windows is now justifying updates in message dialogues

This is like a clingy ex-gf begging you to take her back after she got covered in somebody else's salty nutella.

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>>62411327
>windows is a service

>>62411327
I have never, ever seen that message, I turn my system off every night so they just install when they need to.
Proly op is just retarded

>>62411327
>windows is a service
uhmm no sweetie

You can defer feature updates for 365 days on regular versions of 10 and security updates for 30 days. If you don't want feature updates at all you use LTSB. Don't complain because you're too retarded to look through settings.

>>62411367
Neither have I. But I just got it. First time I ever saw it today. I think it has to do with them rolling out their gay as "acrylic" update

>>62411390
I have home edition, you can't do that on home edition.
>just pay for standard

I paid fucking 90 bucks for windows 8, and they updated AGAINST MY WILL.
Fuck off. I'm not paying.

>What is the Alt-Right?
A hateful ideology that attempts to rationalize the lack of value males inherently have and why they're allowed to be so barbaric and lazy.

>>62411393
That's next month, this is the regular cumulative update that includes general security fixes as well as any updates you haven't installed from the last few months.

Also I've never received this message because I restart more than once a month.

>>62411393
No, that pop up when you delay updates for over a week or two I believe.
>>62411390
Why would anyone skip security updates holy balls
>>62411416
Paying what, just pirate it nigger

>>62411327
you know why they force update?
BECAUSE THOSE FAGGOTS TRACK YOU AND EVERY THEN OR SO THEY UPDATE THEIR SERVER API AND ALL THEIR FUCKING DEVICES HAVE TO ADAPT TO THE NEW API SO THEY DON'T FLOOD THE SERVER WITH ERRONEOUS DATA!!!!!

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>>62411327
> Doesn't know how to properly config updates
> Runs with all the normie settings turned on
> Surprised that the computer treats you like a retarded toddler

Nah, it's just that the computer interacts with you at a level matching your intelligence. Just deal with it.

>>62411416
If you have a home edition of a desktop operating system why can't you spare 5-10 minutes restarting your computer every couple of weeks? If your uptime is that critical you should really be running a server operating system, or at least an enterprise edition.

>>62411327
They now force updates because retards keep downloading and executing cryptolockers that have already been patched bringing entire businesses to their knees.

If you need Windows you should be on LTSB anyway.

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>>62411438
>Why would anyone skip security updates holy balls
Because it's my computer and I secure it however the fuck I want to. Booted from loonix livecd and deleted everything related to updates from system32, try harder botnet.

>>62411476
Its just neet faggots who think that leaving the pc on at all times is useful because they don't pay their parents electricity.
>>62411504
Dumb anime poster

>>62411504
unless you have access to the source code nothing you do is going to patch vulnerabilities in your software

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>>62411504
>fuck

>>62411474
>needs to configure "work hours" and configure his updates
Windows 7 never had a problem with updates and never had to do any of this shit. The most configuring I had to do with windows 7 was turn off mouse acceleration

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>Working in servers and data centers, restarts for install updates of Linux, Unixes and other is ok

>Restart in windows laptops is evil

>>62411474
this
windows takes your mmr into consideration

>>62411327
>Windows is a service
No it's a product. Fucking scum

Got an update today too, took ages to restart and boot.

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>>62411541
Windows 7 would harrass you to restart and even attempt to force a restart by default, so you're full of shit.

>>62411327
They are patching a 0day bluetooth vulnerability that got disclosed yesterday, so they are pushing it harder to avoid another cryptolock-like scenario.

>>62411561
It didn't took more than 4 minutes on my 9 old machine man, what are you doing?

>>62411565
please delete this image it just triggered my ptsd
>tfw window was bugged once
>couldn't restart now or postpone
>had to wait it out
nightmares

https://support.microsoft.com/en-ie/help/4038788/windows-10-update-kb4038788
it's a big one

>>62411547
You only have to restart for updates in GNU/Linux if it's a kernel update. Even then there are live-patching services.

>>62411565
And it would never force me to update. I could keep hitting delay 4 hours forever if I wanted to. Meanwhile windows 10 will restart regardless of what you're doing and won't let you delay forever.

Even then if I delay 4 hours right before I go to bed the computer will go off in my sleep. Unlike windows 10 which needs special fancy hours to do this for some fucking reason

Windows 7 and 8 never had this problem. I've never seen more b itching about restarting for updates ever than from windows 10

>>62411327
>>62411346
>>62411356
>>62411367
>>62411386
>>62411390
>>62411393
>>62411416
>>62411431
https://webmshare.com/m8vr9

THIS IS TOO FUCKING FAR, MICROSOFT

>>62411431
No the alt right are a bunch of faggots, just like you.

>>62411541
> Implying Windows 7 didn't have automatic updates turned on by default
> Implying Windows 7 didn't try to force a restart on you unless you tuned it off in Group Policies

Those are some thick rose colored glasses you got there, Anon.

>>62411613
>Windows 7 and 8 never had this problem
You can keep telling yourself this, but nagging updates was a staple in Windows 7. Sorry you're too young to remember.
And the active hours is so that it can update & restart without interrupting you, ie in your sleep, so you can get back to using it.
Then you can set a special restart time too, and disable notifications for updates.

tl;dr, there's more options now to actually have your system constantly updated without even knowing it's updating, but SOMEHOW y'all niggers still find a way to fuck that up

>>62411613
>Forcing retarded users to get critical security updates is a "problem" now
They deserve it, normal users who just shutdown daily don't have this problem.

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>>62411613
The point is you'd need to configure it to stop it trying to force a restart. You said 7 never had any problems with updates or had to be configured.

