/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Is the following post the only way to programmatically create a session in i3? I took it from a post on an earlier thread

>you want a mini tutorial?

>Launch your programs and put them in position then execute the next command:
i3-save-tree --workspace 1 > ~/.i3/workspace-1.json

edit that json file and replace the class name and/or instance with the program name use xprop if you dont know the names
"swallows": [
{
"class": "^Emacs$",
"instance": "^emacs$"
// "title": "^emacs\\@beemo$",
// "transient_for": "^$"
}

in your i3 config file (put the proper names)
# Load layouts
exec --no-startup-id "i3-msg 'workspace 1; append_layout ~/.config/i3/workspace-1.json'"

then lauch the programs:
exec --no-startup-id "i3-msg 'workspace 1; exec urxvt -name ncmpcpp -e ncmpcpp'"
exec --no-startup-id "i3-msg 'workspace 1; exec urxvt -name vis -e vis'"
exec --no-startup-id "i3-msg 'workspace 1; exec uxterm -name clock -e tty-clock -c -s -C 3'"

programs that arent made by faggots like pottering give you the chance yo rename their name as seen in the example above

finally, a faglet thread

Anyone using neovim? What plugins do you use if any?
Are all vim plugins compatible?

I just want to have a simple setup with the project tree (I think nerdtree does this?), nice tabbing (maybe just need to learn buffers), some kind of way to debug/lint if relevant to language.

Also:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ext4#Using_file-based_encryption

Anyone know what Ubuntu fags should do when they reach the part of this that needs e4crypt?
I tried apt install e4crypt, doesn't seem to exist.

The command before that
sudo tune2fs -O encrypt /dev/sdb1
tune2fs 1.42.13 (17-May-2015)
Invalid filesystem option set: encrypt

doesn't work either. Not sure why not. This is Ubuntu 16.04.3.
Testing out fs level encryption on a 4gb usb drive.

Some dude in the last thread said that fsencrypt may not be enabled in the Ubuntu kernel but how would I check if it is?

And has anyone got this working on Ubuntu? Or even a different distro?

Please respond: >>62473126

(some things I tried:)
>>62473967
>>62473934
>>62473900
>>62473635

>>62473983
>alt+shift+r

Did you try:

"xdotool "alt+shift+r""
    m:0x5 + c:24
    Control+Shift + r

Also try

"xdotool "alt+shift+r""
    m:0x5 + c:24
    Control+Shift + r + Release

>>62474025
forgot to remove the "m:0x5 + c:24" part

>>62473970

>programs that arent made by faggots like pottering give you the chance yo rename their name as seen in the example above

>only 2 programs made by him
>none of them are programs that would need a window
>average anti-systemd-sheep poster who has no knowledge about anything

>>62474040
Chill, I only copied the post verbatim

>>62474007
>Dont worry, we who remember buggy version 0.001-alpha are still here. Also !§$%jews&/commies")(/%(%$=hitler

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>>62474073

>>62474073
>Dont worry this thread is only a fork, next time the /flt/ people take it back remember they are only forking a fork.

So I have this program which prints shit to stdout but refused to print the same output if the output is not a terminal. Anyone knows a workaround that allows me to save what it would print to the terminal to a file?

tl;dr how 2 trick a program into thinking the output is a terminal?

>>62474025
When I tell xbindkeys-config to run

xdotool "alt+shift+r""

it outputs

xdotool: Unknown command: alt+shift+r

so I tried

xdotool key "alt+shift+r""

and it doesn't output an error. I think it might be working, but I don't know how to check.

I'm starting to suspect that it's actually Anki (the program for which I need the hotkey) that has some conflicting hotkeys for [Alt]+[Shift]+[r] and that the hotkey is working, but something in Anki is preventing it from doing anything.
I'll check the add-ons for conflicting hotkeys before continuing.

Thank you so much for the help so far, though.

How many levels of retardation am I on for storing literally all my passwords in a text file in a veracrypt container on an Ubuntu machine?

Should I get one of those password managers instead?

Since they're multiplatform, if I used one on an Android device, would I basically fuck myself over since they're not secure, or so I've heard?

>>62474203
Not that retarded but you should probably use pass instead. It's a command line program that organises passwords.

Why the fuck won't grub os-prober pick up my fucking debian install by will pick up windows?

>>62473982
>nice tabbing (maybe just need to learn buffers)
You really should learn buffers. It took me a while to understand wtf people meant by "tabs are just a window into buffers" but the Vim way really is better than the "1 tab -> 1 file" concept everything else uses.

Try getting used to them by forcing yourself to use them. Ban tabs for a little while and add this to your vimrc:

set hidden
set wildmenu
set wildmode=list:longest,full

set hidden lets you background a buffer while it's unsaved which I find essential. Now, when you want to work on another file, don't :tabe or whatever, just :e file and switch between them with
:b <tab>
:b (partial name)<tab>
wildmenu + buffer name completion is really comfy, as the /g/ids would say.

>>62474203
>passwords in a text file
Insecure when the program you edit that file with loads it into memory.

>>62473983
> All these X tool suggestions
Did you just try Xfce's build-in keyboard shortcut manager? In Settings -> Keyboard or somewhere like that.

>>62474245
I don't know the syntax for emulating keypresses in
>Settings -> Keyboard -> Applications
or
>Settings -> Settings Editor

>>62473982
>just want to have a simple setup with the project tree (I think nerdtree does this?)
yes, nerdtree is good, maybe add tagbar?
>some kind of way to debug/lint if relevant to language
ale is great https://github.com/w0rp/ale

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>Person has a professional career programming/developing
>Person uses multiple linux distros and never needs any help resources to do or fix anything
>Knows nothing about hardware

Why is this so common? I meet so many people who know all these programming languages, have built X and Y, use a linux distro yet they know absolutely nothing about hardware?

