Not that this wasn't justified since he did come at them with a screwdriver(?), but it seems pretty stupid to keep yelling at his to drop it. Like i can't imagine anyone having just been shot multiple times could reasonably deal with the shock enough to take directions. Like just take it out of his hands he's literally not even a treat at that point
>not that it wasn't justified.
The gentleman was standing there with a screwdriver, the police pulled their sidearms on him. His mother panicked and rushed in. At this time, the gentleman moved towards the officers, but really towards his mother. He wasn't going after the officers. The police overreacted and you can tell how bad they are by them continuing to ask him to drop it after they shot him. Just idiocy.
I mean you can stab somebody with a screwdriver
anyways, from what it looked like in the video it seemed like he came out of the door towards them pretty quickly, and they did tell him to drop it more than once. Again that's just what i could make out. If it was clear that he was just standing there and they just shot then it would be a different story.
although their actions after he had been shot make it very clear that they are both idiots.
We don't know why they came to the house. We don't know if he had a violent history. We don't know why he isn't following police instructions.
I've had some small experience in law enforcement and most of the complaints about these types of shootings are due to ignorance.
People get stabbed all the time by stupid shit like that. People die. Police are trained that when someone comes at you with a weapon, you take them down. No "yeah but what if..." questions. If someone is willing to come at you with a weapon its you or them.
If we start expecting police to just die because 'muh protec n surv fkn pigs' then we're gonna have a lot less people that want to be LEOs. Smart people don't make career choices where they're expected to die for a meth-head's rights.
Don't break the law. Be respectful to police officers. If they do something that offends you or goes against your rights then report it and spread the word.
I might be mistaken, bc I'm a yurop, but don't your cops have Tasers or something like that?
I mean, I get that often times shit like this is warranted and all, but if someone has a frigging screwdriver/fork/pencil in their hand as they answer the door, you shouldn't just shoot them multiple times in the abdomen....at least target the fucking legs so your shots won't put the target in a ciritcal condition asap..........
Yeah. The mother called the police to help carry his son to the hospital because he was mentally ill (schizophrenia or some shit), and see how they reacted knowing that.
He had a screwdriver, okay. They could have asked the mother to convince him to let it go, instead of agitating him.
Not everyone goes into shock and you can still see he is moving around after hitting the ground. While the weapon is still near the suspect it is against police regulations to approach or help him.
Many EMTs have been stabbed, shot, or hurt in various ways because they tried to help before the person was disarmed.
Basically, throw the screwdriver out to the side, or I HAVE to stand here and watch you bleed to death.
Tasers are kinda hit and miss. They might be kind of a fad. The technology just isn't there to make them effective AND accurate AND safe AND reliable all at once, all the time.
Like I said, they're trained to shoot to kill. Guns don't really work like in the movies. If you shoot someone in the leg it could still kill them but slower and they'll still be coming at you they won't just be like "oh you got me! damn!"
Not all police have tasers, and when a weapon is present the situation is already beyond "less lethal" stage
You use a taser on someone who is unarmed instead of caving their head in with your nightstick. You shoot people, multiple times, when they have a weapon
>and they'll still be coming at you they won't just be like "oh you got me! damn!"
Of course not, but getting shot thrice in the legs kinda impairs your movement....
Well, I'll just file this under "More non-competent cops"
Really though, do your research on it. Absolutely no one is trained to shoot a violent suspect in the leg. There is just way too many things that can happen if you do. Its hard enough to nail someone in the torso.
You cant shoot someone in the leg. You will lose your job, get sued, and possibly go to jail.
The only reason you shoot someone is because you are in imminent fear of great bodily harm (and getting stabbed is far beyond the definition of bodily harm) Shooting someone in the leg means you were not in fear of your life.
There is no "middle ground" when using deadly force. Its why you are taught to shoot multiple times. The simple fact of shooting once also means you werent all that scared or you would have kept pulling the trigger until the other person stopped moving
I dunno cops in america jump to tazers and such very quickly. I've seen trained constables in Britain tackle people to the ground to disarm them rather than jump straight to the baton or tazer
Well my bad, I don't know the context of the video. Still, it's a huge overreaction by the police and their "DROP THA SKRODRIVER" chant when the nignog is dead just shows their retardation.