Also Windows 10 doesn't force you to restart or update at all if you're not braindead, this is a normal Pro installation.

>>62411327
>running smoothly
My computer becomes shittier and shittier after every new update

>>62411664
Prove it, oh wait, you can't

>>62411615
Fucking hell

>>62411613
You do realize you can configure updates in Group Policies with a lot more control than the toddler-friendly GUI they got going in "PC Settings", right?

>>62411652
>> Implying Windows 7 didn't have automatic updates turned on by default
One click to turn them off

Unlike windows 10 where you can't at all and the only way to regular them is with special hours bullshit

>>62411615
> SWE

Found your problem.

>>62411700
see
>>62411662

>>62411687
Why the fuck do I have to use group policy on a single fucking computer in my house its fucking stupid

>>62411716
you are a brainlet and deserve to be treated as such by your operating system

>>62411716
>>>/trash/
where you belong

>>62411716
Yep, retarded users like you should have updates forced down their throats like the little bitches you are.
Meanwhile, power users who aren't afraid of no group policy don't have to deal with this.
Feels good man.

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>>62411528
>I want daddy Microsoft to take control of my property so I don't have to pay for the consequences of my idiocy
Windows is the welfare OS.

>>62411700
> Unlike windows 10 where you can't at all and the only way to regular them is with special hours bullshit

You're a special flavor of stupid, aren't you?

> What is group policies
> What is registry editing
> What is services

Also why the hell would you want to turn OFF updates. I can understand not wanting to reboot outside planned maintenance, but completely turning them off will just make you vulnerable to shit like cryptolocker.

>>62411757
Not installing updates is the idiocy and being pwned by a remote execution exploit is the consequence.

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>>62411757
>it's another retard who thinks his "common sense 2017 XD" protects him from vulnerabilities in his software
pic related it's you

>>62411716
> Needs a friendly UI with smiley faces to hand hold him through the process of making changes to settings

You deserve having updates shoved down your throat.

>>62411327
i have never, ever seen that message...because i run linux

>>62411760
Why do I need to go through all the fucking effort of group policies and registry editing? What kind of bullshit is shit. I can't do a one click but I have to go look through the registry to disable updates that Microsoft will probably just reissue an update that will turn all that back on?

It's a fucking farce, I'll stick with windows 7 where I clicked one button 10 years ago than put up with windows 10 bullshit that I have to jump through massive gymnastics just to function anywhere near the same as windows 7

>>62411845
Read these
>>62411734
>>62411735
>>62411741
>>62411818
And now get out

>>62411327
Just disable windows update in services and enable it once a month. Hell I'm sure you could automate the process in task scheduler

>>62411863
No u

>>62411863
>it's not Microsoft fault for making an operating system so forceful
>it's actually your fault. If you want a functional windows on par with 7 just go into group policy to change settings, edit the registry because windows 10 on its own is so shit.
>back up said registry incase Microsoft issues an update to fuck up all your changes
>set arbitrary "active hours"

I didn't have to do any of this with windows 7

>>62411845
Group policy adjustments are standard for even the most basic of power users in any version of Windows, sorry to say but you are the target audience for automatic updates.

>>62411894
>active hours
>arbitrary
t. NEET

>>62411894
Just go back to 7 then fucking nigger, no one is forcing you to use 10, keep crying little salty bitch nigga, go be a retard somewhere else.

>>62411901
No its not. In 15 years of windows I've never had to touch group policy for anything other than setting computer permissions across a network of computers. This is one single computer in my house. I shouldn't have to go to great lengths just to make it work like windows 7. This is dogshit I've never had to do this much trouble shooting for something so simple it should have been there in the first place

Calling these monotonous edits and changes far beyond normal function is anything but. It's afunctionality.

Like windows 7 I should be able to just click one button not go through all this dogshit. Calling more complicated steps better is retarded

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>install updates that have been nagging for several weeks now, including creators update
>literally bricks the machine, network connectivity lost
>find out the network driver is too old to support teaming on creators update
>the old teaming setting got somehow hidden making it impossible reuse the manually assigned ip address
>this is really fucked up right now
>revert the creators update
>driver is fucked, missing features, only basic functionality
>can't even reinstall
>follow what the manufacturer's advice and erase every inch of the driver
>reinstalling still doesn't work
>manufacturer's lastly advises "reinstall Windows"

fuggg this

>>62411894
Read these
>>62411734
>>62411735
>>62411741 (You)
>>62411818
And now get out

>>62411925
>runs out of arguments
>ends up recommending windows 7 because it's better in the end

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Keep blaming the user you dumb street shitters, I'm sure you'll get a lot of Bing points today.

>>62411944
>it's the user's fault Microsoft made such a ridiculous operating system

>>62411952
>>62411957
Its better for retards like you, that's a no brainer.
>>62411972
Read >>62411925

>>62411894
You've yet to explain why you consider updates to be "shit". It is awfully negligent of you to leave gaping security holes in software as critical as your operating system. Even on my shitty laptop that I just use on the train with a 5400rpm HDD updates take no longer than 5 or so minutes to install. Your entire hatred stems from an irrational fear of restarting your computer, is your uptime number that important to you? I'm going to assume you don't pay for your own electricity and live at home judging by the average intelligence of your posts as well as your constant labeling of active hours as "arbitrary".

