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Why are the Vikings the main subject of history when you talk about Scandinavia, why is there no romanticized """history""" show about the Caroleans? What did they do wrong?
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The wha-?
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Did they invade Britain? No? So who cares?
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>>2241494
Scandinavia in Medieval times is shithole. All historical sources talks only about Danes - Northmans - they are real Scourge of Europe and later they create Normandy - Sicilian Kingdoms, Great Britain etc. All other Skandi are just Fingol woodcutters. But later in times Calmar Union mass German colonization of Sweden (what is German name for this country) happened, and because of this Sweden begin dominate in Baltic region, Swedish Empire etc. Such greatness demand invention of epic ancestors and Swedes invent Gothicism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothicism
Is same shit as Sarmatism, but for Swedes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatism

But later Gothic origin of Swedes become too laughable and they invent vikings in XIX century (historic sources know Normans, Danes but almost don't known vikings - only few timesmentioned about pathetic pirates). Swedes spread this shit vikings around the word by same vay as they spread Ikea now.

Why they don't fap to Swedish Empire instead? Because their Empire suck Russian dicks too often and Swedes not forget this yet.

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If the second world war didn't happen how would the first world war be remembered today?
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>lots of gas
>burtrhurt serb manlets
>some old german fat fuck called the kaiser
>turks probably more relevant
>axis wouldn't be so demonized like WW2 axis
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>>2241485
People would unironically view it as the world to end all wars.
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>>2241497
>serb manlets

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Why have the napoleonic wars been largely forgotten by pop culture?

I mean, Napoleon is definitely a well known figure, but only by name, I doubt most people know why he is famous.

I mean, they are basically World War 0. So at first I tough maybe they were stuck in the same hole WW1 was, overshadowed by WW2, but lately the interest in WW1 seems to have spiked, while I still don't see much mention of the napoleonic wars anywhere.
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>>2241358
There's hasn't been a major, iconic film or even television series on it. Or even a video game. Think about it, films like Saving Private Ryan and games like Call of Duty popularised WW2 to your average Joe. Outside academia, your average person has had little exposure to Napoleon on his life and therefore don't care. It's not like they're going read War and Peace or any historical biography.

There needs to be a Oscar winning blockbuster on the man.
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>>2241358
The only reason why WWI is being referenced in pop culture again is because of the ongoing WWI Centennial.

Once November 11, 2018 rolls around, it'll be forgotten again.
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>>2241386
You might be right. I did started hearing way more about WW1 after Battlefield 1 was first announced. Tho it was already getting some more mentions earlier.

>>2241387
idk man, you might be right that it's due to the centennial. But I imagine that all the kewl missconceptions people have built in their heads of WW1 might make it stick for longer, like that idea that it was literal cavemen fighting with modern guns or something that a lot of people seem to believe.

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>Austrians, Chicagoites and Keynesians have economics degrees
>Marxists have humanities degrees
Really makes you think..........
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>>2241306
It's because all economists are part of bourgeois conspiracy the working class!!!
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>>2241323
*against the working class
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>>2241306
Why is there no such thing as an alpha leftist? Literally every man is a cuck or jew

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Is there any ancient European culture more over-romanticized and over-sentimentalized than the insular Celts?

You see this a lot in many circles. Irish and Scottish Nationalists (which would make sense), Plastic Paddies in America (especially in regions with a high Celtic population such as Central Appalachia or parts of New England), and those neopagan New Age types.

But aside from inventing pants and being really good at metallurgy, is there anything worth romanticizing about the Ancient Celts? I'm mainly referring to the insular Celts of Britain and Ireland.

They were headhunters and primitive tribals.

>but muh Irish saved civilization

That was post-Romanization and Christianization. I'm talking The Wicker Man type of Celts, not The Quiet Man type of Celts. And do note that I am of primarily Celtic descent, mostly a mix of both Irish and Scots-Irish (Ulster Scots to you Britfags), so it's not a /pol/ thing. So, discuss this amongst yourselves.

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>hey were headhunters
Yes

>and primitive tribals.
No
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>>2241131
Don't forget the fact that they were the last European peoples to practice human sacrifice and they practiced it to a far greater extent than the Greeks, Romans, or Germanic peoples.

