Linux Foundation executive runs MacOS

Holy fuck.
>Someone uses an OS
>Other OS is destroyed!!!!
Get a life

>>62404950
you are either retarded or just trying to look like one.
When the main aspect of my job is a promotion of Linux and the main theme of my presentation is 'The Year of Linux on the Desktop' and I am using MacOS - there is something wrong with me. Imagine Bill Gates using MacOS, or Tim Cook using Microsoft Surface.

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>>62404931
I mean it's probably better than Windows. I agree that most Linux DE's are laughably bad. Unity/Gnome, both maintained by companies are blown out of the water by Mint, which is maintained by a couple dudes running on donations and as a hobby. You'd think they would take the hint that people don't want the touchscreen/desktop frankenstein shit everyone is trying to push.

>>62404931
>So, when even one of the main Linux representetives runs MacOS to get shit done - you can guess that GNOO/Lonox is a complete failure on the desktop.

Read http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2013/Mar-05.html, founder of GNOME explains why he gave up on desktop Linux.

>I invested years of my life on the Linux desktop first as a personal passion (Gnome) and when while awoken for two Linux companies (my own, Ximian and then Novell). During this period, I believed strongly in dogfooding our own products. I believed that both me and my team had to use the software we wrote and catch bugs and errors before it reached our users. We were pretty strict about it: both from an ideological point of view, back in the days of all-software-will-be-free, and then practically - during my tamer business days. I routinely chastised fellow team members that had opted for the easy path and avoided our Linux products.

>While I had Macs at Novell (to support Mono on MacOS), it would take a couple of years before I used a Mac regularly. In some vacation to Brazil around 2008 or so, I decided to only take the Mac for the trip and learn to live with the OS as a user, not just as a developer.

>Computing-wise that three week vacation turned out to be very relaxing. Machine would suspend and resume without problem, WiFi just worked, audio did not stop working, I spent three weeks without having to recompile the kernel to adjust this or that, nor fighting the video drivers, or deal with the bizarre and random speed degradation that my ThinkPad suffered.

>>62404950
Honestly its a really shitty look for them to not even be running the os they designed or whatever.

>>62405067
>Error 404 - Not found

>>62405038
Again
>Someone uses an OS that's different
>All of a different OS is dead!! Finished!!!
Appeal to authority isn't a valid argument

>>62405082
looks like your browser parses the , as part of the URL

http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2013/Mar-05.html

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>>62404931
A man has a work to do. He has no time to fiddle around ricing his DE.

>>62405093
>story from half a decade ago

>>62404950
The dude is the executive of the Linux foundation... The purpose of said foundation is to promote Linux... And he's refusing to run Linux. Lol.

>>62405113
still relevant today, Google and FB run on Linux but the development takes place on Macs because people don't want to waste their time on trying to get Linux to just WERK

>>62405176
Ok. He's still promoting Linux.

>>62405192
That's actually changing though, more people are using Linux than back in 2013. In fact, Linux is about to beat the latest MacOS in the desktop

>>62405193
Ok? What are you trying to tell me you have autism or something?

>>62405224
>lose argument
>le autizum may may xd

>>62405210
>In fact, Linux is about to beat the latest MacOS in the desktop
Does it include ChromeOS?

>>62405240
I don't think chromeOS is a big portion, even if it was, it's a distro of gentoo.

You were talking about development, right. Not sure how many people develop in chromeOS

>>62405240
No. The grow is pretty much connected to Chrome OS.
It Is still a Linux distro, though.

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>>62405253
>I don't think chromeOS is a big portion
Unless it has changed in the past few months Chrome OS has more or equal market share to Linux.

>>62405106
Oh my god. No wonder why Linux is a joke in America.

I run strictly on Linux, but the people at the high seats are fucking up this one.

Even Linux has so much potential to be commercial while preserving the open source philosophy, but they are still fucking that up too.

We will never see more people running Linux than the typical neckbeard, so don't expect more development.

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>>62405253
>>62405260
Fedora JUST WERKS for this """JVM performance engineer"""

>>62405285
"""""""""""""""""""""""""JVM performance"""""""""""""""""""""""""

>>62405274
>but the people at the high seats are fucking up this one
You wonder why they are so successful to begin with? They just want to get on with their work with no retarded distractions

>>62405268
>Unless it has changed in the past few months Chrome OS has more or equal market share to Linux.
How so?

