What are the best philosophical / religious arguments on supporting death penalty?
>>2087656
For society, effectively murdering dangerous criminals, is, for all terms and purposes, cheap.
That is, if you take ethics our of the picture, but frankly, the fact that society will make mistakes, and murder innocents, is made to be a bigger issue than it is.
>>2087656
That the failure to execute a criminal only results in:
>the victims never fully getting closure
>The endangerment of all other inmates assuming the individual is guilty of a sex offense or violence
>The moral wrong of forcing tax payers to pay for someone who is actively harming society
>The lazy intellectualism that makes weak hearted 1st worlders to equate execution with murder.
>The long cruelty of making an inmate wait for death through natural means rather than swiftly and painlessly ending it.
>The societal ill that weak repercussions for crime result in more crime in said civilization
and those are just the ones off of my head
>Inb4 "Heuhheuh death penalty costs too much" fuck off economic need spurs invention and innovation - there are cheaper and more humane methods to end human life and we would find them.
>>2087709
It's not killing people that's expensive, it's t he appeals and judicial process for death row that's expensive.
>tfw no cute Ancient Greek bf
>>2087631
The greeks fucked little boys, not 30+ year old men like yourself, OP
>tfw no ambiguously gay etruscan lads prancing about your triclinium
Did the Romans think the Greeks were degenerates?
What do you know about Oriental Orthodoxy, /his/?
>>2087514
asiatic orthodox church when?
I regularly attended one in 1998 and 2004.
>>2087514
They seem to have a thing for getting genocided/persecuted.
Have muslims ever become a plurality of an outside territory and not try to establish Islamic law? And what have their attempts been met with besides civil wars?
There are these guys.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyula_people#Suwarian_Tradition
Exactly how many countries today do you think have "Islamic law"?
>>2088224
Germany, France, England - and all the other Islamic countries.
What would happen if Australia became communist during the 1930s? pic unrelated.
>>2087401
Weren't they still a penal colony then?
The Pacific theater is a huge pain in the ass.
Western Pacific becomes a pain in the ass for the US to hold onto.
By the 1950s, Australia is nearly as oppressive as they are today.
>>2087560
No?
Australia got independence in 1901 and stopped receiving convict settlers in 1868. Not to mention it wasn't solely a penal colony to begin with, some Australian colonies never received convicts from Britain.
What would the world look like today if America had been able to successfully invade Canada in the War of 1812?
>>2087398
The US would be slightly bigger and way more of it would be barren wasteland.
Also Quebecois wouldn't exist, they'd be assimilated like Cajuns were
>>2087398
We would've been powerful enough to win WW2
>>2087418
didn't we win already tho
Christianity is Judaism for the goyim. Judaism is a branch of Zoroastrianism. Semitic religions are the only religions to have a ruling creator that engulfs matter and idea. As for Germanic and Mediterranean religions, they picture the gods as human values that reign over the metaphysical self and manifest themselves in humans as emotions do. But none of the Germanic nor Mediterranean religions hold a creator as a ruler nor the ruler as a creator. Just let that sink in.
>>2087116
You could have just said PIE religion
Or maybe the Jews met a man who could perform miracles and had the arduous task of starting a new religion.
>>2087116
zoroastrianism is not a "semitic religion" and semitic is a linguistic term not a cultural one
so is love just a chemical reaction in the brain that identifies an ideal mate? is that all to it?
No I think it's a chemical reaction in the brain that tells you to stick with a partner and not abandon your kids.
Looking at the Middle-East and Africa post colonialism/WW1 ...
...How is multiculturalism NOT a failure?
>How is multiculturalism NOT a failure?
Because they removed white people from power.
they didnt have enough liberal intelligentsia preaching its true value
>>2087057
>this is what /pol/ actually believes
Redpill me on the lack of any substantial Western Orthodox tradition.
I know it exists in some capacity, but I fail to see why it hasn't spread more, given the amount of people that seem to be interested in converting to it.
There seems to be an interesting mix of different rites across the Western churches (e.g. Sarum, Liturgy of St. John the Divine, etc), it'd be nice to see some kind of coherence to it though
where is constie?
>>2086957
I'm surprised Orthodoxy isn't growing at a higher rate among western Christians.
Catholics are unhappy with Vaticain II and still dislike prots? Orthodoxy is here for you.
Want a more masculine, traditionalist take on Christianity that doesn't reject modern science and considers science and faith to have a rational marriage? Orthodoxy.
So many people don't know it exists or don't think about it when its perfect for today's culture.
>>2086988
>that doesn't reject modern science and considers science and faith to have a rational marriage?
Catholicism has this too tbf
Why is Ethiopia the only black country that did something?
>>2086955
because it has the best land
made the leap from tribe to national state to empire, built a national culture based on christian religion, had multiple contacts with other civilizations
Cause they weren't fully "black" since they had alot of semitic ties.
Why is relativism the most meaningless concept of all times ?
> everything is art it's all about your taste
> everything can be right or wrong
> everything is just a matter of point of view
Accurate reflection of a meaningless universe.
Relativism has a lot of merits, especially in its willingness to explore the grey area. By itself, it's not so great, but you can only become a great thinker if you open your mind to differing viewpoints like a relativist would, and not only listen but seek to understand why someone would take a certain position.
>>2086980
Not being relativist doesn't mean being close-minded
Stop backing your promissory notes with gold
But I don't.
Wait, if they aren't considered a promise of gold or something else precious, what are they a promise of? I'd assume labour-time, which makes the Bakunin in my brain raise an eyebrow.
>>2086850
i say let's make "work" our currency
I heard from a History Channel TV show that for most western civilians of the 18th Century, the firearm was the preferred self defense weapon. As it took less training than, say, a sword and was easy to use.
But seeing as this is a flintlock muzzle loader, wouldnt that be a shitty hindrance to self defence?
>wouldnt that be a shitty hindrance to self defence
It's still better than literally everything else available at the time.
>>2086803
>As it took less training than, say, a sword and was easy to use.
Maybe in fucking America, but in Western Europe, fencing schools literally became super fucking popular in the 18th century as the middle class increased in the continent and some gentlemen found the time to practice swordsmanship.
It was too fucking common that the smallsword became a popular fashion piece.
>>2086803
no.
not everyone was zorro when it came to sword fighting
>D-day - a battle where germans were shooting fish in a barrel: 10k losses
>A random battle in barbarossa: 700k losses
What on earth were the russians doing? How did they lose so much? Any documentaries or footage of this?
>"fish in a barrel"
Except for the near zero air superiority and the massive airborne landings behind the lines and the heavy use of inferior Ost-legions and conscripted fanatics
>>2086764
No one was encircled on the Day landings, and the Allies had overwhelming fire superiority then on top of outnumber in the Germans 3:1.
>>2086764
>He who defends everything defends nothing.