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Who the fuck romanticises ancient Celts? Nobody does this apart from teenage neopagans.

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Why is it ever time I see a map of """kurdistan""" it seems to be getting bigger? It's like any place where a Kurd has lived suddenly becomes "ancient kurdish land".
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>>2241067
Anglo-American empire's propaganda to expand influence
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>>2241067
Kurds are nomads. They don't deserve a state.
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>>2241067
Borders vary, we don't have an exact measure.

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Looking at historical precedents of islam taking over large parts of the world and the change of religion in combination with the indigenous culture leading to interesting mixes... What would Europe look like if it turns Islamic?
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>>2240991
Like shit.
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>>2240991
They would unironically Hagia Sophia every christian landmark
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>>2240991
It would stop being so degenerate

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/tv/ needs your judgement on these. realistic or not?
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>>2240959
Lol what film is this? Also no, very unrealistic.
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>>2240958
>>2240959
What the fuck?

Please tell me this isn't The Pacific, I was actually wanting to watch that one.

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the Swiss found a lost portrait of Frederic Chopin

guy looked like a criminal not a musician
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looks like walken tbqh
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>>2240949
This. Now we know where that propensity for cowbell came from.
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>>2240944
It's the Slav genes, his mum was Polish and he grew up in Poland.

Probably squatted in private too.

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Would the Scientific/Industrial revolutions and the European conquest of much of the world have still taken place had Christianity not become dominant in Europe in the late Roman period? If so, would they have taken place sooner or later than in the actual timeline?
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>>2240913
well for a great deal of Europe's history, the only people transcribing, preserving and writing books were Christian theologians, so at the very least it probably didn't hurt
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>>2240913

>claim to have given unity to the Roman Empire, that kept most of the Old Word united, after causing massive social disruption in the first place
>destroy europe's pagan heritage to a degree that makes the Taliban look refined... cool down after a few centuries, keep what's left and insist you're a vital part, a continuation and preserver of a philosophical tradition
>open the floodgates to a bunch of heresies, most important of which being Islam, which fucked entire parts of the world and the eventual Earth

Seriously, the Levant was a mistake.
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>>2240918

Came to say this. They kept a lot of literature safe for many years, and were hard workers themselves producing lots.

>nazis believe that only the strongest survive
>nazis lose the war
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yet they still survive
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>>2240826
>Nazis believe that they are the übermensch who will rule the world
>Gets BTFO by a bunch of slavs driving tractors and wielding pointed sticks
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A.By the tune the Germans lost, over 80% of the world's GDP at the times was going into defeating them.
B. hitler killed himself, his wife, and his dog and had (at least he and his wife) burned.
c. The final line of Liter's last will and testamet was "centuries will pass, but from the ashes of our monuments, hatred will always arise anew for those we have to thank for all of this: international jewry and their henchmen.

I don'r see the laugh. HE did what he said he would, he follow his own word right to the last...

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Were Ottoman white?
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Nobody's white
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ottomans yes

turks no
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ITT: triggers

>I'm a royalist
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>>2240594
>It was America who defeated the Nazis
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>You have to pick a side in EVERY conflict
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>>2240632
>>2240637
these two triggers me so much

What's their master plan?
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>>2240318
shoot twice and go home
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>>2240318
Be forever irrelevant
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>>2240318
lowkey remain to be the largest arms dealer of the same product since 1891

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Does nationalism ever typically turn out well for a country? Seems like despite all of its benefits it always degrades rapidly. Is it that it turns into jingoism instead of patriotism, or are isolationist economic policies gone too far what leads them to not last/go left?
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Nationalism is a deification of the State

No
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>>2240106
Japan says yes
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>>2240106
Nationalism creates a need for justification of the actions of the people and the state since it (typically) based on a mythic ideal. This creates autism and problems. But the better term for it would be ''Ultra Nationalism''.

>Nationalism is a complex, multidimensional concept involving a shared communal identification with one's nation. It is expressed as a political ideology oriented towards achieving and maintaining communal autonomy, and sometimes sovereignty, over a territory of historical significance to the group.

Before ''national awareness'', there is a commonly acknowledged sharing of language culture and other traits within a group. Nationalism in it's basest form would be to segregate and attempt to preserve said group within a nation-state.

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