And that is false. Police have a far far greater threshold to use force than I do as a private citizen. I am able to shoot you because you hit me with a fist. A cop does that and it will be all over the news.
You do not need to be armed, I do not need to give you a warning, I do not need to run away, and you dont even need to be actually be threatening ME, and I am still able to shoot you. A police officer most certainly can not shoot in the same situations
This is just such a retarded concept to me.
I'm from Russia and worked for 7 years as ambulance worker and i saw multiple confrontations of out of control / drunk people with cops. I saw a a dude rush cops with an axe and they shot him in the leg. He fell, they beat him up some more with batons and took to local precinct. Saw a mental patient who ran away from local mental institute rush cops with knife, once again he just got beat up with batons. Yes, we were on one call where dude pulled a gun on police officer and he got shot without hesitation.
You have tasers, pepper spray for a reason. Majority of situations can be resolved without fatal result. The way they train the cops is just not right in my opinion. Shoot to kill is just an easy way of covering their asses. Easier to just say that killing person was only option.
Just my 2 cents as someone who dealt with this a little.
Why is it that people keep saying "mentally ill" like its a reason to NOT shoot him? FFS, if anything, being a whack job would make the cops even more on edge.
Normal people can be talked to and rationalized with. Whackjobs are, whackjobs, and there is no telling what they might or might not do
I can understand if a random retard with mental illness were to charge himself to a police officer with a gun or a knife or something, he would get shot as a consequence.
But a guy with a small screwdriver? The officers were even called by the guy's mother so to take him to hospital safely, without making trouble. There were many ways to assess the situation to make the guy drop the so-called "weapon" and end it peacefully, but no. Instead, they just decided to use the old-fashioned brute force.
It wasnt always that way. It use to be the cops would smash your skull with large sticks and flashlights until you surrendered or stopped twitching.
These days restraining someone "too roughly" is a multi million dollar lawsuit. Dont blame the police. Blame the special snowflakes who "know their rights" and have a 20 dollar an hour lawyer's card in their wallet.
There is a major discussion in law enforcement about tasers and how they actually make confrontations more violent. A lot of police who are issued tasers are not allowed to carry a nightstick or pepper spray anymore. Which now means they either HAVE to taze you or shoot you.
Yes, the officers responded to a "mentally ill person who is refusing to go to the hospital"
Nutjob comes to the door with a screwdriver.
Are you going to talk to him like a special little snowflake? Because nutjob 5 feet away from me with a screwdriver takes a step near me, and he is getting shot a lot more times than 3.
Its parents like this that are the reason for things like Sandyhook happening.
Retards, crazy people, and otherwise mentally infirm people should be locked away from the public. But no, he is family and I love him. He is harmless so Ill just let him mingle with normal humans.
Great idea mom.
>hope a fucking criminals enters your home
By that time its too late for them to "protect me". Police officers are just glorified garbage collectors. They show up after the mess is over with.
Sorry but you are a moron. They train you for center mass.
The "trick shots" people are fed by TV are possible, ie they could've shot right above his clavicula, that causes you to open your hand and he would've dropped the screw driver.
But when it comes down to a chance vs making 100% sure he doesn't get you; and keeping yourself and your partner safe. You know what your choice is gonna be.
Plus it was a nigger, who cares.
Yeah, the same nutjob the police of that city had to deal with. This wasn't the first time the mother called the officers for help carry her son to the hospital, so not to involve with people on the streets.
You can always ask the mother to do something about it, or else, you'll proceed to use force, but they didn't. That was one way to avoid shooting.
So you're saying there's two (or more) cops there who couldn't have disarmed the guy holding a screwdriver(?) without killing him?
Is American police training literally just shoot anything that moves?