>>62411981
>you're a retard for not suckling Microsoft cock
How much did they pay you to defend afunctional shit

>>62411993
Having to jump through all that crap is not an upgrade

Having updates forced down my throat in the middle of me working on something is not an upgrade in user functionality

Having to set arbitrary hours for work because Microsoft wants to force updates on you because they made a system that is more complicated and worse than the previous iteration is not progress

Having to change the registry is such a stupid jury rigged work around that trying to substitute that for the simplicity of hitting one button on windows 10 are not comparable on anyway

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>Power users don't have any issue
>Retard users have issues

>>62411327
tfw micro$oft has detected my 3rd world internet and never suggest me updates still on 1511(10586)

>>62411993
Why do I have to set active hours anyway. What was wrong with the previous method of issuing updates? Protip there was nothing wrong with it

>>62411327
>BASED Daily Stormer visitor

>>62412037
>it's the os that's wrong

No according to you the user is wrong because he refuses to put up with less functional shit.

Windows 7 does it objectively better with less steps

>>62411981
This damage control is beautiful.
Keep crying you Indian ape.

>>62411957
>>62411972
Windows' primary audience is normalfags, and normalfags need updates to be forced on them or you get a repeat of time when it was daily news for some new worm using an exploit that was fixed in an update several months ago to tear through millions of computers. If you're not a braindead normalfag, it is very easy for you to configure the update system, the options are simply hidden just deep enough for normalfags to be scared off and decide it's "too much effort". Case in point, the retarded OP.

>>62412058
>there was nothing wrong with it
There's a reason Windows gained a reputation for being insecure, and it's because retards never installed updates and then laid the blame with MS when they got raped by some ancient exploit that was patched before the malware was even created.

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>>62412084
>Calling out retards its damage control

>>62412032
>Having updates forced down my throat in the middle of me working on something is not an upgrade in user functionality
This doesn't happen unless your "work" lasts for several weeks with no interruptions permissible, at which point you should not be using Windows at all, let alone a home edition.

>arbitrary hours
There you go again, just set it before you go to bed NEET.

>>62412093
>There's a reason Windows gained a reputation for being insecure
It didn't. It was the most sought after platform because it was the most popular

Pretending that the issue was getting updates to the computers and not the fact that malware developers could affect the most on the most popular platform is disillusioned

>>62412075
I think the joke was too deep for you anon, you should probaly rest a while.

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>>62412108
Stay mad kid.

>>62412118
>this doesn't happen if you work around these estranged functions and hours

Why does the machine tell me what and when I can work and when I can update? Why can't I use my computer outside these made up superfluous arbitrary work hours?

>>62411785
That's the point captain obvious, it's my computer and if I want to be exposed to that or solve it in any other way (back up, virtualization, sandboxing, network whitelisting..) it should be my fucking choice.

>>62412128
Two of the most famous worms from the 2000s, sasser/blaster, exploited vulnerabilities that had already been patched by time they were released into the wild. More recently you have things like Wanacry which, again, utilised exploits that anyone running up to date versions of Windows would not have been affected by.

You're either very young or just ignorant.

>>62411327
I've had next to 0 disk space for a while now and every time Windows tries to update it opens a box like that which is completely unclickoffable unless you hit more info, which brings up a new window for the updates page, which you then have to close.

It does this twice a day, and almost always when I'm in the middle of something. Recently all my icons went to the default blank white page icon, I'm almost certain it's to get me to free up space and download their botnet.

>updates are bad
>wannacry is bad

Pick one, retards.

>>62412093
>you need it because they said so

Fuck you my computer is a tool not some personified social media platform that gets to tell me I need to stop everything and restart

>>62412181
>Fuck you my computer is a tool
A tool in which you don't understand.
Want to see another tool? Check the mirror.

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>>62412142
>Calling other people kids when you can't change simple group policy settings
So, stay retarded, retard

>>62412165
No they weren't. You're literally defending a garbage system that "needs" updates because it said so. Contributing to the false illusion that you need Microsoft and can't function normally on your own

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>just blame the user

>>62411327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxXs0Yy5-0Y

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>>62412037

>>62412197
>I have to edit policy settings in order to gain basic control over the OS
Brilliant.

>>62412202
>this nigger thinks Linux is somehow more secure
>he literally ignores all the enterprise system hacks

Security through ignorance, eh?

>>62412193
No a tool I command not a tool that commands me to work around the tools artificially generated limitations that didn't exist before.

I use my computer as part of a simulator for molecular modeling. Shit takes forever to fucking calculate. I don't need windows telling me that I need to stop my research and restart and lose hours of work because it says so. This is why I use windows 7 because it doesn't fucking bother me with ads and updates at arbitrary times and forces me to restart whenever it wants

I'm doing important shit. Those stupid "you're only allowed to set 12 active hours" is a bunch of bullshit made up by Microsoft

This is why windows 7 is superior. It doesn't advertise to me and doesn't shut off my computer on a whim

>>62411528
What's even the point of these things? You can just restore from your backup if that happens, surely?

>>62412222
much better edit saved 2bh

>>62412230
Read these
>>62411734
>>62411735
>>62411741
>>62411818
And now get out, retard

>>62412246
Most of the servers in the world are Linux based. They are more secure and experience less vulnerability exploits than Microsoft does >>62412273

>>62412261
most of them are exceptionally shitty so basically
but most normies dont have backups therefore dead in the water

>>62412273
It's your fault windows 10 is less functional than windows 7

>>62412261
There are people out there, right now, dumb enough to have sensitive unencrypted non-backed information in a windows machine connected to the internet. Yes really.

>>62412295
>Less
Read these
>>62411734
>>62411735
>>62411741
>>62411818
And now get out, retard

>>62412202
>No they weren't
The exploit blaster used was patched in July 2003 (MS03-026) and blaster didn't appear until later that year. The exploit Wannacry used was patched in March this year (MS17-010) and Wannacry didn't appear until May.

