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How important was the 710 Siege of Constantinople in European history, is it a bigger deal then Tours?
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>>2701158
Tours is literally the most overrated battle in history (repelling a raid ----> "OMG PREVENTED ALL OF EUROPE FROM BECOMING MUSLIM"), so yes.
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>>2701159
It's undeniable Tours is "overrated" as the umayyads were far more focused on the byzantine, but at the same time they did conquer spain and if they hadn't been checked in france they probably would have carried on expanding. Therefore it is logically of larger significance to the europeans than it would be to the muslims.
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>Byzantine falls
>suddenly East Europe is muslim
>fuckers cockblock the silk road
>Venice dies due to blocked trade slowly ending the renaissance
>Portugal and Spain has to find new route causes the age of discovery jump starting the Euro domination
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Why are people like him (or Ben Bella in Algeria and Agostinho Neto in Angola) never considered racist even though he oversaw the deportation of hundreds of thousands of foreigners in the name of a nationalist ideology fueled by xenophobia of countryside against more cosmopolitan cities, while merely trying to prevent immigration in the West is considered Hitlerism?
It seems like the dominant mentality accepts the right of Arabs and Africans to expel anyone they want, but everyone else must accept Arabs and Africans in their countries or else be called racist.
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>>2701146
Since when is Nasser not considered a racist? Few people who even know who he is would call him not-racist. I think you're just making up a strawman.
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>>2701146
Racism of low expectations tbqh
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>>2701146
Who did he expel? Jews?
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how does one educate themselves?
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Read, read, read. You may watch videos and listen to podcasts, but in the end nothing will replace reading. It's good for the brain, too.
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think
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Memes
Why is it that whenever Balkanites write about any old engagement with the Turks, from a border skirmish to an Ottoman ambush of a Balkan militia to a raid, it always somehow involves tens to hundreds of thousands of Turks?
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>>2701072
Because only Russians can compare to the zerg rushing prowess of the Turks.
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>>2701085
Maybe the Balkanites were just exaggerating?
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>>2701072
Inflating numbers to make your opponents seem scarier and your own armies seem more impressive is hardly unique to any one culture or group.
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Is based Prussia responsible for commies existing?
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IF you mean Germany then yes, probably the single biggest cause.
1. Birthed Marx
2. WW1 instability toppled the Tsar
3. Shipped Lenin into Russia like a poison dart
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Germans are responsible for literally everything bad in the world.
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>>2700973
(((((Prussia)))))
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Why is western culture said to be "Judeo-Christian" when it was built basically by the Christian part? Is it as a show of friendship to Israel?
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>>2700955
to accept the old testimate as legitimate we also accept that we are gods chosen people
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>>2700955
Jews have significantly contributed to the culture of European civilization, perhaps disproportionately to the locals themselves at least in the past few hundred years.
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>>2700955
because Jews are the kind of parasite that takes credit for other people's achievements
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Great Generals thread anyone?
Rate, Criticise, share whatever.
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>>2700903
He did it before it was cool.
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93% success rate
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>The Imperial Japanese Army positions on the island were heavily fortified, with a dense network of bunkers, hidden artillery positions, and 18 km (11 mi) of underground tunnels.[8][9] The American ground forces were supported by extensive naval artillery, and had complete air supremacy provided by U.S. Navy and Marine Corps aviators throughout the entire battle.[10]
>Japanese combat deaths numbered three times the number of American deaths, although uniquely among Pacific War Marine battles, American total casualties (dead and wounded) exceeded those of the Japanese.[11] Of the 21,000 Japanese soldiers on Iwo Jima at the beginning of the battle, only 216 were taken prisoner, some of whom were captured because they had been knocked unconscious or otherwise disabled.[1] The majority of the remainder were killed in action, although it has been estimated that as many as 3,000 continued to resist within the various cave systems for many days afterwards, eventually succumbing to their injuries or surrendering weeks later.[1][12]
>Despite the bloody fighting and severe casualties on both sides, the Japanese defeat was assured from the start. Overwhelming American superiority in arms and numbers as well as almost complete control of air power—coupled with the impossibility of Japanese retreat or reinforcement, along with sparse food and supplies—permitted no plausible circumstance in which the Americans could have lost the battle
>The Japamerican citizens fighting for America were also the most decorated soldiers in US history for their performance in war
Excluding equipment, resources and physical abilities, what soldiers have had a fighting spirit even close to wartime Japanese? Only one that comes close is the Spartans I think.