The fact of the matter is cops aren't being treated as murderers. Through the eye of an angel, we see they're well trained and can just as easily run away from a screwdriver as a civilian would reflect. Cops don't run, they fight. They chase and attack. They're aggressive. It wasn't a difficult decision to take a life from what I seen. Was one bullet enough? Maybe to the legs? What justice is here? Is this what tax payers work hard for? Another mentally ill person sent to they're early grave. This isn't anything new. Do cops even go to church?
>Is American police training literally just shoot anything that moves?
You take pity on someone in that second who is lunging at you with a weapon, with intent to do serious/fatal harm to you?
You'd think the threat of being shot would stop people, but no. If they're not going to stop with the threat of lethal force, what makes you think they'll respond to non-lethal force?
not other anon, but being locked in a cage for the rest of your life can be more of a threat to some people than death.
now get some content it here with your next post you faggot.
>not recognizing india for the tourist destination it is
stay plebian, faggot.
post your own content if you don't like this one.
he fucking rekt that shit, faggot.
"This the second time" "you had my bitch up in there that night, when you niggas did that foul ass shit"
it does look pretty eastern european, but you can't blame the driver for this. Maybe he looked away while stationary, and in that time the retard was already laying down, so when he looked back up he had no idea
what? no. that's what happens when a diglett evolves.
>also, a 2000lb explosive went off
the pieces of wall (singular) are a job for two people, like 60 kg, and when they drop on there own they would break your legs, no question Im gonna guess theres about 3 blocks, this brings it to 180kg, he would have been fucked. in a cast for fucking months after the doctors removed the 1488 bone fragments that make up his shin bone.
Yeah, he was fucked, no question
180 kilo's in a track (to keep the wall vertical). with no apparent way to remove the leg from the wall, he would have been stuck there, in shock.
Can someone explain this? Where, why?
i'm with you. there's amazing things happening in the field of limb replacement lately.
None of that is true.
If you shoot someone because they punch you it is unlawful escalation of force and you are charged with murder. Police have shot 1057 people so far this year 1100+ last year with less than 1% being charged with a crime. Police are allowed to enter hearsay evidence as fact as they are sworn officers, you do not.
Limb replacement is like the best option, without the risk of walking along and my shin bone that has basically been glued back together in the same way you glue back an antique in a cartoon, with it just crumbling with a change of wind.
true. still, a pegleg and phantom pain would be preferable to a lifetime of real pain imo desu senpai
This is factually false.
The only situation that warrants shooting a person is in an attempt to prevent death or grave bodily harm.
And no getting punched does not qualify. It has to be a situation where a jury would find it reasonably probable that it would lead to you being crippled or killed.
you speak as if you've had some damage to your meat-vehicle over the years, anon.
any fun stories to share?
>woman exits house saying the man is "talking to himself, mumbling like a schizo"
>one can assume the cops were called due to this
>man unfolds a knife
>cops ask him to put it down
>he doesnt, instead comes towards officers
>some bullets get refugee status inside his body
cry more leftist shits
It's china; i'm to busy posting content to explain, but it's their fucked up legal system. Perhaps another anon could explain further?
Never broken a bone in my body
However had an ankle injury that basically meant them having to take apart my ankle and rebuild the tendons and the cartilage.
>skateboarding because 16 year old britfag with a hobby
>set of stairs (9)
>Kickflip, front foot slightly too far forward on my board, slips off
>toes-ankle-leg-body in order of floor connection
>but it was the crook of my foot, like the bit between your leg and top of your foot
> tore all three supportive tendons including the one going up the shin bone
> walked two miles to train station in shock
>schock wore off late at night, started to fucking cry my eyes out
>get to hospital, immediate scan
>operation arranged for next day after being morphined to fuck.
>drugs wore off very quickly, didnt sleep
>had all three of those tendons repaired with the muscles from both big toe muscles
>woke up with bad pain, 6 months of no walking
>when i can walk again, start to walk and it hurts like fuck
>one day walking about, one of the supportive tendons gives way, walking lopsided.
>doctors said theres nothing they can do without taking from my achilles.
>im 6'9 and am a mechanic, wouldnt have been advisable.
>got used to it, not so bad now, but im slightly off balance on my left side.
