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DOes history repeat itself? 2017-01-30 10:29:09 Post No.2297013
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DOes history repeat itself?
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A lot of news sources describe current political/international events as something that has been done before, thus pushing the notion that history repeats itself.
I can understand that the phrase is true when the history of the world or nations is extremely trivialised and dumbed down. Is this saying even relevant and/or true? If so, to what extent?
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*blocks your path*
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>>2296923
>it's just so perfect and pure!
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*kicks your ass*
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If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
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how dark were the dark ages really
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>>2296917
A time of brilliance, learning and decentralization.
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>>2296917
Religion saved Europe from plunging into the abyss during the "dark" ages.
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>>2296917
Like a room illuminated by candle light
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I rarely see /his/ discuss that which has arisen from this subcontinent, be it historical or philosophical (with the exception of Buddhism, but that is usually from the Sinic perspective anyway). Why is that?
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Because this board is /pol/-lite and extremely Western-centric.
But you could share some knowledge, if you want to. I wouldn't mind learning more, seeing as I know absolutely nothing about it.
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>>2296814
Unfortunately I must admit my knowledge in regards to the Indian subcontinent is lacking and most of what I do know can be found with a simple Wikipedia search.
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I remember reading in Ancient Engineers that the Indians put most of their writing on leaves, which is why we have so much less writing from ancient Indians compared to Mesopotamians and Egyptians.
I do know that there's a lot of interesting stuff coming out of India that we don't know much about, such as passing references from Greek writers of republics existing in India, or bronze age cities with a gridiron plan, no fortifications and working sewers.
>the toilets were never flushed
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Was he?
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part 2
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I'm not going to make up my mind until I see how the aliens fit into this
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There are, classically and historically, several different religious traditions that have fallen under the label of Islam. And I don't simply mean the legal schools or the Sunni-Shi'a divide, but subcultures. You have the aforementioned legal tradition, itself split into the imperialist and the antinomian schools of thought. You have the aristocracy, the upper class of Islamic societies throughout the ages whose practice of religion differed substantially from the commoners, the masses made up of the lower classes of Islamic society. And you have the border culture, those who live on the theoretical edge of Islamdom and find meaning and purpose in raids and conflict with everyone around them.
The debate between whether Islam is a religion of peace or not seems to me a modern battle between followers (and their non-Muslim supporters/detractors) of two of the above traditions over which is the 'true' Islam. In times past these conflicts were subdued thanks to segregation, both natural and man-made, but today the rise of the modern state, communications, and travel has forced them all together. Thus for those who faithfully profess they are Muslim and their faith is a religion of peace, if they're not just signaling for whatever reason, they mean to say that they themselves are a nonviolent person who comes from an Islamic background of some kind, and are attempting to define their belief as the right and correct, and maybe only, Islam. Meanwhile those who believe they are Muslim and are violent are much the same, only theirs is a tradition of expansionism, imperialism, and so on, and they push their own views as the one true form of Islam.
The difference is less religious and more cultural. Like the difference between an American liberal from a bustling city and an American conservative from a small town.
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>mfw I thought this was uncharacteristically level headed for a /his/ post, but then recognize it's my own from a while back.
Didn't think anyone would save it. Thanks OP.
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what difference does it make Islam or no there are an awful lot of mean spirited low IQ brown people out there stuck in the stone age aggressively expanding and being funded by rich Saudis
nexxxxxt
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>>2296789
I found it in my /his/ folder, totally forgot I saved it even, but though it was relevant to discuss now. I'm just interested in hearing people debate, and my field isn't in the humanities so I wouldn't exactly be able to craft a good argument about the topic.
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Thinking of studying philosofy in university, is it a good idea? 2017-01-30 08:56:43 Post No.2296615
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Thinking of studying philosofy in university, is it a good idea?
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2017-01-30 08:56:43
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Thinking about working with translations of old works, mostly.
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Learn a trade and study philosophy/history in your free time
t. knower
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>>2296615
>philosofy
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>>2296651
Fpbp
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Do you accept Cheikh Anta Diop's cradle model of civilizations 2017-01-30 08:22:48 Post No.2296496
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2017-01-30 08:22:48
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Southern Cradle-Egyptian Model:
Abundance of vital resources.
Sedentary-agricultural.
Gentle, idealistic, peaceful nature with a spirit of justice.
Matriarchal family.
Emancipation of women in domestic life.
Territorial state.
Xenophilia.
