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Without the Franks, Europe would have been lost to Islam. Thank you based Frankies. God bless you all.
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You're welcome
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>>2166958
prove it.
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>>2166987
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tours

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What are your thoughts on Sikhism?
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>>2166927
its pretty sikh bruh
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I have no thoughts on things I know nothing about
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>>2166954

But that's obvious, isn't it?

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'Freedom' as a word means being able to do what you(nonpossessive singular) want.

What's 'just the right amount' of freedom, where you may not tread on others, and others may not tread on you?

We all know freedom is undemocratic, anyway.
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>>2166862
Positive and negative liberty?
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>>2166862
If you aren't violating the rights of others to life or property, you aren't restricting their freedom. You should have the freedom to do anything that doesn't restrict the freedom of others, because that would be usurping the sovereignty every individual holds over their body and life.
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>>2167419
Freedom is not restrictions thus you can do what you wish no matter how much it hurts others.

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Why haven't you learned Esperanto yet?

Explain yourselves.
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Too busy learning Toki Pona.
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>>>/int/
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Esperanto isn't a language by the strict definition since it's an artificial construct intended to mimic a naturally born language which is a fruit of the human mind.

It's like comparing a plastic flower to a real rose.

This timeline where Esperanto didn't succeed is a good one since I'm not sure if people who speak a plastic "language" natively like George Soros are really fully human.

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Whas this a good tank when it worked?
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>>2166823
No
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>>2166823

Not really. It was a reasonably good long range platform for attacking other tanks, but a tank's job encompasses far more than just that.
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We have been having this thread daily lately.

I've made no discernible effort to know anything about her, or her ilk(fame for fame's sake). But omnipresent exposure has imparted a piece of trivia or two. Why is this?

How would you explain this to an ancient?
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>>2166766
>25 year rule
Like, whatever. Kim Kardashian is the daughter of Robert Kardashian, OJ Simpson's lawyer.
Her entire existence as a "famous-for-being-famous" celebrity is owed to the much greater and timelessly famous-for-being-famous celebrity, Paris Hilton. KK basically worked as Hilton's slave, cleaning her closet, being verbally abused, etc and now desperately attempts to be something on her own by achieving a vast financial empire, to little avail as her husband Mr. West's debts are staggeringly large.

Basically,
Kim K : Paris :: Jeb Bush : Donald Trump
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>>2166766
Dunno. There was probably a legendary super-wealthy patrician caught having sex with a super-proccured courtesan that was the talk of Rome for several years. Or not. But it's not like there weren't celebrities of some sort back before telecomunications were around. Just fewer, and there would usually be a higher bar for achievement.
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>>2166766

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So what's the actual point of learning dead languages like Latin as opposed to modern languages in schools? Unless you're studying history or classics in university, it seems like a bunch of pointless antiquarianism and generally a waste of time when it comes to children.
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>>2166729
Italian here

You can't say you fully understand Italian if you don't know Latin. And Italian is pretty much alive right now
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Another italian here,i don't agree with the other italian,because,while,yes, latin gives you a deeper understanding of italian in some ways, i don't think this deeper level is in any way useful. My take on the usefulness of teaching latin(which i don't really agree with, but i think does make sense), is that it lets people discover latin litterature, which is pretty important unless your idea of school is just getting kids ready for everyday life.
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it´s helpful if you´re studying law or history

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I always see people nowadays talking about the Middle East as though its radical Muslims, violence, and instability are all almost a result of themselves. That is, their religion just became or perhaps always was this radical by itself, that its hatred of the West is similarly natural, that its incompatibility with ideals of Western civilization and the United States is similarly natural.

However, is there really just no reason that this part of the world and this culture became this way? I ask because I am not super well-versed in world history, but I seem to remember quite a bit of European intervention following the collapse of the Ottoman Empire in the early-mid 20th century. More specifically, that Europe sort of 'propped up' the remains of the Ottoman empire and then eventually just withdrew this artificial stability? I don't remember exactly.

Main point is that I'm not trying to sympathize with the Middle East and all of its detested attributes and cultures and people, and I'm not trying to say who is to blame. I am only asking- is all of the terrorism, the instability, the radical Islam, and the hatred of the West in the Middle East only the 'fault' of the region, or is there some crucial history behind the region and its relationship to the West that might better explain its many problems?

