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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN P, T, X, and W SERIES if you want the Real Business Experience™
Recommended IBM models:
X60, X61, T60, T61, 860, Transnote, PC110
Recommended old models:
X200, W500
Recommended modern models:
X220 - 12", 768x1366, cheap and light
T420 - normal size, 14", 900x1600
T520 - 15", 1080p, Quadcore-CPUs
W520 - desktop replacement, 15", USB 3.0
Last good models:
X230 - 12", USB 3.0, IPS option avaiable, classic keyboard installable
T440p - 14", last ThinkPad to have replacable CPUs, 1080p IPS displays avaiable
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Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
Quiet thread, that's for sure.
Anyway, anyone have a T500? I'm thinking about putting windows 7 on it if I did get a thinkpad (discounted windows activation keys for college, seriously $10), but I'm wondering how does the t500 fair?
https://desmoines.craigslist.org/sys/d/lenovo-t500-laptop/6278968139.html
>>62426804
Second for GOAT ThinkPad T25
My ultraportable 65W ac adapter for my x200 is making a fizzing sound. Search results tell me, this is bad and its gonna die soon.
Can I just use an ordinary 65W ac adapter? Any concerns about buying an offbrand one from the chinks?
The laptop was just 90 $ so I dont really wanna throw 30$ on a lenovo ac adapter.
I saw a used t450 (i5 8gb) for 379€, is it worth the price?
After getting memed by buying a thinkpad I decided to install linux. Am I about to get memed again?
>>62428724
>fedora
m'lady
What would be the best business laptop to use if I want to use it docked as a desktop replacement?
I'm gonna be moving around alot for the next 5-6 years and would like to just buy a cheap monitor and ditch it when I leave; taking the laptop and M&K with me, rather than lug around a desktop.
The only requirements are a good cpu, dedicated GPU for emulating and 2007 era games, the ability to have over 3 drives and preferable at least 1 msata/m.slot and linux support.
Is there a thinkpad that fits this for around 500 americlaps? I've been doing some research and it looks like the elitebook 8770w is a pretty good machine, expensive on ebay though.
>>62428724
fedora is great. Don't forget to use rpm fusion for fonts/codecs and copr for shit you would want to find in the AUR.
>>62428803
fuck by over 3 drives I meant at just 3 full size drives and 1 or more msata
Is this t470 worth buying considering the specs?
>>62428860
Or should I go with the X1 here? Or something else entirely?
>>62427494
>goat
>Not T70
Underage detected
my new x220 ips display seems to have a subtle reddish tint to it. is this normal?
>>62428860
>>62428871
If you want a brand new laptop and you have the money, go for it.
If you just want a good laptop buy an older one.
>>62429382
it now appears less red. I think my eyes had to get used to it.
Big improvement, totally worth it. some backlight bleed though.
just installed fedora xfce on my x220, did i do good?
'Sup /g/, some normie faggot just pressed really hard on my trackpoint thinking that it would input a click. I stopped them from pressing any harder but now I can't stop thinking that my beloved clit mouse is broken. Just how resilient is the clit mouse from hard presses? I need to kick that fag in the ass.
>>62428681
Be sure that the new one doesn't make a buzzing sound.
>>62430890
no, the only reason to install fedora would be wayland
>>62431045
...can't you just test it and see if it's broken?
>>62429173
>Not T61p
Normie detected.
Where do I buy a new battery for my x220 it doesn't hold a charge anymore
Where do I buy one of those extended batteries that Louis was talking about in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFWJP5yCujw&t=658s
(I'm using a t430 BTW)
>>62428803
what do you guise think about buying a x220 from a refurbisher?
>>62434392
90% of x220's are used. No point in finding a brand new one, go ahead.
reposting
I'd quite like to upgrade from my x220 to something more beefier. Preferably with the option to use an eGPU (i'd like to do away with a desktop PC eventually).
Which memebook should I upgrade to?
Cheers senpai
>>62426804
I'll take a better pic when I have better lighting, but my W500 is complete!
- Core2 Duo T9600 Processor
- 250GB SSD + 1TB HDD Ultrabay Caddy
- Japanese Keyboard (A new one, too!)
- Librebooted
Honestly I expected to make a bigger list of modifications, but I didn't really need to do a whole lot to this thing to make it comfy. Awesome device, would recommend!
>>62435159
do you actually use the jap keyboard as intended?
>>62435205
I have an IME set up, but nope! :へ)
>>62435241
is it still functional even with tiny spacebar? I wanna convert my x200T to a jap keyboard
Would I need an external flasher to install coreboot on my x220?
>>62435255
You gotta get used to it, but hell yeah it's usable.
>>62435316
Yes.
>>62435324
Any recommendations? I've heard a raspberry pi works.
>tfw you run your finger around the soft rim trackpoint
>>62435159
Hwhat theme is that??
>>62435386
FUCKING STOP IT. YOU'RE FUCKING BRAINWASHING ME INTO BUYING ONE
>>62435359
BBB Rev C is probably the easiest method because it has an on-board power supply. Once you get SPI interfacing set up on it, it's a no-brainer.
