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Was the US justified in dropping two nukes on japan?
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Nips talked shit, Nips got hit
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>>1750564
It was just dickwaving to try to scare the Soviets.
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>>1750564
Yes
Needed to show the Russians and Stalin it worked
Needed to end imperial Japan
Do war crimes exist?
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>>1743090
obviously.
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>let's play war by the rules
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Nope just a figment of the UN's imagination
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>the civil war wasn't about slavery
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>>1752738
To be fair, I am not a Francoist, but he did not reinstall slavery.
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>>1752738
>it wuz about states rights
To own slaves
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>>1752838
The Northern states didn't have the right to abolish slavery in the South.
Why is Islamic architecture better than Christian architecture?
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>>1750015
"""Islamic""" architecture was stolen from the Byzantines.
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>>1750015
Reminder that muslims have never invented anything of worth and were only stealing from other cultures.
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>>1750015
Holy fuck, top tier b8
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Is classical antiquity the most based period in the history of humanity?
>Amazing Art and Architecture. Beautiful mosaics and frescoes decorating cities
>Relative peace under the Pax Romana
>The birth of Philosophy, Mathematics and Physics
>Greco-Roman Mythology
>Holidays that atually meant something, like Saturnalia
>Persia was an actually interesting place
>Amazing wonders like the Library of Alexandria, the Lighthouse at Alexandria, the Mausoleum of Halicarnassus, the Colossus of Rhodes, The Temple of Zeus at Olympia and the Hanging Gardens of Babylon.
>Latin and Ancient Greek as the most spoken languages.
>The age of amazing military generals like Scipio Africanus, Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar
>North Africa was actually interesting with amazing cities like Memphis, Alexandria and Carthage
I want to live there so badly. It hurts, /his/. It hurts so much.
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"Classical" Antiquity is pleb tier.
Late Antiquity is the thinking man's periodisation.
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Although the time period is interesting. I doubt you'd want to live there as the overwhelming majority of people had terrible life condition. Very few were part of the upper echelon and most struggled on daily basis to simply survive.
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>>1747216
I think it was an amazing time, but I also think it has been romanticised to an incredible degree. Most lived in squalor, had terrible teeth conditions, low life expectancy etc.
Why do Christians, even in the modern day, despise pagans so much? I've taken an interest into Indo-European religion for a few years now, and while it is difficult to assemble a collection of practices, and beliefs due to the speculative nature of it all, I still try, and it still spiritually fulfills me.
Yet, even though we share with Christians a spiritual view on life, they spit at us and call us LARPers. Even though we share common ground in a world plagued by nihilism and materialism, they have no desire to find common roots or work together.
Is this just the true nature of the Christian? Are you simply unable to accept the others have different beliefs and practices?
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>>1745987
It's probably embarrassment, so much of christianity is so obviously based on pagan ideas that either they can accept this and suddenly they have no argument for why you should pick christianity over paganism, or they can stir themselves into a tizzy and hate on paganism as an overcompensation, kind of like how so many anti-faggot bigots turn out to be closet cases.
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>>1745987
Probably because the pagans treated Christians like shit (Romans were Pagans too) and created so many Christian martyrs that hating them became part of the religion. Also unless you seriously think worshipping a tree is a logical idea, you are LARPing being a pagan.
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Probably because pagans keep calling them quasi-Jews and cuckolds.
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Angels in Abrahamic Religions: Manifestations of Pagan inclinations
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I was reading Mark Twain's 'The Mysterious Stranger', and the ending dialogue in which the "angel" talks about the absurdity of God and creation of the angels got me thinking.
Why exactly do those of the Abrahamic religions believe God created the angels? I can see them being remnant of pagan tendencies born from traditional Semitic/Hebrew religion, when they were morphed from distinct deities into 'helpers' of Yawheh; furthermore, I can understand why they were venerated during the rise of Christianity, as they appealed to pagans who were used to their pantheons of gods and demi-gods and spirits and hero figures.
