Suddenly, censorship makes a lot more sense

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>>62416113
Or you could have people judge ideas for themselves, keep the market of ideas free and open, and not treat people as cattle and everyone who matters will act accordingly.

>>62416163
>Or you could have people judge ideas for themselves
Kek! Good one, Anon

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>>62416163
>people
>judge ideas for themselves
lmao, "people" are dumb when in large groups. how don't you know this by now?

>>62416163
People are actually cattle

George Bush doesn't care about black people

>>62416113
what does this even mean? no body should be allowed to be popular?

>>62416163
The first few paragraphs of the article detail a literal Russian-propagated hoax that sparked protests in a German town. The movement actually GREW after the hoaxer admitted to making the whole thing up, because RT (and its associated online shillbots) went full conspiratard and feels > reals.

>>62416345
It means Russia and China are justified in shutting down foreign websites. They know the danger of foreign propaganda and information warfare because they themselves as masters of it.

>>62416113
He knews the marxist tricks, people think he is crazy or something, if just people knew what is happening now with social media

>>62416387
This exactly

>>62416113
>he thinks censorship is the solution to this problem
kek

>>62416113
What if the governments start doing the same?

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>>62416345
>no body should be allowed to be popular?
yes

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>>62416113
Why would you let the enemy use the same weapons on you that you use on them and especially after you've seen what they can achieve?

>>62416560
>What if
>implying they're not already doing it

>>62416163
>implying "people"are even human

>>62416884
I wanted to expand on that, but my tinfoil hat needs refinement first

>>62416163
look at the fucking niggers spamming /g/. we're living in nigger disneyland.

>>62416387
We dont know its you, NSA

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>>62417363
*tips fedora*

>>62416269 >>62416998
White Goyim are Cattle.
10000 White goyim lives are worth less than a Single Jewish Life.
Source: Talmud.

>>62417456
tip it all day you clueless puppet fuck.

>>62416113
Pick das fürers with greater care. Kardashian and Snooki followers are impotent anyway.

Sage for the least /g/ thread all day.

>>62416113
Censorship never makes sense. The fact that you're advocating for censorship because some celebrity is more popular than the most unpopular president of all time is borderline retarded.
It boggles the mind how someone managed to get to the level of sycophanty you're at.
This has fuckall to do with the board's subject.

>>62416269
And they need to be looked after, because the cattle take care of the shephard as much as the shephard takes care of them.

Modern day elites don't realize nor recognize this and are destroying all vestiges of their own power and influence by tightening their grips on their own populations while simultaneously weakening those populations.

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>>62416194
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>>62416998
>>62417363
I'd like to argue against you, but at the same time I have to admit that you are right. Just look at pic related. I found this picture on Instagram, where almost everyone responded "the couples" (because only "single" people die). Meanwhile, the only thing i could think of was "Bane, because he crashed the plane with no survivors", i didn't even realize there was a trick, because 4chan has conditioned me to think of Bane every time i hear something about plane crashes.
Now if 4chan told me to murder someone, i wouldn't do it.
If 4chan told me to watch CP or commit some other crime, i wouldn't do it.
If 4chan told me - through forced memes - to watch a certain movie, yes i will probably do it.

>>62417591
I know I'm right. I live in a pig pen and these useless fuckers only eat and shit. I don't know where real life is happening, but it's not here.

>>62416163
>Or you could have people judge ideas for themselves
Hello interdimensional traveler tell me more about your people and customs

>>62417565
>Most unpopular president
I think you should go back go reddit and possibly do some research into the past 44 presidents ratings.

tbqh if the /g/ hivemind told me to do something there's a decent chance I'd do it

>>62416163
Most people are incredibly fucking stupid, accept it

>>62417822
Install gentoo.

>>62416113
It's almost like Yuri Bezmenov was always right.

>>62417822
install linux

>>62417822
install linux

im pretty it's already too late to stop this.

Hurricane Harvey has made this 100% clear to me.
literally every facebook post with "how to help" had 100s of comments saying how horrible The Red Cross is and you shouldn't donate to them.
post after post after post of people saying how The Red Cross is corrupt.
zero posts about where you should give your money to...just posts about not supporting The Red Cross
i didn't even see one single post defending The Red Cross.

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>>62416345
Nobody should be more popular than the people in charge

what i found scary and awesome all at the same time was Apple standing up the US government when it came to the San Bernardino terrorist attack.
Apple could've easily unlocked the phone. (it wasn't impossible to do...or even hard but they didn't want to do it)
they said no.
FBI backed down.

>>62419077
Well the FBI can't force Apple to break their own encryption. That being said, they should have just disabled the autowipe feature and let the FBI bruteforce it.

>>62419109
the government can do a lot of things in the name of security.
plus it wasn't breaking encryption.
it was removing encryption altogether.
they wanted a modified apple IOS without encryption enabled.

