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I am really concerned about Russia and electric cars, /his/.

In the current world order, every big actor has a good reason to keep it going, because everybody is profiting big way. Western Europe and the USA are getting cheap labour and cheap products from 3rd world countries like China, while China is getting access to western markets and technologies. The western nations are still growing despite already having emassed obscene amounts of wealth, while China gets to build and modernize its country.

But this world order is not working for Russia. Russia does not have a competetive economy and all initiatives to make it more competetive have failed. Its economy is being kept afloat by oil- and gas-money, which worked reasonably well from 2000-2008 when oil prices were skyrocket high. But since then oil prices have dropped to below 50$ a barrel and Russia's economy is basically stagnating (sanctions might have added to this, but it's pretty obvious the main reason is the low oil price). Due to this economic crisis Russia is becoming increasingly aggressive.

Now this is where electric cars come in. Elon Musk and his Tesla-cars are potentially the single biggest geopolitical disruptive force this century has seen so far. More than half of the consumed oil is going into transportation, e.g. fuel for your car. Even if just 20 or 30% of the cars 10 years from now are going to be electric, the price for oil will fall so much that it will probably going to ruin the russian economy.

We are already seeing the collapse of governments run by oil money. Libya was not able to cope with the sharp decrease in the oil price following the financial crisis of 2008 and fell into a internal crisis that led to the civil war that ended Gaddafi. Next on the line was Venezuela whose government is currently struggling for survival.
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There are also other countries that might fall. Iran, arabian countries, some african countries,... but those are relatively small and don't hold the potential to disturb the world order.

Russia though is different. They are already in a state where they are dissatisfied with the world order, because it is not working for them. While every other big actor is growing, expanding and developing, Russia is not. Now add to that that Russia might face a real existential crisis due to the electric car imploding oil prices, and you end up with the most dangerous scenario for the 21st century.

Russia has a huge nuclear arsenal and the second most powerful military in the world. It is also in a geographic position where it could invade western europe realtively easily. So what is going to happen, when 10 years from now Tesla cars took off, 20% of the global cars are already electric, and the oil price is below 5$ a barrel? The russian economy will look like Venezuela's right now, or like Libya's shortly before civil war broke out. So what is Putin, whom I assume will still be in power 10 years from now, do in that situation? Will he try to use Russia's only threat, it's military and nuclear might, to secure Russia's position in the world by trying to invade europe, or will he just accept that Russia is fading into irrelevancy, and potentially civil war?

Also, what if the Kremlin is already anticipating these developments, and they have decided to take action now. What if things like Brexit, the election of Trump, the "sudden" leaps in north korean ICMB technologies are all due to Russia trying to end a world order, that is already not working for them, and that is threatening to fully destroy it? They could try to lure in america into a big war in Korea, hoping it will bankrupt the USA and further divide the NATO.
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>>3332263
>being afraid of electric cars
Are you scared of being turned straight by accident, OP?
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>>3332261
Musk is a small, irrelevant player in the electric cars market. The traditional car manufacturers will usher the electric cars age in.

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I found a sculpture that looks like this.
It intrigued me, - from what era it might be ? what does it represent ?
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>God tier :

Seekers
Muggletonians
Ranters

>Great Tier :

Ultracalvinists
Circumcellions

>Good Tier :

Waldisians
Lollards
Hussities
Puritans

>Okay (needs resuscitation) Tier :

Anglicanism

>LARP Tier :

Orthodoxy in the west

>"My only justification is that I was born into it." Tier

Orthodoxy in orthodox countries.

>Institutionalised sexual abuse, the whore, Tier :

Catholicism and Popishness et al
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>>3331272
What about Quakers and Levellers?
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>>3331272
Is this a genuine list of Christian sects or is it a list of factions in a fantasy novel?
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>>3331272
>implying the "eastern orthodox" aren't really just part of the same whorish church as the "catholics", equally corrupt and enslaved by temporal concerns

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How long was it before you realized you loved this historian ?
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pretty sure that guy is just an actor reading a script

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Why didn't Liz just deport her?
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>>3331064
Have you seen Rome?

When Ceaser says "They could tie Pompeii to a horse and people would follow him"

Its one of those cases

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Daily reminder Oliver Cromwell did nothing wrong.
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bump

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Captain Morgan I'm MAS
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What caused so much civil strife in many Western and Western like countries in the 1970's?
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drugs and rising urban populations
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(((them)))
For France and the US at least

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What are your favorite historical topics fellow /his/torians?

Mine are:
>Ancient History
>Modern History
>WW2
>Luftwaffe autism

I don't care as much for Medieval history but it's nice too.
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Tell me about Exodus /his/.
Did it happen?
if it didn't should Moses be considered a false prophet?
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>>3330423
No, Egypt is a stand in for any totalitarian corrupt state.
At best, the Israelites were nomadic Canaanites who constantly got their ass kicked until Babylon steam rolled the other Canaanite cities
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>>3330423
Moses was made up along with the exodus

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What was the relationship between the Organisation of Ukrainian Nationalists, and the Nazis?
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>>3330370
Both were nationalists

/thread
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>>3330370
Germany planned to start Ukrainain uprising in Poland but after R&M pact they stopped supporting them. After German-Soviet war started many Ukrainians joined police force in occupied Ukraine. In the meantime Bandera(leader of OUN-B) was arrested by Germans and sent to Sachsenhausen concentration camp. After Stalingrad, Ukrainian nationalists noticed that Germans will lose the war and they need to prepare themselves for new Soviet rule. Many of them left police force ,stealing guns and ammunition, and formed militia groups fighting against Germans and Soviet partisans. They also committed mass genocide on Poles, Jews, Russians and Belarusians.

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I always come back to this video, HD footage of Tokyo in 1992 (so hey, 25-year rule counts).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJQsGpCDX54

There's also the footage of Berlin in the twilight of the Kaiserreich.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-m9A8mY-U0

Anyone have any more videos like this? Cool videos just showing off life in cities/places at the turn of the century and beyond? Here's another one of Tokyo in 1913 and 1915.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYOGClmmeao
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>>3330366
Lol was this some early HD showcase. The clarity really brings the past back to life.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5puwTrLRhmw

Here's a Coolidge speech.
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>>3330366
good idea for a thread!
Possibly you'll get better replies on >>>/wsg/, not sure though.
Here's a great Youtube channel with many color videos from WWII:
https://www.youtube.com/user/UnknownWW2InColor

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Not all heroes wear capes
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But they do wear caps.
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>>3330352
Boy, did they love those caps.

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Can someone explain to me why the middle east is the way it is? Surely it cant just be because of islam. Or is it? Can someone also explain the arab spring, wahhabism and the pashtuns? Im sorry english isnt my first language.
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It is the way it is because of circumstances it found itself in.
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>>3330202
>Can someone explain to me why the middle east is the way it is?
What do you mean?
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>>3330214
Its generally considered a bad place right now but it wasnt always this way no? Was iran and other middle eastern nations very good at one point? Before the 80's?

Who was in the wrong here?
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>>3330101
Iraq for being the aggressor.

The revolution for gutting Iran's military completely and denying Iran complete victory.
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>>3330101
>Iraq initially sought accommodation with Iran after the Shah's departure.
>Tehran broadcast calls for the overthrow of Saddam's regime.
>Iraq did not begin to mobilize it's troops until after Iranian shelling
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90T00114R000700730002-0.pdf
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>>3330111
>first post
>best post
>trips

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