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Apparently Japanese and Korean are more related to Turkish than they are to Chinese?

Also, apparently Hindi is closer related to English than it is to Telugu/South Indian Sanskrit languages?

Can someone list/explain the major language groups?

I pretty much only know about Proto-Indo-European (like Latin, Greek, Sanskrit) and a little bit about Sino-Tibetian (Chinese/Mongolian?)
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PIE root........English........Sanskrit........Lithuanian........Kurdish........Russian........Latin.....
h1nómn̥.........name...........naman...................................nav................imya.............nomine
wiHrós..........man.............vīra................vyras................mirov.................................vir..........
gʷḗn..............woman........jani.........................................jin............... ..zhen..........................
bʰréh2tēr.......brother.........bhrātṛ............brolis................bira.............. .brat.............frāter....
dʰugh2tḗr......daughter......duhitṛ............dukra................dot.................doch.........................
pula-..............hair..............pula...............plaukai.............por.....................................pilus.....
h3bʰrúHs.......brow............bhrû...............bruvis...............birû...............brov...........................
leb-................lip.......................................lūpa..................lêv................lobzat...........labium...
ǵʰes-.............hand.............hasta............žastas..............dest...................................praesto..
h3enogʰ-.......nail............... nakha...........nagas...............nenûk............nogot........................
pṓds.............foot...............pāda.............pėda.................pê..................pesij.............pedibus
h3ésth1..........bone.............asthi......................................hestî...............kost.............ossis.....
mosgo..........brain............majjan...........smegenys........mejî...............mozg........................
h2stḗr.............star..............taras.......................................stêr....................................stella....
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Japanese and Korean are not related; refer to Alexander Vovin's recent work, especially his 2009 book: http://www.uhpress.hawaii.edu/p-9780824832780.aspx

Mongolian is not Sino-Tibetan, the only larger genetic relation proposed so far for the Mongolic dialect cluster is Altaic, a hypothesis which has been disproven over and over for about a century.

The largest language families accepted by most people other than IE are Sino-Tibetan, Niger-Congo, Austronesian, Afro-Asiatic, Pama-Nyungan, and Trans-New Guinea (in no particular order). Other families are a little smaller
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>>3392951
>Apparently Japanese and Korean are more related to Turkish than they are to Chinese?
No one actually believes this.
But it is true that Japanese and Korean are not related to any of the Chinese languages except for borrowed vocabulary.

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Just went to my first, and I wonder what /his/ has to say about them.
Personally, it was fun, but I expected to see more Renaissance themed costumes than I did.
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>>3392885
When people not in renaissance themes showed up, I went. "Meh, whatevs. Its just a historically themed costume party."

When the LARPers, the Goths, and the Pagans, and Cosplayers showed up, I saw no point to calling them Renaissance Fairs.
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>>3392922
I agree, that was kind of disappointing. But the costumes were still pretty cool. Even if the high fantasy fools were clearly at the wrong meeting. The lack of ... purity in costumes might have had something to do with the fact that the fair was hosted by a LARPing group.
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>>3392922
What sort of cosplay would you consider acceptable at a fair? Martin Luther, maybe? I admit, if I had the resources, were much taller, and a bit more English looking, I would consider dressing up as Solomon Kane.

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Are there any unbiased books/documentaries that talk about the crusades?
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>>3392836
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0zudTQelzI
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>>3392836
I'm in the middle of The Crusades by Micheal Asbridge and its a pretty even look. The book switches back and forth Christian and Muslim perspectives. During the former you think "Yes, slay the pagan and secure the future of Outremer for Christendom!" and during the Muslim portions you think "Yes, slay the polytheists and secure the Sunni ummah!"

The big revelation for me, personally, is how big of underdogs the crusaders were. That doesn't mean that all their massacres of arabs/semites were cool or justified as /pol/ would tell you, but they were always in way over their heads and were only succeeded through a mix of ballsiness and luck. Capturing the holy land is one thing, the real miracle is holding it for over a hundred years when you're outnumbered by muslims in the tens of thousands.

Also, the muslims are divided. All the factions in Islam right during the period- Abassid, Fatimid, Zangid, Ayyubid, etc. view the crusaders more as a nuisance than anything. All of the different warlords and empires are more set on countering each other than dealing with the dirty, uneducated whites. Some even ally with the crusader states if it means furthering their own goals

Point is, its a fascinating subject, but its impossible to have a discussion about it online without people devolving into whites are the devil/arabs are the devil.

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How was Britain supposed to defend Singapore when there's no fresh water?
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>>3392812
i'm sure they had water supplies and were hoping for RN to breakthrough the IJN blockade to bring more of them
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>>3392832
>i'm sure they had water supplies
There was a million people packed into the city, most of them refugees.

>were hoping for RN to breakthrough the IJN blockade to bring more of them
RN sent a token force that got BTFO.
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>>3393003
well, no one said they were smart but I think that was the initial plan
bear in mind that they heavily underestimated Japanese capabilities

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Which country is the most bullied in history
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Poland or some Balkan state.
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Unironically
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>>3392811
Pooland

I remember being taught in school that he died by choking on his own vomit after a night of particurally rough drinking.

But I can't find anything online that backs this claim up. Could there be any truth to this claim?
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>>3392799
That was Atilla the Hun.
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>>3392803
Fug I'm a fool
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>>3392815
And it wasn't choking, he died of a nosebleed after wrestling with the bros

Anyone else thinking of getting this?
I didn't back the kickstarter but I might buy it after it is released, not sure yet.

Of course it'll never be as substantive as a real book on the subject, but it is a really cool period and will be nice to have something visual.
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>>3392783
Nope. I don't want it to do to the Second Punic War what 300 did to the Greco-Persian wars in popular culture.
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>>3393013
300's (graphic novel) been bastardized and misunderstood. The sensational stuff was clearly meant to be the embellishments of the Greek narrator. The sheer number of people who don't seem to get this really rustles my jimmies.
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>>3392783
Fuck Lindybeige.

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>watching a random video /his/-related
>EVERY TIME the presenter has to sneak in some snarky comment about drumpfie
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>>3392772
have you tried reading an actual book?
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>>3392797

you know you can do both right

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It will be 100 years this October since Russia has suffered a dramatic civil and cultural downfall. The lesson is: never postpone refoms under any circumstances.
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>>3392705
The lesson is: kill all unreliable faggots
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>dramatic civil and cultural downfall
No, just a return to the norm

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>Nobunaga was said to have acted outrageously during Oda Nobuhide's funeral
>throwing ceremonial incense at the altar
>Hirate Masahide, a valuable mentor and retainer to Nobunaga, was ashamed by Nobunaga's behavior and performed seppuku
Why were the Japs so autistic about killing themselves
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>>3392675
at least they had the decency to understand when they had to fuck off
and some romans too did that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism
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>>3392675
Suicide is cowardly
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Well at least Nobunaga himself was less autistic about traditions and triggered half the country.
Frequently literally.

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