But in modern Christianity/Islam, why exactly is there a belief in angels? Being supposedly omnipotent and omniscient, there is no reason God would need 'attendants' or 'helpers', or that he would need or even desire 'company'; being supposedly perfect and all-knowing means the angels can't be a 'failed' creation, a previous creation attempt or template that came before humans.
In essence, Mark Twain's tirade is actually quite insightful: the existence of angels is extremely absurd. Religious believers can't even come up with a good reason for why a perfect, all-knowing and almighty, perfectly good and just entity would have created Men, and it's even harder to justify why this deity would create angelic beings.
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>>1752538
Angels exist as a go between from the world out of time, to the world within time.
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Fuck, don't remind me of that video. It's getting dark outside where I live.
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>>1752556
And god needs to relie on thoe because he cant do it himself?
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ITT: Autistic opinions you have about life and the world
I'll start:
>The reason so many people are unhappy is because we're no longer the builders of society, only the maintenance crew
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>>1745151
Constantinople is rightful greek clay
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Pawns can never become players
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>>1745151
A Transjordan State of Israel will be realized in the near future.
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Is imparting modern day morals on historic events wrong?
And by this I don't mean things like medical practices or using god as the explanation for everything because they honestly did not know better, they lacked enough informatiom to infer otherwise.
I'm talking about actions like Slavery or Genocide which were not as "in the grey" or missunderstood as things like medicine. They knew what they were doing. So is it still wrong to judge people who ordered these actions as "bad"? And if so why?
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It isn't, there is one objective morality. It doesn't changes with time, we just got better in understanding it with more experience as civilization.
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>>1750999
No we don't. We're sinners in the hands of an angry God and always have been.
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It's not terribly useful to "judge" historical figures at all, by any standard, if your goal is to learn about history.
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What is your opinion on the philosophy, Stoicism, /his/?
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I feel indifferent about stoicism as I feel indifferent about this thread, simply letting them be.
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>>1748465
> I don't know stoicism
Stoicism is nice because it helps you cope with stuff
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It's really cool. Check it out
I'm totally not Lucifer
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Trolley problem thread? Trolley problem thread.
Bonus marks if you actually discuss the killing vs. letting die debate
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Just roll the dice.
1: kill 5 persons
5-6: kill 1 person
That way everyone got a fair chance. All other solutions are biased, therefore unethical.
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If you don't know any person you can reduce grieving relatives/friends by killing the one person.
If you know them, it should be an entirely personal choice.
The killing vs. letting die argument is retarded because unlike the random deaths happening everywhere in the world at any moment, you have the power to decide the outcome of this situation.
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>>1746698
skilled artisans can manipulate physical chance tier outcomes
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Don't know where else to post this.
Do you think child molesters can be rehabilitated?
Should they just be executed?
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Sounds like a science question.
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>>1745642
yes. rehabilitation for everyone.
the death penalty is the most immoral and lazy way to deliver justice
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>>1745661
What if, in Scullys case for example, they've shown they don't give a fuck about prison and about rehabilitation?
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Does free will exist? Is existence itself predetermined?
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>>1742199
Pre determined most likely but that doesn't change anything, people are still going to go on not knowing what the future holds this question is only fun for a circle jerk but it serves no value since we can't see the future
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whether or not free will exists is irrelevant to a human's phenomenological perspective.
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>>1742218
It's kinda fucking me up though, I don't want to feel like a puppet who has no choice in the matter.
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>Uses "BCE"/"CE" to mark dates
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>>1741874
this
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>>1741874
I use BJH and AJH (JH stands for "Jewish Homosexual")
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>>1741883
how can jesus be a homosexual if he had a wife
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>Anon! wake up! You keep dreaming about the holy roman empire and shitty philosophers!
>We're about to take Moscow, are you in or not?
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"Clarify, Hans. Are we presently outside of Moscow, or are we on the way!"
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Moscow is a spook.
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Just because Moscow is, does not mean it ought to be taken
Praise skepticism