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>“Many accounts of Japanese growth attribute it mainly to special characteristics of the Japanese culture or people. The Japanese were not, however, always considered economic supermen. Western visitors in the mid-nineteenth century were often struck with the utter poverty of the people and even with the number of families that were reduced to infanticide. Although the rate of literacy was quite high by the standards of poor societies at that time, and the society had been progressing in certain respects,13 it was pathetically weak both technologically and militarily and subject to humiliation by even the most casual efforts of Western navies. In those days the conventional wisdom among Western observers was far different than it is today, with some alleging that Japanese character or culture was intrinsically incapable of economic development.

Excerpt From: Olson, Mancur. “The Rise and Decline of Nations: Economic Growth, Stagflation, and Social Rigidities.”

Why do people argue ex post facto?

I've heard a lot of these cultural arguments, but Japan and China were considered not cuturaly unlikely to industrialize throughout the 20th century, while Germany was thought of as a basket case even in the 18th century.

Why do extenstions of current trends turn out so wrong, and why do people act so like the present is infallible?
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>>1976428
What are you even asking?
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>>1977441
probably about people projecting their cultural penis stroking onto economic growth.

See China in the current year.
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>>1976428
>>1977441
>>1977441
Um he's obviously asking why people think they can predict the future

Is a mind/body duality necessary?
Even sensible?
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I don't know.
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>>1976229
this should be on /sci/ and the answer is no
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>>1976229
Thats not the duality

fucking retard

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Post your historyfu, /his/fags.
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>not having a literal goddess as your /his/fu
Having a person that actually existed as your /his/fu is like fapping to 3DPD instead of 2Delicious: plebeian.

Top-tier waifu material:

Pallas Athena/Minerva (goddess of wisdom, with war tinge)
Astarte (usually goddess of fertility/sexuality/war)
Hebe/Juventus (goddess of youth)
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I am genuinely in love with Anne Frank. She was beautiful, witty, and graceful young woman whose light was snuffed out far too early.

I frequently fantasize about being Peter van Pels hiding with her.

Oh god, just imagine deflowering that sweet girl on a lazy Amsterdam afternoon, lying and learn what each other's bodies were for.

Now imagine nine months later, she's got a massive bulging stomach from carrying your child inside of her and it seems like she’s gonna pop any moment now. Her popped belly button makes it look like she's got a giant third boob where her stomach once was. She waddles around and can barely move half of the time. She's developed an insatiable craving for your dick and you've likewise developed a taste for her pussy. You’re both cooped up in an attic all day have nothing better to do besides fuck like an unsustainable third world population. You lie down on your back, she strips off her almost comically too small clothes and kneels on top of you. She grabs a hold of your rock hard cock, inserts it deep inside of her, and begins to ride you like a stallion. You feel the pressure from her incredible weight and huge round belly bearing down on you but the indescribable pleasure of her tight pussy throbbing on you cock negates any discomfort. You sink into her beautiful soul, into that secret place where no one dares to go. After 30 minutes, you and her are both moaning with ever greater intensity, you know it won't be long now. Suddenly, you feel your cock shaking like a V-2 rocket and the orgasm reaches it's climax as your cum literally explodes like an 88mm AT round inside her Sherman tank, blowing the turret right off. You and her both join as one, souls screaming from the sheer ecstasy. As the elation wears off, she lies next to you. Too exhausted to do anything else, you simply hold her in your embrace. In that moment, there is no family squabbles, no Nazis, no war. Just you and her, watching the sky turn pink with the setting sun.
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>>1970399

You dream of the beautiful face you have found in this place. So soft and sweet.

One day you will both die and your ashes will fly from an aeroplane over the sea.
But for now you are young and all you want is lay in the sun, and count every beautiful thing you can see. Love to be in the arms of all you’re keeping here with you.

What a beautiful dream that could flash on the screen in a blink of an eye

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What did they mean by this?
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>>1981048
I am going assume that they meant that we may never know the origin of the universe and our place here, and we would need to create something that everyone could look up to.
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it means people are stupid cavemen and if you want them to pay attention to you when you say killing your neighbor over a head of lettuce or fucking your four year old daughter is bad you have to dress it up in spooky mysticism about an all seeing sky father that will reward you after you die for being a gud boi
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>>1981048
You've no idea how many people would go on a murder spree and do whatever they want if someone didn't trick them into there being no way to escape punishment if they did.

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Are NEETs like the knights errant or ronin samurai of the modern world? Forging our own path regardless of societal rules or expectations?
Or are we like greek philosophers, well-trained in both body and spirit? Constantly seeking stimulation through debate and working out?
Or perhaps we are like the great prophets of the world, Zarathustra, Jesus, Muhammad (pbuh), Confucius or Zevi? Forging paths beyond mindless materialism into a life-affirming spiritual thought?

Who would you say are the NEETs of history?
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>>1980543
They don't make into history. Those philosophers and prophets were all essentially politicians. Your outlaws worked oddjobs, often did merc work, otherwise they would starve.
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>>1980551
fpbp
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>>1980543
>Muhammad
>Forging paths beyond mindless materialism
Half the Koran is him conquering other tribes and stealing their shit. He was just a successful warlord with a good PR department

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre

Amerisharts will defend this
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No, mostly
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It was an atrocity and the fact that those men got away with it is a stain upon our military heritage.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_at_Hu%E1%BA%BF

Commies will defend this.