>>62435393
It's based on a lot of classic Windows themes, modified myself to actually look more realistic. Chicago95 and Windows Classic are what it's based on. The entire GTK3 theme I have is basically just Chicago95 with some small modifications, though lol.
>>62431910
You don't seem to know what a T70 is. A T61p is as pedestrian as a Macbook in comparison.
T410 owner here. It's falling apart so I'm looking for a new laptop. Considering a T470 but I'm looking for other options. I want something rugged since I have a habit of tossing my laptop around. Any suggestions, or are thinkpads still king?
>>62435956
ThinkPad is a crippled king in a realm full of deaf and blind retards who are also crippled.
I bought a T430 but it has no charger, will this one do the job?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ARP0RCY/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1505436585&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=thinkpad+t430+charger&dpPl=1&dpID=51G8wGqhg8L&ref=plSrch
>>62435159
What resolution is that?
And post the one with the buttplug next time so people pay attention
got a stripped screw in my x220, how do i remove it? was trying to install an msata ssd
>>62435159
>t9600
>complete
go OC X9100 or go home
>>62435449
I bought one of those ebay sets with all three and I was intending to get it for the classic trackpoint but I found I actually really like the soft rim
>>62436734
superglue screwdriver to it, let it dry, then unscrew
>>62436860
The soft rim one is the best anyway, less pressure needed and feels gud
>>62436044
yeah but you can get a genuine one for cheaper
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BUIP6K/
which distro would you guys recommend someone install on a "fully" loaded t60?
>>62428871
I would go for the X1
Much smaller screen bezel (almost XPS tier) and pretty much the same performance and a lot lighter
can someone identify this thinkpad?
>>62437713
>>62437743
X240
>>62437743
>>62437756
thanks!
Wallpaper dump?
>>62437759
they look so happy, I wanna kill meeself
>>62438255
they were a group of online friends attending i61
that pic is in an airbnb in the UK
>>62438183
my favorite is the ubuntu 8 wallpaper
ordered this on ebay
>Lenovo ThinkPad t420 i5 2x2.50ghz 4gb 128gb SSD HD 1366x768 BT Windows 7 Pro
>180€ (165 if you dont count shipping from Germany)
how did i do? i really like how it looks, and i already loved the T61 my mamma had so i think im gonna love this
i5 is supposedly i5-2520M
>>62438358
nice job
should i be using lenovo power manager?
>>62438441
that's what I did when I was still using windows.
It's not that bad, its not really good.
>Bought a t440p from ebay, i5 4300m with 8gb ram
>Wait 3 weeks
>Arrives
>Open it up
>Fire her up
>Open task manager
>See 8 threads
>wat
>check specs
>i7 4700MQ, 8GB 1600MHz ram
What are the odds they mislisted it or sent the wrong one?
>>62438441
Use Lenovo Settings if you want to set battery threshold limits.
>>62438470
No fucking way, top kek.
I bought the P51 with the quadro 1200 how'd I do
>>62438470
I am getting one from Craigslist for $120
Hopefully the same happens to me
Has anyone had any issues with pairing the MX Master mouse with an X220?
My MX will pair with every other laptop and android device I own. My X220 will pair with every other bluetooth device I own, but my X220 will not discover the MX in any OS I run.
why the fuck am i only getting 2 hours of battery life from my chinkpad
>>62438690
redo drivers?
If I have an E440, which I am aware is not a real thinkpad, is it possible to replace the awful touchpad with something that doesn't completely suck?
It boggles the mind how they could have shipped something so terrible.
My T420 came with Computrace activated but I was able to disable it and there's no Computrace processes in my drive or task manager. How do I make sure it's not active?
>>62438759
dying battery? Chip isn't working? Idk man you need to give us a little more information
Is it okay to list as Used on ebay if only the disc drive doesn't work?
>>62438896
Yeah, it should be fine, but make sure you state so in the description for the item.
>>62438823
If it was enabled but not activated then it was probably toggled on in the BIOS but the previous owner didn't pay for the actual service so you're fine most likely.
>>62438882
>T420
>6cell battery
>i5 2520m
>1366x768 default panel
>>62438945
>>62438759
also, is not fully charging/discharging you battery a meme or is it actually good for it?
How much TDP should i set as maximum when running on battery for an extra bit of battery life without giving up too much performance? 15W?
My very first thinkpad just arrived, is it normal for the lid to shimmer? I though the lid was supposed to be a matte grayish black.
>>62439019
show us a pci
>>62438962
It's good for it but to an extent, you don't need to worry about it so much.
>>62438945
Yeah you just have an old battery. According to lenovo's website your full charge should be at around 60 watt hours. You're at half that, which explains why you have half the normal battery life.
I think there are ways to replace the cells if you're into that sort of thing but just buy a new one if you don't know how to solder
>>62439029
*pic
>>62438548
for how much?
http://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/outletus/deals/current-offers/tablet-deals/ThinkPad-10-Gen-2/p/20E4S0UG00
Is this any good? I just want to draw shit. I hear it has pen support.
>>62439168
for that price, just get a decent X230T
>>62439179
Sounds like a good idea, I guess but all the ones on ebay have descriptions like "huge crack on upper corner" and shit
How long did it take for you to get used to the switched placement of Fn and Ctrl on ThinkPads?