Most rekt ive ever been
eh in china you are blamed for the accident if you try to help
no idea why they thought that would be a good idea because that leads to no one helping because they'll just get blamed
like if anyone had tried to help the toddler, if they'd taken him to a hospital, then they would have been apprehended and sentenced for harming him. if you just don't do fuck all then you alright.
fucking hell that sucks dude
I'm a tech in canada and out hoists aren't tall enough for a seven foot beast like you - i'm a 5'9 manlet and the hoists have always been the perfect height. i feel for you, bro. Best of thoughts to your ankle bones.
>i'll find a skateboard vid somewhere before i close this thread with content, so check back.
one of us, one of us.
>and i'm borderline, not socio.
btw, with all this police talk and no posting of content that isn't mine, you all seem to forget, nature is way more fucked than a nigger with a screwdriver. Humans are generally awesome. Nature; generally is not.
Those cops clearly had tasers on their belts in the video.
>You use a taser on someone who is unarmed instead of caving their head in with your nightstick. You shoot people, multiple times, when they have a weapon
That only makes sense if you are a overreacting coward with zero training, or a sadist thug with a badge looking to kill someone.
You use a taser when someone is a threat and using physical force will endanger the lives of yourself, the suspect, and/or others. You use a gun when there is no other way of peacefully deescalating the situation and death of yourself or others is imminent.
The death of themselves or others were not imminent from the man holding the screwdriver. Yes a screwdriver can be dangerous but their lives were not endanger. Anyone with the most basic of training would have been able to deescalate that situation without resorting to using a gun.
It was a girl, and she actually survived for two weeks after the incident before succumbing to her wounds in a hospital.
It's part of the reason why I don't believe in a traditional loving God anymore.
i could stab that screwdriver through your second and third ribs and into your vena cava and you'd be dead in under a minute, faggot. So post some content to extend your lifespan.
i feel that this is one of the hardest to watch in my rekt folder.
poor guy looks confused.
It's only an attempt - but if they can get him to drop the screwdriver, they can give him medical attention. Plenty of police have been killed because they thought someone was incapacitated from being shot, only to find out they're not..
Watch the full video retard. Those cops were arresting him for nothing. He did nothing wrong and wasn't a threat to anyone he just walked by and made a comment to the police that insulted their "authority" so they had to arrest him to establish dominance so they could feel like "real men"
They're told not to use the tasers or batons with fatal weapons. They might not block the attack (thus getting injured) and tasers really only work as intended 30-40 percent of the time, since the pins both have to touch skin less than 2 inches apart (and they spread fairly randomly)
Lathe's terrify me.
Not brake lathe's, but real lathe's.
so what? get stabbed and subdue him. there are two officers there. they have more than enough man power. we pay them to take the risk so we don't have to.
>but they're human
sometimes you don't have the right to be human. see American soldiers for example.
Hopefully, what will happen to Subway Jared for the next 15.5 years.
>This x 10000
It is fucking retarded how people are with their dogs, and how they think that they can do anything without any penalty.
For example: I live in a college town where every dumbass has a dog two sizes too big for their one bed apartments, and they walk their dogs without leashes. Every night I hear people shout, "No dont run away!" or "Come back!" to their dogs. One time,a guy was walking his dog around my apartment complex, and suddenly it ran in the street in high traffic in the morning an the dog got hit by a truck. The guy blamed the truck driver for what he claimed was driving over the speed limit and labeled the driver an animal killer/ hater.
>Implying you wouldn't mourn the death of your son that happened right in front of you.
>Implying said grief wouldn't turn to bitterness or resentment when you just wanted him taught a lesson or sent somewhere to cool down from his episode.
>Implying you're hard or some kind of "Le Edgy Sociopath"
Well no he has a fuckin dash cam he prove this was the cyclists fault
I always see shit about how drivers need to pay more attention to motorcyclists, but at least half of the ones I see operate their vehicles like assholes whipping and weaving all over the road
Can say 'cause I live in NYC, assaulting a bus operator can get you jailed for up to 7 years. They have signs and announcements about it but never seen someone stupid enough to do it, or even get jailed for it. I know assault is an offense everywhere in the U.S. but don't know how it works for specifically bus drivers outside of NYC.