Note that I really am coming at this with an impartial view. I see people online always talk shit about Islam and its incompatibility with the West, but I am wondering if perhaps this region and its ideals and its issues are a part of a 'bigger picture' of Western intervention rather than only an inherently destructive ideology.
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If you wanna have a discussion about the Sykes–Picot Agreement, then just say it.

No need to sugar-coat it.
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The middle east has always needed major islamic powers to bring stability and unity and still does
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>>2166587
Those people are idiots
Its fucked because of
1. Turkish cleansing of Mutazilites
2. The British
3. Americans thinking they can take over where the british left off
4. Baathism failing

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This man has just arrived at your home country and he wants you to join his revolutionary movement to free you from the tyranny of authoritarian conservatism.

What do you do?
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>>2166533
report him to the authorities
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>>2166544
Why? He looks so trustworthy.

I wouldn't mind handing all levers of power to him and his friends.
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>>2166533
>free you from authoritarian conservatism

Off yourself, illiterate

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Why is misinformation so persistent? Especially in the historical context? There's a tremendous amount of things that are quite simply wrong that millions of people believe fervently. I mostly look into military history (pleb, I know), and it's astoundingly common there, but I'm willing to bet that every branch of history has similar problems.

Some of it is an emotional investment in misapprehensions, the WE WUZING and the "my country is the best", but a lot of the shit floating around out there defies such a simple explanation, like misunderstandings about how medieval to renaissance weapons and armor worked, which I doubt anyone would get worked up over.

So why is it that correct information isn't displacing incorrect information?
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>>2166201
Memes. Dead serious. Once the contagious thought gets into the populace, it's almost impossible to counteract it without direct evidence otherwise.
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>>2166201
such as?
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>>2166201
Lack of skepticism. Belief is a force of will to many people, the truth isn't sought. If you don't take the time to question things you're told, you'll believe whatever falls in line with your pre-conceived notions.

In the Old Testament God's essentially an ethnic and war God of the henotheistic Jews.

And all evidence points to him just being an increasingly exalted Zeus/Jupiter type. Storm imagery, fighting the giant sea serpent Leviathan (note, exact cognate with Lotan, the serpent the Ugaritic storm god Ba'al fought). The flood in Gilgamesh, almost identical to the flood in Genesis was also caused by a storm god, Enlil.

And if you think the Jews were simply misunderstanding God, remember, this is when God was speaking directly to the Jews, dwelling the Ark of the Covenant, leading them in war, and performing real miracles, instead of speaking through some avatar who you could make a serious case never even claimed to be God and failed to convince the majority of Jews.

How do Christians deal with this?
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>>2166196

>How do Christians deal with this?

By ignoring it, mostly. It's the same way they deal with even more direct contradictions and theological problems from the Old Testament.
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>>2166196
Wow, talk about literalism. Are you just another fedora raised in a Protestant household?

>>2166205
Such as?
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>>2166196
euphoric

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Should poor people be banned from breeding
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>removing cheap replaceable labour
how un-capitalistic of you
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Everybody should be banned from breeding and only artificial births should be allowed so we have a better control on birth rates moving forward
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>>2166079
>implying there is any place for menial labor in the age of automation and AI
welcome to neo-capitalism

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ITT: overrated talentless generals
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>>2165809
Wasn't zhukov a good general?
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What ethnicity were the Huns?
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Nobody knows, the description if Atilla says he was stocky with a heavy brow and small eyes.

They came from the eastern steps, a lot of Hungarian culture derives from horse people and were originally nomads that settled. Whether they were the huns is unknown.
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>>2165762
Chinese, everybody knows that
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Black

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If the Nazis had won WW2 and ruled the world, How would Hitler have handled the millions of poor and homeless people who inevitably would have resulted from the transition of the authoritarian war economy to the free market rentier economy?

Surely he should have realised there can never be jobs and houses for everyone?

>inb4 kill them all

Then that means the rentiers and capitalists will lose their profits, anon. Then they would inevitably lobby the Nazis to adopt liberal democracy.
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Well Germany was already in a pretty poor condition when he got to power and he put it back on its feet, i'm sure he would've thought out some new Wirtschaftswunder
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>>2165690
Read the OP again carefully and then submit your reply before making a fool of yourself
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>>2165693
Shut up faggot you're not the boss of me

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