PART AND PARCEL!!!!!!!!!!!

>>62412313
It is less functional

Windows 7 doesn't require me to go into the registry to disable the automatic updater that will shut your computer off without your permission.

>have a void server on my computer
>run it 24/7
>shuts off one day because Microsoft said I had to
>turn updater off in registry
>update my computer one day
>registry got reset because fucking microsoft
>shit starts advertising to me and restarting all the time again

>>62412337
>>>/ubuntu/
And don't come back! :)

>>62412337
>using a home edition of a desktop operating system as a server
retard

>>62412323
Yes right. Microsoft didn't give a shit until it was WAY too late. I still don't have the wanna cry update on several of my machines and I've not been affected at all yet

And wanna cry isn't even a famous exploit with how little people it affected. Even then you have two cherry picks put of millions of viruses not including malware Trojans and adware

>>62412280
>secure and experience less vulnerability exploits than Microsoft does

You nigger better source that somehow because right now it's the free as in freedom servers that are getting probed by cyberjamal with his nine inch digidick.

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>>62412337
>server
>on windows
>on windows home edition
Get out retard!

>>62412356
I can use a home edition of windows 7 and it works out of the box with zero issues

>>62412364
You can't even prove that Linux is less secure. You made up some shit about how "that insecure shit" based on nothing

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Just do this pals.

>All these people defending Microsoft in this thread and but one mention of privacy
Really noodles my doodles

>>62412157
I don't think you're smart enough to do that

>>62412389
Windows 7 home edition works great as a server os

It doesn't advertise or restart on me ever unlike windows 10 that wipes registry settings and boats up with garbage ware

>>62412363
I picked them because they are very well known, most malware attacks target people using outdated software whether it's the operating system, web browser, etc.

>i dont wear a helmet on my bike and im fine
Is what you sound like, don't assume you won't end up needing to have your brain scraped off the road just because you haven't yet.

>>62411327
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>62412420
>they are very well known

Hardly only memes in the reality of things you cherry pick to stroke your puny dick with because you have literally no arguments but you'll defend Microsoft so they can pay your liberal farts degree off

>>62412390
>>62412418
>out of the box
This is false and you know it, you need to activate several non-installed services to work as a webserver or anything server related, install software and disable useless home services.
It works out of the box actually for server editions.
Go away retard.

do you want a ransomware?

>>62412451
>This is false and you know it, you need to activate several non-installed services to work as a webserver
I downloaded the mumble and TeamSpeak server program, run it, set up all my shit and it works

And the os didn't get in the way at all.

>>62412390
>You can't even prove that Linux is less secure.
https://www.cvedetails.com/top-50-vendors.php
100+ vulns per 'product' is pretty bad desu

>>62412418
>16gb max ram
>Good server
Ayy lmao
Go away retard
>>62412471
>I downloaded
So its not out of the box you retard

>>62412473
Microsoft has millions of exploits

Hundreds for a particular kernel? That's it? You're out of your league

>>62412398
Post group policy settings.

>>62411431
is this a bot?

>>62412418
no it doesn't, you use an actual server OS for a server. your ""server"" is just some /v/eddit toy shit

>There are people who think not installing security updates makes their system more secure

>>62412483
OH what version of windows comes with a voip program?

>>62412485
Visit the link instead of running your mouth.

>>62412510
>you need a server os for a sevrer

No you don't. I've got it right now. Running a windows 7 home edition vm that runs a ts3 voip server 24/7 with no issues

>dude's running home edition as his "server"
>complains he has to update
so this is what being homeschooled is like

>>62412529
you're running /v/eddit toy shit, call me when you try to do actual work on your ""server""

>>62411615
What happens when you navigate to the task tray using the keyboard? Windows 10 lets you navigate there using the keyboard, right?

>>62412516
>visit my link I frantically Google

>"how many exploits does Linux have"

>>62412537
>that doesn't count because I said so
>that kind of server doesn't count its not real server stuff like i want because I said so it doesn't support my narrative and I can't handle being wrong
>some memes about reddit

Nice argument

>>62412566
>shows microsoft overall has more
>Y-Y-YOU'RE JUST A LINUX HATER
this isn't /v/ you don't need to be a brand defender~

>>62411474
>install any Linux distro with modern package management
>updates run in the background while you do other things
>reboot when you're ready, no pressure
>no need to fight against the OS
Windows Stockholm Syndrome is intense.

>>62412605
>reboot when you're ready, no pressure
You can do this on windows too, power user only who aren't afraid of group policy settings of course, seems like some anons here are just too retarded to configure a 2 minute thing and think the entire OS is bad.

>>62412605
>updates run in the background while you do other things
>reboot when you're ready, no pressure
Same on Windows.

>>62412230
>I have to change the computer's settings to change how the computer works.

gpedit.msc. Run it and shaddap you whiny little pissbaby.

>>62411816
It's his OS that he bought. If he wants to make terribly stupid mistakes with his property, it's on him, not Microsoft or anyone else

>>62412725
Are you retarded?
I bet you think physical video games bought on disc are "yours" too.

>>62412215
This video will have articles written about it about daring to use the 'n' word. Simiar to the recent pewdiepie fiasco.
It's a SJW world we're living in.

>>62411416
>AGAINST MY WILL.
Wrong.
As stupid and malware-esque as it was, Microshaft did give you a choice of whether to upgrade or not. You just didn't take the few seconds to read the retarded popup enough to see what they meant each time they changed the message and take the appropriate action to say no.

