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What was his endgame?
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>>1927256
To serve his Fuhrer

Boring af individual tbph
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>>1927262

Was getting caught part of his plan?
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>>1927274
Presumably

Although he probably didn't want to be imprisoned

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Was it good idea? I mean thousands years after Treaty of Verdun was signed, billions died in the Battle of Verdun because of how cancerous it is.
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>>1927157
Billions died in the Battle of Verdun because French are clay thieves.
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>>1927164
>thieves

that's called right of conquest, no such thing as clay thieves
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>>1927157
Fixed

Imagine that Russia stayed neutral. Can Entente won this with just France and Britain?
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Britain was fucked the moment axis started using submarines. They lucked out with american help
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>>1927040
>axis
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>Russia states it's complete neutrality after the Austro-Hungarian ultimatum to Serbia
>The war quickly ends after Austria-Hungary and Germany destroy Serbia with little outside opposition
>France is never invaded, Germany did not invade them as they did not fear being attacked from both France and Russia after Russia declared Neutrality.
>WW1 never happens

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Thread about the best art in the world.
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>>1926887
Same theme, Caravaggio
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Daily reminder that "Great" Britain gave Hong Kong back to China like a little bitch.

> The Foreign Office proposed a counter-strategy founded upon a distinction between 'sovereignty' and 'administration'. It suggested that Thatcher aim to reach an agreement with China whereby Britain would cede a titular sovereignty over Hong Kong to Peking, in exchange for Peking's formal agreement **to allow British administration to remain in place in Hong Kong beyond 1997.** Thatcher eventually digested the proposal in principle **more easily** than the Foreign Office had feared

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/how-mrs-thatcher-lost-hong-kong-ten-years-ago-fired-up-by-her-triumph-in-the-falklands-war-margaret-thatcher-flew-to-peking-for-a-lastditch-attempt-to-keep-hong-kong-under-british-rule--only-to-meet-her-match-in-deng-xiaoping-two-years-later-she-signed-the-agreement-handing-the-territory-to-china-1543375.html

> Thatcher later said that Deng told her bluntly that China could easily take Hong Kong by force, stating that "I could walk in and take the whole lot this afternoon"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_of_sovereignty_over_Hong_Kong#Talks

> Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping tells her that sovereignty is not negotiable and China will take back Hong Kong on its own terms in 1997 no matter whether UK agrees or not.

> Mrs Thatcher falls off steps after talks with Chinese leader on Hong Kong issue

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ecd_1365482566
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>>1926760

> Tired of the lack of progress in negotiations, Patten passed his reforms in the legislative council in June 1994. The Chinese promptly terminated negotiations, claiming the British had broken their agreements. Beijing began to act unilaterally to create a post-1997 government, locking the British out of Hong Kong’s future. As soon as Hong Kong passed to their control, the CCP would dismantle Patten’s changes. They created a provisional legislative council, which included 33 members of the existing council, but selected members who were friendly to them.

http://www.historytoday.com/thomas-benge/did-britain-fail-hong-kong

> Thatcher tried to hold the line with Deng, insisting that any unilateral action by China to assume control over Hong Kong would be in violation of international treaty. But in the end, the diminutive Chinese ruler got what he wanted, and on a rainy July night in 1997, Thatcher was present for the formal transfer of sovereignty to the People's Republic.

> Towards the end of her life, Thatcher expressed regret about how things turned out in Hong Kong, telling the Daily Telegraph that she felt "sad" and "disappointed" in regards to the handover. In truth, though, there was little Thatcher could do: The emotional appeal of Hong Kong to the Chinese public -- as well as the leadership -- was simply too strong.

http://www.theatlantic.com/china/archive/2013/04/when-margaret-thatcher-came-to-china/274796/

And that kids is how you kow tow
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This thread again. Really, what were the British supposed to do, try and keep Hong Kong without the New Territories or go to war over them? This fixation of yours is baffling.
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>>1926767
Im not really sure why youre expecting a reply from a copy pasta.

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My friend asked me why we have to pick ancient historians apart and criticise everything they write. She asked, "Why can't we just give them the benefit of the doubt?".

