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Are there any documented historical examples of a woman laying down on the exact border line between two jurisdictions (two towns, two provinces, two countries etc), and giving birth right there, with the physical effect that the baby can honestly be said to have been born in both jurisdictions at the same time?
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>>2127365
no
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>>2127365
you do realize birth is more than just a woman sitting down and popping the baby out of her vagoo?

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Hello /his/
I bought these pic related hindu statuettes for some friends. Kind of like a joke because of the kitschness, but really I'd feel dumb just giving them away without even knowing the first thing about what they are in their culture.
I tried looking it up, but really, this stuff is dense and I'm not sure about any aside from Ganesh.
Could someone help me out identifying these divine persons and get some education?

Cheers
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bump is ok, yes?
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>>2127151
Top left is hanuman, top right I'd guess manu but it could be something like varuna. Bottom left is to generic to guess, is she holding anything?
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>>2127151
Hanuman, Ganesh, Krishna, ????

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French guy here, I'd like to ask about memorial laws. In my country it is forbidden by law to deny the holocaust, you can face charges if you do. The purpose of this law is to keep us from forgetting the event of the past and doing the same mistakes again. Of course we know that holocaust happened, but this implies that on some topics, the historical truth is defined by the government and the law, not by the historians. Which is a dangerous path, in my opinion.
What are your thought on this ? Do you think this kind of law is against freedom of speech and historical research ? Are there any similar law in your country ?
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>>2112853
Typically those laws have a phrase like "grossly belittling" coded into them. That's an important qualifier.
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>>2113004
>Explain to me how to gas 6 million jews in rooms with windows and wooden doors.

By placing money coins on the floor to keep them busy during the gassing thus preventing evasion

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The American left and right seem to have been downgraded to caricatures of themselves, but what both sides have in common is an utter disdain towards even the most benign form of interventionism.

If you were to draw up a list of circumstances in which the American public deems military intervention in relation to Russia appropriate, the undeniable threat that Russia poses to Baltic/Balkanic/Eastern European countries would certainly be towards the bottom of the list.

I am not downplaying the crimes against humanity committed by the US against South American and Middle Eastern states, but a balanced historical perspective sheds light on the fact that America's benign hegemony over the world prevented wars in the Western world over the past 7 decades. Sure, compromises were made, conflicts of interest caused atrocities, but I can't imagine a better world in the absence of the American superpower.

Does the current disinterest of the meme left and the meme right towards any form of political interventionism worry you? Do you think this might be a threat to Western values and peace given the opportunities it creates for Russian influence?
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Neocon please go
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>>2112796
This thread belongs on /pol/, not on /his/.
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>>2112796
>I am not downplaying the crimes against humanity committed by the US against South American and Middle Eastern states

What crimes against humanity?

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What does /his/ think of this true Irish man?
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He's cool and stuff, told UK to stop being meanies, too bad he got shot by other irish men in the civil war
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>>2126994
he was a big fella
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Traitor br*t slave

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Can anyone recommend good books for a history pleb? I've taken a keen interest in politics and history recently but am struggling to find a good starting point. I'd like to begin as early as possible.
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>>2126885
>I'd like to begin as early as possible.
Like the Greeks? Mesopotamians?
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"the history of all hitherto existing societies has been the history of manlet struggles"

Check out work by Elliot Rodger he has a keen analytical mind.
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One of the first things to understand about historiography is that because there's so, so much history, basically every historian is incredibly specialised and is an expert in one specific facet if one specific civilization at one specific time period.

What are you interested in?

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Is it possible to study for a history degree, online, for free?
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>>2126804
It depends, do you want a piece of paper at the end? If yes, than probably not.
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>>2126809
Preferably, but not necessarily. I'd be happy to pay for the certificate at the end, provided the fee isn't ridiculous.
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>>2126818
Not 100% sure about this link -
http://proxypiratebay.xyz/torrent/10375085/_The_Great_Courses_-_The_Teaching_Company_Megapack_280_Courses

Try and find a legit torrent for that. You obviously won't get a piece of paper for this, but it is the best torrent in the world, not even joking. Each course is a university level course which usually costs upwards of 900 dollars, each course comes with a pdf study guide with questions and what not.

https://www.edx.org

^ lot's of free and pay courses online from some of the top universities in the world, MIT, Harvard, Berkely. Some you have to pay for but are very, very reasonable ($50 per course and you get a piece of paper, how reliable that piece of paper is though is up for debate). Is a great website regardless.

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>yfw you realize we're living in a post-truth society that's way beyond the kind of hyper-reality Baudrillard talked about and there's nothing stopping the meme train
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>>2112693
We're living in a post-ironic Matrix. But everyone knows it's the matrix, figuratively, and on top of that a lot of popsci enthusiasts unironically believe that the actual physical world is a literal matrix.
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>>2112693
>mfw a see someone saying "post-anything" in a history board.
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bye rddit

Gday /his/, so a friend of mine gave me Alain de Bottons "Consolations of Philosophy".
It was an extremely intestine read not so much for the consolations it gave but because it was my first insight into any philosophical thought and it has made me want read further, but where do I begin?

Can I jump into the deep end of the great classical Greeks?
Is that even the deep end?
Should I read something similiar to Consolations where an author uses multiple philosphers?