>>62419109
>That being said, they should have just disabled the autowipe feature and let the FBI bruteforce it.
That would be tantamount to breaking encryption. Lots of security-conscious people use 4 digit PINs solely because the device is guaranteed to self-erase after finite attempts. If we didn't have this guarantee, everyone would be forced to use 46-character alphanumeric passwords on their phones, which is obviously impractical.

>>62419155
Right and they were in the right for refusing to backdoor that. The only reason why the FBI couldn't just bruteforce it (it's a 4 digit passcode; that takes no time to crack) was because the phone is set to nuke itself if you fail the passcode too much in too short of a time.

>>62419173
Just for that one device anon. The feds had the right to look into since it is part of a criminal investigation.

Censorship is never okay

>>62419183
Right and they were in the right for refusing to backdoor that.
morally. sure.
legally?
who knows.
The government cites as precedent United States v. New York Telephone Co., where the Supreme Court ruled in 1977 that the All Writs Act gave courts the power to demand reasonable technical assistance from the phone company in accessing phone calling records.
>reasonable technical assistance
like installing an update that disables an option (like encryption)

>>62419077
FBI didn't back down at all lmao did you keep up with the news after Apple stopped pushing it into the spotlight?

>>62419237
FBI withdrawal of request[edit]
On March 21, the government requested and was granted a delay, saying a third party had demonstrated a possible way to unlock the iPhone in question and the FBI needed more time to determine if it will work.[49][50][51] On March 28, the FBI said it had unlocked the iPhone with the third party's help, and an anonymous official said that the hack's applications were limited; the Department of Justice withdrew the case.[52][53] The lawyer for the FBI has stated that they are using the extracted information to further investigate the case

>>62419229
The keyword is reasonable. It's not reasonable to require a backdoor on every person's device for a specific investigation.

>>62419237
They got a third party to do it.

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>>62419261
>Apple said Friday that it won't go to court to demand the US Federal Bureau of Investigation to inform the gadget maker how the feds broke into the phone of Syed Farook

Goddamn, there's a huge vulnerability and Apple won't patch it. Fuuuuuuuck

>>62419270
>The keyword is reasonable. It's not reasonable to require a backdoor on every person's device for a specific investigation.

>It's not reasonable to require a backdoor on every person's device
that wasn't what they wanted.
they wanted to update a single phone with a modified IOS.
there was already procedures between Apple and law enforcement.

>>62419316
>they wanted to update a single phone with a modified IOS
Right and they would have lost that court case if it ever went that far. I know the US government does plenty of shady shit that's unconstitutional, but that's way too far across the line.

>>62416113
He's 100% but it's considering how shit every single government is whenever people do what X Eceleb says or what the president says it's irrelevant.

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>>62419316
>"just this once, anon. Just the tip, I promise!"

>>62419391
If your phone is evidence for an investigation, it should be unlocked.

>>62417591
How did you not think any of the numerous offensive responses to this, such as "the niggers, because niggers ain't people"?

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>>62419355
highly doubt it.
it's almost no different than the government demanding access to your bank account.
they can do it with or without your permission.
your bank account is no different than your phone.
just like they can access your home with a warrant.
it doesn't really matter if you oppose it.
they legally can do it.

>>62419391
>implying i like how easily the Government can unlock or bypass security mechanisms.

>>62419391
>literally supporting refugee terrorists
excuse me anon?

>>62419413
What's the point of security if it can just be broken on a whim?

>>62419463
get better security.
which is what Apple is fucking lightyears ahead of android.
after the FBI vs Apple thing, Apple did make steps in making it harder for even Apple to bypass security.

>>62419463
You're not understanding my argument. A 4 digit pin is not secure at all. If you're dumb enough to put compromising information on that, you deserve it.

>>62419495
>Apple did make steps in making it harder for even Apple to bypass security.
Proof?

>>62419507
goddamnit.
now i gotta go do some googling.
i do remember reading about it after the whole debacle.

>>62419495
Yet they can't be assed to find out how the FBI got into the phone.
>>62419506
The phone being wiped if the pin gets entered wrong too many times is though. I see nothing wrong with that

>>62419523
>The phone being wiped if the pin gets entered wrong too many times is though.
Right and that's such a flimsy "security" mechanism that some random third party people broke it. I'm not advocating mandatory backdoors or anything, but the police have the right to try and break into any device if it is possible. If you want actual security, use robust, tried-and-true encryption methods.

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M E M E T I C S

>it's just getting started, goys!

>>62419552
Right, that makes more sense and that's something I can agree with. Cheers anon, thanks for the clarification

>>62419552
they have a right to try and get a warrant, yeah.

>>62419559
Sure is, that Russian investigation is looking pretty fucking good right about now.