>>62473982
>>62474282
oh and deoplete with sources to your chosen languages for keyword completion
https://github.com/Shougo/deoplete.nvim

>>62474268
It's not for emulating keyboard input. Normally there is no need for emulating keypresses so that's why you won't find any standard GUI's installed by default to do it.

Usually needing to emulate keypresses means you're doing something hacky, Because otherwise you could just program/script your hotkey to do what you want directly instead of needing to inject input into programs.

You can definitely do it though, but just don't expect it to be standard on any OS. In fact other OSes might even go out of their way to prevent you from doing such things.

xdotool is what you need. Keep trying.
I noticed in one of those other posts you linked to you had nested quotes

"xdotool key "alt+shift+r""

that's not going to work. Quotes don't nest. You need to either use an escape or switch one of the sets of quotes to single quotes.

Thought you guys might apreciate this
>>>/mlp/30951145

>>62474297
Basically described me. Explain why I need to give a shit about hardware. The kid at Maplin knows all the new shit that's out, I just ask him. Literal idiocracy-tier retards get obsessed over hardware. Why do you think people like me want consumashit threads banned?

>>62474333
I did, anon, thank you. My daughter watches that garbage so I have a very passing interest in the merchandise and how to find it at the cheapest price point possible.

>>62474297
When your software is cucked, all that is left for you is circlejerking hardware.

>>62474357
Is your daughter hot?

>>62474364
Anon, come on... She's like 6.

>>62474297
They are two totally different things, and don't even necessarily have the same attractions at all. Having a love for hardware is a very different thing with little overlap in having a love of software. Why would it surprise you that people know more about one than the other?

>>62474332
>that's not going to work. Quotes don't nest.
You're a retard. xbindkeys isn't a shell. The outer quotes are removed before the line executes. They exist for the simple purpose to tell xbindkeys that a command stats and ends.

Oh, and it works.

>>62474361
>post ur speccy

>>62474381
Suck my cock faggot

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>>62473983
I just remembered that there's actually a button that does the same as the hotkey.

It's not as convenient as the hotkey (and I'm curious about why it doesn't work), but it's good enough, for now.

Still, a thank you for everyone that helped me! I learned a bit about xkeybinds and xdotool. I need the former to set up my logitech mouse extra keys some day.

>>62474332
>Because otherwise you could just program/script your hotkey to do what you want directly instead of needing to inject input into programs
Doesn't that both assume programming knowledge and the program being modifiable, though?

>>62474335
>>62474361
I at least thought these people would have general knowledge though. A friend of a friend got a new computer today for work, they develop apps for Android and needed a newer machine to run VM/Emulations. They handed in a i7-4930K with 32GB of ram, two 512GB SSD's in RAID 0, three 4TB hard drives and two GTX 780 Ti's for an i5 6500, 32GB ram, one 512GB SSD, one 2TB hard drive and a GTX 950.

>>62474402
I would if I could.

>>62474410
>Doesn't that both assume programming knowledge and the program being modifiable, though?
Yes, but that's why it's not something normal users do.
It's not like I'm trying to tell you to give up anon, I'm just saying this is why there aren't any GUI's in your default installation that have a user friendly interface for injecting keyboard input into other applications.
If there were a need for a typical user to do such things then someone would probably take the effort to modify the software to cut out the middle man for them.

any good hardware info command in terminal?

Hi, I need help. It is the first time that I made a Linux server. Steps which are irrelevant in my opinion are not mentioned:
> I started a VirtualBox with "vagrant" and added an user.
> I gave him sudo rights.
> Gave him Key Based Authentication.
> Forced Key based Authentication by changing: /etc/ssh/sshd_confi.
> Restart sshd service.
> enabled all outgoing ports with "ufw".
> diasbled all incoming ports with ufw.
> enabled specific incoming ports with ufw: 22, 2222/tcp, 22/tcp.
> enabled ufw.


I could not believe that everything seems to work fine.
But now to my question:
> Before I did the last steps I always had to halt, start and log into my virtualbox by typing

vagrant halt

and so on.
> When I try that now the terminal tells me " default: VM not created. Moving on...".
> I can connect to my server with ssh like my intention was but I am trying to understand which step exactly caused this change. And where is the server running if not in a virtual machine now? You see I still have a lot to learn but would appreciate a little bit of help. Thank you!

Why has Adobe stopped development on Adobe Reader for Linux? Those sons of whores.

>>62474463
It's probably spyware anyway

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>>62474007
>>62474297
>>62474457
>>62474463
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>62474463
Why would you want adobe reader? There are enough nice readers out there.

>>62474463
I sincerely thank them for it. Adobe "software" is dangerious bug-ridden garbage so not having it on Linux is a welcome plus.

>>62474373
So yes.

how can I run some vim commands on a file automatically?

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I want to switch from Manjaro Linux to another distribution because of RAM usage (I have 4Gb)

Is there something lightweight yet flexible like Manjaro?

>>62474523
>because of RAM usage (I have 4Gb)
wat, do you even know how ram works?
the hell are you doing that 4GB arent enough for any distro?

>>62474536
He's probably doing video editing or android development. Or he's just a retarded nigger.

>>62474463
Adobe/Acrobat reader was never very good and after they started integrating "cloud" features it became shit.
Acrobat Pro though is a whole different deal. It's proprietary but it's a program that is missed in Linux

>>62474548
>missing proprietary software

>>62474481
What is Stallman carrying in his arms, there?

>>62474523
Alpine non-GNU/Linux

>>62474572
Hope.

