLES, INTO THE IMPERIAL WHOLE; THE SPANISH SYSTEM —AND OTHER POSTROMAN EUROPEAN, AMERICAN, AND MIDEASTERN, SYSTEMS UP UNTIL NOW— WAS A COLONIALIST SYSTEM WHICH CONSISTED IN MERE POLITICAL ANNEXATION, MAINTAINING THE ANNEXED TERRITORIES, AND THEIR PEOPLES, AS LANDHOLDINGS, AND SLAVES.

>>1627537
economics and money is a spook and therefore, not relevant

>>1627537
Plebs ignore history in general, what's your point?

Because economics is a bunch of horseshit. It produces literally nothing of value

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3 (THREE) WHOLE LEGIONS

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>>1627513
are there any other examples in history of one mans blunder setting the world back 2000 years?

>>1627577

Hillary Clinton's father?

>>1627376

The House of Tancred de Hauteville.

>Basil I, called the Macedonian (Greek: Βασίλειος ὁ Μαkεδών, Basíleios ō Makedṓn; 811 – August 29, 886) was a Byzantine Emperor who reigned from 867 to 886. Born a simple peasant in the Byzantine theme of Macedonia, he rose in the Imperial court, and usurped the Imperial throne from Emperor Michael III (r. 842–867). Despite his humble origins, he showed great ability in running the affairs of state, leading to a revival of Imperial power and a renaissance of Byzantine art. He was perceived by the Byzantines as one of their greatest emperors, and the Macedonian dynasty, which he founded, ruled over what is regarded as the most glorious and prosperous era of the Byzantine Empire.

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>>1627376
Liu Bang.
>Liu Bang was born in a peasant family in Zhongyang Village (中陽里), Feng Town (豐邑), Pei County (沛郡), which is in present-day Feng County, Xuzhou, Jiangsu. His parents' names were not recorded in history

>The young Liu Bang was outspoken, charismatic, and of great forbearance and tolerance. However, he enjoyed loafing, disliked reading, and showed no interest in farming, hence his father often called him a "little rascal". Liu Bang persisted in his idling ways and depended on his brother's family for food and lodging.
He then proceeded to become the first emperor of the Han dynasty, which lasted over four centuries.

The Chinese's dominant ethnic group and writing are named after said dynasty.

>>1627364

He's an almost perfect example of the Peter Principle.

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>>1627364
fuck off Erwin

>>1627749
PANZER ELITE
BORN TO COMPETE
NEVER RETREAT

>>1627174
Yes.

>>1627192
damn

Probably not

Diogenes has a lot of stories attached to him

>>1626376
Russia is half the size of the USSR and no longer on a war footing

>>1626378
Yep, pathetic.

>>1626390
Ok

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>>1625852
Basically

>>1625856
The idea is that after the revolutionary period, the people would realize the benefits of communism and it would become so natural to them there would be no more need for a state.

Thus, the state would slowly wither away, with the last portions to go being law enforcement and military.

After that, everything is supposed to work out due to a shift in political, economic and social understanding, aka Star Trek rules: "In the future, we strive for personal advancement, not profit" etc.

>>1625978
Yeah basically it's the idiotic notion that people are naturally anarchist and only government is holding the back and once you remove the government society will magically turn into an anarchist utopia.

Makes you wonder how government came about to begin with huh, I guess aliens forced it on us

>>1625140
Because it's the no man's land between Classicists and Medievalists. The former usually find the Latin sources of the era uninteresting, stilted, or depressing, and the latter don't know Greek or Arabic more often than not so they're left with a limited selection of source material.

>>1625140
Because modern folks are slaves to the concept of the nation-state, which wasn't a solid feature of the early middle ages.

>>1625140
I really enjoy that era, the Huns proof once more how cav is superior.

Some autist writing about his conworld in his conlang

>>1624580

The secrets of immortality.

>>1624580
The muggles gateway to magic

>>1624257
They didn't need slavery anymore so why let others have fun?

>>1624257
poo poo
pee pee
hands of muh private property!!!!

>>1624257

Nice try porky

>>1623009
Catholics too.

Here in the Philippines, I remember times when something becomes so popular, some overzealous octogenarian priest rants something about it, and then it becomes a meme among senior-citizen catholics and before you know it, weird condemnations happen.

Though I can only remember Harry Potter an that stupid Asereje song or whatever. Tamagotchi too at one point.

>>1623009
>Baphomet
>Satanic
I really do agree, why do they think everything is satanic? If it's not abrahamic they label it satanic. Esotericists and occultists can't do their thing anymore without soccer moms getting all up in arms about it.

>>1623009

Many Christian preachers drum up a fear of satanism in their flock because it makes them more willing to give money. Fear can be a powerful motivator, which is why so many so-called "christians" make such a big deal out of hellfire, and the importance of giving money to your priests to avoid hellfire.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonine_Plague#Impact

>>1622861
Powered mills would also lower the need for beasts of burden, which would increase rural hygiene.

>>1622861
>Romans
>blonde or blue eyed
Those are dirty Germanic barbarians wearing Roman armor. Probably stolen.

Germany and France were two mistakes

>>1622804
What were the alternatives?

>>1622804
This. Lorraine should have conquered both when it had the chance.

Presumably something to the effect of

>urban centers grow due to increased agriculture and trade
>successive crop failures
>people who are starving to death raid neighbors for food
>warfare discourages trade
>more starvation
>???????
>profit

>>1619722
>people who are starving to death raid neighbors for food

Considering Myceneans were a war like people I doubt they could be beaten by some warring faggots

>>1619701
Well if you read about, you would find out that we have no idea. There are theories around climate, volcanoes, barbarian migrations and what else.

The best clue is in Egypt, since they managed to hold on for a while before going to shit with the dusk of the New Kingdom. They have stellas describing successful battles against the "Sea Peoples", who were supposed to come from "all lands north". There were also multiple fortresses raised in Lybia to prevent the raids.

Some of the last surviving reports in linear B type writing come just from before the collapse (which is called Late Bronze Age Collapse), and detail an increase in piracy and slavery across eastern Mediterranean Sea. This coincides with a rather large migration into the Balkan region, as well as a significant move in general.

So tl;dr is pretty much what happened during the Fall of Rome, but much earlier and thus with no survivors.