>>62426804
nice B
>>62439340
What's wrong with it, that's how the chiclet keys have always been. And we've had chiclet on thinkpads for almost 6 years now.
>Be macfag for the past 10 or so years
>Find a fully specced, mint condition T440s for super cheap on Swiss ebay
>letsgetmemed.jpg
>Ships with standard lenovo bloatware, install vanilla Windows 10
>Laptop is nice
>Decide to give Linux another try
>Remember that eye cancer inducing screen tearing
>Remember that cancerous X11
>wellmaybenot.jpg
>Read about fedora and wayland
>Ah well, let's give it a try. Might as well get memed again.
I have to admin that it's actually pretty fucking nice. Aside from the usual initial hassles with linux on a laptop/desktop (repositories becuase of MUH FREEDURMS, touchpad set up, NO.FUCKING.MS.OFFICE) it's actually pretty fucking nice. I'm making this my main machine now.
T-thanks /g/
>>62427494
Its literally just a shitpad with the good keyboard
All they had to do to make this a win was take a T420, put a new processor in it, then trim the bezel and shove a 16:10 screen in there
>>62439019
>>62439029
>>62439105
Here's a pic of the shimmer on my X230s lid. Is this normal?
>>62439511
Here's a pic of the underside where the shimmer effect seems more pronounced.
>>62439521
>>62439511
Looks pretty normal to me
Here's mine
>>62439048
kek
>>62439416
Why would you start with a T420 and hack it instead of just using the T410 which was already the right size?
>>62436688
1680x1050. Didn't want to upgrade display because of scaling issues. Also the 1920x1200's are really expensive and harder to find. :/
>>62436739
Not compatible with Libreboot. If it ever is I certainly will!
is the x220's keyboard much better than the x230?
>>62441369
You can replace the x230 keyboard with the x220 one.
To those who disable their trackpad, why?
>>62441612
so your thumb doesn't move the mouse when you click the trackpoint buttons
>>62435539
Where do you find the start logo ?
Icon theme ?
You ilbreboot with pi ?
>>62439416
>thin bezels
they look so good on thinkpad hnnnnnnnngggggg
>>62440383
I forgot about the T410
>>62441251
How do you know it isn't compatible, awoo-kun? You tested it?
>go to Goodwill and find a nice old IBM Thinkpad bag for 1.99
>Get home and discover there's a T40 dock inside
Damn I wish I still had mine.
>mechanical drives
>in laptops
>2017
Pathetic.
i never go on /g/
Should i get this or ideapad or something else for college? its just gonna be an essay machine
cheapish (100 euros) (als je nl bent marktplaats die shit) goodlooking w500 popped up for sale but just spend all my neet money on a x200 and some other stuff
Cmon aliexpress hurry with the touchpad stickers so I can flip the t410
>>62442496
>intel SSDs
>2017
Howling.
>>62442541
t420 or x220 with a basic linux like manjaro (people bash on it but is a good supported distro) or t430 x230 if you need want (not much) more power and a hot lap
A t520 for €290 500gb 4gb or a w520 €600 256gb ssd?
>>62442587
thank you babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
>>62442612
where are you from those are both ridiculous prices, if it had to be one of the two the w520 is a better one
Fastest shipping ever, considering that I am in the UE
Really nice but they are so fucking small
>>62442643
Ireland yeah seems like pads here are expensive
>>62441984
They should also make a conversion kit for T410 frames.
>>62442643
Is this a good price?
https://touch.adverts.ie/laptops/lenovo-thinkpad-t420/13482693
>>62437713
>>62437743
Absolutely garbage
>>62437767
The X240 is garbage desu
The X230 is much better
>>62438470
Mmm know that feel senpai
>buy tc4400, T7200 and 2 gb ram
>has garbage Xp install
>wipe, install loonix
>htop
>4 GB of ram instead of 2
>>62442665
Ruizu good player ?
is this good?
https://www.staples.ca/en/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430-14-Laptop-2-60-GHz-Intel-Core-i5-3320M-4-GB-RAM-320-GB-HDD-Refurbished-English/product_2262692_2-CA_1_20001
>>62442728
that price is towards okay but still a bit much but way better than that t520 deal
>>62442496
>not having one that's set to idle 99% of the time
>>62442848
>single channel ram
>fucked touchpad
>No difference in igpu
>drop hinges
>No expresscard
Etc etc
I could go on
The only plus is the 1080 display option without the chink fuckery
>>62442887
Should I take it or the w520 or wait for a better deal?
>>62442849
it's worth what it costs
>>62441853
Start Logo I stole from a screenshot of Windows 98, and cut it out. Icon theme is Classic95 I believe? Some also taken from Chicago95. I Libreboot with a BBB Rev C, since it has an on-board power supply.
Hey guys, I've recently been gifted a T30 with 256 MB of ram (up to 1 Gb at best) and 20 Gb of hard drive. I was considering just leaving it there but I thought I might give it a shot.
What do you guys use your ancient thinkpads for? Could I technically install an ultra-light distro and use it as a seedbox? It's a shame to see such a fine antique just gathering dust.