The message near the end said they were going to install 10 at such and such time, and to reschedule or decline it, click here. You did not.

>>62411327
>Windows is a service

TL;DR - if you install Windows 10, you technically don't own your computer anymore

>>62412812
>If you use a software service you don't own the hardware anymore
t. retard

>>62411474
so you either take it up the ass or give up on any future criticial security updates completely by disabling windows update in the services panel?

or do you mean the ability to select a 16 hour "do not update" window. oh 16 hours, how fucking generous of them. how about a fucking option to let me choose DO NOT UPDATE UNLESS I CHOOSE?

>>62412844
Read these
>>62411734
>>62411735
>>62411741
>>62411818
And now get out

>>62412769
videos is 2 years old you fuckhead

>>62411327
>waahhhh, windows gets updated regularly, too secure for me
meanwhile, linux has 20 year old bugs that no one gives a fuck about because no one uses it

>>62412822
t. means with regards ( the name after t. ) - it means you've granted greentext to his line and then presented yourself as retard, well done newfag.

Windows updates would not be so annoying if you could do it without restarting the computer like Linux does.

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

Behold, I can patch my kernel without having to even close my browser.

>>62412743
Well, that's how it was and honestly should be since you're giving the provider in both cases money for a product, not a service.

>>62413021

sudo pacman -Syu

is the best

>>62412490
I used some automated app to disable all privacy related settings. I forgot the name of it. Sorry.

>>62412995
>Not getting the greentext story is what the quoted post tried to said, just more clarified
>Calling other newfags
Holy shit just kill yourself
>>62413203
>how it was
Go read the eula of the first software or game you ever used.

>>62413021
What's the actual difference between that method and the computer restarting itself when not in use?

>>62412490
>>62413541
I found it https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

>>62413021
Apt dist-upgrade doesn't do live patching of your kernel does it?
It downloads the new kernel and wait for you to reboot to use it.

>>62413021
fucking retard
>>62413591
this >>62413659
computer needs to restart for it to be on new kernel

>>62413021
Would be great if NT could support in-place updates. I imagine there has to be some sort of big technical reason why it can't, it's such a no-brainer that even MS should see it.

>>62411416
Picokms

>>62411327
>Users finally realize they've been installing cyanide gas
>Microsoft telling them its fine

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>>62412872
t. Pajeet

>>62413715
>I imagine there has to be some sort of big technical reason why it can't

Windows kernel is a gigantic steaming pile of shit. That too technical for you?

>>62413591
An OS should manage and govern access to the hardware.
It should have a user which is in charge of selecting which applications to run and that user should also be the one to stop those applications.
An OS should never stop a running application unless some error occurs.
The acceptable way to do updates would to give the user instructions to shut down the computer and then just assume it would get done at some point.
If it is really important they do so, disable the option to sleep the system, then offer a way to restart the computer similar to what KDE does so you restart the applications when you bring the computer back on.

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op here, just allowed the update. Got a bluescreen 30 minutes after. gg

>>62412769
>the 'n' word
Why are you affraid of saying it?

>>62411327
>microsoft only lets you use your computer when they say so
>they also install advertisements by default and track your every move

lmao what a time to be a normie (read: wincuck)

>>62413853
>If it is really important they do so, disable the option to sleep the system, then offer a way to restart the computer similar to what KDE does so you restart the applications when you bring the computer back on.
That's already a thing with windows.

>>62411327
>justifying
They don't need to justify diddly squat, you dumb fuck. You're just upset because you don't want to reboot and wait for installation.
You're exactly why people charge hourly to remove compuer viruses. Get out of my board.

>>62411346
>salty nutella.
What the fuck are you even trying to imply here, you horrid little spergmutant?

>>62413977
Because he is a fucking nigger.

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>install Windows 8.1 Pro
>install Classic Shell
>update with WSUS
>???
>stop bitchin

>>62414276
>your board

YOU get THE FUCK out of your board then, faggot.

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>>62411565
>>62411654
But back then you could just tell Windows to not even check for updates automatically, you had full* control of your own system. This has been a thing since Windows XP, maybe even before that.

* - kind of

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>>62414467

>>62414752
But you can still do that.

>>62411327
I'm glad I switched to mint

>>62415470
Wait, mint gets updates too.

>>62415485
I've been using it for 2 weeks or so and never had the windows 10-tier nagging

>>62415517
So it will happily run unpatched until you have the sense to update it manually.

>>62415670
>So it will happily run unpatched until you have the sense to update it manually.

That's how I like it.

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>>62415485
many lewnicks deestrows have rolling releases (which may braek things) just like windows. the diff (this is a yewnicks command frend), and the bone of contention here, is the os does not force updates balls deep in your shitter like your first highschool boyfriend.

>>62414285
Black liquid chunks from a man's penor.

>he doesnt update on time and make sure all telemetry data gets to microsoft to improve his experience
are you a dark web neo nazi or something?

>>62415749
fawk yea, im a watch_dog 2

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>>62411327
>Windows is a service

>>62415708
You in da spek, nigga?

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>>62415067
No you can't. They force all updates on you now, unless you use some 3rd part shit.

>>62415699
h-how many nicole waterson reactions do you have..?

>>62415878
It's a quick regedit fix.

>>62415791
unironic fun game

>>62415947
Yeah, but it's not a built in thing hence "3rd party shit". Although a registry edit isn't 3rd party, so rather, what I should have said was, "unless you use some 3rd party shit OR fuck around with it." My point it that they do force them on you and you have no option to turn it off normally, you have to take a tedious route to do it.