I would prefer to start with a classical Greek.
Plato kinda comes off like a fag whilst Socrates and Aristotle seem based but I really don't know enough to have my opinion be valid.

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does this have anything to do with Boethius' The Consolation of Philosophy?
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>>2112649
It's not mentioned in the book, no.

It seems like an interesting read however
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>>2112628
Try Sir Anthony Kenny's history of philosophy. Nice and comprehensive. Don't fall for the Russel meme.

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Defend inheritance tax
protip: you can't
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>>2126800

t. Barron Trump
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Defend value added tax.
It arguably hurts everyone, especially the poor.
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One time in NationStates, I had a prompt to remove inheritance tax and I decided to go for it.

The next day, I got a message that the government had collapsed and the parliament was being assaulted by motorcycle gangs.

It turns out that inheritance tax was literally the only tax I hadn't eliminated, and cutting it was the final straw that pushed the country into anarchy.

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>Hindenburg often stated that he would never appoint Hitler as chancellor under any circumstances.
lol
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I don't know what to think, on the one hand he died and never had to see that man fuck up Germany, but on the other hand he died and left the door open for gitler to further his own ends at power
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>>2112099
Considering how often people got in hitler's way and how many that tried to kill him and him always getting out on top, it is a miracle he even got as far as he did. Like the universe wanted him there or something
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>>2112099
>implying

Hindenburg would have loved the amazing things Hitler did. You are forgetting that the conservatives in the Reichstag were staunchly allied with Hitler and supported his Enabling Act which made Hitler a dictator, and Hindenburg himself made the Reichstag Fire Decree.

Ludendorff himself was an ally of Hitler in the 1920's and was part of the Beer Hall Putsch attempted, although he later went pscyho in the 1930s before he died.

Kaiser Wilhelm II sent Hitler a congratulations in 1940 after Hitler conquered France.

The policy of German conservatives and elite prussians was no different to that of Hitler's. Hindenburg supported the acquisition of eastern territories by war and colonising them with Germans, which was Hitlers goal. In fact this is what Hindenburg had tried to do in the first world war.

Hindenburg would have supported Hitler all the way.

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Is there a cultural or historical reason for it. I don't want to bring /pol/ shit into here so just discuss the /his/ and humanities of this, OK?

North and South American countries are really good at absorbing immigrants. Why is Europe so bad at it?

Ive read before that its because Europeans have a sense of superiority about themselves "oh, we are so good, of coarse these immigrants will accept our ways! unlike those bigoted Americans'.

Basically, Europeans think they are such hot shit and that either they think outsiders will immediately convert to the superior culture instantly, OR its all those outsiders fault and if it wasn't for that one Lebanese shopkeeper, this small Greek island town would be 8 gorillion times more prosperous.
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>>2126696
I agree. Because Europe is bad for immigrants let's send them all to Japan.
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>>2126696
Because they let the feels brigade get into power, and now they think it's the right thing. They don't realise America brings in more immigrants every year than anyone else.
They also can't accept the fact that most of the "refugees" are just looking for an easier life by living off off the government
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>>2126714

Its not that Europe is bad for immigrants, its just that Europeans seem like bungling morons who mismanage stuff then move into far-right parties when their incompetence bites them in the butt.

Classic "I'm the brilliant moral person, everybody elses fault for everything REEEEEE"

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the fuel for the trains, gas for authorities cars, zyklon b bills, paychecks for all paid employees involved, the food they paid the prisoners.How expensive was the holocaust.
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>>2126668
>zyklon b
I want one of those showers.
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>>2126668
The SS bought tickets from the railroads for all the people they transported to the camps. Children under twelve were free.
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>>2126668
They covered their expenses by selling novelty lampshades and soaps.

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The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand fails but a similar incident occurs approximately one year later in the balkans triggering the war. Does the War starting in 1915 drastically change what happens? Does this change how the Russian Revolution plays out? Does Ireland have independence and stay neutral? Which countries are better prepared compared to how they were in 1914?
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>>2111927
That's a pretty shit scenario for alt history.
At least change the location of the incident caused. Say it happens in Galicia or some shit.
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>>2111927
>Does Ireland have independence and stay neutral?
The only reason ireland got independence was because of Eternal Babarian feeding them arms and money to riot

Typical Irish.

Only thing that could have changed is maybe the Turks would be closer to the Brits and not betray us after we saved them countless timese in the past
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>>2111927

One could say that Spain supported the Axis. It just was "non-belligerent" (besides the Blue Division, sometimes justified with the fight against the commies)

These maps are usually too simplistic

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>Enrolled in History courses for university
>Free education (Sweden)
>But the books cost approx. $512
>One of them alone costs nearly 200$.

I want to perish. Just let me write essays about ancient greece and/or Rome in peace without the knowledge that I need to spend a gorillion moneys on books alone.
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>>2126492
Can't you just pirate them you cuck
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kewl

Now imagine paying $300 for books on top of a $100k student loan so your uni can pay the college football coach a million dollar a year salary.
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>>2126498
If your football coach is making a million or more then chances are the football program is bringing more money to the university than it's taking out. They're certainly not subsidized by your shitty tuition.

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