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Where the byzantines roman? Like obviously the were a direct continuity of political system stemming from rome but did they share the same values of true romans such as true romans like ceasar cicero or cato?
To me it seems all roman virtue exaporated from byzantum after justinian and belisarius died. What say the board?
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Efendi Murad I bin B (ID: !PASHA9LRl6)
2016-10-06 15:49:26
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They were corrupt greeks that had stolen roman lands from the true sons of Rome.
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The "Byzantines" you cite came over 500 years after the "Romans" you cite.
There is no point you can pick when the Byzantines ceased to be Roman, because it was a gradual process just like every culture. In the same way, you could ask the same about the French and the Franks. Clearly modern day French dont share the exact same values as their 9th century counterparts.
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>>1786875
they were an uninterrupted continuation of the Eastern Roman Empire, and thus they are the Roman Empire.
the stick up /his/'s asses is mostly related to the later Empire's conversion to Christianity and shifting of the cultural center to Greece, but 1000+ year state is naturally going to change with the times as well as the people within it. Whether it was under a Christian or Pagan Emperor, or whether in Greece or in Italy, it was still the Roman Empire, and its people held Roman citizenship.
as for "share the same values" in your post, cultural values change with time as well, but the Byzantine rule of law was virtually unchanged from that of the old Roman Code, just condensed and streamlined for more effective comprehension and faster processes of carrying out law.
in short, yes, the Byzantines were still the Eastern Roman Empire throughout, but the state changes over the course of 1000 years, much like how the England of 1200 is almost nothing like the England of today when it comes to values and cultures.
Is Donald Trump the modern plebiscite's attempt to elect a tribune? Or is this more of an attempted oligarchical takeover, like the tribunes accused Coriolanus of trying to do?
Basically, are working class whites plebs or are they patrician tier?
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While I personally would enjoy this topic, there is a 100% chance it will be a /pol/ shitpost fest, and also it is obviously breaking the 25 year rule.
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Efendi Murad I bin B (ID: !PASHA9LRl6)
2016-10-06 14:05:00
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neither.
It's the Spartacus slave revolt and Hillary Crassus is gonna put down the lot and crucify every single white male.
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>>>/pol/
MODS!
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Is there a period of time where a country has succesfully stopped inflation?
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>>1786499
Definitely not Nazi Germany, goyim.
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Stopping inflation isn't a good thing so no.
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>>1786518
How? Having a set standard is often the most stable.
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SEIZE THE SABINE WOMEN!
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>>1786465
Ughh, come here qt
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No tears shhhh
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>>1786472
Screaming won't un-rape you.
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Efendi Murad I bin B (ID: !PASHA9LRl6)
2016-10-06 13:53:11
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How degenerate.
If only islam existed back then to teach those filthy romans about the value of a woman.
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I have two questions.
First, why was Protestantism, historically, so very hateful of ritual and ceremony? I don't think there was ever a movement that was fundamentally against ritual and ceremony in the entirety of human history, prior to the Reformation. Even the bare bones left over, baptism and communion, seem to be chipped away at to be become as unceremonious as possible, using fast food communion in plastic packages, and things like that.
Second, why is secularism so poor as ritual and ceremony? I mean modern secularism. There are flags and anthems, but it's really very dry. Secularized holidays are so absolutely flat.
Note that this isn't intended to be some pro Catholic or Orthodox diatribe. Pagans had plenty of ceremony and ritual as well, but the Christians who destroyed these were not anti ceremony and ritual, period, they just were against pagan ceremony and ritual (and only that which was overt conflict with Christianity).
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>>1786125
Protestants think ritual is something da paganz do despite the fact that they have their own stupid shit like speaking in tongues and pretending to have seizures.
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>>1786148
The Old Testament is rife with ritual and ceremony.
Speaking in tongues is not really either, it's more verbal graffiti.
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>>1786125
>First, why was Protestantism, historically, so very hateful of ritual and ceremony?
It's a rationalist, modernist attack on spirituality that claims everything outside it is superstition and the work of Satan at the same time. No, I'm serious.
>Second, why is secularism so poor as ritual and ceremony?
Lack of Confucianism.
How will history look back on the death of the white race?
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They will rejoice as their world burns
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The 'white' race is a fucking meme
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this prediction assumes a comstant rate of growth, which wont happen.
what would le aztecs and incans look like today if they hadnt been fucked over by europeans
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>>1785913
there are still people in southern mexico who speak mayan languages and practice traditional beliefs, if we're going by that example then they would be living in an absolute shithole even by third world standards and have no motivation to improve their lot in life.
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Those people are from Mayan pockets that got started after the Mayan collapse and got relatively untouched by colonization.
That's a poor example since, as I said, they were like that from the already occurred collapse of Mayan civilization.