>>62442920
>fucked touchpad
in what way is it fucked?
i dont know the meaning of the other words you said
>>62443041
i have a T61 with LXDE, it does decently web browsing and can even see youtube vids at 480p decently as long as you're not doing anything else
T30 is way too old tho, you could use it as a terminal for something or maybe a small homemade server for playing around with linux
>>62443253
I guess I could play ascii games on it or something. Thanks!
>just bought T430
>i7, 8gb RAM, 1600x900 screen, new 9 cell batt, 128gb SSD, nvidia gpu
>£230
did i do okay?
>>62443362
Do you enjoy being spoonfed?
Any good expresscard adaptors that are worthwhile for the X220? What is available?
Need more BIOS loading screens.
Fast shipping considering EU. As the other poster said they're a bit small, but Thats fine. Only complaint is the small print in the bottom left is a bit low dpi
>>62443419
that can't be up to date - the prices seem very high. I see loads of standard T430 models on ebay buy it now starting at 200usd
>>62443253
Has no buttons
While this may not seem like an issue at first it gets really annoying when you're trying to hit the middle button and rest your finger on the right button and it clicks both
It gets in the way a lot
You can fix it which is what I'd recommend for a T440p or whatever but for the X240? I'd just recommend not buying it in the first place
Plus there's some driver fuckery going on too
>>62443489
The size is not the problem.
t450 with i5-5200u, shitty 768p screen and 4gb ram for $300
convince me this is bad idea
>>62441369
no it's just the layout is different and if you're accustomed to the old layout then you'd prefer that
>>62444037
shitty iso entee key
>tfw they use Thinkpads even on the ISS
>>62443489
Hoping mine turn up tomorrow. The size doesnt look a problem to me. Tech stickers are always small anyway.
Who ever gets the pic related envelope should post it, I'd love to see the rant. I have a feeling it might be me.
HDD keeps clicking
what do
will i be able to swap the palm rest/trackpad part of my t420 with the one in my t61? i fucking hate this t420's pad/buttons
if i buy a cheap thinkpad and then upgrade with with an ssd and maybe more ram i might as well buy a more expensive model in the first place
where am i saving money?
>>62444558
ssd is a key for speed ram can be nice but 4 is alright to live with
if you get a more expensive model with hdd youll be sad i talk out of experience
wich models do you have in mind
>>62444558
Buying old is more fun.
>>62444459
Buy a new one.
>>62444558
also models like t420 or t430 are as fast as new ones just lack a few things they are modable and supported to a big part
>>62444617
>>62444643
theres a t430 on ebay for £150
hdd and 4gb ram
a new ssd is like £50+
and i remember upgrading ram from 4gb on my desktop was an incredible improvement so i can assume it would be the same here
but then thats like another £30 or whatever
t400 only supports sata1. is it even worth buying an ssd when max thoroughput will be 1.5gb?
>>62444700
50 pounds for a new ssd sounds super cheap to me i paid like 140 pounds for mine
>>62444739
mm i was just looking at the cheapest listings on novatech, i always assumed they were more expensive but i guess its more dependant on size?
120gb is plenty enough really
>>62444734
is it not common to put an ssd in a t400 series?
>>62444797
do people fall for memes because everyone else does it? I'm buying a regular toshiba HDD for 20 bucks. Brand new, can't beat that.
>>62441612
the keyboard doesn't work unless the touchpad is disabled for some reason.
>>62444835
great
but can you help me buy a thinkpad
>>62444890
I sniped my t400 for 20 bucks so maybe.Which one you looking at?
>>62438470
pic related
Just bought T60 for 64$
>>62438358
Huh. I gave one of those away to a friend. He seems okay with it.
>>62444916
oh im sorry i thought >>62444734 was responding to >>62444700, saying it would be pointless to put an ssd in a t430 (you said t400 but i assumed that it could be generalised like t4xx)
uhh so it would be fine to put an ssd in a t430?
>>62444734
SSD's are so cheap now its totally worth it even if its bottlenecked by sata speed. You will still get better access times and you won't have a spinning drive on something you are going to move around.
>>62444734
yes because there are a ton of other benefits to having an SSD
most of your speed comes from random access time anyways which is hardly restricted by SATA speeds
>>62445098
>>62445128
k..yall make a good point.
i'm pretty sure my LED for HDD is clicking loudly everytime theHDD is used
>>62445340
no........ it's the HDD.......
>>62445423
I put my ear to it lol
>>62444156
Where to get round sticker ?
>>62446160
You don't.
http://www.patchdynamics.net/All_Items/cat4320690_3828565.aspx
Going to do a keyboard swap mod on the t430, I realize while looking at the connector that it's zif connector instead of a ribbon. How did you isolate the required pins? Or did you simply dropped it in and didn't care?
>>62443459
the stupid OP didn't include the bios logo booru
what a baka
>>62441933
>51nb
>x320
Has anyone been able to actually get one of these? All the links to buy broken/outofstock/notthex320 etc.
>>62446888
biosimage.booru.org
This thread got started before the previous one, which is why it isn't in the OP. Whoever starts the next one, pls put it in.