>>62416071
Editing the registry from the command line takes like 5 seconds. I mean, for a linux user, this shouldn't be that much of a challenge.

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>>62415917
as many as it takes.

>>62416203
It is still stupid that you can't just do it from where you're supposed to. Also what command is it?

Asking for a friend.

>>62411615
>https://webmshare.com/m8vr9
holy shit

it's like your entire operating system is a malignant malware

>>62412337
I think you're in a ms shill thread or something, it's crazy how much people are defending win10

desu just install linux at this point. Do a dual boot, make linux your primary installation (mint, debian, ubuntu) and only switch over to windows when there's something you need that won't work on linux. For me, that's titanfall 2

I'm running mint
looks nicer
runs better
can still play most of my games
terminal is cool
ricing is fun
I update when I want
I control my computer and OS, not microsoft

>>62411327
I mean, when you have shartbongles like you taking every step possible to keep your system out of date, they have to start explaining why they need to do this.

Have you already forgotten the easily-avoided ransomware that destroyed the NHS?

Windows has to be forceful so the retards actually install security updates. Anyone with an IQ over 80 can figure out how to change the way updates are handled.

>>62416249
Jesus christ

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>haven't updated windows 10 for months and months
>but have updated my Debian Sid system everyday
hehehe but muh gaymes

>>62416519
When I was running windows I disabled updates entirely because of the nagging.

Now I run linux. It doesn't nag me. I update when I feel like it, and I get to selectively choose what updates I want. The updates are even given priority levels so I know what's been tested thoroughly and what hasn't. When I do update, it takes about 30 seconds and doesn't require restarting anything or interrupting what I'm doing.

Linux is, in every single way, better than microsoft when it comes to updates and I fully encourage anyone annoyed by Windows behaviour to give linux a try - download rufus, download a live-usb linux .iso, plug in a usb, mount the .iso onto your usb and then reboot, go into your bios to change boot priority to usb, and boot from your usb instead of your hard drive.

It is very easy, and very safe. You boot and run off the usb.

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Why is not MS working on rebootless updates?

>>62416642
>When I was running windows I disabled updates entirely because of the nagging.
What nagging?

I have never seen any nagging for updates.
The most I have ever seen is a notification that one has downloaded and I need to restart to apply, and I schedule it for when I'll be asleep.

Not having up-to-date software in a world where you're constantly connected to the world is one of the most retarded things you can do.

>>62416711
How much do you microsoft apologists get paid?

How does it even work? Do you have to record everything on your computer to verify to your employers that you're shilling properly? Do you get paid by the word, or by the post? What's it like selling your humanity, morals, and ethics down the river for oligarchic pocket change and lint?

>>62416812
>you don't support my retardation and truth-stretching you're literally a shill!

What's it like to believe everyone is against you because they don't share your diseased world view?

>>62411476
The question is why cant home edition run 24/7 when server and enterprise can and they are literally the same os.

>>62411327
>beginning a sentence with "Or"
pigfuck disgusting

>>62416980
Businesses have different needs than homes.

>>62411327
You shitlords need to accept that windows is a service now.
https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/daviddasneves/2017/06/18/demystifying-windows-as-a-service-wake-up-please/

>>62411367
>my system
only numales or know-nothing businesspeople say this

>>62411327
>Windows is a service
>updates are a normal part of keeping it running smoothly
>we've always been at war with Eurasia

>>62411327
>what is alt-right?
>by shlomo shekelburg

>>62411547
>restarting a server
lol

>>62412650
no it isn't

t. I use windows

>>62413566
pajeet got shitter shattered something fierce here

Maybe being a newfag who calls himself a retard wasn't a good idea after all?

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>>62411615
>https://webmshare.com/m8vr9
Current state of windows

>>62411327

Who cares ? It's literal adware/spyware masquerading as an OS. Only people who runs it these days are computer-illiterate, you're even better off paying through your nose for a Mac running OSX.

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>>62411327
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF WINKUCKS

>>62416696
They are though. Separating as much as possible into the windows store will bring that. You'll still need to reboot though unless an actual miracle manifests itself.

>>62417428
Not that guy, but trying to brag about years of uptime shows you don't manage actual production systems.

If you saw a machine that hadn't been rebooted in 1.5 years you should be afraid, because the longer it stays up the longer the chance of it not coming back if it does indeed need a reboot.

Hell, once a year my datacenter has a defined outage where we reboot our core switches and all other networking and server equipment that normally doesn't.

In the real world, you reboot. Granted it's normally every quarter or however your patching cycle is defined.

>>62417655
You fucking NEET retard. Your uptime is literally one of the things you can put on your resume as a sysadmin.

>>62411390
THIS DOESN'T KEEP WINDOWS FROM AWAKING ITSELF FROM HIBERNATION EVERY HALF HOUR WHEN I'M TRYING TO SLEEP

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>>62412605
>install any Linux distro with modern package management
>updates run in the background while you do other things
>reboot when you're ready, no pressure
>after reboot you get a black screen, UI is broken again for the 4th time this week
>recompile UI and hope it doesnt break the grub
>nice, it booted, time to shitpost on /g/

Never been interrupted by a win10 update... Had it for 1 1/2 years now... My PC is on 24/7 though.

>>62417682
No, your availability is, not uptime. Rebooting because of a patch happens in defined outages which do not affect that.

>>62416898
They have to rationalize spending all that time ricing, so to them viewing everyone else as a 'sheep' is the norm. Hysterically lacking any self-awareness 2bh

>>62412783
>opt out instead of opt in
>literally happens if you go afk too long
>it wasn't against your will

>>62417720
Good luck getting a job faggot

>>62417777
^ this lololol

>>62417718

Obviously haven't used Linux in atleast 8 years

>>62417746
But it was opt in. I opted in and then opted back out before the release. They still told me my update was ready and tried to get me to download it, but I never did.