Darn tootin, friend. check this out if you liked that; it's about a dancer that lost her leg from the knee down. Great stuff.
So you're saying that a civilian's life is automatically more important than a police officers? because if he get's stabbed in the neck, head, eye, other squishy parts of the head region - He won't survive 4 out of 5 times.
But they can treat most wounds to the torso, so that route of action also provides the greatest chance of no one dying.
>So you're saying that a civilian's life is automatically more important than a police officers?
What? No. Cops don't get enough respect in my opinion. The job is too difficult for any human being.
Blame politicians and generals, not cops and foot soldiers.
My ex had two rotties, who i was a bitch around, so they were kept outside.
when they got let in by her mum they ran out into the front room and jumped on me and just rested their heads and legs on my lap and just licked me to death
Fuck you, rotties are beautiful, if raised correctly
>retard doesn't know that most houses outside of america are made of brick&concrete including the roofs
cheap housing best housing
I always found american's wooden houses retarded, specially in tornado county.
Know what else is silly? Charging an officer whom has a weapon trained on you. He was told to drop it, he didn't drop it, he instead charged, he got what was coming. Grow the fuck up faggot
>Fuck you, rotties are beautiful, if raised correctly
Based truth. Blame the dog owner, not the dog.
No problem, friend.
However, i noticed you didn't post any content with your reply, faggot.
Big Teddy bears that will maul you to pieces if they loose their shit once. All it takes is one time and you're done for. Not that they're inherently violent, it's just that they're too damn strong with their massive jaws, they're like landsharks.
He was the village pedo. May the same fate await them all.
A lot of the houses here are made of bricks as well. I bet a lot of the new houses in Europe are wooden because its typically how new houses are built. But I imagine your ceilings are made from drywall just like everyone else.
>Not that they're inherently violent, it's just that they're too damn strong with their massive jaws, they're like landsharks.
Ban rottie's but keep great danes and mastiff's, eh anon?
I think you've let your feels cloud your logic.
>implying my son would pull a weapon on cops and not take down a few
If you're really that upset you can always donate to the programs to help prevent further police on black violence
let's de-escalate the police talk and all post more content.
Yeah, shit happens and then you die, all of it cause you hesitated for a second and allowed your dog-owner-instinct to fool you into thinking that that huge-ass hyperactive dog was just a playful and curious puppy. You don't hesitate around big dogs like Rotts and Pit Bulls, if you do you die. So ask yourself this question "Is a dogs life worth as much as my physical integrity?".
Bullets create a gas seal as they travel down the barrel. Unless he got blown off by the gases venting out of the gas tube about 5 in. away then the bullet came first. Either way, niggas dead.
yeah, you have the right to go out of your way to antagonize a large group of cops, for no reason, who are in the middle of a stand off with armed robbers and they have the right to cuff you for impeding them.
Oh, pardon me. I was talking to the guy behind you. Yeah, him. The ugly one.
Well done for the content post, friend.
I don't train dogs, cockmonger. And any dog trainer worth his wages knows that no matter how much training and conditioning you invest into one dog, you will never be able to eliminate that tiny and almost improbable possibility that such dog will one day attack someone. You're not Cesar Milani, senpai, settle down.
>I don't train dogs
>And any dog trainer worth his wages knows that no matter how much training and conditioning you invest into one dog, you will never be able to eliminate that tiny and almost improbable possibility that such dog will one day attack someone. You're not Cesar Milani, senpai, settle down.
What? You just said you don't know shit about training dogs and now you lecture about training dogs? Sit down, kid. You're going to hurt yourself-desu.
Those cops choose to go out of their way to antagonize someone for a meaningless comment, for no reason, who have better things to focus on like the middle of a stand off with armed robbers.
>they have the right to cuff you for impeding them
How is asking two cops just standing around doing nothing (among a large group of white officers) why there aren't any black cops on the scene impeding them? Please explain how that somehow hurts the polices ability to continue stand around doing nothing. Explain how that warrants the cops arresting someone for asking a question. The only answer I see is that those police are being fascist. If they weren't being fascist all they had to do was ignore the comment and continue doing their job and nothing else would have happened.