>>62404931
>But serously, Linux is useless for me on my main computer
Not everyone is a huge manchild who needs his daily dosage of escapism in the form of video games. It's only a "failure" in numbers, it works perfectly well.

>>62405302
What

>>62405268
Also, did you completely miss the second sentence of my post?

>>62405314
Where is your citation for that claim?

>>62405074
>head honcho at the headphone company uses a tv with SPEAKERS
>headphones BTFO

>>62405338
>McDonald's ceo eats at places that aren't McDonald's
>McDonald's going bankrupt!!!

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>>62405274
yep. GNU/Linux is actually not a bad product. There are plethora of reasons to use it and a lot of points to make stress on when marketing it to folks. But it looks like GNU/Linux is just a magnet for worthless executives and marketers. ou also have Stallman that alienetes more people than he converts to Linux.
I mean, when a free product that is only slightly worse in some consumer computing areas than main rivals can't beat even 5% marketshare - you are doing something wrong.

>>62405332
>Where is your citation for that claim?
http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/united-states-of-america

>>62405373
Are you unable to read? I asked what the citation is for your claim that "Unless it has changed in the past few months Chrome OS has more or equal market share to Linux."

>>62405387
He doesn't have it, he's just talking out of his ass

>>62405311
haven't played games since PS2 era. I work in graphic design and use of Adobe products is essential for me. I still wouldn't want Adobe products on Linux because they are botnet and stand agains everything that FSF is trying to achieve.

>>62405038
Yes, it's called contrarianism, practice what you preach macfag.

Is Linux on the desktop even a priority for Linux Foundation? I think most of the sponsors only care about servers and embedded. Linux on the desktop is for hobbyists, not professionals.

>>62404950

this is what autism looks like

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>>62405398
Thought so. I also asked him how many people develop on Chrome OS, because he implied that development is done on macs as opposed to Linux

>>62404950
You don't understand a single bit. Go watch your anime kid.

>>62405422
>>62405412

>>62405412
>Be shown the flaw in your argument
>Autism!
K

>>62405402
>contrarianism
thanks, not everyday you learn something new in /g/.

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>>62405240
>>In fact, Linux is about to beat the latest MacOS
>in the desktop
>Does it include ChromeOS?

>>62405420
>I also asked him how many people develop on Chrome OS
Nope that wasn't me

When I developed under linux I hated those guys the most. Those guys who develop shit for linux but do that on os x.
Yep it's a lot similar and such, but their shit never works without issues because of lack of testing in actual target environment, also they are the most annoying to deal with when they need your help to install some module which is missing from mac infrastructure for any reason. Such a pain.
If someone develops shit for linux under mac os - fuck them. If someone develops shit for linux but has a PC running different OS for different purpose - there is nothing wrong with that.

>>62405411
>most of the sponsors only care about servers and embedded
because that's the market where they at least have some upperhand but of course they would like to have a bigger desktop marketshare. Jim Zemlin (executive who runs MacOS) is making a meme 'Year of the Linux Desktop' presentasions every year.

>>62404931
>Linux Foundation
Last I checked it wasn't called the People Running Linux on their Desktops Foundation

Face the truth neckbeard neet poorfags
highly productive people either USE macOS or windows
>business owner
>accountant
>executive
>lawyers
all these people need a solution that works out of the box because they are busy making money and dont have as much time as your NEETS to tinker around with the terminal

>>62404931
>> linux is shit as day to day OS.
>> linux is good for every other uses.(you can do wathever you want at the cost of time)

i use win 7 as home OS,
using linux for ROS Gazebo (Robot)

>>62405437
chromeOS is gentoo

>>62405467
>>business owner
>>accountant
>>executive
>>lawyers
Has it ever occured to you that these people don't know shit about computers?

Daily reminder that Miguel de Icaza, the author of Gnome and Mono, switched to macOS back in 2012, and what he wrote back then about the Linux Desktop is still true: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2012/Aug-29.html .

>>62405465
watch the video or read the thread.
The guy that makes "year of linux on the desktop presentation" is making it on a macbook and he is also just happens to be an executive of LF.

