[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Search | Free Show | Home]

Archived threads in /his/ - History & Humanities - 1020. page

This is a blue board which means that it's for everybody (Safe For Work content only). If you see any adult content, please report it.

File: CSA rally.jpg (209KB, 1484x1113px) Image search: [Google]
CSA rally.jpg
209KB, 1484x1113px
Why didn't the union "deconfederate" the south like they denazified Germany?
15 posts and 2 images submitted.
>>
They freed the slaves and made sure they could vote. They wiped out the KKK. What more do you want?
>>
>>2830963
That's what "Reconstruction" was.
>>
>>2830963

Yankees were niggerloving cucks and couldn't compete with the BDC

File: regionsofeurope.jpg (377KB, 1944x2244px) Image search: [Google]
regionsofeurope.jpg
377KB, 1944x2244px
Is this accurate?
73 posts and 16 images submitted.
>>
>>2830875
In my opinion, no, too many of those countries have nothing in common with one another.
>>
>>2830877
Which ones?
>>
File: brexit.jpg (26KB, 392x395px) Image search: [Google]
brexit.jpg
26KB, 392x395px
>>2830875
Hope this helps you on your quest for knowledge, OP

File: his suffering chart.png (549KB, 2199x2163px) Image search: [Google]
his suffering chart.png
549KB, 2199x2163px
Help me fill this up, /his/.
365 posts and 65 images submitted.
>>
>>2830497
Move Stalin over to (90,10)
Mohammad could be somewhere around (70,40)
Albert Speer (60,15)
Nicholas II (50, 85)
>>
Giordano Bruno (20,40)
>>
>>2830497
Who's (0,0)?

File: 135061831894.jpg (139KB, 1021x1440px) Image search: [Google]
135061831894.jpg
139KB, 1021x1440px
What was this guy's name again?
15 posts and 2 images submitted.
>>
>>2830173
Pukov
>>
>>2830173
Humanwavich
>>
Georgy Zhukov

File: abrazo 2.jpg (391KB, 714x502px) Image search: [Google]
abrazo 2.jpg
391KB, 714x502px
Are there any other historians around here? I think it's common knowledge for us that History as a discipline and knowledge (with the rest of humanities) is in a deep worldwide crisis. We have many high ranking historians like Gumbrecht (who I don't like at all) promulgating that History as a practical knowledge is useless and there should only be in the Universities a very, very small number of philosophers and historians, closing the spread of the knowledge even further than it currently is; in other words, the spread of this knowledge and its functions (critical thought, social cohesion, cultural understanding) shouldn't even be considered as part of the historian's job. This is one of his main solutions to solve History's crisis and is a very popular perspective, which I hate.

In other words, do you agree with Gumbrecht? Do you disagree? Have you even heard about this? In my personal and professional opinion, the job of the historian is to find new methods to bring a historical thought to the masses, to make the people critical of their world, government, religions, corporations, social and cultural struggles, etc. This way, it'd be a lot more difficult to control them and they could choose the options that'd benefit them a lot more, instead of other people. And that's what I've been trying to do but, well, it's pretty hard when the masses don't think that History has any function besides "boring dates and names."

Nevertheless, I'm still trying to give my best with this perspective I have of History.

Pic kind of related, it's one of Mexico's biggest historical traumas, together with the American intervention of 1846.
52 posts and 5 images submitted.
>>
I only dabbled in history as an undergraduate, so I don't really have a professional opinion. It's always been a personal interest of mine. I'm not really privy to the issues of professional historians and so forth and I've never heard of Gumbrecht before, but from your explanation it sounds like he's something of an academic purist. Would that be accurate? It sounds like wants historians to become akin to monks sequestered in their abbey, minimizing contact with the laypeople so they can remain focused on their calling. If I base my understanding of the issue off of that analogy I can understand the merits of his argument, but if I'm wrong I'd like to know in greater detail what exactly he's in favor of.

It's so rare to get real, professional discussion on this board.
>>
>>2829894
I'm a recent history graduate specializing in modern history at Oxford. And I can tell you the state of history as a discipline is complete shit.

I shit you not, every fucking woman currently graduating wrote a dissertation on feminism or gender perspectives. Objective, unbiased research is dead. And most publications outside academia are just vulgarized, commercial and simplified pieces of sensationalized shit
>>
>>2830004
In more or less words, you could say that. Gumbrecht is a Historian currently at the University of Standford and if you can find the speech he give in one of this visits at the University of Osnabrük in Germany, then you can make yourself an idea of what he wants about History and Humanities, less budget for humanities and more complex thought among fewer historians/philosophers.

>>2830027
Objective unbiased research? Well, I can tell you that objective History has never existed. Sure, you have attempts like Positivism in the XIX century and Historical Materialism, or the first generations of L'école des Annales, but if the 1968 experience taught us with Hayden White, Michel Foucault, Michel de Certau and Paul Veyne, is that history cannot be objective, at most impartial, and it is written from a specific point of time by a specific human being, the historian, who writes based on his personal experiences, cosmovision, social class and other variables that make is work more of an interpretation of History.