Cosmopolitanism.
Social collectivism.
Material solidarity – alleviating moral or material misery
Idea of peace, justice, goodness and optimism.
Literature emphasizes novel tales, fables and comedy.
Northern Cradle-Greek Model:
Bareness of resources.
Nomadic-hunting (piracy)
Ferocious, warlike nature with spirit of survival.
Patriarchal family.
Debasement/enslavement of women.
City state (fort)
Xenophobia.
Parochialism.
Individualism.
Moral solitude.
Disgust for existence, pessimism.
Literature favors tragedy.
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Southern Cradle-Egyptian Model:
Abundance of vital resources.
Sedentary-agricultural.
Gentle, idealistic, peaceful nature with a spirit of justice.
Matriarchal family.
Emancipation of women in domestic life.
Territorial state.
Xenophilia.
Cosmopolitanism.
Social collectivism.
Material solidarity – alleviating moral or material misery
Idea of peace, justice, goodness and optimism.
Literature emphasizes novel tales, fables and comedy.
Northern Cradle-Greek Model:...
Bareness of resources.
Nomadic-hunting (piracy)
Ferocious, warlike nature with spirit of survival.
Patriarchal family.
Debasement/enslavement of women.
City state (fort)
Xenophobia.
Parochialism.
Individualism.
Moral solitude.
Disgust for existence, pessimism.
Literature favors tragedy.
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anyone?
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>>2296496
Sounds vaguely Afro-centrist. I'd have to see his reasoning behind them.
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Is conduct right because the God commands it, or dose God command it because it is right?
(suppose god is real lol)
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I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
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The latter. Exodus 32:11-14.
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Is it fair to judge historical figures by modern moral standards?
If not does that mean morality is subjective and not objective?
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Morality is a meme
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Morality is objective
It is also independent of r*ligion
Childhood is thinking morality is subjective and gray
Adulthood is realizing it's been objective all along
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morality is a spook
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what is it about people who make jokes about the crusades that makes them so fucking cringey? I honestly feel bad every time I see someone say "DEUS VULT XDDDDDDD", or try to act like their 20-year-old obese virgin self is at all comparable to a medieval soldier.
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The same thing that made fedora tippers acting as though they were comparable to great scientists and philosophers: people without self-awareness trying to ape the achievements and struggles of others without any merit to their own existence.
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>>2296426
>Animeposter
>Making such a shitty thread
>Somehow thinking you're superior
>[spoiler]"Hurr durr I'm just pretending to be retarded"[/spoiler]
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>>2296437
>criticism means they consider themselves superior
How's that insecurity working out for you? OP may be keenly aware that their shit stinks.
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>The ussr never let him finish the punchline
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>it's just a pr-
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>the nazis never let him finish the punchline
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But they won.
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>Lose most battles against the allies (Us, UK) with negative K:D
>Only have a K:D of 1:3 om the eastern front despite generals pretty much wanting their Soviet soldiers to die
Why did the germans suck so fucking bad?
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*K:D 1,3
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>>2296316
>K:D
Only Americans care about that meme.
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>>2296336
Lost an awful amount of battles and Look at battle of britain, they sucked balls
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So the question of Greece 2017-01-30 07:24:47 Post No.2296263
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is it true that Greece stole all its science and philosophy from Egypt and the Near East and just put a greek omega stamp on it
thats what i have heard some people claim on /his
whats the truth here?
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>>2296263
in most cases, no. There have been influences in mathematics, for example, but they were advanced by them, not simply stolen
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>>2296263
After the Bronze age collapse Phoenicians largely opened up the path for near eastern influence on the Greeks with their trade routes. Prior to the Bronze age collapse, early Greeks like the Myceneans were influenced by the Minoans who in turn were influenced by Egypt.
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Depends on what you mean by "Greece". To an ancient Greek, "Greece" was anywhere that there were people speaking Greek. In Hellenistic and Roman times, that meant colonies all over the Black Sea and northern Mediterranean, as well as the ruling classes in Syria and Egypt.
What I'm saying is that "Greece" was pretty well the whole Mediterranean, linked by the lingua franca, Greek. It became one culture under Rome, and all educated Romans spoke Greek among the ruling class. Any educated person at that time might be called a "Greek", if he could write in the language understood by all educated people.
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Was he autistic?
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>>2296152
Probably, honestly.
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was it all just irony?
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>>2296152
He turned all of /pol/s memes into reality.
That has to count for something.