>>62419580
Sorry, I was referring to devices they had a warrant to.

>>62419581
>people actually are dumb enough to believe media-invented Russian conspiracy theories

>>62416194
>>62416246

>everyone calling everyone else dumb
>those other people calling everyone else dumb
>they think a gathering on 4chan isn't a kind of 'people' group

If you tip any harder you'll alter the axis of Earth.

>>62419603
Pay attention to the investigation bub, it's another Enron ass whopping on a larger scale.
Shit's cash.
Sad the "m e m e b o y s" won't get to enjoy it because they're cheering for some puppet as president.

>>62419413
I am now investigating you for extreme faggotry. Surrender a dump of your phone's permanent storage to me or face the consequences.

This is the world you want to live in, you retarded americlap.

>>62419660
>what is due process
>what is a warrant
Come on now

>>62419660
WHATS NEXT????!!!
what if they had evidence that i killed my wife?
will they search my home even if i refuse them entry and lock all the doors????
what happened to the constitution?
what happened to the 4th amendment!

>>62419660
He even said that they still need to get warrants, anon.

>>62419660
>I am now investigating you for extreme faggotry.
Anon says looking in the mirror. "Now put your hands up where I can see them", he continues dropping the towel before giggling to himself like a deranged autist.

>>62419707
mr reiser what are you doing here?

>>62419463
>what is a warrant

>>62419763
Yes, anon. We already discussed that. I thanked him for clearing it up in this post:
>>62419566
It was at that point I inferred he would also support the investigating agency needing warrants, which he affirmed in:
>>62419581

>>62419507
>>62419507
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/technology/apple-is-said-to-be-working-on-an-iphone-even-it-cant-hack.html?mcubz=3

not sure if they ever really did anything about their security mechanisms but at least they said they would.

>>62419795
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/04/apple-wont-demand-to-learn-how-fbi-cracked-terror-suspects-phone/

Apple investigating ways to improve security without learning how the FBI cracked the current existing ones sounds so strange. Entire thing is so absolutely odd.

>>62416163
That sounds a lot like Communism boy.

WE DON'T DO THAT COMMIE SHIT IN AMERICA. Don't make me come over the internet to whatever third world shithole you come from and slap the freedom into you.

>>62419884
This post is a joke, to all of you who are going to take it seriously

>>62419834
Apple said Friday that it won't go to court to demand the US Federal Bureau of Investigation to inform the gadget maker how the feds broke into the phone

what was the point?
it's not like you can legally get them to hand over information on how they hacked something.
if you created an app.
i payed for the app.
and then i modified it.
you couldn't sue me to force me to hand over information on how i did it. (you could but it would be thrown out or you would lose)

>>62419910
if you created an.
i illegally obtained it.
then maybe you could sue me.
and then force me show the court exactly how you did it.

>>62419910
They could still FOIA at it. It's still completely illegal anyway.

>>62416113
JEW YORK TIMES needs to vilify the successful competitor. New flash Clinton brigade: Russia is no longer the USSR. Pack of niggers needs to be culled.

>>62419933
>FOIA

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/09/16/usa-today-lawsuit-fbi-iphone-hack-san-bernardino/90477540/

come on guys, this stuff just happened.
not even a whole year ago.

>>62419950
>JEW YORK TIMES needs to vilify the successful competitor.
>JEW YORK TIMES needs to vilify
>JEW YORK TIMES

>>62419910
wait are you seriously making excuses as to why apple should completely let this vulnerability slip?
LOL so much for security

>>62419981
Yeah, thats just intro level FOIA stuff though. There's whole realms of bullshit you have to go through to get any useful FOIA response.

That's the most stupid argument against freedom of expression I've heard.

Kardashian doesn't have any meaningful power, nobody would take it to the streets because she said so. At best, she might influence a few milions to buy a certain fashion accessory, but that's all.

Typical Russian paranoia, gotta be prepared at all time, every person that is not part of the Russian state and can influence a big number of people must be stopped.

Jeez, no wonder they are so fucking backwards.

>>62419416
He's from /tv/, not /pol/, that's how.
i.e. he's not retarded.

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>>62420001
what?
they could've gone to court
spent millions of dollars on a useless fight.
then lose.
for no fucking reason.
pick your battles.
a trillion dollar company could just go on the darkweb and buy all 0-day hacks.
and since there are very very few 0-day hacks for the IOS, it would only cost a few million dollars.

the one hack that the FBI obtained reportedly cost just under a million dollars.

>>62416113
>who is nancy peloski for 300
>DISTRUPT, TAKE TO THE STREETS, LITERALLY HITLER
It's only bad when we do it eh mister goldenstein

>>62420057
>op-ed
>what is clickbait
thought this was an 18+ website

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>>62416113
Meanwhile, the world was frozen in terror when they thought the president of the United States was declaring war on North Korea via Twitter.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-transgender-pentagon-fear-north-korea-declare-war-a7862091.html

>>62420057
they're right. if CP was legal there would be less child rape.