>>62405494
>what he wrote back then about the Linux Desktop is still true:
No it isn't. You don't even use LInux

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>>62405437
>>62405476
Interestingly Linux seems to beat out Chrome OS desktop market share worldwide. Only in the US is Chrome OS market share greater. Lots of niggas in Africa using Ubuntu and Russian hackers using mint maybe.

>actual gentoo creator switched to os x
how will g defend this?

>>62405515
So you really were talking out of your ass.

>>62405515
>8 times more people use os x
>>linux desktop will btfo it!!!!!
windows is around the same distance from osx

>>62405515
they are not relly spending money to bring them in Europe. You can't even get them in most countries.
Also, their website is literally broken
https://www.google.com/chromebook/find-yours/

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>>62404931
Friendly reminder that Lunduke is a fag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=radmjL5OIaA
Starts at 55:20.

>>62405040
i fucking love manjaro man, it's like just looking at the name and even the logo makes me giddy i don't know why

>>62405521
Appeal to authority isn't a valid argument for or against something

>>62405506
>You don't even use LInux
I actually do and have been using for the past 10 years or so, this is exactly why I know how fucked up the Linux desktop actually is, and I agree with his points about fragmentation and backward compatibility, all rooted in """hacker""" culture.

>>62405542
how about make a little summary?
not interested in watching an hour long video from 2012

>>62405494
>OSX killed linux
isn't it ironic that Linux is slowly closing in towards OSX marketshare on desktop?

Let's face it 2017 != 2012, times have changed. Newer hardware supports Linux right ootb, I got my Ryzen and Polaris work in launch day without even having to manually installing a driver for it

>>62405545
That's because you have autism
>>62405515
I wonder what the 2.15% Unknown is. Maybe computers with OSes too old to measure. Or proprietary OSes like North Korea's Linux distro.

>>62405553
>fragmentation and backward compatibility
>2015
Appimage rolls out
>2016
flatpak and snaps roll out as a fully functioning app containers

>>62405556
>starts at 55:20
>not interested in watching an hour long video from 2012
Friendly reminder that you are a fag as well. Only illiterate.

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>>62405558
This

>>62404931
So where is the actual video? Of him using macOS?

>>62405558
RX Vega driver came out literally at the launch day - day 0

>>62405542
>Lunduke: Are you actually putting the needs of having no non-free software above the needs of me feeding my kid?
>Stallman: Absolutely. I don't see any difference between what you're saying and what a thief would say trying to justify what he's doing.
TOP FUKCING KEK RICHARD STALLMAN IS A STINKY COMMIE PIECE OF SHIT

holy fuck this is an eye opening one. freetards should be gassed

>>62405627
>freetards should be gassed

and it's taken you this long to realise?

>implying you need any foundation in OSS
>implying it has anything to do with loonix
>implying the shekels are not diverted to:
>We use funds generated by the program to help drive our diversity and inclusiveness programs. With the help of our community, we have supported: Women Who Code (WWCode), a global non-profit organization dedicated to inspiring women to excel in technology careers; Transtech, an incubator for LGBTQ with a focus on empowering transgender people; Free Geek, which recycles and refurbishes used computers and provides desktop training for underserved populations; #YesWeCode, which is focused on training low-opportunity youth to become high-level coders; and Outreachy, an initiative that coordinates and underwrites programming internships for women, transmen, and genderqueer people.

imagine the shock when people learn MS is a platinum member

>>62405627
I can imagine you literally being excited over reading this, prompting you to type in full caps because in real life you would scream out of top of your lungs like the adhd child you are.

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>>62405542
both of their points are viable. Landuke is more down to the earth because he couldn't feed his kid by developing free software (now he makes a living only by promoting Linux) and Stallman is also right because non-free software is ethically wrong and should be banished (at least on the way it exists now). There is just no right answer but this is comedy gold:
>Lunduke: Are you actually putting the needs of having no non-free software above the needs of me feeding my kid?
>Stallman: Absolutely. I don't see any difference between what you're saying and what a thief would say trying to justify what he's doing.
It always amazes me how authistic Stallman is.

>>62405692
t. buttmad commie

>>62404931
> Linux Foundation
> irrelevant corporate bullshit that has always been violently opposed to freedom

nihil nove sub sole

Why does this matter? Why do you care what OS others run? This isn't an objective metric of quality, it's just popularity.

Macshills sure get desperate at the time of a new Apple keynote.