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The Emperor's New Groove
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Which Abrahamic character has the best arc/character development?
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Moses. Definitely the most "protagonist-like" of the Old Testament.
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>>1785797
Muhammad 2bh
Jesus was too much of a beta and a Mary Sue - his character also died before really having a chance to develop.
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>>1785797
I liked part 1, the sequels were shit
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Why were Spartans so shit at everything?
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Because they made slaves do all the work.
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Homosexuality is gay.
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>>1785807
I thought everyone had gay buttsecks back then. Were there any other ancient civilizations that did NOT specifically have gay buttsecks?
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Can the devil (the Christian understanding of the devil) create beauty? Or can evil create beauty? Or is beauty always equivalent to goodness?
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>>1785781
>Devil
>can create
No
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>>1785781
Satan cannot create. Only God can. Satan can only corrupt and mislead.
Beauty does not equal Goodness. The only thing that equates to goodness is Love and humility.
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He creates popstars so yes
Has art ever done anythin good for humanity or has it always been a pointless waste of time and resources?
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reducing all human activity to only how useful it is is a sign of autism OP.
I'm sorry you can't appreciate art and have autism OP.
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"good" is subjective or relative. your thread is juvenile garbage.
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>>1785683
You sound like an uncultured piece of trash.
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Did the Soviets advance Russia or did the captured Nazi scientists advanced Russia?
Would Tsarist Russia have advanced if they too had stolen German scientists?
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>>1785545
Most of the notable people in tsarist Russia were foreigners anyway.
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>>1785545
>did the captured Nazi scientists advanced Russia?
lolno
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>>1785545
Tsarist Russia literally had Germans working for them: Baltic German Elites mostly.
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Why didn't the cubans adopt a communist flag after their revolution? It seems like all the other gommie states did that.
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That Cuban flag was already the flag of the revolution against Spain.
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>>1785365
They were proud of their existing revolutionary tradition
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>It seems like all the other gommie states did that.
Not really, no.
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Which group of states, if severed from the Union would become the American version of the Balkans? Pic related
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>Implying they wouldn't just form "le risen again south"
I say the former Mexican territories, since there's no way California and Texas wouldn't pull in opposite directions.
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>>1785380
I think all the ethnic minorities down there with political power now would not want the risen again south. Also, assuming most of these places import most of their own food and power, they would quickly turn into shitholes and resort to infighting based on race and religious denomination really quickly.
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can u imagine the quality of life in the Mississippi river commune
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en differences between Orthodox and Catholicism.
1. Orthodox reject inheritability of sin. Death and suffering are human nature, we only don't suffer them when partaking in perfect synergism with God's energies, which we haven't since the fall.
2. The Orthodox reject the "satisfaction theory of atonement". The Orthodox subscribe to "Christus Victor" (the idea of atonement illustrated in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe).
3. Hell in Orthodoxy is not separation from God. Hell, like heaven, is experiencing the full radiance of God's light and presence, but with a negative relationship so that it is like fire.
4. The Orthodox reject the idea that our understanding of dogma develops. The idea is to keep the exact same understanding the Apostles have, invented terminology is not meant to develop the understanding, but to PROTECT it from being "developed".
5. Catholics define usury as excessive interest, Orthodox define usury as any interest.
6. The Orthodox reject the Catholic idea of supererogation.
7. The Orthodox reject Purgatory. The Orthodox do, however, distinguish Sheol (called "Hades" in Greek) from Gehenna.
8. Orthodoxy places enormous emphasis on fasting, in fact more than half the days of the year involve some sort of fast. And there are even some days which are total fasts, no intake, period. Two consistent fast days (almost every Wednesday and Friday, no meat, dairy, eggs, fish, oils or wine) trace back at least to the Didache.
9. Orthodox draw most of their priests from the married laity, but most of their bishops from monks.
10. Infants can and do receive Holy Communion.
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>>1785180
Orthodox hymns
Aramaic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nJP-4JzMhQ
Greek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE1FzSC8DBs
Spanish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc91xrGtaKo
Serbian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUCF4ZXpIuU
Bulgarian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wm4RlnnaOU
French: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI92g8JWwn8
Arabic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8r5r4R2yuE
English: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUjtgV6OPBM
German: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bYq1BqHURs
Chinese: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS1uf0oQCg4
Russian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQAgrCuKwPc
Romanian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-rgQve74BI
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>>1785180
>Orthodox reject inheritability of sin. Death and suffering are human nature, we only don't suffer them when partaking in perfect synergism with God's energies, which we haven't since the fall.
There isn't much of a distinction here, unless it would e possible for a human to be born without human nature. Otherwise, you're inheriting human nature from your parents both being human and having a human child.
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>>1785185
And the Orthodox believe Christ and Mary both had human nature.