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Were the NEP and the Holodomor linked? I'm thinking that the economic freedom given under the NEP allowed Ukrainian farmers/kulaks to prosper meaning that when Stalin introduced collectivisation, the farmers and kulaks didn't want to give up their farms and opposed collectivisation. Hence why Stalin used food as a weapon and starved the Ukraine (the Holodomor). Are they actually linked or have I misunderstood shit.
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>>2408432
I think it might have been.

>In his book, “Unnatural Deaths in the U.S.S.R.: 1928-1954,” I.G. Dyadkin estimated that the USSR suffered 56 to 62 million "unnatural deaths" during that period, with 34 to 49 million directly linked to Stalin.
>In “Europe A History,” British historian Norman Davies counted 50 million killed between 1924-53, excluding wartime casualties.
>Alexander Nikolaevich Yakovlev, a Soviet politician and historian, estimated 35 million deaths.
>In his acclaimed book “The Great Terror: Stalin’s Purge of the Thirties,” Anglo-American historian Robert Conquest said: “We get a figure of 20 million dead [under Stalin], which is almost certainly too low and might require an increase of 50 percent or so.”
http://www.ibtimes.com/how-many-people-did-joseph-stalin-kill-1111789
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>>2410053
What proof is there of 56 to 62 million "unnatural deaths" in the USSR from 1928 to 1954?

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Find a flaw
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>>2408060
That ring looks pretty gay tbqh
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>>2408060
the resolution is lacking.
Who is that guy? a POTUS?
The flags are ugly and don't match the armchair's color. Why has unknown guy such a big ring? It surely represents loyalty to something other than his office.
I recall an actor of cowboys who became potus. He also was shown with books regularly to leave the impression he was someone who could read.

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When did you realize he is right about everything?
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>>2407876
>Jung
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Why were Germans so autistic about making Berlin the capital of Germany after 1991? Berlin had no significance aside from being capital of the Prussian army, a past Germans were apparently trying to turn away from? There are much more relevant cities to German history, such as Frankfurt which was the capital of the Rhine Confederation and the Deutsches bund? Munich and Düsseldorf have way more culture than Berlin.

And why was Bonn picked as a capital for west Germany? Why not Frankfurt or cologne?
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>>2407765
a) Talk about your own country instead of making assumptions
b) If you have questions, ask without making assumptions
c) German unification in 1871 had Berlin as a capital. A unified Germany needs to have Berlin as a capital. Otherwise it wouldn't be Germany.
d) The Rheinbund was a German vassal state, just as Western germany and the DDR were.
e) Munich and Düsseldorf do not have more culture, they have more clueless tourists
f) Bonn was picked as a temporary Hauptstadt so Adenauer could just hop over the fence to get to work.
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>>2407765
Because there was a group of hardliners trying to mAke Bayreuth the capital. Berlin was the only option that unified enough people to beat Bayreuth
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>>2407792
Bonn is on the left side of the Rhine. The river was the front the western allies thought they could be able to defend in case of an attack by USSR &Co. thru the Fulda gap in a ww3 scenario ...

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How did Goebbliegoo react to Strasser being killed in the night of the long knives, especially since he was a strasserist himself?
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>>2407529
Goebbels must have killed himself in 1945 because he was so strassed out
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He started supporting Hitler before then so he applauded it.
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He was a Strasserist and was mentored by Strasser until he was invited to attend a Hilter Speech in Munich which more or less was Hitler chastised the leftist tendencies of Strasser. Goebbels went in to it thinking Hitler was wrong and left the speech 100% convinced that Hitler was right about everything.

He kept up decent relations with Strasser all the same as they were in the same party after all but by 1930 Goebells was worried about Strasser as he had started his own Newspaper in berlin the National Socialist which was competing with the official party paper and pushing lefty spin on party ideas.

They had a falling out over it and Goebbels would eventually ban the paper.

Strasser eventually threatened to leave the party which would cause a split and total destruction of the NSDAP. The situation worsened in 1932 when Schliecher and Hindenberg offered Hitler the vice-chancellorship. Hitler declined holding out for the Chancellor title.

Strasser thought he was insane to try ask for so much when the VC position was very powerful and a stepping stone to more things.

Hindenberg were aware of the potential rift and decided to offer the position to Strasser in an attempt to split the NSDAP. Strasser left the party after Hilter demanded he refuse the offer.