>>62446708
you used to have to isolate a couple pins (with tape) but now you don't have to with the BIOS mod, I think, and you need the BIOS mod in order to get all of the keys working
>>62435159
You must get this a lot but what distro are you running?
>>62435159
Where you get that Libreboot sticker anon?
Should I pull the trigger on this, /b/oys?
The guy replaced the internal HDD with a 80Gb one but he still has the original one, it works without any problem and it runs Win2000. The only downside is the battery, which is dead
>>62447009
>>62424557
That OP. Ignoring the autistic anime girl ofc.
x201 i5 4gb 250gb password locked in bios for 25$ worth picking up?
>>62447285
yeah
>>62447285
google how to remove supervisor password, I'm pretty sure it can be done easily on the X201 so yes I think it would be worth it
or you can just ask the owner if they know the password...
>>62447013
BIOS on this thing is like 1.37, should I upgrade it before flashing the ec mod? Or should I just leave it alone and just flash the mod?
>>62447359
could be stolen because the seller apparently doesn't know the password
>>62438470
>get 2 x220 tablets from ebay for $43 each, free shipping
>advertised as being barebones
>arrive packed like shit, filthy and dirty as hell
>clean them up
>they each have a working slice battery, 4gb ram, and an IPS screen in perfect condition
>feels fucking good man
>>62435539
What do you mean by on-board power supply ?
If password of bios is locked we can install libreboot for unlock the Thinkpad ?
>>62447697
sell me one for cheap if you do international shipping please
there is nothing good in this shithole
>>62447125
Looks quite clean. Go for it, if you're into that sort of thing.
>>62427494
>vomit-chan.jpg
How is this different from every other Lenovo Thinkpad again?
I waited 2 solid years for this... what a fucking disappointment.
>>62447732
I use both of them, but I'm willing to get one on ebay for you and send it with a fudged custom form. Email me. [email protected]
It's a rite of passage that everyone on /g/ should have a cheap Thinkpad.
what SSD should I buy for my T60? 64GB is fine. Looking for under 50$. Will it really make a big difference over a 7200rpm drive, speed and battery wise?
>>62447838
yeah, speed, power consumption, noise, vibrations, reliability
you can get Samsung 840/850 EVO's for pretty cheap off of Ebay
>>62435159
are you using chicago 95, did you have problems with the start menu icon mine just stays in a tiny little boxy and you can barely see it
>>62447838
>Will it really make a big difference over a 7200rpm drive
Yes.
Just get the cheapest one on Amazon or Newegg. Here: https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-Endurance-Free-download-SP060GBSS3S60S25AE/dp/B01M2UUACN/ref=sr_1_3
>>62447777
Thank quad-chan, I'll text the seller tomorrow, asking if he can lower the price a bit, he wants 60€+10€ for shipping, but I'll try to get it for 50€ shipped
Re posting here.
I just installed Fedora 26, but I can't make the Trackpoint works correctly, it works, but it's too slow, and scrolling it's too slow too, I tried with xinput but none of these seems to be the Trackpoint.
Tried on Preferences > Mouse > Acceleration, but stills too slow and no scroll configuration.l[a@Thinkpad ~]$ xinput
⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)]
⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ xwayland-pointer:13 id=6 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ xwayland-relative-pointer:13 id=7 [slave pointer (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard id=3 [master keyboard (2)]
↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ xwayland-keyboard:13 id=8 [slave keyboard (3)]
[a@Thinkpad ~]$
The T60 doesn't need hardware to flash bios ? And if he have password bios ?
And for T400 i need RraspberryPi ?
>>62448283
for t400 you need a BBB or raspberry pi
idk about the locked bios though
>>62447777
>dat cat
>dem quads
<3
why haven't you joined the master race yet tpg?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew1zR9hm1Q8
>>62448573
because MacOS is for plebs
real men use BSD
normal men use Linux
gay men use MacOS
>>62448655
>normal men use Linux
l fucking mao
Gonna go ahead and ask for a recommendation, since you guys have completely sold me (this design is fucking beautiful).
I've got about £400 to spend (though I could push to more if it's really worth it). I'm more than willing to take a HDD over an SSD to maximise memory value (longer boot/loading doesn't bother me really), infact i'd prefer it.
I'm doing CompSci at Uni (work is the main reason i'm getting it), and I will want to play at least some kind of vidya on it (though i'm not expecting to be able to play anything recent and demanding, obviously).
>>62448911
T440p with a GT730m, if you get lucky on ebay.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440p-8-GB-256-SSD-Windows-10-NVIDIA-GT730-Graphic-Card-/172864184434?hash=item283f822072:g:63gAAOSwaeRZK-6q
Example. I'll find the writeup I did for the T440p and dump that.
>>62448939
>>62448911
Completely Official /tpg/ T440p buyer's guide
CPU - i3 dual, i5 dual, i7 dual, i7 quad. Middle is pointless, latter is marked with MQ. I've never seen an i3. Easy to swap. Most commmon ones - i5 4200m, i5 4300m, i7 4700mq. Best upgrade is either a 4712mq for equivalent wattage to the dual cores or 4710/4810/4910 for higher clocks, depending on which one you can find for cheap. Only big difference between those is clocks, 4700/4800/4900 work fine as well. 8xx/9xx have 1.3ghz iGPU vs 1.15. Note - haven't actually seen proof of a 4712 working, it's not on the official compatibility list but it should work.
