Is wage labor a form of slavery? Did northern wage workers prior to the Civil War think of themselves as better or worse than slaves in the South?
Southerners tried to defend slavery by saying the lives of slaves were better than Northern factory workers.
>>1815856
Fitzhugh was woke.
>The Richmond publisher A. Morris printed Cannibals All! Or, Slaves without Masters in 1857. Endeavoring in the preface "to treat the subjects of Liberty and Slavery in a more rigidly analytical manner," George Fitzhugh charts productive classical and historical accounts of slavery and cites the Bible as evidence. Referencing the French proletariat, various Gypsy peoples, and the Irish peasantry as groups oppressed under capitalism, Fitzhugh likewise presents the poor working and factory class conditions in England as evidence that the southern institution of slavery, modeled after a pre-capitalist, feudal society, is economically justifiable. Furthermore, he argues capitalism, as practiced in Europe and the North, produces a form of moral cannibalism, replicating the master/slave dichotomy by turning capitalists (or the professional class) into masters and free laborers into exploited slaves. Within a capitalist society, the very labor and skill extracted in pursuit of profit enslaves these workers, leaving them far more disenfranchised than their slave counterparts. Specifying capitalism's many "evils," Fitzhugh notes that it encourages falsehood and hypocrisy, impedes scientific modifications of supply to meet demand, demeans labor's value and nobility, and results in the greater impoverishment of already poor peoples while augmenting the wealth of the affluent.
>According to Fitzhugh, under the humane code of southern paternalism in which masters labor on behalf of their enslaved workers, African American slaves—unlike those miserable participants in free labor's "White Slave Trade"—are happy and free. They enjoy those comforts and necessities granted them under a mutually beneficial, supportive system and community. To address the charge that slavery results in immorality, namely through illicit sexual liaisons, Fitzhugh suggests that contact between the ignorant and the more enlightened acts as a natural form of education.
Slavery has technical components:
1. No compensation for labor, or compensation at the arbitrary whim of the master
2. No freedom of transit
Wage labor has neither of these components. Now, there is such a thing as "wage slavery" of which there are generally 2 types.
1. Hard wage slavery, typical in the developing world, in which there is no freedom of transit. Employers will threaten and maim workers to keep them, and hire thugs or goons or local corrupt police to use force and violence to keep people.
2. "soft" wage slavery, typical in the developed world -- in which you are not forced to stay at one job, but the circumstances of your life and employment generally make transit impractical for you.
The extent to which the second one exists is debatable, but the first undoubtedly does.
Why did the scramble for Africa start so late? I find it strange that while the British and the Spanish were busy colonizing the Americas nobody got the idea to claim Africa.
What'd be the point of conquering them when African chiefs are already selling your slaves in droves, which at the time was the only raw material Europeans could foresee bein in Africa?
Meanwhile they knew about the gold and ore in the Americas.
Not to mention sub saharan Africa being a malaria-infested shithole. the Scramble for Africa started specifically BECAUSE of the effective treatment for malaria becoming available.
literally no point
for the longest time it was pointless shithole, like Antarctica today
Why do atheists one the one hand sy they dont believe in a god and a soul and an absolute free will but at the same time get angry when intent is given to processes or objects? I mean that if we are only materia, specifically, biological robots working according to certain rules, then intent is simply a choice for a stop point. anything can have intent including the wind blowing in your face as long as it is convinient to us.
>>1815727
because atheists aren't as smart as they think they are
>>1815727
Atheist didn't deny absolute free will. What does it even mean, my man.
What made the Great Depression so much worse than previous downturns?
>>1815677
The fact that the national unemployment rate actually was over 1/3rd of the working population, contrary to meme stats that claim the same is true today.
the president literally stopped giving a fuck for a while
The free market
What does /his/ think about Alexander Dugin's 4th Political Theory?
>In liberal ideology, the historical subject is the individual.
>The historical subject of the second political theory is class.
>the subject of the third political theory is either the
State (as in Italian Fascism) or race (as in German National Socialism).
The 4th Political Theory proposes to start from Heidegger's concept of Dasein in search of a new historical subject.
>>1815584
this doesn't make any sense and dugin is a shit
/thread
Dugin is meme tier, anon.
Dugin is a retard. Also a Russian. That makes him a double retard.
Why is the conquest of the New World justified?
>>1815558
>Why is the conquest of the New World justified?
Is this supposed to be an rp post where we pretend its the 1400's
Or did you mean was?