>fangs and strength of that cats mouth
don't forget the claws, eh
> Just like you don't realise I'm wearing two right now
That reveal man, even his voice, he knows with the utmost confidence he's going to blow you the fuck away and goddamn he's not wrong.
Fuck yeah. He's dope as shit. That's why i would cut the leg off and get that robot-leg if my leg was stuck in the 180kg track wall.
>not using a dai-katana-naginata combination staff-walking stick
Stay plebian, faggot.
But post some content, ok?
For that other mechanic-bro in the thread, here's quake on an o-scope.
Since i like your face, here's the rekt that goes with that kek.
I love how cops always realize they fucked up, so they pretend like they're still threatened after taking somebody down. People should just revolt and kill the faggots who do shit like that. It'll never happen, though.
>People should just revolt
The clean cops need to police the dirty ones.
murican justice served by tinny keks that want to have power over ppl, cuss someone was mean to them as a kid. but cant handle the slighest wiff of presure - murica land off the brave and free hahahahahahahaha hold on i need to breath muahahaha
This is why all cops wear stab resistant vests man. The reason you become a cop, is that you place other peoples lives above your own. Especially those who are young, ill or otherwise unable to care for themselves.
If you're not willing to put everyone above yourself, you have no business becoming a cop.
This is one guy that's been posting content; i'm off to take Urist around the fort. Be back later, if you faggots are lucky. Post content and my autism will be pleased.
It doesn't even fucking matter. If you impede the cops it is literally against the law and they can arrest you, the end. If they think it's within bounds to do so. It's up to the courts to decide if they were right or wrong. In this case they ruled in his favor (actually it was declared a mistrial) so big fucking deal. It's not like the "fascist" jackboots threw him in a fucking pit for the rest of his life.
This, you can't just indiscriminately kill cops. That would cause the cops to react just as violently back and vilify your movement (those innocent cops have families ect). Besides, the ratio of good cops to bad is not at horrible as everyone thinks.
A lady here in my town posts videos to the city hall's facebook weekly of people "driving too fast" and she petitions CONSTANTLY to have the speed limit reduced on one of the main roads through here. All because her dog got off its leash and bolted straight into traffic. Now we all have to drive 10mph slower (after they reduced the shit once before for this cunt) because her shitty dog decided it wanted to play frogger.
>> I am able to shoot you because you hit me with a fist.
"Able" to yes. Able to do so LEGALLY. . .that highly depends where, and the exact circumstances.
In most jurisdictions you have to perceive a reasonable imminent threat of serious injury or death before you're allowed to use deadly force. Simple punch may or may not meet that standard . . .it depends.
In some places (eg MA) even that's not enough, you ALSO have to be unable to safely retreat. EG, if someone swings a baseball bat at your head, misses, and then you can run away, you're obligated to try to do so before you can legally respond with deadly force.
Cops are generally held to the same standard, thought for multiple reasons they're typically given a little more latitude.
Cops here were completely irresponsible.
This guy is literally standing in HIS HOME holding a screwdriver (not a gun, not a knife, not in public). He probably had no idea it was cops were at the door until he came out. Cops start screaming at him (again, on his own property) to drop it, and within three seconds, they shoot three times.
I "get" that cops are trained that anyone with a knife inside of 20 feet is a potential threat, but in this case they outnumbered this guy, they had him flanked, and his mom was standing right there. Just a bad bad call on their part.
How much of a fucking retarded faggot are you?
How is standing completely out of the way of the police performing their task and asking two officers who are standing around doing nothing (also completely out of the way of whatever is happening) "Why aren't there any black cops here?", impeding the cops? How is asking a question to two cops who are doing nothing impeding them?
By your logic you could say that if you stare at police you are impeding them. If you are talking to a friend of yours within earshot of cops you are impeding them. If you are filming cops you are impeding them. How is what that man did impeding the police?
>It's not like the "fascist" jackboots threw him in a fucking pit for the rest of his life.
