Why is it that every successful civilization has had some kind of belief either in a spiritual power, higher power, or god?
Is there something innate to spirituality and religion that helps keep civilization stable and helps people innovate?
This isn't a thread to argue about specific religions but rather to discuss in a broader sense why there weren't any successful civilizations that haven't believed in some kind of life force/god
>>2411110
>Is there something innate to spirituality and religion that helps keep civilization stable and helps people innovate?
Pacifies the masses and sets a goal to work toward. Also, tribalism.
>>2411136
Wrong. Like the myth "religion is to make one desire for the next world" that is a decidedly Christian phenomena. He roman state pagan cult, for example, one could expect a gray and dull afterlife unless you were a hero.
>AYO, THIS SKYMAN TOLD ME WE NEED TO DO X TO RECIEVE Y BLESSING
>ALSO, SACRIFICE A GOAT, PEACE
Why does /his/ dislike Germany so much?
Is it the Wehraboos?
Is it the fact they're still loved after how many times they've fucked up?
What is it?
>>2410705
mixture of shitposting and the same butthurt Mareks and Nigels you see on /pol/
Edgy Wehraboos.
German exceptionalism and the absurd amount of apologists it has.
Being responsible for fucking Europe over and over.
they fucked europe too many times
>This triggers the eternal dane
Swedes are the strongest race.
>>2410664
True, Sweden had been left in a weak state by the ruling nobility and was a declining empire, and denmark had just spent the last 15 years to strike Sweden at Its weakest.
But then comes the fucking legend Karl XI and kicks the pathetic danes out of Scania
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lund
>>2410640
the mid-sixteenth century onward is a tale of danish cuckery. denmark admittedly got really rich at this time, but Christian IV's intervention into the 30 Years' War is arguably the biggest fuck up of all time.
>>2408385
>What if I pray to Baal as a saint? If I pray to Baal the way you pray to Mary, is it worship?
You're an absolute fucking idiot. You can't pray to Baal as a saint because he is not a saint! He is a false god! If you pray to Baal you'd be praying to him as a God you fucking faggot.
>Deuteronomy 18:10-12
"No one shall be found among you who makes a son or daughter pass through fire, or who practises divination, or is a soothsayer, or an augur, or a sorcerer, or one who casts spells, or who consults ghosts or spirits, or who seeks oracles from the dead. For whoever does these things is abhorrent to the Lord; it is because of such abhorrent practices that the Lord your God is driving them out before you." You fucking asshole, if you actually read the verse you'd see this is clearly about divination.
>Where do these say the eucharist ceases to be bread?
Can you not read you fucking faggot?
>This is about the Church, the body of Christ is the Church. It also refers to it as bread, not flesh
Your interpretation is gay. This what protefags do best. You're just twisting the text to fit your gay theology. And if you actually read the context you can see more clearly Paul is talking of the Eucharist. "Consider the people of Israel; are not those who eat the sacrifices partners in the altar? What do I imply then? That food sacrificed to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything? No, I imply that what pagans sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God. I do not want you to be partners with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons. Or are we provoking the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than he?" - 1 Corinthians 10:18-22
>being an autistichristian
>>2410592
>Never even refers to it as Christ's body and blood.
"For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which He was betrayed took bread; and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25 In the same way He took the cup also after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes." - 1 Corinthians 11:23-26 Looks like 'm right, you can't read you fucking faggot.
>This never refers to the eucharist, an in fact happens before it. So this clearly isn't the Lord's Supper. Furthermore, John 6:35 defines eating and drinking as faith.
"Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. For My flesh is real food, and My blood is real drink.…" - John 6:54-55
>Objectively false https://onefold.wordpress.com/early-church-evidence-refutes-real-presence/
Oh you really want to go there faggot? Ok bitch, you unleashed the monster. I am going to refute everything this gay site has on it. It's gonna take me a while but I'll do it. I am the new Irenaus and I will destroy all heresies!
>>2410592
>tfw you pray to Baal before performing the Moloch rite
>1. America is ungovernable
>2. He who serves a revolution plows the sea
>3. All one can do in America is leave it
>4. The country is bound to fall into unimaginable chaos, after which it will pass into the hands an indistinguishable string of tyrants of every color
>5. Once we are devoured by all manner of crime and reduced to a frenzy of violence, no one, not even the Europeans will want to subjugate us
>6. And, finally, if mankind could revert to it's primitive state, it would be here in America, in her final hour.
Was Simón Bolívar right about the Americas?