It "was" justified by the ideal that people were bringing civilization to savages, the reality was people needed living space and pushed out the natives while forcing some to integrate.
Justification to conquest is a spook, all it matter is power/will.
>>1815576
> power
> will
> not spooks
All hystorical events are resuls of the deterministic causal chains, anyway. If you are destined to be a conquered, you will suffer. End of the story.
What was the history of the subcontinent like? My knowledge of the area is sorely lacking.
The mother of all languages originated there
>all dose mountains
How did mongols get there again?
>>1815478
It's nothing more than an unending, continual steam of poo
Was it a thing?
I'm not religious but I don't think most stories just pop out of someone's head.
Theres always some kind of reference or inspiration that gives us clues to history
We're zigurretts still there when Abraham
proto human Homo ergasters speaking the archaic proton human language probably tried building a mud hut two stories tall and it caved in and legends about that one all the tribes came together to try and build some big building was preserved for generations via oral tradition
ez pz
It's the same story as Icarus. The Gods (in this case YHWH/Elohim) do not take hubris lightly. It doesn't need to be historical.
>>1815455
I don't think Biblical storied were universal. It was universal in the sense that it applied to the immidiate middle east. The great flood myth etc
Challenge: Find a more based people in history than the Normans. Descendants of Norwegian, Danish and Icelandic Vikings. Bloodline of powerful Viking leaders mixed with the Northern French. Quickly establish a most beautiful county yet a very brutal one as well. Once pagans now Christian, they conquer England and alter history for all time.
The Normans were pretty much French
>>1815418
From Anna Komnene's description the Franks and vikings were more like eachother than either were to the Normans ironically.
>>1815414
The Romans.
What would have happened if Germany hadn't invaded Belgium in 1914 and in doing so hadn't brought Britian into the Great War?
>>1815403
Britin would have used a different excuse
maybe if they had an actual navy it would have been a non-issue
>>1815423
This
Historically, what conditions are socially conducive to revolution?
What helps a revolution emerge and what helps a revolution succeed?
famine
currently, why does /leftypol/ make stealth communism threads in groups of three or four at the same time? do they organize in irc or something?
The true revolutionary class is the middle class, not the proletariat.
The Marxist wrote so much about revolution that it is really amazing how the could have missed it. How much SELF awareness they lacked. Every Marxist leader from Marx to Lenin to Che to the so called-socialist and liberal politicians today is middle class. Every Bernie supporter is white middle class (and no, because you work part-time at start while studying at the uni and living in a rented apartment with daddy's money doesn't make you working class).
The disenfranchised middle class with it's education and ambition, and the system's failure to give these ambitious middle class individuals the place they think they deserve in the system that truly births a revolutionary. The proletariat will be lead.
Lenin hinted at it in the book What is to be Done? The proletariat by themselves will never be revolutionary. They need "socialist intellectuals" to "inseminate" them with socialist ideas. And yet he wasn't aware enough or probably honest enough to downright say the truth: Marx was wrong; we the middle class are the revolutionaries; the proletariat are useful cannon fodder that we will try to manipulate, and yet as soon as we achieve political power we will criminalize trade unions and workers' activities (which they did).
What helps the revolution succeed is to fool the workers and give them welfare.
From a Marxist standpoint, what is post-scarcity?
when you have a lot of something, but it's still finite.
think about how you can buy a 20 pound bag of race for $5.
kind of like that.
I think.
Probably wouldn't like it since its based on raping resources.
When a good is plentiful enough to easily meet people's needs, and scarcity does not determine how a good is distributed, and scarcity does not determine prices.
It's like how there's a flat rate at an all you can eat buffet, or how you can stream as much or as little as you want from Netflix. The price has no relation to the amount of the good you actually consume. You simply collectively pay into the system enough to make it work, and take as much as you care to consume.
how and why did they get replaced by germans?
there was a mass exodus to Africa, it's why Africa is full of black people today
i hate this meme
>>1815381
you love it
Is the ability to make another suffer but choosing not to the ultimate power?
nah, thats just being a pussy
>>1815316
That's the ultimate weakness tho.
>decisions are as simple as choosing not to punch someone in the face when you walk by them
Why did jesus have to die horribly? I don't get it.
>>1815295
Never heard of blood magic before?
>>1815299
isn't that what magic johnson has?
>>1815295
Because Yahweh is a loving and graceful god who requires blood sacrifice to satiate his divine wrath.