>>62405704
I think that he may tried to explain that a programmers job is producing code and by choosing to work for a company that makes proprietary software they are using their work to help unethical companies steal money/freedom from general population.
Which is a valid point if you consider that you can sell free software ,and that most bigger companies producing free software pay their programmers (just much less probably).
He tries to explain it by saying that programmers are a high paying job which most americans dont have etc, so they maybe should move to a lower paying job (working on free software) to reduce the monopoly that proprietary software allows.
Mind that he is autistic so genrally if someone takes money for producing software that "denies freedom" of users or sells data/etc (his point on "ms working on services") is in his mind stealing peoples money/freedom/data for personal gain.
Not that i agree because most people don't care about others knowing what they do online or abot modyfing source code of software for their own use, but if you read any modern proprietary license you can plainly see that most licenses are not the definition of being ethical with users.

>>62405704
How is non-free software unethical?

>>62406004
Proprietary software tends to have malicious features. The point is with a proprietary program, when the users don't have the source code, we can never tell. So you must consider every proprietary program as potential malware.

--Richard Stallman

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>>62406004
you are new here, aren't you?

>>62404950
Imagine just a second if Tim Cook ran Windows on his personnal computer
or if Satya Nadella was using a Chromebook
or if Sundar Pichai's phone was an iPhone

>>62406051
Oh, so the argument is that you're paying for software is like paying for malware, right?

>>62406056
Yes. Yes, i am. So?

>>62406072
>imagine if Apple's CEO ran a Microsoft OS
>imagine if Microsoft's CEO used Google hardware
>imagine if Google's CEO used an Apple device
None of these are comparable. Linux is a kernel that's used everywhere, that doesn't mean it's the best everywhere.

>>62406078
It doesn't matter if you pay. It's like you buy or get a chair. But to own that chair you have accepted an agreement which states that you can not give that chair to anybody or modify it in any way.
The government says that kind of manufacturer behavior is fine, and some people disagree. Some of those make their own chairs and specifically only give them to people who accept an agreement under which they can modify the chair and give it away, but only if they extend the rights from that same agreement to the persons being given the chair.

>>62405274
>No wonder why Linux is a joke in America
it's a joke everywhere else as well, except on a very "hidden" devices
>Even Linux has so much potential to be commercial while preserving the open source philosophy, but they are still fucking that up too.
No it doesn't, Linux doesn't have a corporation behind it's software, and that is bad because nothing forces nobody to fix Linux, should it get fucked at somepoint

>>62405038
Do you think the CEO of ford drives a Fiesta?

>>62406160
No, but that's because people are lining uo to be the CEO of Ford. I bet the CEO of some no-name chinese car manufacturer isn't driving cars his company produces.

>>62406004
>buy product
>don't own anything, be unable to sell or give your copy to another person
>license allows one copy with limited reinstalls
>software gathers user data for the company, and it can be later redistrubuted/sold
>software license restricts your usage scenarios (for personal use/development/production)
>you cannot modify and/or make copies of the software for your own use
Only argument on why it is ethical is "because you agree to it by buying/using the software", but often you have no choice because you want to feed your children.

>>62405364
>There are plethora of reasons to use it and a lot of points to make stress on when marketing it to folks
There are multiple corporations running Windows AD servers because it has support, if the Login,or something else, goes fucky you can contact Microsoft for it.

While with Linux you have kinda the same thing but if you are already running SMB or something else with Microsofts branding that means you need to find alternatives, if there are ones

Tl;Dr Corporations don't want to change because it fucks the working ecosystems in their IT

>>62405285
*tip*

>>62406126
This, but then Apple comes and patents it as an iChair.

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the motherfucking entire internet runs on linux
ǃǃǃ
just tile and compile all of your shit and you'll be better than alright

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>>62406078
okay, so basically every piece of software is a code. A code is a command that tells to your computer to do certain things to achieve certain results.
So by using closed source program you basically lend a right to do anything with your personal computer to a company that manufactured this particular software. And so happens that creators of non-free software are trying to abuse their power as much as they can by installing backdoors, unwanted functionality, restrictions etc. in their software. Also all software is basically a product that restricts you to do anything with it even if you own the product. Imagine that you bought a car which restricts you to change a wheel when it's flat (we are getting there) without using an official servisce which may come to your help when they will get to their next release but that's not really their focus right know because installing new advertisment in your navigation system is more important to them right now.