File: Ottomans pre-post WWI.png (199KB, 564x331px) Image search: [Google]
Ottomans pre-post WWI.png
199KB, 564x331px
The Turks have a long history of genociding other cultures (see: Assyrian, Greek, Armenian genocides). Even so, there was a sizable Greek population in Western Anatolia near the end of WWI. The Ottomans tried to genocide them...

So my question is: Why weren't the Allies more punitive/aggressive against the Ottomans after WWI? Why not give Thrace/Smyrna/Nikaea/Constantinople (western Anatolia) BACK to the Greeks?

This seems like one of the major errors in world history, in my view. Such a decision may have caused Turkey to insert themselves into WWII... but wouldn't that part of the world be a better, safer place if Western Anatolia were under Greek control?

In retrospect... the Ottomans got away with a lot re: Sykes-Picot... and the heirs of the Ottoman Empire (the Turks) continue to get away with horrible things (see: Kurd relations).

So what the heck happened here? Why did this fall apart? Would everything be different had Greece joined the Allies?
13 posts and 2 images submitted.
>>
>>2829804
Fear of Russia and cucking for the little guy (Turkey)

/thread
>>
>>2829804
Except for a small bit of the western Anatolian coast (modern day İzmir Province), all that area was majority Turkish in 1920 and had been for hundreds of years prior. As well as a central part of the Turkish state for hundreds of years. Including Istanbul and East Thrace. Not that the Allies cared much, they supported the Greeks solving that problem via genocide/ethnic cleansing. The Greeks just lost the war despite lots of help and a massive advantage in every area of materiel because the Turks are just smarter fighters than them.

After that point trying to propose to the British or French "hey guys why don't you March hundreds of thousands of troops into bumfuck nowhere and ethnically cleanse it while suffering tens of thousands [minimum] more deaths yourself just to hand it to the Greeks at the end" would just get you laughed at.
>>
>>2829804
They tried but got BTFO. Just like how today American protesters get BTFO in their own country and Turks get away with it. Turks are the strongest race in the world

File: IMG_5953.jpg (172KB, 957x627px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_5953.jpg
172KB, 957x627px
LOL
92 posts and 24 images submitted.
>>
>>2829728
Islam is a cancer
>>
File: war.png (323KB, 680x425px) Image search: [Google]
war.png
323KB, 680x425px
>>2829728
>>
File: twin towers.jpg (105KB, 667x961px) Image search: [Google]
twin towers.jpg
105KB, 667x961px
>>2829728
LMAO

File: IMG_0086.png (51KB, 657x527px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_0086.png
51KB, 657x527px
/his/, how do we stop ISIS from blowing up archaeological artifacts?
16 posts and 7 images submitted.
>>
File: 35d45d9c5073636ef947a837de167844.jpg (276KB, 1280x795px) Image search: [Google]
35d45d9c5073636ef947a837de167844.jpg
276KB, 1280x795px
>>
>>2829646
Kill them dead.
>>
>>2829658
I actually trust Russia's army more than the American army because America had no regard for ancient sites when they were in Iraq. Would never let them near anything. I hate my own army so much...

File: Holodomor.jpg (93KB, 650x471px) Image search: [Google]
Holodomor.jpg
93KB, 650x471px
Can someone explain what happened without propaganda and shill from both tankies or nazis?
63 posts and 13 images submitted.
>>
>>2829552
A part of the Soviet famine of 1932–33 which struck everywhere and everyone in the Soviet Union.

Ukrainians keep insisting only they suffered in the Famine ignoring the Suffering and Plight of the other soviet States.
>>
>>2829684
He said he didn't want tankie propaganda.
>>
>>2829552

The very basic summary is that the Holodomor was an artifical famine that killed anywhere between 3 to 12 million people. This range is extremely wide because accurate census data from the period is very hard to come by. The thing about a planned economy is that there are planned goals, and extreme (often fatal) pressure to reach those goals, including simply fudging the data if said goal is not reached.

This specifically pertains to the Holodomor because the Stalin had set population growth as one of the goals of the Soviet Union. The Soviet Census of 1937 revealed a large gap in the projected and actual population of the Soviet Union. As a result, the people who organized the survey were denounced as enemies of the people and sent to the Gulag. Stalin then ordered a new census that returned exactly as many people as the projection, make of that what you will. The 1937 census tallied 162 million people, while Stalin expected 170 million.

Let's face it, if FDR didn't die in his 4th term he would have ran another term and possibly won another 7th term, and would basically be make his own dynasty at that point, I doubt america would still be a democracy by that point, once you elect dynasties like that you can never go back to being a ""democracy"".
17 posts and 3 images submitted.
>>
>>2829409
>one person
>dynasty
>>
>>2829422
The moment you elect a person for 20 years democracy is dead.
>>
>>2829409

>/his/
The place where FDR is a totalitarian dictator in disguise while Franco and Pinochet are nice guys, not dictators.

