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Are they closest to the Hebrews of all current Jews?
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>>2676976
Yes.
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>>2676986

But are they White?
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http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1003316

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Is there something like classical music in eastern history ?

And I dont mean traditional music, I mean like Bach, Mozart, Haydn, etc.
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>>2676883
Indian Classical Music is more theoretically complex than most of the western canon. The focus is moved from the composer to the musician who improvises using formal melodic structures and is generally religious in nature.

It's also worth noting that most western classical is tarted up folk dances and flashy medlys for easily entertained bougies.
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>>2676993
>Bach
>less complex
No.
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>>2676993
what about east asia ?

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Anon who wanted help on Coptic nation, here are the notes I have for you, posting here as you didnt respond on /gsg/
>effect of the Muslim conquests was to protect and preserve a considerable variety of Christian heresies.
>Islam was the revealed and perfected faith, as long as Jews and Christians submitted to Muslim rule and paid their taxes they were permitted to conduct their own affairs according to their own laws, customs and beliefs.
>Christian heresy, according to Rome and Constantinople, flourished in the middle east under Muslim rule, heretic Christians were now freed from persecution by rival Christians or the state.
>Council of Chalcedon in 451, majority decided that Jesus had two natures, the human and the divine, adding that these were unmixed unchangeable, but at the same time indistinguishable and inseparable.
>View of most Christian churches to this day but members of the Syrian church known as Jacobites, and Egyptian church known as the Copts, while not denying the two natures, put emphasis on their unity at the incarnation, when Jesus appeared in Mary. For this the Syrians and Egyptians were called monphistes, Greek for single nature, and were charged with the heretical belief that Jesus’s human nature had been entirely absorbed in the divine.
>Disputes affected by shades of language and culture, but certainly they had a divisive effect within the byzantine empire ad helped prepare the easy for the coming of Islam. As one figure of the Jacobite church said of the Muslim conquest ‘the god of vengeance delivered us out of the hands of the romans by means of the Arabs. It profited us not a little to be saved from the cruelty of the romans and their bitter hatred towards us
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>>2676854
>Until the middle of the eight centuries, Damascus was the capital of the Umayyad caliphate, largely administrated by Syrians
>Uprisings against the Arabs throughout empire, Egypt had fallen from 3 million to less than 1.5 million Egyptians, by 1000 AD from Roman rule to Arab occupation
>Muslim discrimination and oppressive taxation stroked resentment among Copts, whose pride was wounded by coming of Arabs, continuous infiltration by nomads, repeated Coptic revolts suppressed with bloodshed.
>Many Copts convert to Islam after 832 due to irrigation system falling into disrepair making them unable to pay taxes, more and more migrated to towns leaving fields uncultivated. Not until the 1th century did the majority of Egyptians finally adopt Islam
>The decline of Syria’s population led to a decline in its prosperity, subsequently leading Arab to become the majority language not Aramaic, leading to some sirens revolting, immigration from Arabia also led to Arabisation
>Fatimid’s were arabs from Syria, walked around north Africa, who settled in Egypt, establishing Shiite caliphate in 969, based around Cairo
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>>2676860
>Around the turn of the 4th century, as Memphis was continuing to decline in importance the Romans established a fortress town along the east bank of the Nile. This fortress, known as Babylon, remained the nucleus of the Roman, and, later, the Byzantine, city and is the oldest structure in the city today. It is also situated at the nucleus of the Coptic Orthodox community, which separated from the Roman and Byzantine church in the late 4th century. Many of Cairo's oldest Coptic churches, including the hanging church , are located along the fortress walls in a section of the city known as Coptic cairo
>Mamelukes were kipcak Turks or whites from the Russian steppe originally. Purchased as mercs for a sultan, who’s slave wife made herself sultan, then betrayed by her mameluke mercs who made their commander sultan the succession followed from there
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>>2676854
I'm surprised to find someone helping someone else for the hell of it on 4chan

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How did republican romans feel about decency and modesty? Did nudity have a religious reason to be discouraged?
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>>2676697
I don't think you'd care about decency and modesty beyond simple taste if you literally have Carthaginian loli sex slaves.
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>>2676697
Read about the rape of lucretia, severitas was a big deal for early romans.
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>>2676721
Patricians were prudish as fuck during the Republic

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such amazing conquerors, i mean look at what they were able to achieve

a warrior culture?
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>>2676674
A combination of genetics, culture and geography. Nothing else.
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>white race

You mean iberians?
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guns

What do you think about the Doctor's Plot?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctors%27_plot

Just weeks before his death, Stalin claimed Israel was trying to poison him.