No the fascist jackboots just decided that they didn't like someone asking them a question, and while in no logical way impeding their standing around doing nothing, and decided to arrest a man unlawfully and shoot his dog. They easily could have let the man secure his dog in the car then give him a verbal warning about "impeding" them. They didn't do any of that because they are fascist thugs with badges.
>>If you shoot someone because they punch you it is unlawful escalation of force and you are charged with murder.
Again, that depends on the jurisdiction and particular circumstances.
The usual legal standard is reasonable imminent fear of death or grievous injury. A simple thrown punch might meet that standard, it might not. Depends.
If you're a 95lb female, and a 250 lb male jumps you in a dark alley and punches you in the face, you likely are legally entitled to employ deadly force and shoot your attacker. Its because in that circumstance, it would be perfectly reasonable to fear being raped or killed.
In fact, given that situation, you wouldn't even necessarily have to wait for your assailant to throw ANY punches before shooting. . .so long as you had a reasonable fear that you were about to be attacked, use of deadly force could be legally justified.
In addition to Israel, Brasil, and S. Africa, Galil rifles are also widely issued in Central America, including Panama, Guatemala, and Nicaragua.
In thise case, since the police uniforms are written in English and the shooters are screaming in English, my money would be on Africa for the location.
>>you know they could of solved that by letting the man close the window or deal with his dog
That's Monday-morning quarterbacking.
Watch closely. Cops were occupied with arrest and had no reason to think the dog could squeeze through the car window until he was already out at about 0:10. Dog immediately runs towards cops. At 0:19 cop tries to take control of dog's leash and the dog lunges at him trying to bite. At 0:22 same thing happens again, with dog jumping up trying to bite the cops hand. That's when he starts shooting.
So, the question is, how many MORE times must a cop let a Rottweiler try to bite him before shooting it? Answer, zero. This dog got two chances. . .he didn't get a third.
COULD cops have tried to let owner help. . .yes. SHOULD they have? I don't think they were obligated to try and uncuff him while being attacked by dog.
It's because 'Murica only recruits cowards and pussies for the police force. They panic and shoot someone when they didn't have to, then panic realizing it, then panic some more. 'Murica cops only know how to panic because 'Murica is a place of perpetual pussies quaking in fear of their own shadow.
Just look at France: Muslim terrorist kill a bunch of them, so they decide to take in thousand of Muslim refugees from Syria. Why? Because they have balls of steel. 'Murica on the other hand freaks out that half a world away violence happened, so they don't want to help any refugees. 'Murica is one big country of cowards.
>I don't think they were obligated to try and uncuff him while being attacked by dog.
The dog only tried to bite them when they reached for it, otherwise it seemed content to just bark harmlessly.
Common sense solution:
1. Stop reaching for the dog like a fucking retard.
2. Uncuff the man who you are arresting for no good reason so they can control their dog and secure it in the vehicle.
But all of that would take intelligence and professionalism something police lack.
kek so much, I wasn't expecting that
>>HOLY FUCK story ?
Van runs over toddler, then drives away. It happens again with another car. Passers-by don't help and the kid is now brain dead. The end.
For what its worth, "hit and run" incidents happen all over the world, not just China. But not only is hit and run illegal in China, the drivers responsible in this particular case were eventually arrested.
Contrary to what has been suggested above, there is no law in China that says that if you help an accident victim you're automatically liable for damages. In fact, eventually someone did help this girl (though it was too late).
Instead, people are afraid to help for several reasons. One of them is that (like in many populous places) people are expected to mind their own business. Another is fear that incidents like this are scams/traps. Lastly, there have been individual instances in China where people helping accident victims have been sued and even held liable. So many are reluctant to get involved.
That sounds pretty horrible, but the exact same thing was the rule in the USA for many years. Eventually most States have passed "Good Samaritan" legislation shielding third parties from liability associated with good faith attempts to help accident victims. China will probably get around to that, eventually.
Yes. I am fairly certain that was a roundabout/traffic circle of some sort. They don't look like that here in Canada. But that is an uncontrolled intersection at the very least. Buddy just barreled through.