>>62417655
>patch cycle
>rebooting
jesus your little data center might be cute but can you even into the phone company?

There is deployed equipment which has operated for 35 years or more which has never seen a reboot. You probably don't know about Distributed Unix because you're a millennial dipshit but it's a thing. What about other even more application-specific OS's?

Your little world might seem big but who does it plug into?

>>62417871
Oh so, blaming the user now?

>>62411818
>You deserve having updates shoved down your throat.
BLACKED

>>62411757
Which one's the not welfare os?

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>>62411615
jesus christ

>>62417887
in my case it didn't so much as ask, I just woke up one day and I had windows 10 and an unbootable drive, had to repair it and everything

This is fucking hilarious and was inevitable.

Pretty soon normies will not tolerate it any more. It's fucking retarded how shitty the pajeets have made Windows 10 but anybody paying attention saw this coming as far back as the switch from 2K (best Windows) to XP.

That's when I hopped off that train for good, bought a Mac because of reasons (TiG4) and never looked back. I will never allow a Windows machine to even get onto my network.

>>62417911
Then maybe stop leaving shit on overnight without actually understanding the processes and scheduled actions?
Like seriously if running a basic fisher price OS is too complex for you, I highly recommend Ubuntu. Sure it might be a little wonky, but you're a neet, your time is literally worthless, therefore you've got all the time in the world to fix things!

>>62417911
>Not knowing what's running on your OS
It was a windows update that installed the GWX and had an icon on the taskbar..

>>62417942
I hate Ubuntu but I'm an oldfag long time Unix user. For the newb it's perfect though and it gets them off the Windows tit.

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why would anyone want to use win10? it offers NOTHING of any value over win7

inb4
>muh games (name 1 GOOD game that can be played on win10 but not on win7, ill wait)
>"b-but security!" (win7 is still supported, and even when support ends, its not like it will instantly become filled with viruses (unless you're a fucking dumbass))

admit, you were memed/hyped or tricked into installing it, and now you defend it so you dont feel stupid, either way you're dumb cunt

>>62417942
this board is just permanently contrarian
you faggots will disagree with anything
it's like everyone here is 16 or something

>>62417973
>a magic symbol you never saw before popped up and this is supposed to be divined to mean that by morning your whole computer will be fucked up

>>62417979
Why use Windows 7? You can run all your Windows 7 applications in Wine at full speed.

>>62417992
It was there for 6 months...

>>62418010
tried ubuntu, it doesnt recognise my obscure tv card, drivers dont exist for it, i dont want to write drivers for it from scratch, and i dont want to buy a new one when it works perfectly in an OS i already use

>>62418056
>a magical symbol hovers on the edge of vision
>it pops up one day and nothing happens
>for 6 months
>then one day it rapes your computer
wow so advanced, amazing choice there

>>62418082
what tv card anon? it has them all

i smell a shill with a retarded and unbelievable edge-case scenario

you're the one who always has unspecified video issues with tearing too aren't you? the one who never replies when people try to help?

>>62417894
You aren't impressing anyone. Those embedded devices are the exact ones that makes stuff like regin so easy.

Not even to mention there is a reason you build primary and secondary systems, for the exact reason of taking one down at a time.

Stay in school.

>>62418162
>embedded
That's a pretty broad generalization. Embedded means you're too much of a brainlet to undertstand in this case.

You're just some server-racker with a fancy job description, probably you call yourself an engineer but you didn't even pass a PE exam of any kind.

Apprentice in the phone company and learn what uptime is and how to operate a service.

>>62412783
>Wrong
Ok, shill. Microsoft even had to do some massive backpedaling when their grand scheme backfired.

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>>62417979
you roll the dice
you pay the price.
failure drives evolution, anon.

>>62418221
>Apprentice
Sorry, punching down cables is help desk tier work.

Stay in school. It's funny how you went straight to specialized devices which can be hacked in seconds and aren't patched because no one will touch them anymore for fear of fucking it up.

Considering phone companies are constantly expanding software defined networking, your movement of the goalposts only goes so far.

>>62414380
>bloated shit OS
yeah no thanks

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>>62418127
>what tv card anon? it has them all

it doesnt

>i smell a shill with a retarded and unbelievable edge-case scenario

why would i shill for win7? all microsoft shills are pushing win10

>you're the one who always has unspecified video issues with tearing too aren't you? the one who never replies when people try to help?

never had any issues with video tearing, also since when was making up silly claims about people known as "help"? (pic related)

>>62418324
You need to be an engineer to apprentice with the backbone people brainlet.

We can't have kids like you going near stuff that actual people rely on.

>>62418415
>>what tv card anon? it has them all
>it doesnt
So in other words this is a hypothetical edge-case scenario and you're too lazy to try to find a current list of video cards which are confirmed not to work in Linux.

Why are you shills so lazy? It makes Windows look even worse you know.

>>62418492
Put your money where your mouth is then: prove you do that.

I'll wait.

>>62418523
I don't do it, I hire them.

>one update a month
>literally five minutes to download/install
You babies cry about any little thing

>>62418512
video cards?

do you even know what a tv card is?

>>62411327
>>62411615
Fuck this shit, I'm gonna have to move to GNU/Linux now.

Best distro that "just werks"?

>>62418886
Mint

If the arch hipsters convince you otherwise, then go with ubuntu or debian, but mint is about as "it just werks" as you can get with linux.