>>2410568
>4. The country is bound to fall into unimaginable chaos, after which it will pass into the hands an indistinguishable string of tyrants of every color
That's Latin America
>>2410568
>Dude we are opressed we need freedom from Spain
>Dude what do you mean that I cannot be a dictator and imposse my will everywhere
>Dude America sucks.I want to retire in Spain
>Dude I shouldn't have started all this meme in the first place
>>2410568
Perhaps about Latin America, Anglo America works differently. Everything he said excludes the US and Canada.
What are some historical examples of individuals having the power to drastically alter the course of history... but doing nothing about it?
Everyone who has ever been in a room with a world leader and not murdered them.
>>2410503
doing nothing is altering the course of history faggot
>>2410651
wtf im historically significant now
Is "Defence of the seven sacraments" worth reading?
Yes.also if England would have stayed catholic the world would be amazing.
>>2411729
Why?
>>2411753
Less perfidious Anglo, more merry old England
Thoughts on Otto von Bismarck?
>>2410105
Smart guy. Managed to lead Prussia and later Germany nicely in foreign affairs, through well played diplomacy. His war on Catholics and socialists was a bit uncalled for but overall he was pretty good in shaping Germany's foreign policy, though not so good in dealing with internal matters.
The Donald Trump of his era.
Excellent politician who did the impossible and united the Germanic states into one nation. This would prove to be the biggest mistake ever made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17dAgPQsn9E
Hey pshhht...lemme tell you guys a secret, my ideas were never really debunked. One of my biggest ideas, democratic centralism, is still alive and well in China and a real rival to traditional democracy in effectiveness.
Also, planned economy wasn't supposed to be a unquestionable central tenet of marxism-leninism but that pox-riddled, shriveled-armed Stalin made it so.
Communism is still inevitable, see the budding idea of Universal Basic Income. Gotta Go!
k keep me posted
>UBI
so true communism is everyone living off NEETbucks?
> planned economy wasn't supposed to be a unquestionable central tenet of marxism-leninism
according to who?
compared to the original roman gods?
>>2410033
Why are Roman gods so shit, compared to Greek gods?
>>2410045
Why are they all so shit compared to Prometheus ?
>>2410033
>compared to the original roman gods?
If it's shit, why are there no roman gods worshipers?
ITT: Historically interesting artifacts you own
Pic related, it's a brick inscription from the reign of Amar-sin, the third ruler of the Third Ur Dynasty (1981–1973 BCE). Not priceless, but nice to have.
The Third Dynasty of Ur was the last Sumerian dynasty to dominate Mesopotamia. My grandmother was a visiting professor of archaeology in Mosul in the 70s, so our family has tons of this stuff.
How do you know it's real?
Also I have almost nothing. The most interesting thing is probably some coal from the wreck of the Titanic.
>>2409847
Where do you even store such stuff at home?
I would have crippling anxiety, not having historical artifacts in musea or archives.
>>2409886
I think in the circumstances he described it would be more impressive if it wasn't real.
Really makes you think. Is the world more united or more fragmented?
More united than ever. Global capital is nationless
It could have been very united.
Could the Austrian Empire ever have federated?
We should all thank this country for civilizing us all.
thank you Italia
>>2409632
Mexico of all places? Why?
>>2409651
t. Cletus
are the Mongols always forced to apologize for Genghis Khan
do the Islamic Empires have to apologize constantly
hell the Ottomans were more ruthless than any European empire
Is it simply White/Western Guilt complex
>>2409597
White people are weak and have no will to power. Even when they conquered they fooled themselves into thinking they were helping people and taking on the "white man's burden." Once they realized it was bullshit they could do nothing but give up and apologize.
>>2409597
>are the Mongols always forced to apologize for Genghis Khan
They have mongolism, they can't be held responsible
>do the Islamic Empires have to apologize constantly
Islam is THE religion of peace
>hell the Ottomans were more ruthless than any European empire
Do you see any Ottoman around?
>>2409610
>Do you see any Ottoman around
What is Turkey?
>"Ah mon dieu! We have completed Le glorious Maginot Line, now the Allegmagne will never be able to invade us, hon hon hon hon!"
>"Oui oui! But Pierre should we also not build the fortificacione along the border with Belgique?"
>"Sacre bleu! The Belgique will never invade, hon hon hon hon!"
>>2409507
>Implying the Belgians didn't have their own border fortifications
>Implying French defensive plans weren't predicated on a relatively slow advance a la WW1, which would give the French time to man Belgian fortifications in case of German attack
2/10.
>>2409507
Are you retarded or something?
Check mate Frenchies. Just attack along the blue arrow and you don't even have to go through Belgium. Also why did they build fortifications against Switzerland?