>>62474523
What kind of shit do you have installed that 4GB RAM isn't enough?

>>62474561
>being a GNU+Fanatic
Some proprietary software is nice. Like Irfanview or Winamp.

>>62474548
>>62474467
>>62474493
>>62474515
Because I need to fill out government forms and these don't work well on Evince or any of the other free shit.

>>62474522
You mean this?

$ cat foo.txt 
2
3
1

$ vim -E -s foo.txt <<-EOF
> :sort
> :update
> :quit
> EOF

 cat foo.txt 
1
2
3

>>62474585
tell your gubbermint that they should stop cuckolding citizens

>>62474585
Have you tried running it in Wine?

>>62474522
vim -c 'something' file

>>62474522
That's what "ex" is for. Example:

ex -s '+%s/foo/bar/g' '+%p' '+q!' myfile

pls help>>62474417

>>62474604
>Shitbong government
>"Stop fucking over citizens please"
Lul

>>62474610
Worth a try I guess

>>62474584
>Some proprietary software is nice.
Good job completely ignoring the obvious ethical issue. It's not fanaticism. It's called not being a hypocrite.

>What kind of shit do you have installed that 4GB RAM isn't enough?
The distribution you're using has very little affect on the amount of ram you're using. And while 4gb of ram is sufficient for any single application you have open, most normal people have multiple applications open at once, plus some extra daemons for, say, file sharing.

What are the benefits of Slackware?

>>62474644
>Good job completely ignoring the obvious ethical issue. It's not fanaticism. It's called not being a hypocrite.
I'm a pragmatist so you can go fuck yourself with ethical issues. I do like free software better, but the ultimate measure for me is whether the program works well. I can hardly be called a hypocrite because this very much aligns with my principles (which are obviously different from yours).

>The distribution you're using has very little affect on the amount of ram you're using.
Congratulations for completely missing the point.

>And while 4gb of ram is sufficient for any single application you have open, most normal people have multiple applications open at once, plus some extra daemons for, say, file sharing.
And this is exactly what I was asking. What kind of shit do you have installed that 4 GB of RAM isn't enough.

>>62474696
epeen

>>62474696
All in one distro for noob
Bloatware for experienced user

>>62474696
no systemd

>>62474696
Forcing you to get familiar with basic and standard tools like ldd to find dependencies, not being dependent on big and complex distro-specific package managers and in general demystifying the magic around package management. But you can learn these skills in any distro and at the end big and complex package managers offer a lot of convenience and let you focus on what you care about and not micromanaging your OS.

>>62474696
Stress-free distro with old Unix-y feel.
Try it out for yourself.

>>62474742
You can select exactly which packages to install during the installation. That is, if you weren't a complete newfag.

>>62474457
I would love to get an answer!

>>62474779
Too much text.

>>62474765
I always deselect xap kde xfce and some shit I obviously don't need but it becomes pretty annoying if I want minimal install in autism level

>>62474798
Then skip the steps faggot.

will lunix skillz impress the girls?

>>62474738
>What kind of shit do you have installed that 4 GB of RAM isn't enough[?]
I'm not sure if you were restating your question to prove a point, or the other post wasn't sufficient, but, to answer your question, a web browser, a music player, text editor, anything related to content creation especially, certain file-systems, your kernel ...; none of these are a serious burden individually, but by simply using a computer as a desktop, you're going to accrue a lot of overhead.

>>62474800
How many times a year do you have to do a complete reinstall, though?
Besides, you need only one working install and then you can rsync system files to other machines, change a few configs, and install the bootloader.

Trying to understand chroot.
What does it exactly and for what situations is it good for?

>>62474849
It will definly impress men.

>>62474738
GNU/Linux was made precisely ethical reasons. If you want to see the product of "pragmatism" in free software, use FreeBSD. Oh, wait, no driver support? I guess the devs intended for you to SSH into FreeBSD VM on MacOS. That's too bad.

Also, I didn't mean to reply to you on that last post. Sorry about that.

>>62474849
No
Girls only care about
>confidence
>stable income
>both of the above
If you linux skills bring you stable income and make you confident and social then you will get girls
(and no, this isn't a woman-hate post, women are right to have these priorities and not giving a fuck about trivial shit like linux skills)

>>62474872
>tfw to autistic not to reinstall every month

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Have a problem

Just did a fresh install of arch but my grub os-prober doesn't seem to be fucking working even though generation of the grub config explicitly states its found 2 other OS's on the system

Manual menu entries leading to my copy of windows works but only AFTER booting the one of debian, which leads back to grub for some reason?

Anyway I can fucking fix os-prober so I don't have to do this fuck around each time I wanna boot windows?

>>62474873
It start a shell with with a root directory different from your real root.

Let's say you run gentoo, but also have debian installed on another partition, mounted to /mnt/deb. Running

chroot /mnt/deb /bin/bash

kinda "puts you" in debian. The system is dormant, so no init system and services running. You can now run commands from there and from the programs' viewpoint they are running from debian.
You have to mount up a few directory for shit to work:

mount proc -t proc /proc
mount udev -t devtmpfs /dev

chrooting allows you to
-do maintenance on a dormant system (updating, cleanup, changing passwords, repairing the boot loader, changing a bad fstab preventing you from booting etc)
-run a full featured distro from another (usually a i386 system from an amd64 one). this is usually done to run some legacy programs or to set up a build environment to target different distros/distro versions
-install certain distros from another, notably gentoo and debian based ones (using debootstrap)

>>62474849
it will impress G.I.R.L.-s.

>>62474955
Holy crap, I can't believe I ever forgot about JerkCity? Now that I think about it, I'm astonished someone hasn't already spammed the /g/ """"humor"""" thread with strips from this comic, yet.