RAM - PC3-12800 1600MHZ DDR3L 1.35v standard, up to 2133mhz aftermarket. Two slots, both swappable. 16GB max, pretty sure that's a Haswell limit.
Storage - one internal SATA 2.5 bay, one internal M.2 2242 SSD slot, optional one 2.5 drive in the DVD """"UltraBay"""" drive bay. It might not be clear where the drives in the one you're buying are, ask if you want to know. MSATA drives can be used if you cut the adaptor in half, apparently.
Screen - 766p/900p TN, 1080p IPS. 1080 swap is cheap, not a big deal. B140HAN01.1, .2 or .3 are recommended. IIRC it's matte/glossy/semi-matte in that order.
Battery - 6cell or 9cell, latter has a rear bulge. Worth it.
Trackpad - if you want the classic style, swap it for the T450 one. Just remove the backplate, the palmrest, the keyboard and replace the touchpad which is a component of the palmrest. Reassemble and done.
Keyboard - modern Lenovo chiclet, can't be swapped unlike xx30 series. By chiclet standards it's pretty damn good though.
GPU - GT730M. For productivity, pretty much pointless, I'd avoid it. For gayman, about 2x as powerful as the iGPU. Good luck finding one though, they're rare. Can't be swapped without swapping the motherboard. Disabled to save power when not in use through Optimus, not a big deal.
>>62448911
you must be a huge ignoramus to prefer an HDD over an SSD, especially in a laptop
obviously you have never used an SSD, please use one before picking a side
>>62448939
I'll keep my eye on one, ty
>>62448966
Ha I admit i've never used one, it's true. But again i've never been bothered by load times and if it can save me some money then so be it.
>>62448573
I wonder if this would have better GPU performance than Ubuntu on my x220 tablet
>>62449046
It's not just loading times lad, every single thing you do on the computer is faster. It's a bigger difference than upgrading to a five year newer computer, IMO.
>>62449046
if you don't care about load times (which you will start caring about once you use an SSD and notice how bad the loading times are), then maybe power consumption, or the noise, or vibrations, or reliability, could possibly be appealing to you
>>62439391
Look closely at the trackpoint.
I am thinking of buying a x220 or 230, which is more valuable, how well can It play TF2. Should I consider any other options?
>>62447830
sent
>>62447838
Any SSD would be better than a HDD, even cheap shit from Aliexpress will suffice.
>>62449109
>>62449072
Alright, points taken in to account.
these temps look alright to you?
>>62449630
T420 btw
>>62449653
I had around 44~50 with the i7 2720QM while idling so yeah i guess
>>62449630
Idle should be around 50 and on load would be around 70. You seem good.
Do you think I'd be able to get an eGPU working with the T440p?
>>62449721
no expresscard slot
>>62449721
https://forum.banggood.com/forum-topic-339904.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/4hzwxr/external_gpu_on_a_t440p/d3n2nx2/
Quick googling is pointing at "no".
>>62449793
Yeah bummer, I don't know whether I should go with a T430 with an eGPU, or just a T440P.
>>62439340
PffHAA. No joke, this shit looks like a cheap Chinese knockoff from /csg/. What a disappointment.
>>62449395
I just replied to you.
>>62449817
I went with the 440p because i don't give a shit about eGPUs but for your case i think the 420 or 430 would be better.
AAAAAAAAAHHH WHY ARE THINKPADS SO NICE I'M HITTING COMFY LEVELS THAT SHOUDNLT EVEN BE POSSIBLE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
my friends say that i sound like im trying to sell them one when i speak about thinkpads
am i a fanboy?
>>62449901
no? they are objectively superior, similar to being white
>>62449885
they just are
>>62449901
yes
>>62449885
And this is a bad thing how?
I want to install linux on x230 but I heard that active protection system is not supported in x230 for linux.
Should I switch to linux or wait for SSD? I don't have money for SSD atm and it is very expensive in my country.I don't want to have 60gb or 120gb SSD, I need atleast 250gb and their price is same price of thinkpad.
>>62449630
You are good,
>>62449929
>external light source
>not using the ThinkLight™
I bought a refurbished X230 a while back and I want to sell it now, I've upgraded from 4 to 8GB RAM and put a 500GB SSD in it. I want to keep the SSD so I can reuse it but should I sell it with 4 or 8GB RAM?
I don't really care about getting the most amount of value out of it as long as I get like $100-150 out of it but I assume that I'll have an easier time selling it if I sell it with 8GB RAM instead of 4?
Or should I just sell it like it came? I don't really have any use for laptop RAM since I'm going to replace it with a desktop.
>>62450036
Take out 500GB SSD and 8gb ram.Put inside HDD drive and 4gb ram
I regret selling my x240 with 8gb ram and SSD.
I should replace it with 4gb ram and HDD.
>>62450036
just keep it, if $150 is a lot to you then do not build a desktop...
>>62450145
For $150 I can buy a used Dell Optiplex that will perform a lot better than the Thinkpad since I only use my X230 docked at my desk right now and never use it as a laptop.