Once you've got everything riced up you'll wonder why you even put up with windows

Why do you still need to restart for updates in 2017?

>>62418939
Mint is literally reskinned Ubuntu you mong

>>62418939
>Once you've got everything riced up you'll wonder why you even put up with windows
>Linuxfags being this deluded
Much more accurately, yfw https://youtu.be/hfiewTiKAfU?t=1181
If you code or you want a less botnetty OS, get Linux, but don't expect it to obviate Windows' niche because that's an absolute pipe dream. For stuff that works best with Windows, you'll want to keep a Windows machine or partition around.

>>62418939
What if I want to play video games

>>62419636
I play video games just fine on Linux. If they don't have native Linux support they work through wine like 95% of the time, for me.

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>>62417716
Task Scheduler > Windows > UpdateOrchestator
Right click 'Reboot' > Properties > Conditions > Untick 'Wake this Computer'
Annoying I know

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>>62411615
>webmshare
??????

>>62418819
what TV card do you have?

>>62412592
Funny how people think that 'server = powerful computer with server OS' instead of the actual 'server = a device that provides services to other devices'.

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>>62411327
It's just a theory, but maybe
Because of so many normalfags falling for the don't update your wondous xd meme and getting ransomwared, ms is just trying to stay safe and force normal cunt homeusers to not make them look bad
You do realize you can easily turn off most of not all of telemtry and forced update bs via gpedit on win10 pro and enterprise, do you even consider yourself a /g/entleman if you havent done that already?

>>62418886
elementary OS

>>62418127
not him, but my soundcard isn't fully supported on linux distros either

you can stop acting as if linux didn't have driver issues

>>62418886
Ubuntu mate
or lubuntu
>>62418939
not this imo

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>shit internet because i basically live in the shire
>set witcher 3 to download while i sleep
>Zzz.midi
>Wake up
>Computer restarted
>It's just been sitting there all night going from power saving to "lets forward your CP to the feds" flashing the monitor on and off every ten minutes
I'm too dumb for lunix, i can't live without muh gaymes because it's my only form of socializing. left. This left me slightly miffed.

>>62417988
What you have posted is just simply not true in any way or conceivable fashion.

why does /g/ now defend Windows 10, an awful OS that spies on you and sells your data to the highest bidder? did the userbase of this board get replaced by /v/eddit?

>>62423154
More or less, as that's the only reason to install Windows on your personal computer.

>microshit windaids

Not even once.

>>62411565
It never tried to restart on its own on any of my machines. It does, however, pop these annoying postpone windows.

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>>62411327
I wonder who's behind this post

>>62413951
ur fucking dumb

>>62411701
kek

>>62412505
Probably yeah. Fucked up his navigation

>>62417718
>tfw i had this happen to me in windows 10

>>62411327
I never see any of the shit /g/ posts about Win 10 (ads, forced updates, etc)... is MS ignoring me?

Why use windows in 2017?

>>62424489
because linux software is still way behind

>>62424543
Regarding what exactly

>>62424587
drivers, video editors, games, etc...

>>62424635
Drivers are fine outside of gaming. So I see only video editors need to use windows then? Because most games run fine in wine and so does adobe actually

>>62424688
Wine is far from an easy solution for a lot of things
my laptop touchpad doesn't work, my desktop soundcard doesn't work properly
a lot of the SDL ports of games are low quality too with worse performance compared to the Windows versions(literally can't even alt-tab out of them)

there are too many problems

>>62411327
When will windows be able to update without restarting?

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>>62411607
>Updated the BitLocker.psm1 PowerShell script to not log passwords when logging is enabled.

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>dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu mate
>got ubuntu setup to replicate my workflow in windows, found a replacement app for all my windows ones
>things are great, actually feel like a poweruser and that I have control over my computer like how Windows used to be
>one day decide to try fix the login screen so that it displays at 144hz and not 60hz
>find some forum
>oh that's easy just edit this config file blah blah blah
>no wait! that other guys method is stupid, I have the REAL method on how to do this properly! you just have to edit blah blah blah blah
>end up fucking something up.
>try undoing all my changes and purging and reinstalling the homescreen thing (whatever the fuck it's called
>shits fucked, black screen on boot everytime now.

I think my partition is beyond repair. I did something and now I can't get it to boot to X. But that's entirely my fault.

>>62426399
That's my lunix experience summed up pretty well. Everything is great until that one thing fucks it all up.

>>62417718
literally windows 10 experience lmao, except you cant boot into safe mode

>>62418886
Devuan.

>>62426399
>found some forum

found your problem

next you'll be running bat files you got from 4chan.

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>your PC is monitored

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>>62429784
uwot

>>62429784
Also >hasn't removed Cortana or Store 'n Sheeeit glam from a taskbar on the bottom of the screen
You must have an IQ over 80 to post here, krautanon.

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>>62430272
>remove cortana from taskbar
>"i just removed the botnet, im now safe"

>>62411327
I will never, ever use windows 10

>>62430444
I respect the trips, but nobody suggested that it was. It's just what you do if you have developed frontal lobes, like picking trash up off the floor or washing your hands.

>>62430538
And notice how I pointed out the taskbar's position explicitly. That might've slipped passed you, sweetie.

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>>62420418
>SWE
most cucked country ever and this webm clearly shows it

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>>62416622
>not entirely stopping Windows Update
Plebs

>>62423055
Learn to use Lunix. Stop playing games and do something useful you fucking manchild.

>>62430627
im not your sweetie, honey

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>>62430936
What useful things for mature people such as yourself do you do?
CSS schemes and i3 themes doesn't count fatboy