>>62474861
I can't quantify "anything related to content creation" so the biggest RAM-eaters I see are web browser and desktop environment.
As far as web browsers go you are screwed becasue you have two real choices and both eat RAM like crazy. There are some experiments to be had (qutebrowser?) but at a certain loss of functionality.
Desktop environments are another matter entirely. If you need a good desktop without much effort, you can try Xfce. If you want to save even more RAM and don't mind configuring it yourself, go with a simple window manager and add neccessary things yourself. For example FVWM is ridiculously configurable while being light on resources.
Although, if you are big on content creation the the best solution might be buying another 4 gigs of RAM.

>>62474904
No. GNU was made for ethical reason. Linux is a very pragmatic venture to make the best Unix-like kernel. It's free because that makes the most sense given the objective, but don't confuse it for some moral crusade.
As for individual distros, there are variety of reasons. Ranging from mostly ethical (Debian), to entirely pragmatic (Fedora, openSUSE).
I also fail to see how BSDs are relevant here.

>>62474916
I used to do this when I was distrohopping.

>>62475001
I am so confused at this conversation. I don't even know what I'm arguing about, any more. Can we just call it a truce, anon?

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>>62474996
JC is too niche

>>62475014
Ok.

>boot live usb Ubuntu
>open firefox
>entire system crashes, no response, had to cut power

>second boot
>firefox opens
>youtube plays
>no sound
>cannot select usb soundcard for output

If I plug it in it works for a moment, but if I touch anything in the sound settings it dies.

Should I even try to fix this, or should I just download Xubuntu instead? Everything works in Xubuntu, it just has ridiculous tearing issues that I can't fix.

>>62475089
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fwupd/+bug/1574079

I found a related bug, but I'm too simple to understand what to do about it. I've seen suggestions to remove fwupd, but I have no idea what the consequences would be.

>>62475089
This is weird, Ubuntu and Xubuntu are the same thing, if sound or hardware doesn't work in one it shouldn't work in the other
And Xfce doesn't have tearing issues
Just use TearFree in xorg.conf or Compton
If you can get tear free in gnome/kde/unity/cinnamon you can get it in Xfce

I switched back to Linux after using Windows for the past few years.

And nothing has changed.

I cannot properly use all the features of my mouse, keyboard, headset, motherboard, or sound card because the company's software doesn't support Linux.

I cannot play my favourite games (Overwatch and GTA V) because they're not supported. More than half my Steam library is unsupported. So I have to spend hours and hours trying to figure out how to get it working with Wine and various drivers. And even if I do get it to launch, there is absolutely no way that it would work correct. I would never be able to play the game the way it's meant to be played unless I switch back to Windows.

It sucks because developers don't want to spend money, time, and resources developing for a platform that accounts for less than 1% of the gaming market and less than 4% of the PC market. And at the same time, the market doesn't increase because no one develops for it. Sort of a catch 22.

Linux, despite what everyone in this thread wants to claim, is far from being PC ready. FAR from it.

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>install nouveau because /g/ swears by it
>fucking tearing and artefacting to the point where whatever's in focus on my screen is a mess of pixels

>>62475186
>>>/v/
>>>/vg/owg/
>>>/vg/gtag/

hit the road.

>>62475186
Yeah, from what I know linux is really meant more for working then having games

>>62475221
Disable tearing, pleab.

>>62475175
I found someone else with the same sound issue, he switched to Kubuntu and it worked. So it seems like Ubuntu fucked up something.

Now that I think of it, my brother did claim his USB sound card doesn't work in Ubuntu a while back. I didn't believe him because it worked in Xubuntu.... yeah well. He switched to OSX, lol.

I've tried all the "easy" tearing solutions, in the composer and even in the AMD driver back when I had the proprietary one, they reduce it a little, but do not completely solve it. The AMD Tearfee wrecked the framerate in 3d applications completely.

I don't have any tearing in Ubuntu right now, so I don't know whats up.

>>62475186
>mouse, keyboard, headset, motherboard, or sound card
>needs "the company's software"
wtf man. Just plug it in. It works. Continue your life.

It's not a gamerboi platform. Go buy a playstation.

>>62475186
GNU/Linux is ready, the gaming world is just lacking behind.

>>62475186
>linux isn't good for games and gaming hardware
>linux is worthless as pc os
OK, use Windows then
But don't suggest that GNU/Linux is not an excellent and much better OS for many people
Not everybody plays game

Anecdotally, I don't even understand how PC gamers put up with gaming on Windows
I don't play games any more but I remember not that long ago it was
>put cd/dvd in drive
>install
>launch game
>find a nocdpatch to play without the cd
A few years ago, after being away from games I bought Far Cry 3 on Steam, it looked cool
I was greeted by a torrent of updates/drm/logins/creating accounts
It was a bloody mess that didn't even work right and I had to search online to find solutions for the crappy drm
And the solutions were shit and fragile
I just didn't bother and never even got to see the game after the first 10 minutes, I was so frustrated

For me, Linux is better than Windows for games
I have Quake, Doom, ScummVM for the rare case I want to play something casual. I much prefer these older games than the new ones
I have minesweeper and other simple games like that without ads and xbox-logins (unlike Windows 10)
And if I wanted to play games I would just buy a console, it's proprietary as fuck but so is Windows 10 and at least the console works

Dealing with Windows 10, crappy fixes and drm just to play a shitty game that is mostly cutscenes that will be forgotten in a month or two is too much autism

>>62475186
is this pasta?

>>62475344
>insert CD
>logins
Optical media are dead and people are logged into gaming platforms like Steam 24/7 anyways.