Got my T420 yesterday, great little machine. Surprisingly good condition, the 900p screen looks like butt though but beggars can't be choosers considering I got it for a fairly low price and the battery held a 4 hour charge last night which seems pretty good for a used battery. I stuck an SSD in it but it had a HDD but my optical adapter is still in shipping limbo.
This is my first Thinkpad so using the trackpoint is extremely awkward for me, it doesn't feel precise at all. Any tips on making it a little easier?
Also I'm using Windows at the moment since it came with a free Pro key but what's a good distro for a beginner to learn Linux?
>>62450204
Try lowering the sensitivity of the trackpoint and disabling the trackpad. It'll force you to use the trackpoint and you'll get used to it eventually.
>>62450204
turn trackpoint sensitivity to full blast
also turn 'enhance pointer precision off', not sure if it affects trackpoint/trackpad though
>>62450179
get a job and quit playing video games
>>62450306
That's exactly why I'm selling it, I'm in college and I'm playing too much video games right now which is starting to affect school, I have an iPad Pro for schoolwork that I got so I don't get distracted by other shit when I need to focus on school.
just got my t60 in the mail guys!
its currently running windows 7 but whats a good linux distro to run on it that wont make it piss itself?
i was thinking either xubuntu, manjaro+xfce, or debian+xfce
>>62450204
Took me a couple weeks before the trackpoint clicked with me tbqh. It's kind of unnatural to use at first.
Noticed a bit of wobble on the battery of my L460 today and found this. Genuinely surprised me considering how careful i am with my laptop. Gonna try some superglue and pray that it sticks.
>>62442033
Actually, I'm uncertain. I'll ask around because if so I'd be interested in buying one.
>>62447075
Debian!
>>62447106
From minifree.org.
>>62447722
3.3V is required to power the chip while reading/writing it. The BBB Rev C has this output built right in!
>>62447914
Only using Chicago95 for my GTK3 theme, which I've modified for more realism.
w520 or x240?? Want a fhd display, are the colours/ brightness actually good on the w520
>In class today
>Sit next to girl in class
>She forgot her textbook
>Asks me if she can use mine
>Only have it in digital form
>Hand her my Thinkpad
>She stares at it
>Says she doesn't know how to use this
>I ask what she means
>She says "How come there's 4 buttons around the trackpad"
>Explain to her about the trackpoint
>She asks "Whats a trackpoint"
>mfw
>>62450659
>Explain to her about the trackpoint
>She asks "O-oh kinda like how you'll rub me tonight anon?"
>mfw
>>62450659
This is why Lenovo removed the bottom 2 buttons.
>>62450697
>rubbing 3dpd
ew
>>62450659
Lets be honest, having 4 buttons was a clusterfuck of a design.
Adding to this >>62450529
Anyone able to recommend a type of glue that might be suitable for this?
>>62450810
the same glue your mom huffed when she had you
>>62450824
I would ask her what kind, but she's dead.
How did you guys first learn about Thinkpads?
>>62450789
Technically 5 buttons but I wouldn't miss the bottom 2 buttons if they were suddenly gone.
>>62441612
Trackpoint is superior, plus I use the keyboard for a lot of my navigation anyways so anytime I do need to use the cursor the trackpoint is a god send because it allows me to keep my hands on the keyboard at all times.
>tfw you take your thinkpad in public and someone unironically asks if I'm hacking the library because of my tiling wm and my fingers and flying across my keyboard
>>62443489
EU fag here, didn't get mine yet :(
>>62450697
>>62450845
/tpg/ of course
>>62450845
Here.
I knew they existed beforehand but nothing more.
What phones do you use? What would be the thinkpad equivalent?
I don't think most android hardware is durable or modular enough to be considered, but I got screwed by LG boot loops so what do I know?
>>62450845
My dad was a janitor at an office building and they decided to mass upgrade all their laptops. They were just outright throwing away dozens and dozens of Thinkpads.
My dad thought it was a waste and he brought with him like, 30 of them. No joke.
Eventually sold them all on Ebay but he gave me a couple to tinker with. They were mostly like T400's.
>>62450944
>>62450845
My high school used Thinkpads exclusively and my computer teacher was a big Thinkpad fan. I only bought one eventually because of the internet though.
>>62450697
heh...
>>62450845
HS I went to had a computer lab filled with them, I really liked them at the time but only ended up buying one after HS. /tpg/ also influenced me a bit to get one.
Reeeee
>>62450845
I learned about them in school but I didn't know they were a big thing until much later.
>>62451092
you deserve it
Where can I get a pre-built x62. I love my x61 so much but want that modern hardwarez.
If IBM started making their own Thinkpads again but without the Thinkpad brand name, would you buy them?
>>62437743
Mamiya 7
>>62451202
It's not a matter of who's making them. I' d buy a business laptop by Heinz Ketchup if it was good.
>>62450845
Got one for free from Humana my senior year of high school. Installed Ubuntu (the Win7 install was illegal) and used it as my uni laptop.
>>62451149
You buy a kit from 51nb and make it your damn self. Also, good luck navigating it. Your face when you go on their main page is pic related
>>62450449
Strange. I found it instantly comfortable and natural. I noticed this isn't the case with everyone when I let others use my laptop and can't seem to into it even after I explain it to them.
