Why do you guys hate Discord? Don't you see that IRC

>>62469892
Discord is bad because it's centralized and it has no encryption support. check out Matrix.

>>62469892
literally botnet

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>>62469892
>"muh modern"
Go back to bed, pajeet.

Unnecessary bloat

IRC is the terrorists chat

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https://discordapp.com/privacy
INFORMATION WE COLLECT
Information You Provide: We collect information from you when you voluntarily provide such information, such as when you register for access to the Services or use certain Services. Information we collect may include but not be limited to username, email address, and any messages, images, transient VOIP data (to enable communication delivery only) or other content you send via the chat feature.

Data We Collect Automatically: When you interact with us through the Services, we receive and store certain information such as an IP address, device ID, and your activities within the Services. We may store such information or such information may be included in databases owned and maintained by affiliates, agents or service providers. [..]

Aggregated Information: [...] we may conduct research on our customer demographics, interests and behavior based on the information collected. This research may be compiled and analyzed on an aggregate basis, and we may share this aggregate data with our affiliates, agents and business partners. We may also disclose aggregated user statistics in order to describe our services to current and prospective business partners, and to other third parties for other lawful purposes.

Info through other Services: You may give us permission to collect your information in other services. For example, you may connect a social networking service ("SNS") such as Facebook or Twitter to your Discord account. When you do this, it allows us to obtain information from those accounts (for example, your friends or contacts).

>Business Transfers: As we develop our business, we might sell or buy businesses or assets. In the event of a corporate sale, merger, reorganization, bankruptcy, dissolution or similar event, your information may be part of the transferred assets.

> Spyware

i dont hate discord, but it could easily be better

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>>62469892
What about Riot? It's like Discord, but it's very decentralized in comparison and has end-to-end encryption, as well as mobile apps.

https://riot.im/

>>62469892
Why is it popular when it's a shit?

>>62470002
is there any evidence that it tracks computer and internet activity outside of the discord app in any way?

>>62470160
No, but as long as it's proprietary you have no proof that it doesn't.

>>62470030
Riot pussy

>>62470169
well if it did, wouldn't it have to be written in privacy policy/terms of service?

>botnet
>uses a lot of RAM
>can't preview own voice
>AGC on by default
>copied another IRC and got popular
>every fag uses this so can't get away from it..

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>>62469892

It fucking works. It has enough features to work well. It's lightweight. It's not run by a single person, anyone can host an IRC server. No, a real physical server, not the Discord misnomer that's akin to making a new channel. Which is just confusing noobs on what a real server is. You can make scripts in your client to become efficient. I can leave important tidbits to people via memoserv. IRC is trustworthy, written by people who wrote programs for good reasons with good methods. It was written before anti-privacy and globalism infected software. The list goes on and on.

IRC is old, but to the shame of current climate of software development, is not obsolete.

>>62470272
AGC?

>>62470355
Automatic gain control, basically shit tier mics (so most people), it will pick up everything bit of noise or buzzing and transmit it as most fags don't use push to talk.

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>>62469892
OH! LOOK! A PROPRIETARY CHAT PLATFORM THAT GAIN MY ATTENTION THROUGH VIRAL ADVERTISING! BETTER SIGN UP AND REFER FRIENDS TO BE COOL!

>>62469892
Not secure enough

>>62470002
I don't normally come to /g/ but what are they gonna go with whatever I use Discord for?
Yeah hope the devs enjoy my superior taste in porn and videogames.

don't hate, just don't like it.
have to use it for some projects though, since slack is too professional or discord is the hot new fad now.

>>62469892
Isn't discord a literal ripoff off another voice chat system?? Can't remember the name.

>B-BUT NEWER HAS TO MEAN BETTER!!!

>>62469892
I'm not a fucking gaymer. Why should I use it?

>>62469892
nah, it's just a meme. you don't have to believe what /g/ says, but it's up to (((you))) to be responsible for whatever software you chose to use

>>62469892
botnet! Use Mumble, Tox, or Ring instead.

