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*blocks your path*
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>Eviscerates you
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*se interpone en tu camino*
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>>2444118
By being in an underground tunnel? Ok

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>>2444070
>dispute between iraq and iran since the 70's over shaat al arab waterway
>according to treaty between british mandate of iraq and persia, the waterway belongs to iraq and iran must pay a toll
>iran starts violating it in the 70s and using it anyway, while arming kurdish terrorists in the north
>saddam makes deal with shah's iran, he'll agree to split the shaat down the middle, if iran agrees to stop supporting terrorists
>they both agree, things go good for 4 years
>iran has revolution, diehard religious fanatic Khomeini comes to power, pisses off every country except his british and israeli backers
>starts promising he will overthrow saddam and replace secular baathist rule with hardcore religious theocracy in iraq like in iran
>supports terrorists which blow up university in baghdad
>increasing border skirmishes
>saddam decides to attack iran to take back the waterway, thinking the west will support him
>in reality west supports both sides against each other, using israel to send weapons to iran
>iraq push in all the way to dezful
>iran starts launching human wave attacks of children since they are religiously fanatic and dont care about casualties
>after 2 iraq decides the rising death toll isn't worth it, and withdraws back to the borders, offering a ceasefire
>iran refuses, saying they want to conquer karbala etc etc
>iran invades iraq for the next 6 years, refusing all ceasefires
>iran only captures a small amount of areas and iraq uses chemical weapons to stop them from capturing basra
>after 6 years, iraq pushes iran out from all iraqi territory in just a few days, which had taken iran 6 years to capture
>iran's leaders beg khomeini to accept ceasefire since they have no hope and have essentially lost
>khomeini says he will accept ceasefire like "drinking from poison"
>iraqis celebrate the ceasefire in baghdad, while iranians in tehran mourn it seeing it as a defeat
>1 year later khomeini dies cause he's so butthurt over losing

The end.
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>>2444089
>iraqi diaspora narrative
top kek
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Daily reminder that Iraq literally electrified a swamp to stop an Iranian offensive.

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What did he thought after knowing about Hiroshima and Nagasaki? I've read some fragments of his books, and he seems a nice guy after all.
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test
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high test
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>Soon after his wife Arline died, he got a short telegram stating that the trinity test will be conducted on July 16, 1945. He rushed to Los Alamos and witnessed the thing [famously he was the first person to see it‘directly’ (he viewed it through windshield) as everyone else saw it with googles]. Feynman mind was rather happy that all the calculation that they had done worked perfectly. When the news came that the bomb was dropped in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the reaction of the people at Los Alamos was elation and excitement. Feynman was also involved in this happy thing- he was drinking and played drums sitting on the hood of a jeep, while at the same time people were struggling in Hiroshima.

>I returned to civilization shortly after that and went to Cornell to teach, and my first impression was a very strange one. I can't understand it any more, but I felt very strongly then. I sat in a restaurant in New York, for example, and I looked out at the buildings and I began to think, you know, about how much the radius of the Hiroshima bomb damage was and so forth... How far from here was 34th street?... All those buildings, all smashed — and so on. And I would go along and I would see people building a bridge, or they'd be making a new road, and I thought, they're crazy, they just don't understand, they don't understand. Why are they making new things? It's so useless. But, fortunately, it's been useless for almost forty years now, hasn't it? So I've been wrong about it being useless making bridges and I'm glad those other people had the sense to go ahead.

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Why is British Exceptionalism a thing?
Do Brits still believe they are a great Empire?
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>>2443743
>he types, in English
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>>2443744
American actually.
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>>2443744
Yeah, but that's merely the legacy. What are they anymore?

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Why is the French Revolution celebrated, while the Russian Revolution is despised?

Bolshevism and Jacobinism are very similar.
Both dictatorships grew out of defeat and were imposed by riots. It was the treason of Dumouriez, the disasters of Belgium, the retreat of the army on all fronts that allowed the Montagnards to crush the Girondins, held responsible by the events in Paris on May 31 and June 2, 1793. It was the failure of Kerensky’s offensive of July 1917 followed by Kornilov’s adventure that allowed the Soviet uprising of October 1917 in Petrograd to succeed. There is an apparent difference here. The Montagnards seized power in order to intensify the war and gain victory. On the contrary, the Bolshevists looked on war or peace as means of saving the revolution. In the face of the exhaustion of Russia and the general lassitude Lenin convinced himself that peace was a necessary “respite” in order to consolidate the results of his coup de force. On the contrary Robespierre, feeling the patriotism of the country and knowing its resources, believed that the salvation of the revolution was invincibly tied to immediate victory on the battlefield. By opposite paths the two dictatorships pursued the triumph of their party and the realization of their ideal. As soon as his government is a bit more stable Lenin will form the Red Army and will return to the offensive.