After he died, the case was immediately dropped and the documents mysteriously disappeared.

Was this just another coincidence?

How could the Zionists take out the one man who saved them from Hitler?
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Stalin was jewish himself.
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>>2676629
>Why would Jews kill someone who hated religion on principal.

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Can some explain Juche to me? I find it very difficult to understand. Most ideologies can be summarized, but I find it hard to do with the Juche ideology. Is it just a "false" ideology? Please enlighten me if possible.
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It's basically extreme self-reliance in all things, combined with collecrivization. It's incredibly retarded.
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>>2677761
Specialization has so many benefits, what is their trade off?
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What is hard to understand?

Authoritarian Autarky dressed up as a variant of Marxism.

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Tell me about Khazaria. Are the European Jews descendants of them or did they come from Palestine?
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No, Karaites are the descendants of Khazars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Karaites .
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>>2676495
Pavić stated that the Khazars were a metaphor for a small people surviving in between great powers and great religions. In Yugoslavia, Serbs recognized their own fate; it was the same in Slovenia and elsewhere, a schoolbook on survival. The same in Hungary and Czechoslovakia, and on and on. A French critic said, 'We are all Khazars in the age of nuclear threat and poisoned environment.'[5]
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>>2676516
This


>>2676495
The Khazars never followed judaism it's a meme created by the Rabbis(see Kuzari)

In the first place the Jews were never proselyte, unlike the Karaites and the Sadduceans

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Did the Mongolian Empire do anything good for the world, or are they just a bunch of murdering hobos?
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This might sound extremely euro-centric but they "re-opened" the Silk Road and Asian trade with Europe, so it can be reasonable assumed they introduced(or at least introduced the vector for) the Black Death to West.
That helped develop certain immune systems and genetic dispositions towards it, and (sooner or later) Europe learned that "hey maybe it helps if we dont have shit everywhere"

They also killed like 40 million people in the day of swords and arrows so that's cool too
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>>2676459
Brought plague faster and to newer areas.
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No.

>Religious freedom
Killing everyone and allowing them to be buried however they want is hardly religious freedom. Besides, they were just apathetic most of the time, not purposely tolerant. They wiped out religious sects that opposed them and murdered the Caliph of Baghdad. What freedom did exist either already existed (in China) or was revoked when Mongol rulers started converting.

>trade
Not much trade when sedentary society is destroyed. The Mongols caused economic collapse where they ruled due to destructive land and taxation policies, population decline and the destruction of cities. Opening up trade routes, which already existed anyway, didn't do much to fix this.

>Technology
There's no solid evidence that the Mongols actually used gunpowder outside of China, so they can't really be credited with its spread. They did introduce the counterweight trebuchet to China, but so what?

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In hindsight, is the founding of America the worst thing that ever happened to humanity in its history?
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>>2676455
No
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yeah
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>>2676455
No

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Was Manifest Destiny justified?
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>>2676353
No more or less than any other colonial action.
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>>2676353
America brought civilization and prosperity to the land
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>>2676353
Does it really matter now?

>Nor is it any longer possible for you to give up this empire … Your empire is now like a tyranny: it may have been wrong to take it; it is certainly dangerous to let it go.

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Are PMCs ethical or not?
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No more or less than any other kind of paid soldiers, surely?
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>>2676282
Totally.
A nation has to pay regular soldiers wages, so it's literally no different.

>inb4 war crimes
There's no such thing as a war crime.

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>Removing major historical events to make my shit country look good on world stage*
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>>2676277
GENOCIDE? WHAT GENOCIDE? I DIDN'T SEE ANY GENOCIDE.
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>>2676277
Have some examples?
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>>2676277
My country doesn't do that.

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Was there ever a war or conflict where America was utterly spanked, with much bigger casualities than their enemies? When it comes to battles, there's Pearl Harbor for example, and they lost some wars already, although with enemy taking some heavy losses. I am fucking curious because every time I read about a conflict where America participates, they're almost always doing better than the rest.
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>>2676226
No. While there are wars the American's don't really "win" (Vietnam), the US has always been good at killing their enemies.
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No, but you must remember what the US hasn't been invaded in the last 200 years and is geographically removed from all theaters of war, so it can bid its time and choose which battles to fight. Most countries don't have this privilege.
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>>2676226
Brits outkilled us during the revolution of 1776.

What was his problem?
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>>2676165
Showed the Romans that they shouldn't relax with the northern barbarians.
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>>2676853
What did he mean by this?
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>>2676165
Bump

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