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>>62470002
I hope it keeps track of all my anime tiddies I upload

>>62470030
It's basically just a matrix client for normies, which is a good thing because it means I can get my friends to use matrix while I can still use my pro hacker inefficient TUI clients.
Also Matrix is great. Basically the logical upgrade from IRC.

>>62470193
Not until somebody finds out they're doing it (eg. never)

>>62470193
No. Fairly recently uber was busted for using their app to track people who were also using lyft for a similar example

>>62470169
>>62470193
>>62470160
>>62470002
it literally phones home about other processes in your computer. its just justified by displaying it as a game running next to your name

my dumb nigger friends don't wanna switch so I have to run this program in firejail

>>62469892
>Because they dont let me host my own server
>they keep logs of everything submitted and probably said
>Ill use open source whenever I can
>they try to dictate what users can say to eachother in their own private rooms and they try to dictate what files people can send to each other (banning cp is fine, but banning cracks/copy right and shit is crossing the line)
>the dont let me have full control over my fucking server

mumble is the only worthwhile voip program that I know of right now. Teamspeak is close but iirc they have limitations on what you can do without a license.

Our company is moving from Hipchat to Slack and one of the first integrations is setting up the IRC gateway.

Can't wait.

Personally only use Discord for text chat, use Mumble for voice.

If Open Source is so good, why isn't there an alternative that's as good and highly adopted Disc*rd?

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>says its a CIA botnet plane as day in the ToS
>gets shilled in every "general"

welcome to nu/chan/ everybody

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>>62472418
>one is fine
>another is not
>because I say so

>>62470272
>every fag uses this so can't get away from it..

Aye, wish things were different

>>62472768
read the thread you dick shit

>>62472849
wtf even is your point?

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"Get on Discord, anon!"
>Tox is a secure, decentralized multimedia messenger aimed at replacing proprietary and NSA-ridden apps. It offers video and audio chat, group messaging, and file sharing, as well as a robust platform that can allow for endless possibilities. (https://tox.im/)
>Ekiga (formely known as GnomeMeeting) is an open source SoftPhone, Video Conferencing and Instant Messenger application over the Internet. It supports HD sound quality and video up to DVD size and quality. It is interoperable with many other standard compliant softwares, hardwares and service providers as it uses both the major telephony standards (SIP and H.323). (http://www.ekiga.org/)
>Ring (formerly SFLphone) is a free distributed (multimedia communication software published under the GNU General Public License 3. It is developed by Savoir-faire Linux with the help of a global community of users and contributors. Savoir-faire Linux is a Canadian company specialized in Linux and free software. (http://ring.cx/)
>Mumble is an open source, low-latency, high quality voice chat software primarily intended for use while gaming. (http://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Main_Page)
>Hello is built right into Firefox, you can rest easy knowing that your conversations and information will remain private and secure. Thanks to WebRTC-grade encryption, you’ll enjoy an added level of security. (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/hello/)
>Jitsi is an audio/video Internet phone and instant messenger written in Java. It supports some of the most popular instant messaging and telephony protocols such as SIP, Jabber/XMPP (and hence Facebook and Google Talk), AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo! Messenger. (https://jitsi.org/)
>Talky is an open source simple video chat service provided by &yet. (https://talky.io/)
>Riot is built on top of the Matrix open standard.(https://about.riot.im/)
>"We're not downloading those apps lol, just use Discord!"

What does /g/ use to voice chat with techies online..?

>>62472943
IRC ?

>>62472943
>tox.im
Can someone please explain to a brainlet wtf is all the drama documented on their blog about? From what I understand their team split up and started a new project with the same name and logo, but apparently with links to the NSA?

>>62470002
Seems like they track when you use their service, makes sense to me

>>62469892
venture capitalist bullshit

>>62469892
Venture capitalist trash, spyware, and it's for /v/-tards. I can't get my normie friends to stop using it and migrate elsewhere.

>>62473300

Yes please, I need someone to explain it too.