Seems to me that Maximilien Robespierre, and later Napoleon Bonaparte are a good match for Vladimir Lenin, and later Joseph Stalin. Yet one is celebrated, the other demonized.

Why so?
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The jacobin phase of the revolution is despised tho.
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>>2443562
In the French Revolution, Robespierre is the villain, and Napoleon the hero.
In the Russian Revolution, Lenin is the hero, and Stalin is the villain.

Why this reverse, since Lenin was basically Robespierre, and Stalin was basically Napoleon?
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>>2443558
They are both despised by people who know what's up. Also Emma Stone is ugly.

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When the fuck are we going to get Constantinople back?
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>>2443389
*istanbul
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Never! Just try it faggot ;)
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A more appropriate question to ask would be when are Paris and London going to fall under the formal control of a caliph?

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I have a paper due tomorrow and midterm on friday

Teach me about American history from 1946 to 64 /his/
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>>2442768
McCarthyism
/thread
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Literally God-tier aesthetics

>inb4 plebs with their neon '80s garbage
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The United States retained a great deal of the security apparatus created by the Second World War, after realizing that the Soviet Union intended to annex half of Europe and represented a fundamentally hostile power to the western democracies.

The National Security Act created the CIA and National Security Council, which centralized American foreign policy to within the Oval Office.

A massive post-war economic boom was tempered by the knowledge that a destructive war with the communists was highly probable, but the United States remained determined to contain communism and protect the free world.

In domestic politics, the gradual expansion of the civil rights movement began the desegregation of the military and Brown vs. Board of Education and escalated to the point where MLK was marching a quarter of a million people onto Washington.

To put it another way:

REEEEEE FUCKING COMMIES GET OOOOUUUUUUTTT

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Why can't protestants and Catholics just get along? I'm tired of the numerous threads of us just throwing shit at each other. Even /pol/christians get along better.
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>>2441755
Find us a crusade.
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Protestants are the biggest cancer on /his in terms of Christian posters.

t. proddy
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Better the sultan's turban than the cardinal's hat

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>Age
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Doesn't exist
Islam
Have been on /his/ since it started
Netherlands
Netherlands
As far as I know only relevant leader was william of orange.
Early middle ages/late antiquity or the early modern period
Around 10-11 am
Augustus was cool I guess
Ottoman empire because nationalism and even without it was pretty cool other than that the early dutch republic was really good for its size
I'm not into philosophy
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>>2441589
>Age
24
>Name in Latin
Janus
>Religion
Atheism
>Time you've been a user of 4chan
Since 2009
>Country of birth
Germany
>Country of residence
German Calophate
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The one you posted
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Napolonic Wars and WW2
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Lunch
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Maximilian I or Frederick Barbarossa
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Napoleonic France or Nazi Germany
>Favorite current International city
Tokyo
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>age:
25
>Name in Latin:
whatever Sean is
>Religion:
lapsed catholic
>Time you've been a user of 4chan: 7 years
>Country of birth
Ireland
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Ireland
>Favorite Leader of your country
Collins
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Ww1/2
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6pm
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Aurelius
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Nepolenic France
>Favorite current International city
Vienna

How do you solve the problem of evil?

The only answers that make sense to me are:

A. God isn't real
B. Gnosticism
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No it's more like

A. God is good
B. Devil is bad
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>>2440945
It hinges on:
>Humans being able to determine characteristics of god
>Humans being able to determine what is evil or not
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>>2440945
It's a non-dilemma.
We as humans cannot attribute our morality standards to God.

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How did Malaysia even get put together? This may have possibly the worst clusterfuck territory of any country in the world.
>two main areas, separated by a very substantial distance.
>one is just a bit of a peninsula with the tip chopped off to become its own city state
>the other is the top of an island 1,000km away chopped off from Indonesia, with yet another tiny country enclaved within that.
How did these two areas on the other side of the ocean from each other even get joined into one country? How is the half an island bit not part of Indonesia, or the rest of the island not part of Malaysia?
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colonialism makes ugly border
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>>2439664
Usually yes, but in this case no.
Malaysia is a ethnic Malay state and was envisioned as such, these funny borders are simply where Malays are.
It could have been worse, ethno-states in places like the Philippines would look absurd. European States were able to get clean borders because centuries have intermittent state warfare and population movement made everyone move to their side of natural borders.
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>>2439679
>Malaysia is a ethnic Malay state and was envisioned as such, these funny borders are simply where Malays are.
SEA here, if that was the case, then it should include southern Thailand, Brunei, whole coastal Borneo, Singaore, and Sumatra island next door