>>62475376
And you call that progress?
Fuck this shit

>>62475165
Removed fwupd. If I plug the usb in, it works as long as I don't touch any settings. Only way to switch between HDMI output and USB sound is to unplug the cable. Also it seems I have to unplug the cable everytime I boot the machine to get sound back.

How convenient.

>>62475394
I don't miss optical media the slightest bit and platforms like Steam are convenient for those who buy games.

I still pirate almost anything (because poorfag) anyways and it has never been easier to do so.

What are some cool graphical programs?

>>62475431
Blender is motherfucking glorious, senpai.

>>62475431
InkScape

>>62475431
Your preferred terminal emulator and your preferred browser is all you need.

>>62475431
gElemental
Stellarium

Long time gnome user. Every fucking thing on my computer is hot-keyed

Opening programs, File manager opening in a given directory, etc

Redpill me on Tiling window managers

>>62475431
Mandelbulber is a nice toy.

>>62475089
>decide to install Ubuntu anyway, surely there is a solution to these issues
>installer crashes after selecting language
>try again
>same thing

I thought Ubuntu was the stable and easy choice, what the hell is going on?

>>62475512
Neat!

>>62475500
https://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html

How would you sell lunix to a macuser?

>>62475618
GUN/Lunix*

>>62475618
Why? They have already escaped Windows, good for them.

Maybe tell them they don't need a 2000€/£/$ new computer just to shitpost on facebook? But apple people don't operate on logic..

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>>62475634

>>62475651
>impling macos is better than windows

>>62475618
You can't
To many windows users you can sell linux if you say
>it's just as fast or faster
>safer, more stable
>cheaper
>you don't have to update the hardware
>your programs (firefox, email, skype, libreoffice) will work
Most windows users don't give a fuck about windows, they want something that works and it's cheap

Most mac users are a complete other deal
>linux is an imitation of mac because I heard mac is unix underneath
>what do you mean it's not supported? there is not a single company behind it?
>eww... you run linux in a no name desktop pc? that's really unprofessional anon
>this is not professional anon. mac software and hardware is business ready and serious
>proceed to record a poo animoji on their new "business" iphone x
>if apple doesn't support this feature I don't need it, stop being stack in the past anon, apple is the future and it's cloud-ready, mac and ios is professional and business ready software and hardware
Granted, not all mac users are like that
Those who buy macs and iphones for the status or getting on facebook they may hear you and they can be convinced by the cheaper and the just-works arguments
The total idiots are the so called mac-power-users and it-apple-fanatics. You just don't deal them and fucking ignore them, corporate cock-sucking tools

>>62475680
>implying it is not
top argument

>>62475056
That's the point

>>62475500
I'm pretty sure there's a tiling plugin for GNOME

>>62475680
>>62475705
>Implying the quality of software is even relevant if the software is proprietary.
Just ignore them, anon. If they don't appreciate the freedom free software provides, they're never going to understand.

>>62475556

I am tired of gnome and just looking if this is something worth my attention. It looks interesting, but i know too little about twm-s and can't say for sure if they are they suitable for every-day work

>>62475797
>>62475835
Oh, wrong person.

>>62475089
>>62475523
>download Xubuntu instead
>boot up
>everything works. wifi, sound, browsing the web without crashing the system, using the installer.
I don't get it, but I'll just accept the situation and keep using Xubuntu...

Maybe I'll give Lubuntu a chance once it has a stable qt version.

>>62475826
And that's not even the worst I have heard
I have even heard the argument from mac-fanatics that the glued and impossible to repair mac and ios hardware is a sign of superiority of the apple way because it keeps away those unprofessional and unapproved-by-apple repair technicians
And when I raised them the argument that you should be able to repair the hardware you buy they laughed at me and told me I should grow up, stop being stack in the past, and it's unprofessional to want open hardware and standards, "modern technology" (whatever that means) can't support that
I asked them if they would like a car that is locked down completely by computers and they said yes if there is a company like apple behind it because a company like apple knows what's best for them and there should not be independent mechanics and non-approved by the mother-company parts

Then I just stopped arguing

>>62475909
>Then I just stopped arguing
But, anon, you're arguing right now. Stop doing this to yourself.

Which distribution has the smoothest upgrades? I don't want a rolling-release as I don't need or want the newest packages, Ubuntu LTS is fresh enough for me, but I'm worried about the upgrade every two years.

>>62475706
>>62475680
>>62475651
>>62475618
>>62475826

I have to say, people not involved with free software simply don't care about freedom. Not because they don't care about their freedoms, but because they don't even know what that means. I can tell that because the same happened with myself. Before I tried GNU/Linux I couldn't give a wet fuck about my freedoms. Thoughts about freedom come later; when you already know what free software offers only then you can feel the real downsides of proprietary software, when you actually feel locked out, cant modify/fix things, and all you have is blind faith, but when you come from botnet country where proprietary software is normal, you just don't care. So, the freedom argument woun't make people hard. You need better arguments.
That said, windows users already realize that they're trapped, you can tell that by the many people who still stick to win 7, but macfags? Macfags are hard to convert. I guess it's because unlike Windows users who basically all dislike Microsoft, Mac users are actually Apple fans. Which makes the thing even more dangerous and difficult tbqh.

>>62476074
I dont use Linux for (((muh freedoms))), I use it because it's better for development.

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>>62476168

>>62476168
Pretty much this, I use linux because it doesn't get in the way of actually using the computer...