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A strict social hierarchy is need for the nation's stability.
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>>1980145
A flexible social hierarchy is needed for the nation's adaptability.
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>>1980145
A moderate social hierarchy is needed for the nation's adaptability.
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>>1980162
>>1980145
>hierarchy

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Were the French Ottomanboos?
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>>1980048
They are now. French women love Muslim cock.
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>>1980226
Sure m8

This is why France is the only european country where the veil is banned, and is the country who banned it. You, anglocucks, suck them dry we saw it when the burkinigate happened.
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>>1980247
>and is the country who banned it
and was the first country to ban it*

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Could the Thirteen Colonies have overcome the United Kingdom if the didn't receive Spanish or French aid?
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>>1979814
Absolutely not. The French funding the Americans, as well as providing all the naval cockblocking from Spain, was pretty key.
Maybe if the Americans had have rebelled decades later with a larger population which had cash crops, as well as funds from said cash crops, then perhaps. And, even then, there would still have been internal difficulties such as overcoming the Loyalists.
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If you count the war France was having with Britain at the time as aid, yeah, theyd have been zerg rushed by British soldiers pretty easily.
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>>1979814
Probably not.

If the British were able to efficiently send reinforcements and supplies from the mainland without also being focused on continental opposition it would have been a significantly harder war for the colonists.

This is the case for basically every revolution and war of independence. 9/10 they succeed whenever the overlord is fighting someone else at the same time.

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Why the Reformation is viewed so positively?

The more I read about it, the less appealing in looks. While in the beginning it was a legitimate protest against abuses by the Catholic church (which sometimes against the will of Catholic establishment), it quickly degenerated into something ugly. The Protestants turned out to be far less tolerant and far more aggressive than the Catholics ever were.
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>>1979804
>burn heretics
>still be more tolerant than those who deport heretics according to an anon on 4chan
>mfw
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>>1979809
>>burn heretics

You mean like Servet who got burned by Calvin and his flock?
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>>1979816
Calvinists are ISIS-tier. Meanwhile Spanish basically attempted genocide.

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Do you know what's on the picrel? That's right, it's a picture of Jesus. During the Shogunate, Jap officials made peasants step on such pictures (called "fumi-e") to prove that they are not Christians. Whoever didn't consent to trample our Lord's image would be taken to Nagasaki prison for tortures, or burnt alive on the spot.
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>>1979788
Could we do something like this with the symbol of Allah?
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>>1979788
seems pretty mild compared to pic related
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>>1979788
I wonder how this actually worked. It isn't a sin to step on an image of Christ, it's certainly disrespectful, but to act as if a material depiction of Jesus is somehow divine is idolatrous. It really is just a hunk of metal.

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Prove that a human's worth is not directly related to how much money they have. Protip: You can't
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>>1979743
why do you not factor in sex appeal?
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>>1979743
This is a setup for a pun on a human's "worth" isn't it?
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Lotta spooks ITT

What was the point of Vichy France?
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keep french happy, reduce resistance and lower administration clutter

they used the shitty south though so they still controlled the important parts

ps
petain did nothing wrong, he was a realistic but patriotic man
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>>1979747
you might disagree if you were a jewish frenchman
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>>1979729
To create a Fascist French rump state that was theoretically independent and sovereign, thus theoretically continuing to control the French colonial empire. See, if Germany had destroyed France outright it's likely that North Africa, the Levant, etc, would have gone straight over to the Free French. This also allowed the Germans to avoid having to manage the occupation of France, since that could just be offloaded onto the Vichy government.

I'm not aware of what the German post-war plans were for France. Presumably they'd loose all German claims and would become a defanged puppet state with a military only large enough to manage it's remaining colonies.

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so when is the contrarian /int/-tier anglo hate and franco love on this board gonna wear off?
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>>1979637
t. Daily Mail subscriber
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>>1979637

As soon as the /int/ crowd leaves. So probably never.
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>>1979637
>franco love
?

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Please help me evaluate the accuracy of these claims that Jesus existed from "non-Christian" sources.
http://www.bethinking.org/jesus/ancient-evidence-for-jesus-from-non-christian-sources
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The Tacitus source does not particularly prove the existence of a historical Jesus: it merely mentions that there were people in the city of Rome at the time who believed in a person called Chrestos. The same applies to Pliny the Younger: he merely reports the presence of a group who who believe in some deity called Christ.

The academic consensus concerning Josephus' Testimonium Flavianum passage is that the thing is an interpolation, an edit made by a later scribe. The phrases used to describe Christ are atypical of a Jew or pagan of the time, and correspond to much later Christological developments. Also, the passage does not match Josephus' earlier tone or even choice of words; the passage stands out as different, when compared to the rest of the work. A forgery, in other words.
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>people who witnessed Christ's greatness firsthand are not a valid historical source
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>>1979644
>be leftist "historian"
>don't like something someone wrote
>just say "this doesn't sound like that guy" and discard it

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