>>62419950
>crying 'vilification' when I did nothing more than quite your own press secretary, Dmitri Peskov
15 rubles have been withdrawn from your account. Don't insult your government's officials next time, Evgeny.

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>>62420030
Kardashians may not have the power to turn their followers into soldiers.
they do have the power to question the government.
these types of people could easily post enough "fake news" that the people following would subconsciously start to question the government or any other organization. (like the red cross)
what i posted:
>>62418864

>>62420108
*quote

>>62420112
can you post a screenshot of your /pol/ folder?
who saves these things?
jesus christ.
be a normal person and just save porn pics.

>>62416163
Funny how you have libertarian autism on a board that also complains about consumerism.

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>>62420160
It's a Kremlin shill. Spamming threads with ad hominems and irrelevant whataboutism like >>62420080 is one of the their favourite tactics.
Rather fitting that he gets to work in this thread :^)

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>>62420182
i honestly think anybody who saves pics like these are actual shills.

same type of people who have 100s of pics of donald trump memes anti or pro.

either shill or mentally unstable.

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>>62420116
this is what truly scares me.
the future is full of retards who only regurgitate what they see on the internet without actually fact checking it. because it doesn't matter if it is true or not, it only matters if it reinstills something i thought was right all along.
you just need an Alex Jones to corral all these willfully ignorant people.

just go to facebook and type in
red cross
and view all the comments

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>>62417585
>Modern day elites don't realize nor recognize this
Wrong

>>62416323
https://keithhennessey.com/2013/04/24/smarter/

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>>62420379
that smart son of a bitch knew that Saddam wasn't a threat!
there were no WMDs.
no chemical weapons.

it all makes sense now.
he wanted to avenge his father.
he even knew we would be in Iraq for the next 20+ years.
even if it meant the needless deaths of 10,000s of American soldiers
that fuckin mastermind

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>>62416998
what are they then? Fucking grasshoppers?

>>62420182
But the Kremlin supports Trump

>>62417591
So what's the trick? Yes, im dumb

>>62420051
>/tv/ is not a retarded board
Haha nice one, have a (you)!

>>62420116
>could easily post enough "fake news" that the people following would subconsciously start to question

That's a big IF / supposition. Any evidence that this happened?

>>62416387
Censorship is never justified. Russia is not justified to censor websites. The government does it to protect itself, but that doesn't excuse censorship.

>>62419707
>>62419701
>>62419724
The difference is that your house contains possibly evidence, like the dead body, the murder weapon, etc. The police can take a look at your house, and if they find something, then possibly take those individual items to their forensics, and that's it, then they leave.
Meanwhile, if the FBI/police/whatever is investigating your phone, they will 100% make a copy of your entire storage, whether it's relevant or not. Your vacation photos, nudes you got from your girlfriend, private text messages, your search history, etc. all in the hands of the government now, even though 95% of it isn't even relevant to the investigation!
In fact, you don't even need to be guilty for this to happen. You just need to be a suspect! Like say, your wife's son gets abducted or murdered, and police are investigating every possibility, which includes you being the perpetrator: Bye bye freedom!

>>62416113
The old USSR commies just wont fucking die already.
They hate information breaking news.
Tgey litetally give speeches like "if populus recieves information without controlled nedia spin they start thinking for themselves and dont want to be controlled hiw do we run a country like that?"

This is why burgers need to keep their guns, its to kill those people in tgeir countries.

>>62416113
>>>/pol/

>>62416387
Fuck off NSA.

>>62416163
>millions of fucking kim kardashian twitter followers
>judging ideas for themselves
perhaps (you) can judge for yourself anon, not everyone is as enlightened as you are
they require a guiding hand, and/or butt

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>>62416113
The fuck is this? Why can't the NYT of all places design readable headlines (their core business) properly?

>>62416113
I'm glad this is getting pointed out. It is scary af that most Americans don't verify anything they read or hear.

To come to a conclusion about an event is much easier when everyone on Facebook hypes it up with logical fallacies galore. It's too hard to think in nuance.

We've asked for this. Anti intellectualism, rigid conformity, and comfort breed a hysterical society that doesn't think for itself.

>>62416113
>“This will be a signal that will be accepted by millions and millions of people.
Yeah, I'm sure people who follow Kim Kardashian have a lot of drive, enough to do anything significant.
Hell, I bet if she told them to follow another twitter account they wouldn't bother with that shit either.

>>62416113
He is just afraid of the day when no one believes russian tv propaganda anymore since the internet is becoming more and more popular everyday. He is afraid of the internet because he can't control it.

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>>62419638
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtucUd9FauU

>>62417591
the ones in a relationship