>>62476301
>>62476168
linux is a kernel
>>62476074
>>62475705
>>62475618
mac is a device

>when you browse some "top-developer with >100 stars"s dotfiles and you find a bare zshrc with aliases to some osx crap and stuff like alias c='clear'

>>62476168
This so fucking hard

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>>62476432
>>62476301
>>62476168

This shit makes me so mad.
>application keybinds
>movement: hjkl
>vertical split: v
>horizontal split:
THERE IS NO SANE SOLUTION
HELP

>>62476447
>Every time someone has ever said >this it was a samefag
Really made me think
Upvoted

>>62476493
use the second character
>h(o)rizontal
>v(e)rtical

>>62476493
- |

I just learned about tmpfs and edited my fstab to enable tmpfs on my .cache directory. Are there any downsides to this? To me it seems like a smart thing to do.

What are the benefits of Ubuntu over Debian?

How do i download whole website on Linux? Interested in saving installgentoo wiki.

>>62476970
use the linux downloader

>>62476970
The the manpage of GNU wget.
Hints:
>-m
>-k

>>62477066
s/The/Check/

>>62475852
Yeah well the tearing is back and as bad as ever. Vsync in the compositor didn't help.

>>62476495
absolute shitposting

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Is it possible that there's no simple way to just download sources and compile them later in Gentoo?

>>62476970
Stop DDOSing websites. Use the internet archives.
https://web.archive.org/web/20170703150248/https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

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>>62477253
Nevermind, Arch Wiki apparently has better info than Gentoo on useful emerge commands.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Rosetta

>>62473959
Ladies and Gents, I have a grave issue.

My LUKS-encrypted hard drive fucked up something and now when I boot, it goes to the ALERT! BOOT drive not found, dropped to shell!

When I run blkid, it shows me that LUKS is on /dev/sda5
Anything I can do if my boot procedure skips the grub menu entirely? Has my want for boot time killed my Debian install?

>>62477253
>>62477438
man emerge is your friend for a month at least after installing gentoo

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Damn shellcheck is so nice, just saved me from a unless | wc -l in combination with grep.
>Consider using grep -c
INSTAL SHELLCHECK!!!

doe redshift help or is it just placebo?

wget $( curl https://boards.4chan.org/faggy/thread | grep -oE 'i\.4cdn\.org[^\ ]*\.jpg' )

r8

>>62478315

wget -nc -nd -nv -e robots=off -ER html,s.jpg -rHD i.4cdn.org <url>

Get on my level.

Anyone here running their media servers with MiniDLNA? Any ideas why larger files don't appear in media's directory? I tried to restart the service and reboot the system but they're still not there.

Is there anything about Fedora that's so bad I shouldn't use it?

>>62478596
systemd, red hat ecosystem in general, trolling

>>62478596
The name.

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>>62478596

is debian w/ cinnamon good for a beginner? i already know some stuff from fucking around with the ubuntu bash thingy in w10

sry for my ignorance

>>62478756
nice botnet

>>62478769
yes

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>>62478769

>>62478806
kek

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Will the WSL kill Lunix on the desktop?

>>62478278
It works, but you have to be sure to change from the defaults. This is currently my ~/.config/redshift.conf

[redshift]
temp-day=5500
temp-night=3000
location-provider=manual
brightness-day=1.0
brightness-night=0.8

[manual]
lat=my current lat in decimal
lon=my current long in decimal

My sleep schedule was pretty fucking bad until I put brightness-night at 0.8. Now I actually feel tired at reasonable parts of the night.

>>62478278
It help.

>>62479025
Will try these settings.
Do you turn it off when watching movies?

>>62479023
*at the moment* there is nothing to kill.
naxt ransomware companies will kill winfaggotery.

>>62479047
I usually do, yeah, especially when it's something I'm excited for. With other things, I might get lazy.

Now that I think about it, I probably could make some hotkeys to kill/start redshift at my leisure...

>>62479047
>>62479188
redshift srsly needs some --exclude=<window class> flag
not sure if this is possible

>>62479229
>>>/redshift issue tracker/

good thread

Hello guys! I've used Linux for years, tried Gentoo, Source Mage and so forth. I've always used a DE however. I'm finally thinking about switching to a tiling window manager, but I have a few questions.

Which one has the best mouse/normie support? Moving windows with a mouse would be a nice feature. Having window controls (Max / Close) is also a necessitiy (alternatively, I could create scripts and make them clickable via a bar?). I'd like other people to be able to use the computer too (mostly for internet and games).

Also, what else is necessary besides the window manager and a launcher (dmenu/rofi)? Especially if I want to easily switch between multiple screens (remove & add screens) and multiple audio devices and soundcards? Can I get an interface as friendly as the GNOME/KDE utilities, or do I have to create pulseaudio scripts?

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>>62479571
Literally babbies first tiling wm:
https://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html

If you're currently on some DE with login manage, just install i3wm, logout, select i3, login, read the manpage and learn the hotkeys.

You can also run i3 together with your GNOME or KDE if you want that.

How comebarely anything changes when try to change the touchpad sensitivity on linux mint?

Is there a 3rd party mouse sensitivity program I'm not aware of?

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>>62479023
Considering is no more than a marketing stunt, no, but they scare people into thinking this is the case although we had things like mingw since decades.
If you want to help bringing the year of the GNU/Linux desktop demand to the Fine brothers to make an episode of teens react to GNU/Linux https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ucCxtgN6sc
We

Look at the views!

>>62480605
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html

>>62480605
EMBRACE

>>62480652
EXTEND

>>62480605
>we're the good guys, look

>>62480669
EXTERMINATE

>>62480736
>>62480669
>>62480652
never got this meme, pls enlighten may new

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>>62480669
DIE.
(nothing will stop us.)