Well, why can't we?
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We do, unless there is good reason to do otherwise.
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Aliens built the great pyramids. I'm a historian so its true.
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>Pompey got rid of literally every single pirate in the Mediterranean
Totally plausible

>Timur the Lame built pyramids out of the skulls of his victims which were so massive they were confused for hills when seen from a distance
Could have happened

>Nero had feasts where the dining room was illuminated by Christians burning to death
What's wrong with that/

>This one Empress back in the early middle ages was kind of a slut
LITERALLY FANFICTION 2016 BELIEVING PROCOPIUS WOW ANON HOW CAN YOU FALL FOR SUCH OBVIOUS BAIT?

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Does it make me think?
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what is it
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>AS THE STARS REVOLVE AROUND THE NORTH, AND THE NORTH DIRECTS THE STARS, AND ALL MOVES IN STASIS, THE EXTERNAL COMPRISES THE INTERNAL, AND THE INTERNAL AFFECTS THE EXTERNAL, AND THE TOTAL FLUCTUATES STABILELY —THE OTHER FOR THE SELF, AND THE SELF TOWARD THE OTHER, AND CONSCIOUSNESS BECOMES ITSELF.

>IMMORTALITY IS NOT PERPETUATION OF MORTAL LIFE, BUT THE CONDITION AND QUALITY OF IMPERISHABLE LIFE.

>THE HEROES OF THIS NEW AGE ARE CURRENTLY ALIVE; THEY ARE POPULARLY REFERRED TO AS "MILLENNIALS" —AN APPROPRIATE TERM FOR THOSE REFERRED TO AS THE "HERO" GENERATION OF THE CURRENT GENERATIONAL CYCLE, ACCORDING TO GENERATIONAL THEORY, BECAUSE THE NEW HEROIC ERA WILL CONSTITUTE THE PRIMER FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE WORLD MILLENNIUM.

Neat.
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no, it is loaded with superstition and fallacies and only appeals to people with a damaged hippocampus who have difficulty discerning how relevant things are

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future
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thank i'll be dead by then
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You're probably going to die in less than a century and you're bothered by shit that's going to happen in millions or billions of years?
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>>1926518
You had billions of years before you even existed. You will have trillions, maybe quadrillions, maybe even a number so great it can't be described, after your death. There's a potential infinity years after you die. Maybe, since it only took you a few billion years to be born, you might be born again.

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The middle east was extremely peaceful and stable before colonialism.
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>>1926307
...continue.
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Does the Ottoman empire not count as colonialism?
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>>1926307
What a stupid picture. Ebert was part of the revolution and Liebknecht wasn't even a Jew.

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Who is you're favorite academic or historian?

Pic related. This guy probably wrote the most incisive history of western civilization ever.

http://www.balderexlibris.com/index.php?post/Jones-Eugene-Michael-The-Jewish-Revolutionary-Spirit-and-Its-Impact-on-World-History
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John Green.
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This book has completely changed the way I view history.

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> Movie takes place in """"Dark Ages"""""
> All characters speak in modern english and not middle english
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>>1925968
Literally nobody important spoke middle English
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>>1925968
How autistic are you?
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>Movie takes place in """"Dark Ages"""""
>All characters speak in middle english and not middle english
>Cant understand shit

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We all know Alexander and his legendary conquest from Greece to Bactria but what of the claim that he was the only great man of history. After all, who were Napoleon and Julius Caesar but followers trying to achieve only a fraction of the glory of the king of the world?

Have there been any truly great men? Will there ever be another in our time? Discuss
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Some men may be considered greater than others, but true greatness has not and will never be achieved. All accomplishments will eventually be forgotten.
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Who is Attila the Hun and The Mongals.
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>>1925959
sad to think about but true

Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:

And on the pedestal these words appear:
'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

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Was being a white college student in 1991 in the USA the apex of all human experience?
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>>1925876
Would bang 10/10.
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>>1925876
bump
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>>1925876
Ay yo semen demon status. Who is this?

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Name a greater leader.
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>>1925787

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ITT we talk about the Greco-Turkish War (1919–22)

This war happened apparently, pretty bloody with about half a million dead, what do you think of this war /his/?
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>>1925719
Bumping because I'm curious as well
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>>1925719
They were tired of British chemical warfare in WW1.
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>>1926481
>chemical warfare
Do you mean bug spray?

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