Let's exterminate ugly design

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>>249581
Remember your triangle of production.
>Great, Cheap, Fast
>Pick two

Sounds like you guys are going the cheap/fast route.

I spoke to my mate about this and one of my lecturers must have overheard, he just handed me a piece of paper with a triangle drawn on it and your 3 points. He said pick two! haha. It's such a shame cause the money is great, I'm undergrad and getting 12.50gbp per hour. I took a job home, did it properly ( a 10second video billboard ad) the office was really impressed; I had sales guys coming over to say well done. However, I am not sure they would allow me the time required to make that sort of stuff simply because they believe they can charge correctly for it. They might be scared of losing customers. I feel like it's not a lost cause though. How can I as a designer clearly demonstrate the value in quality design?

ugly is subjective.

i hate GD because my clients always think they know shit about design. their money.

better to make your own product and design everything than to be a GD for other people.

I get you totally but without a brief are we not just making art for ourselves?

>>249589
Start to give them the ugly duck, then you can get your stuff through.

>>249589
Sounds like you need to start telling your clients no. Sometimes you have to fire them.