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>>2700819
The Knights Hospitaler in the 1565 Great Siege of Malta.
They endured almost four months of artillery bombardment and were ultimately victorious despite being outnumbered six-to-one by the Ottomans.
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Japanese in WW2 are overrated.
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>>2700866
Great. The kd kiddies are back.
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how do you think 4chan or internet culture in general will be portrayed in history books?
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>>2700693
Probably as a new way corporations used advertising, or as extensive propaganda campaigns.
I doubt anyone outside the present can truly understand memes, just like old people they'll question it's use and be disappointed when they find none.
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>>2700723
Surely future historians would have a field day with internet culture?
If we discovered that they had proto-memes in the 16th century, we would be able to better understand society and culture during that time than we ever have.
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In school history books it will probably be ignored.
But in universities it will ne studied as true representation of what people felt.
Memes will probably explain the cultural tendencies of the diferent societies.
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Why is the fall of constantinople considered one of the most important events in history?
can you give me a rundown on what it changed and lead to
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It shows that the Roman Empire was so influential, a branch remained intact for a millenium.
The Turks also used their newfound gunpowder against Europeans.
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>>2700662
It marked the end of Rome and its legacy
Also many Greek scholars left the city after the Turks took over it and contributed in kickstarting the Rennaissance
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>>2700662
Ended the dark ages
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Teddy Roosevelt called cubism and neo-impressionism alike "the lunatic fringe." Was he right? If not, what makes artists like Picasso so special?
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Yes. Picasso is a meme.
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Picasso's art is highly expressive, and in fact you don't need to be a pretentious intellectual to feel what his paintings are trying to say. If you see his Guernica you see clearly in all its chaos the suffering and despair of war.
The same can't be said about other modern art styles.
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>>2700588
Woah, I didn't know that Teddy Roosevelt was an art critic, TIL
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Theology student here looking for advice regarding Anglicanism. I want to learn more about Anglicans but I'm confused about which version of the Book of Common Prayer to buy.
Since I'm an Americlap there are only BCP books from the Episcopal Church for sale near me. What edition does the Church of England use and what edition would a British Anglican use?
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any Anglicans in here?
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>>2700562
>Anglicanism
>2017
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>>2700562
>Theology student here
t. future barista
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If it hadn't happened, could the Byzantines have fought off the Turks?
Also, more generally, what was the reaction of the Catholic Church to the fall of Constantinople? Were Westerners concerned and were there any movements to reclaim it?
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>If it hadn't happened, could the Byzantines have fought off the Turks?
Doubtfully
>Were Westerners concerned and were there any movements to reclaim it?
Yes, after the Bulgars slaughtered the majority of the forth crusade leaders between 1205-1207. Pope Innocent III engaged in yet another streak of communications with the Bulgar ruler sort of playing nice and giving him an imperial crown to appease him and stop him from forming an alliance with the Byzantines.
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>>2700648
What was Bulgaria's policy towards the Byzantine Empire? Would they have defended them like in 717, if they didn't get have the internal strife that split their country into three kingdoms?
And why would have the Byzantines lost if they didn't get sacked? Before the Fourth Crusade they were still relatively rich and powerful while the Ottomans were still trying to consolidate their gains.
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>>2700887
Bulgarian here, never, EVER trust the eternal B*zantian
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How do Protestants defend the fact that there are literally hundreds of different Protestant and reformed churches that all believe different things?
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>>2700338
We need not to defend it. People see god in many way, hence the creation of differant churches.
Now let me ask. How do catholics live with a KEKED pope?
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>>2700338
Protestants is just a general term for christian but not catholic. It's like asking white people to defend why so many different white nations exist.
Also pic related never intended any of that, he just wanted everyone to be able to read the bible by translating it.
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They don't. Like all Christians, they believe almost all Christians are servants of satan.
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What the fuck were they thinking? 2017-04-22 05:25:17 Post No.2700195
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What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>2700195
AESTHETICS
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fascists are sisies
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>>2700207
In fact, you could even call them si sis!