>>62427460
It's okay, but it's a core 2 based system.
I'd advise a T510 or T520 if you're set on early T5xx
MY T440P CAME IN
Weird thing is that I got it before I got my sticker (hasn't arrived yet)
The top of it is sticky and gross and the thinkpad sticker is falling off. How do I clean her up?
>>62441933
>x320
wait what
>>62450810
This happened to me. I only had super glue so I made do. I squished it in so it was fully saturated between the join points. I also made sure there was enough glue around the outside that it would form a solid shell after it took forever to harden. It's been fine so far, this was over 6 months ago. Kinda forgot about it.
>>62451621
Oops. Forgot this
>>62426804
I have a Thinkpad 600 w/ Pentium II @ 300MHz and a hair short of 300Mb ram.
What do. I have Win98 installed from when I was a teen and a couple of DOS games.
>>62451522
Soapy water.
Iso propyl alcohol diluted and a soft cloth
A baby wipe
All purpose cleaner
I've used all of those before at some point to varying success depending on what I had available.
Alcohol is probably best for sticker shit tho.
>>62451522
Also how do I install a fresh version of Windows 8 and clean whatever is on it?
Macbook pro retina 2015 (and 256 SSD) for $400
Can I find better with thinkpads? Considering the most basic X230 is at $220 (without ssd) where I live. And the integrated graphic is worse (I just want to play cs:go, and HD4000/4400 is borderline) They also have way worse screen (768) and a processor a bit older
T440p are at $320 without SSD, same inconvenience than the X230.
On top of that the battery life really won't be the same.
I love my X200 (screen broke that's why I'm looking for something new) so I'd like another thinkpad but this offer might be really good.
>>62451522
Only one way, anon.
>>62451706
that's a really good deal on the macbook, are you sure it's not stolen or broken...?
and there's also the downside of MacOS
>>62451706
That's incredibly bloody cheap. For that money, completely worth it.
Is the seller called Tyrone? I'm suspicious of that price.
>>62451746
Should not be problematic to put debian on it, no?
Doesn't look stolen, some info and all the stuff is included even the box..
>>62451774
Shit I'm contacting the seller, it's on the craiglist equivalent..
T420 6gb ram i3 2,5ghz for 125$, worth?
>>62451803
Nah.
Spend 30-50 dollars more and get one with an i5 and 8gb of RAM
>>62451803
Yeah sure, add $20 or $30 for an aftermarket quad core i7 2720QM and you have something better than whatever t420 you can find.
>>62451774
>>62451797
I'll come back in 10-15hours to tell you he put the price wrong or he's Tyrone or someone took it before me.
>finally get t430
>comes without a charger
>charger arrives next Thursday
Life is suffering. Is there a decent charger I can get from best buy or something?
>>62452055
probably, or even Goodwill, as long as it has the correct port and it's 20v 4.5a
>>62450441
dort
Can you buy thinkpad stickers online? The front one on mine is falling off.
>>62435577
t61p is the fucking og iss laptop brethren. T70 is obviously superior but in terms of street cred the t61p is the shit.
Guys, my T420 "squeaks" when doing stuff like changing focus from window to window, typing the first letter in a text box of a messaging app or when scrolling a website using the arrow keys.
It's not coming from the speakers and sounds like squeaky static. It's more noticeable when on battery power. Should I be worried?
>>62452409
what OS?
>>62452409
>my T420 "squeaks" when doing stuff
that's lewd
What's the best 900p screen you can get for a T420?
>>62452423
Debian 9, with Xfce. It's gotten even weirder, since the "squeak during focus switch" seems to happen with windows belonging to certain programs (happens with Telegram appimage, doesn't happen with Thunar).
>>62452431
To think I almost wrote "squeals"...
>got T420
>it has 6GB of ram
>it has a 4GB stick and a 2GB stick
>2GB stick is under the keyboard
Fuck, I wanted to avoid opening it.
>>62450845
Used one in a computer lap in highschool. Loved them ever since
>>62450944
Blackberry phones are the Business no nonsense phones on the market imo.
With that being said they have almost no similarities apart from target audience.
>>62452567
chink phones have the best value
How is intel ucode with libreboot ?
>>62452552
>remove the RAM-mSATA/WWAN backplate (one screw)
>remove the keyboard screw next to the msata slot (one screw)
>push keyboard towards the screen
done by unscrewing two screws only, stop being lazy anon
>>62436734
Try putting a rubber band between the screw and the screwdriver
>>62450845
Luke Smith and /tpg/
I got an x220 and it's so damn /comfy/
>>62451092
update: the temp. sensor wire mysteriously broke/melted or something
soldered it back together and everything works fine again
>>62450845
I've known about them for years. My first ThinkPad (and actually, my first laptop) was a 600E back in 2005. I got a T23 a couple years later. I sold both of them and got a 16-inch "multimedia" Asus laptop.
Then four years ago I decided to sell it and get an X200t, and I haven't looked back. Thanks to /g/ I've also added a T430 to my collection and bought a T420 and Dell D620 for my parents.
>>62452152
Dortmund ?