Yeah, when he looked back at the car he came to the acute and inescapable realization that he was a bikerbro and understood that there was only one thing to do: slow down get hit by the car and kill himself for the sake of our species. That man was a hero. He made the ultimate sacrifice to further humanity. His name was Robert Paulson.
>>The dog only tried to bite them when they reached for it, otherwise it seemed content to just bark harmlessly.
If the dog were content to "bark harmlessly" it would have stayed safely in the car. Instead this 70lb Rottweiler ran out towards the cops and stopped right next to them.
Cop tries GENTLY to control the dog (watch again, cop in question puts hand out and SLOWLY moves towards dog) and for his trouble nearly gets bitten twice, with dog actually jumping up to do so the second time. A friendly/socialized dog does not try to bite someone who is slowly moving towards them. The cop then decides the dog is hostile, can't easily be controlled, and instead of a risking a third bite attempt shoots.
You may disagree, but IMO, the cop was perfectly justified in using force at that time.
As to owner, why he was arrested is utterly irrelevant. He was cuffed, he didn't offer to help with his dog, and he wasn't in a position to do so anyway. Whole incident took about 12 seconds. This cop was supposed to wait around while a Rottweiler was lunging at him, to uncuff an uncooperative suspect so that maybe he might help with his dog?
Assuming your tendons and musculature aren't damaged to the point that you're a cripple forever typically the point of a bone break will be stronger. It grows back thicker.
But yeah having that shit slam down on his leg fucked up his life forever.
The bike was already in the intersection. Assuming it's a roundabout, they should have slowed, and the van would have probably taken right of way(priority). But being a totally uncontrolled intersection. They should have treated it as a 4-way stop, where the motorcycle would have had right of way, being that he would have come to a stop first. Either way, the motorcycle was in the intersection before the van entered, therefore he had right of way. At least, that's how I see it.
my father told me when I was little that no matter what rights you think you have if a cop sees fit he will do whatever he wants to you and when it happens you must simply deal with it and hope for the best.
yes its bullshit.
yes it fucking sucks.
but seriously, if a cop tell me to do something ill do it no argument because any time you tell an officer no there WILL be trouble.
the vests don't stop something from cutting through any more than your shirt would dude. you now nothing of ballistics. also, ive been stabbed in the calf with a Philips screwdriver on accident at work once, shit isn't exactly sharp but enough force in a small area man.
The cops could've easily tooken down the screwdriver guy. Like many people said, they have tasers which they supposed to use. A simple taser would take him down. For the idiots that don't know about tasers, they lock up your muscles for you can't move. Using that would've been very simple. Another thing for the idiots that don't know, police officers have Kevlar armor. That small screwdriver wouldn't penetrate that armor or make a dent in it. They had a good a amount of distance from the guy. Just like how fast they shot him a couple times they could've easily just tased him. The mother even stated he was mentally ill. The cops should've listened and talk to the mother instead of shouting at him. For the idiots that don't know "A brain disorder in which people interpret reality abnormally." This is his illness and what it does. He didn't comprehend what was going on around him. For the other idiots, if a person have a melee weapons. They usually aim for the chest cause it have most vital organs and easiest to hit. Try going for the head or neck, the person can easily dodge it (if fast enough) and counter attack. Most police killings are from white cops. A 10 year old girl was tase when she had a mental illness. She had a pocket knife and the cop decided to tased the girl which he could've easily overpowered her. The girl now suffer from that experience. That's just a small thing that they've done.
For the idiots that don't know, the dog didn't try attacking the cops. He was playing with them and thought they was playing also. When the dog jumped up, it wasn't trying to bit the cop. It was just jumping up to get pet just like any other dog would do to a person. If the dog was so called trying to bit the cop, then why the dog didn't try running away or bit the cop when the cop pulled the gun in is face? The dog was just sitting there not doing anything until it got shot and tried running away. I actually watched the news about that. The dog was very friendly.
Right, and he was pointing out that it did not occur in the US despite our violent nature constantly being pointed out to us.. Shouldn't have had to addendum his easy-to-understand post, mongtard