>>62469892
>'download our app!'
>it's actually just an electron app that's running in an old version of chrome
come on man. I've got like 4 different versions of chrome and they all have their own libraries because of electron apps.

>>62469892
It's whatever. I use it, because I'm in communities. It just sits on my second monitor.

>>62473351
This.
Literally collects information to send your message to the recipient.
But /g/ is all ape shit against it cause muh proprietary botnet scam
Ps. Just use it on lan parties and discuss your cp on IRC
Jesus

devs dont care to fix bugs and make it not eat up ram and cpu

>>62474524
/g/ is not wrong though.
Everything is a botnet these days.
I honestly wonder how much of our computer's resources are wasted on that shit.

Why isn't there /g/ or 4chan irc at all?

>>62474660
Why would you connect your computer to a network if you didn't want to be part of the botnet?

>>62474712
>Why isn't there /g/ or 4chan irc at all?
What did he mean by this?
https://www.4chan.org/faq
irc://irc.rizon.net/4chan

I use riot for normal talk and discord for normalfag gametalk

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>>62473539
>>62473574
hmmmm

because I don't have friends.

>>62470801
Curse?

>>62472849
Kill yourself pedo scum.

>>62475225
Pedo website.

>>62469892
Fuck discord it killed fallout equestria.

>>62470160
Well it does know what games you are playing.

>>62471196
It sucks that there are no fully featured Matrix client besides Riot, which is some shitty web hipster shit.

>>62472418
I am far more bothered by baning loli than piracy.

>>62475281
This

>muh botnet
4chan is also a botnet, why are you still using it?

>>62469892
Discord is for video gamers.
I am not a manchild.

>>62476266
botnet is a loaded term

>>62473300
Tox is shilled by Lainshitters, which tells you its garbage right away (Lainshitters also love Discord and CIAfox). Also the fact that there is ALWAYS drama associated with Tor should be a red flag. Basically there was a lot of baby rage about SJW infiltration into the cryptography used, while others thought it was a mistake to use weaker cryptography just to avoid a potentially compromised better one. Apparently all the good devs left too. So you have to ask yourself, do I trust a piece of software when the people who made it don't even trust it?

>>62475273
The weechat matrix plugin is pretty good. Plus it's open source unlike Discord so you can make your own if you are so inclined.

Lots of Riot users here, good to see some lads are starting to hop over.

Check out Banter City, it's a /g/-run server that should be right up your alley.

https://totallysafe.website/#/register

Our general discussion room is available at:
https://matrix.to/#/#general:banter.city

If you're using a client, be sure to set your home server URL to https://banter.city after ticking "Custom Server URL" on the registration/login page.

is Riot.im fully finished or does it still need some polish? Its not made in electron, right?

>>62478504
>Plus it's open source unlike Discord so you can make your own if you are so inclined.
But there are no good clients yet. The one best suited to my preferences is Quaternion, but it's not fully featured, doesn't support uploading images yet for example. IRCv3 seems interesting though, since it's based on good old IRC. http://ircv3.net/
>>62478713
>Its not made in electron, right?
The desktop version likely uses something like that since it's primarily a freaking web client.

>>62478733
>>62478713
yeah the desktop app is made in electron
https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web

>>62478733
>>62478713
>>62478800


Riot is only the user-facing part though. Any client that understands the Matrix protocol can be used. I'm a fan of the WeeChat plug-in. I wish Discord had a competent 3rd party client that isn't ass, but until that happens a bridge to matrix is pretty OK.

>>62469892
Does Discord have an xdcc-like?

why is the riot site so garbage bros was it created by a pajeet from /wdg/?

>>62471094
cute lips

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>>62469892
I don't hate it. I don't use it because it isn't E2E encrypted. Also, I don't need group chat.

>>62479749
>Riot is only the user-facing part though. Any client that understands the Matrix protocol can be used.
We're all well-fucking-aware that it's only a protocol, but the problem here is that there aren't any good fully-featured clients for it.