Basically Joseph had lost faith in Strasser several years before and in his diary he notes that the victims of the purge were planning some kind of second revolution and sadly deserved their fate.

Hitler didn't really include Goebbels in his inner circle at this time on a political level though they were personal friends so its likely Goebbels believed Strasser was plotting something with Rohm. If Rohm was plotting something we'll probably never know.

There is a pretty good biography on Goebbels if you don't have t ime to read his diaries by Peter Longerich.

Longerich is pretty biased against Goebbles but he does cover a lot of good details. .

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What was his endgame?
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Nothing
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Nothing
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his own unique death that nobody could take away from him

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Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that Operation Barbarossa was truly the largest and the final Crusade in the east? Deus Vult.
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>>2407362
>being a textbook polshit
>posting tiny maps

Fucking go back
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>>2407362
>posting thumbnails
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Hitler was a catholic

For example Shirer points to Hitler's speech in the Riechstag in reply to Roosevelt on April 28th 1939 as evidence that Hitler never intended a diplomatic solution to the Danzig Crisis.

Roosevelt had sent a telegram asking Hitler if he had intentions to attack any of a long list of countrys in Europe and abroad. Hitler responded by reaching out to every government in Roosevelt's list asking if they felt threatened in anyway by Germany, they all responded in the negative.

Shirer than points out ominously, Hitler listed every country in Roosevelt's telegram, with the exception of Poland.

Well I happened to watch that speech this evening. And sure enough:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvLO1gpk2rU

>1:44:15

He names Poland and Shirer had lied and to my knowledge nobody has bothered to check and correct it despite this book being the most popular layman's source on Hitler.
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https://youtu.be/SjD9v9H2UrU

Roosevelt was a puppet manipulated by Jews.
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I wish the far right wasn't so completely hung up on the Nazis and fascists, when there's a whole world of potent reactionary philosophy from centuries past.
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>>2407165
this is literally just a critique of Shirer. He was a journalist turned author who's narrative dominates American understanding of the war.

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Are there any good history related meme pages on Facebook? I can't find a good one for the life of me.
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>>2407026
bump
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Rough Roman Memes

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Transubstantiation.

What the fuck? No one here can seriously believe this.
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All good Catholics do. It's based on a metaphysical conception of reality.
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>>2406950
>. It's based on a metaphysical conception of reality.
I think what you meant to say was
>It's based on a made up conception of not reality.

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Where would be a good staring to place to learn about early human history? Gobekli Tepe really interests me, is there a good book to learn about this period of history?
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>>2406915
Why do people ask it like this???

Just go read about it, Google books about it and shit, do your own independent research.

the ENTIRETY OF HUMAN KNOWLEDGEIS AVAILABLE FOR FREE AT YOUR FINGERTIPS but you'd rather be lazy and just come ask people "hurr, what should I read?"

You disgust me.

I hope you step on a snail with your bare feet after waking up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom to take a piss and that there's a snail and your house.
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>>2406935
>Why do people ask it like this???

Because I would like to read a good book instead of shifting through 20 pages of google? Think of it as more asking for book recommendations first before shifting through everything on my own. It's a pretty simple concept to understand you autistic fuck.

Do you think i won't turn to google if I don't get advice from here?

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Catholics will defend this.
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>>2406640

Defended Christendom from Heretics, gays, Jews, and Muslims.

>youre welcome.
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>>2406645
Islam was created by the Vatican.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll0otULYzms
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>>2406677

cool.

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Why do so many people here consider him "based"? I dont know much about him.
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>>2406564
Read The Three Musketeers
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>>2406564
Snappy dresser.

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>mfw every political and revolutionary movement always becomes corrupted by a couple of selfish bad apples

>stalin
>talleyrand
>ribbentrop

etc.
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America you retarded cuck
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>>2406533
That's a fucking massive common denominator and reducing those three to the same group is reducitonist as hell

>Stalin
A psychopathic literal criminal (he was arrested as a youth several times) who grew up despondent

>Talleyrand
An aristocratic, well educated machiavellian realist who did superb handwork on using Napoleon to rejuvenate France when it was necessary

>Ribbentrop
An insecure fuckboy who did more to secure the downfall of Nazi Germany than historians ascribe him
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The liberal revolutions of America and France have been the most corrupt of all.

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Who was in the wrong here?
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>>2405523
the typesetter. Looks horrible. What is the article about?
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>>2405531
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Frank
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>Georgians hated Jews so much they'd even believe a black over him

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