>>62480764
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

>>62479025
try gamma instead of brightness, 0.9 is nice

trying to install xubuntu on my toaster from a flash drive and it freezes at the third step. wat do

>>62480883
never mind i just had top be patient

Hi guys. I'm messing around Void for fun and I'm trying to get S/PDIF for it. I was a little close because I had at least HDMI in another speakers, but after a reboot (I though I broke something) I don't have even HDMI. pavucontrol seems to be working and pulseaudio didn't report any error. What am I missing?

>>62478775
What about it makes it part of the botnet?

>>62474449
dmidecode
lshw
lscpu
lspci
lsusb
lsblk

>>62480930
Update.

I'm retarded, I recovered HDMI. Still not S/PDIF though.

>>62480945
>>62480883
Welcome ~.

>>62474449
inxi for anything, Sysbench for benchmarking, lshw for hardware specifically

>>62474449
https://n0where.net/system-information-script/

>>62477253
But you can?

>>62477438
That's because there's such thing as a man page, anon.

>>62478278
I just turn down the contrast and brightness in my monitor. Using redshift means that colors don't render the way they do on other people's computers, which can be a big issue if you're at all creating content other people are going to see.

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how to fix this? pls halp

ret_status="%(?:%{$fg_bold[green]%}(｡>﹏<｡):%{$fg_bold[red]%}(×﹏×) %s)"

>>62481310
fixed

Is OpenSUSE Thumbleweed acceptable for desktop usage (as in, does not fucking break xorg every update)?
It is a rolling release distro btw.

>>62481478
[closed]

>>62481584
Not-a-bug

>>62481600
[locked and limited conversation to collaborators]

>>62480930
>>62480978
Little bump. I feel like I'm missing something. Everything's done as it should be, but the speakers are still muted.

>>62481644
>>62481600
>>62481584
Well guys, when your issue tracker ends up being some sort of meme subreddit, what else would you do?

>>62481666
did you unmute in alsamixer, satan?

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>>62481731

>>62480930
Unistall pulseaudio https://pastebin.com/EsR0mgLv

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Install Adnauseam
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adnauseam/

>>62481765
Yep. the thing is, in pavucontrol the sound is on. I mean, the bar moves up and down, but speakers are still with no sound. May I provide some info you need_

>>62481848
How is this even related to GNU/Linux?

>>62481939
Not him but if it kills the botnet count with me

>>62473959
How do I get Linux running on something like a GameCube? I've heard about it before but I'm struggling to find much about it online

>>62481951
GAHNOO plus Linux is not designed to run locked down shit hardware like that. Consider buying any ARM board and put one of dem emulation/gaming oriented gnu/linux distros on that. More games, more chance for success.

>>62481951
http://www.gc-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page

installed fedora, having problems installing discord. everything else works like a charm though, tried the

sudo dnf copr enable vishalv/discord-canary

however it doesn't recognize the repository

>>62482072
Holy crap, thanks!

So, I've tried 3 different distros, Ubuntu Peppermint and Mint.
Can't get my 1440p monitor working through displayport on any of them. 1080p DVI monitor works grand, but the 1440p is my primary, and as soon as it's plugged in, or if it is plugged in, the entire system locks up.
I got "link training failed" on Peppermint and a black screen on all the rest.
Looked it up and got "don't buy nvidia", unfortunately I'm past the point of no return on that one. GPU is a 1070.

Anyone knows a distro shipping with Advanced Copy https://github.com/atdt/advcpmv

What is that image where some guy has his debian laptop taken by his mum and why does /g/ get so triggered over it?

>>62482226
Gee, I don't know why they would get triggerd by it either

>>62482226
1
2
34

>>62482340
Well, yeah, that's annoying, but otherwise?

>>62482354
Lurk around, it is usually posted like on 3 or 4 threads around.

Also bump
>>62481882

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>>62482226

oh the feel
>deleted all program starter hotkeys
>just one for dmenu

>>62482433
>sister got onto the computer
hold the fuck up did he not have a login password? or did she just know the password?

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This is more for PC building threads, but I might as well ask here since there were some problems with compilation on Linux with Ryzen. Is there anything I need to know about Ryzen before I do a slight upgrade to it? Mobo's PCIe slots burst into treats, so instead of looking for another z77 board who knows where, I'd rather go and so a slight upgrade to AMD while I'm at it.

installing xubuntu off a usb stick and it freezes on the screen where it asks to install updates and third party software
anyone know why this is? should i reformat the hard drive? try 32 bit xubuntu (it's an old computer)?

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>>62482433
fixed it

>>62482474
You're new here, aren't you?

>>62482471
Is this a good feel or a bad feel?

>>62482544
ye

>>62482471
>>62482562

using dmenu myself and I tell you is good

>>62482433
oh gawd

>>62482582
Is it good because of its adherence to suckless philosophy or because you've never used a launcher before?

>>62482622
I got dmenu binded to a key and is blazing fast, other launchers I've used are slow and cluttered

>>62482582
Only thing which sucks with dmenu is that you cant use your shell aliases / functions.

Just installed Ubuntu on an ancient netbook and using it to run PiHole, and it's fucking lit

What network storage software should I run?

>>62482690
There is a patch for that, use dmenu2

>>62482667
Compared to krunner, dmenu is very slow for me.
I have tried to make it work, but it is not good enough for me.
I think the approach is good though.

I am trying to install a program (Aseprite) on Fedora. I can get rpm packages from (https://pkgs.org/download/aseprite), but these are for Mageia and OpenSUSE. When I try to install any of them via dnf, I get the following error.

Error: 
 Problem: conflicting requests
  - nothing provides libgif.so.7()(64bit) needed by aseprite-1.1.7-1.2.x86_64

However, said package doesn't seem to be available to Fedora. Is there a workaround for this? Would I need to fulfill that dependency if I were to compile it?