File: great_duchy_of_lithuania.png (875KB, 1010x1411px) Image search: [Google]
great_duchy_of_lithuania.png
875KB, 1010x1411px
What went wrong?
12 posts and 1 images submitted.
>>
Lithuanian dukes exploited the power vacuum in Western Rus caused above all by the weakening of the Horde and dying out of the dynasty of the princes of Halich. Now this enlarged but internally frail duchy was surrounded by three established powers (Muscovy, Monastic state of Teutonic Knights and Poland), very interested in expanding into lithuanian territory. The fate of Lithuania, a young, fragile state ruled by a pagan elite, was to either make a deal with one of the neighbours (the choice was really between Muscovy and Poland) or implode (very easy considering the number of offspring Gedyminas left and divide-and-conquer strategy that the neighbours would have pursued).
>>
>>2829341
The country was surrounded by all sorts of powerful kingdoms, empires. Union with Poland was a lesser evil.
>>
>>2829341
Slavs ruined it.

If some clever guy had came up with the germ theory in the early antique then have it become wide spread, would it actually have mattered?
11 posts and 3 images submitted.
>>
Actually, yes. The simple acts of washing with water and soap, burying poop away from wells and such, and cleaning surgical instruments would have a noticeable affect on population growth.
>>
Yes, immensely. Doctors and surgeons would make sure to wash their hands with soap or some lye before operating on patients, the mortality rate from operation procedures would drop substantially.
>>
>>2830777
>>2830786

Basically these. The black death probably wouldn't have been prevented, but greatly mitigated.

File: Sequoyah.jpg (41KB, 390x480px) Image search: [Google]
Sequoyah.jpg
41KB, 390x480px
This Cherokee dude was illiterate and created his own writing system. Amazing.

>At first he sought to create a character for each word in the language. He realized that this approach was impractical because it would require too many pictures to be remembered.
>Sequoyah decided to develop a symbol for each syllable in the language. After approximately a month, he had a system of 86 characters, some of which were Latin letters he obtained from a spelling book.
43 posts and 5 images submitted.
>>
>>2829278
>This Cherokee dude was illiterate and created his own writing system. Amazing.
um sweetie no
>>
>>2829314
How is it not?
>>
>>2829278

>At first he sought to create a character for each word in the language. He realized that this approach was impractical because it would require too many pictures to be remembered.
why did none in eastern Asia ever think like this?

File: Poty.jpg (807KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]
Poty.jpg
807KB, 1920x1080px
What are some good comprehensive books about the history of Victorian era England? I am looking for something similar to "Iron Kingdom" by Christopher Clark. It's a book giving a good overview of Prussia by laying out the social, cultural, military, economical and religious developments of this land. Can you recommend me something in this manner?
10 posts and 2 images submitted.
>>
Last bump. I know I can just search for some books myself but I'd prefer personal recommendations.
>>
>>2829215
i can't make recommendations but i can try to find you some books that fit your criteria if you give me a bit
>>
>>2829599

I would appreciate that. Perhaps you are more skilled than me at searching for this.

File: crassus-bust-2.jpg (30KB, 374x480px) Image search: [Google]
crassus-bust-2.jpg
30KB, 374x480px
>when your apartment complex on fire and its threatening to spread to your other complexes on the avenue but there's no fire department so all your stuff is gonna burn down with your tenant's possessions in it but the one guy with a private firefighting force made up of specially trained slaves refuses to put out the fire unless you pay him money, but you dont have any money so he offers to buy your properties at rock-bottom prices that have been destroyed and are going to get destroyed by fire because he knows if you don't sell it your investments are gonna burn down anyway so you'll have to rebuild them all over again but youre pissed off cause your getting scammed so to spite the guy you refuse to pay him so you let your apartments burn to the ground, killing hundres of children and infirm people who can't escape the buildings fast enough but its ok cause it's your property and they weren't officially your tenants cause they didnt make an official contract so no lawsuits can be brought against you for breaking NAP and anyway if they did have a contract it got burnt down with the apartment complex so now you and anyway now you can construct a new property using your greek architect slave into a new slum tenements that can squeeze even more proletariat than before increasing risk of disease so you can constantly replenish your pool of tenants with capital once you drain the old lot dry
10 posts and 1 images submitted.
>>
you know how /pol/ says "jews are communists to themselves and capitalist to everyone else"? Rome is the other way around.
>>
>>2829611
the abuse of power and the social dynamics are pretty much the same
>>
>>2829611
no I don't go to /pol/, you should return there though
>>2829657
what are you saying here

Pages: [First page] [Previous page] [1010] [1011] [1012] [1013] [1014] [1015] [1016] [1017] [1018] [1019] [1020] [1021] [1022] [1023] [1024] [1025] [1026] [1027] [1028] [1029] [1030] [Next page] [Last page]

[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Search | Top | Home]

I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


If you need a post removed click on it's [Report] button and follow the instruction.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com.
If you like this website please support us by donating with Bitcoins at 16mKtbZiwW52BLkibtCr8jUg2KVUMTxVQ5
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties.
Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from that site.
This means that RandomArchive shows their content, archived.
If you need information for a Poster - contact them.