Its literally post colonial autism

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Why is it so different than Central America?
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>>2439228
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Costa Rica is part of Central America, idiot.
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>>2439558
Not culturally, and that's one of the points.
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>>2439558
Been there for a couple of years. Culturally and even etnichally they are quite different from the rest of CA. A friend gave me a brief explanation, that goes like this:

CR was the poorest country of New Spain and they didnt even had money to buy that many slaves. Hacendados (or whatever the fuck you write that) actually had to work their lands themselves. I guess the fact that CA just didn't care about the backwater shit hole made them more independant (and they apperantly have a bit of a gudge over that. "Why should we give a shit about them when they didnt gave a shit about us?"). But this sounds more like an angry rant rather than an explanation.

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I've heard that Nietzsche was among the first to theorize the personalities and stories of various deities being based on the environment surrounding indigenous people.

For example, the possible reason YHWH and other desert deities were cruel and demanding is because the harsh desert environment would very easily destroy their life line (rivers, crop yield, ect.) causing mass death.

Who out their in the field is a leading supporter of this concept? What correlations have you noticed yourself?
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>>2431295

Jungian Archetype also speaks about it somewhat. I have to refresh my Psychology books before I can say solidly that Nietzsche was the first to correlate that nature might have the basing for the character of a deity.

I have read that the earliest of religions was based around the "sacred" and the "obscene". It was observed that earlier culture deemed something sacred and cults arose around it, protecting it from things which were "impure" and "obscene". These things became taboo. Breaking taboo was deemed punishable.

YHWH is a storm deity like his counterparts Adad Ba'al and Zeus and their original archetype, Ninurta.

Ninurta, while being a storm deity, was also a cruel hunter and a war deity. These archetypes were carried over as various iterations and thus they were cruel, not the other way around. You may say that storm was seen as something to be afraid of because of strong winds and thunder.
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>>2431295
I'm no expert, but i think it's pretty bang on. After all, we were (still are ultimately) a part of nature. What else could we possibly have referred to so early in our history? Our earliest uses of symbolism in cave drawings and later, ornamentation of clothing, all relates to animals, plants, the weather, land marks, habitats, the sun, the stars, the moon, day, night, ect. These are the fundamentals, the baseline entities and concepts which represent the primitive human reality of the time. From here, our superior intelligence and imaginative abilities embellished the rest of the symbolism into narratives, as a means of solidifying and teaching, passing on in tradition, down the generations because it allowed us to feel connected to each other and our offspring. Pagan religions never set out to politicize and moralize life, that is a very very modern invention. This is why 'nature' instead, appears to be such an important theme in many of them, because that's what life is, that's what we are.
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>>2431471

You are correct. My ancestors were very respectful towards nature and saw Nature as the nourisher, like a mother and the force driving her as the source, like a father. The mountains, the rivers, the forest, it was all seen and accepted as the forces that governed reality. The religion itself was never at the centre of politics and morality. In fact, religious reverence was the one time when community set aside the politics of hierarchy and ruling authority and just celebrate.

After the interaction with outer societies, the modern concept of what a religion should be, is very apparent. Religion is seen as a domain of supremacy and otherness and a means to control the society, completely denying what it actually means.

How was the experience of builing a cathedral? I mean, from a personal point of view of a worker, as human-beings. Imagine building something that you will not see finished. Neither your sons or your grandsons.

This applies for kings and for peasants...why not hesiating? why continue for centuries?
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>>2447587

WE CURRENTLY DO NOT KNOW; IT IS UNCERTAIN HOW THEY WERE EVEN BUILT.
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>>2447587
The experience of the common man is generally something that isn't well understood, since historically most people were illiterate.

>Imagine building something that you will not see finished. Neither your sons or your grandsons. This applies for kings and for peasants...why not hesiating?
Who would've cared? It paid well and they were glorifying God

>>2447621
that's the most retarded thing I've ever heard, there are still cathedrals being built today
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>>2447632
He's a Mexican, anything more complex than a straw hut is too magical for him to grasp.

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Fellow /his/torians, redpill me on jewish history (before the roman empire)
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>>2447241
>redpill
Get out.
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>>2447249
???
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>>2447241

fuck off

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