Sorry if it's a basic question.

Does the audio player which supports marks/tags for tracks, stores them in the library, and has an remote control app for android exists?

>>62482724
>it's fucking lit
Spotted the normie

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>>62482667
dmenu isn't even working for me, ive got it bound to a key alike - however, when i type anything in, nothing shows up. nothing at all. even if i type something in i know i have installed, it will not launch the thing

that said, it may be due to this crappy laptop hardware. GTK is also refusing to work-- no icons; checkmarks are gone, buttons are invisible, and XFCE4-Terminal is completely blanked out. toolbars not even displaying... just a big black box. as seen here.

hijacking a reply to ask for maybe a little bit of help - i'm not a 'noob' at troubleshooting, so i've already tried as many things as i could. reinstalling GTK, checking for missing deps, switching themes, rebuilding icon cache, etc etc. my only viable solution I can think of is switching to kde openbox instead of gtk. but that would slow this 1gb ram laptop down quite a bit

>>62482990
of course launching the problematic applications from the terminal and showing us the output would help

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>>62483038
ok

also i figured out the dmenu thing and i feel like a dunce now. dmenu_run not just dmenu (what's the dmenu command alone do, anyways?
here

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>>62483086
>>62483038
and regular gtk app obconf

>>62482077
>installed
pls respond ;-;

asking this again --
what DE has slow speeds for the mouse movement?

>>62483175
There's a field in KDE for Mouse Acceleration, but I don't seem to notice any difference in my computer.

>>62480945

the goog

i figured it out and feel stupid yet again
one graphics driver package wasnt installed.
sorry for the trouble- polite sage

>>62482582
>>62482690
I use rofi, personally. Works like a charm.

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can somebody help with this
>>62483510

what's the best email client to use besides thunderbird? i'm using xubuntu.

How to enable colors in vim when in a tty?

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In this moment I am euphoric

>>62483805
install cmatrix

>>62483805
nice

No matter what distro I use, linux video screen refresh seems off. I still get slight tearing even using a compositor. It just isn't as good as windows. It's really annoying to the eyes.

>>62483805
Welcome.

>>62483880
input in flex scanner failed

>>62483825

compton  --config /dev/null --backend glx --vsync opengl-swc --paint-on-overlay

>>62483880

I've tried creating In /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/

20-radeon.conf

Section "Device"
Identifier "Radeon"
Driver "radeon"
Option "TearFree" "on"
EndSection

Why do graphic cards have tearfree options?
Are there people who demand tearing enabled by default?

>>62483943
tearfree options are only there for those that have tearing.

I dont use a compitor or tearfree options and i dont have tearing at all

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>>62483817

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>>62483967
Much better.

>>62482736
How? I can't find any package by that name.

>>62483967
kek 10/10

so is there a reason my mpv won't install on fedora 26? I have the rpmfusion repo, but it keeps giving me this

 /var/cache/dnf/rpmfusion-free-updates-61fbef18af447a98/packages/mpv-0.26.0-3.fc26.x86_64.rpm: Header V4 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 9690e4af: NOKEY
Curl error (37): Couldn't read a file:// file for file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora-26 [Couldn't open file /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora-26]

>>62482858
Bump?

>>62483996
2nd link on search engine
You literally didnt even try

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>>62483805
>>62483967
10/10

>>62483805
Ikea desk?

Found out I was using the wrong settings. >>62483921


To correct screen tearing I was having with AMDGPU, I followed the Arch wiki and did the following.

created 20-amdgpu.conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d

Section "Device"
Identifier "AMD"
Driver "amdgpu"
Option "DRI" "3"
Option "TearFree" "true"
EndSection

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>>62483967
dank

>>62484041
Ikea Malm with the drawers, I like it a lot

>>62474597
possible in emacs

>>62484259
?

>tfw thinkpad grill on num anal class

>>62484400
wasted

What's a good cheap laptop I can buy to put Linux on

Have some screensavers and other ASCII art for the terminal
terminal-screensaver https://github.com/xiongchiamiov/terminal-screensaver
rickrollrc https://github.com/keroserene/rickrollrc
nyan.sh https://gist.github.com/wting/5278321
Asciiquarium https://github.com/cmatsuoka/asciiquarium
rice https://github.com/janbrennen/rice
also check cowsay (and cowthink), tty-clock, and bb (from AAlib)

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Can someone tell me what he's using for listening music? (left console)

>>62484792
ncmpplmnopxyzcpp

>>62484574
Thinkpad go on /tpg/

>>62484792
mpsyt, pretty awesome youtube console player

>>62484888
It doesn't really look like my install of mpsyt. What has been riced? The console or mpsyt

>>62484792

Youtube-viewer

>>62484792
gentoo-tube

>>62484792
hackervidz-plus

>>62484921
Only correct post.

>>62484792
But srsly try mpsyt. Pretty underrated thingy.

>>62484986
I have mpsty, it's alright but sometimes I need the pictures to detect shitty versions from actual music.

>>62484023
anyone?

newbie here,
So i installed KDE plasma onubuntu and have been trying to use it but it doesn't seem to register any applications in the menu at all or pick up possible applications for opening files/whatever. I've tried changing the icon packages/reinstalling them and install muon as someone else suggested. Any ideas?

this is after i had to reinstall KDE the first time as it just launched a black screen

hackerthread: >>62485096

What's a good live-distro?
Ubuntu?

>>62485133
What, like for a live medium? Depends on what you need. I love sysrescuecd

>>62485303
Live-CD, i want to run a distro on my usb-stick.

>>62482858
Anyone?