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Wasn't Ubuntu supposed to be idiot friendly?
I get a new surprise every day. Year of the Linux desktop my ass.

>>62406309
holy shit and pissǃ
there's a gui for fucking everything nowdays

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>>62406211
>being this fucking stupid and not understanding the basic concept of Enterprise software

you Freeturds still wonder why aren't you employed?

>>62406294
mm mm nigga I ain't reading all dat shit

>>62406382
>(((enterprise software)))
>http://storefront.steampowered.com/eula_testapp17390/english.html

>>62406294
Got it. That's why somebody up there said that non-free software "as it is today" isn't ethical.

>>62406456
Steam isn't enterprise software

>>62406072
Okay? What's your point? They must live and breathe their work at all times?

>>62406502
thats actually the EULA for spore, and i never mentioned enterprise software in >>62406211. Idk why >>62406382 brought it up, additionally while calling me a jobless freetard when im posting this from windows 8.1 and chrome.

>>62406072
Preference my friend, preference.

>>62406556
also before anybody points that out, its my choice as a free person to feed my children shitty drm locked games, it just would be much easier if i could copy them to dvds from wallmart for my personal use.

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>>62405559
It's fucking leet h4xx0rz using top secret military OSes employed by Her Majesty's Royal Navy itself, anon.

Or their shit software breaks when trying to read the OS on Windows 10 for some reason like I've witnessed some software do in the past.

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>>62405285
*Snort* She should be a dietician or thump'n. Tssss

>>62404931
>execute of Troyan horse in Linux community is using MacOS
really activates my almonds

>>62405274
>>62406133
it powers the web and it powers your smartphones, what more do you want from it?

Someone did desktop better, linux is still amazing at what it does best, which is providing a stable framework for other applications to exist upon.

>>62406673
not him but I really don't care about Linux that much but I like open source and free software and GNU+Linux is the closest thing we got to a usable open-source OS that is repectful to it's consumer. It is just sad that an OS that can be so much more than it's already is struggling to get marketshare which in turn can get more goodness to it like good free software which is towards not only to devs.

>>62405296
>>62405285
bitch looks like a jvm - eating all resources it can find

>>62404931
desktop Linux has massive upkeep, OSX and Windows don't

there's no reason to begrudge somebody using something stable until the thing they truly want to use becomes stable

the fact that they're dedicated their careers to Linux should be far more important than whatever their laptops run

>>62407002
the fact is that they're bad at their job is more important.
GNU + Linux desperately needs some new and competent representatives

friendly reminder that richard stallman is a stinky piece of shit

>>62407059
really? you want to put linux in a pr machine so it gets ripped apart by uneducated people who happen to have money and push it to a strategic disaster?

linux as it is, is in an ok place from a pr point of view. the areas where it's used has shaped it to be functional where it's demanded, which is not the desktop area.

every community that tried to work around this issue by creating yet another distribution to support their desktop environment failed on every aspect. it's good that it's a niche area and it doesn't need fixing. we have windows which does a decent enough job, is able to integrate in heterogeneous environments, while apple products barely are.

forcing linux to be an all-round wonder like windows will just cripple it look at dbus turning to kdbus etc

Linux is the only thing that runs i3 or sway. as long as macos and windows can't match that they can fuck off.

>>62407190
>Linux is the only thing that runs i3
OS X and *BSD should both be able to run i3, as for sway, I don't know what that is.

>Desktop
Is this one of the most overused buzzwords in consumerist technology? For 99% of things you literally just need a terminal to have a "desktop". I feel like the people who get caught up on Linux and its "desktop readiness" are those that haven't used it, are illiterates, or don't understand you can install any DE or WM you want and not be tied to any given distro.

Linux desktop was dead anyway because of freetards.

The Linux foundation care only about the kernel, not where it is used or for what purpose, complaining about them using the right tool for the job is like a saying cars are dead because a mechanic boss rides a motorcycle to work.

>>62405268
>chrome OS isnt a linux based system
W E W L A D
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>>62407217
>OS X and *BSD should both be able to run i3
not really. https://faq.i3wm.org/question/1981/how-do-i-install-i3-on-mac.1.html

>And, while OS X can have/use X, most of its applications do not.

>>62405285
>flood
What a containment failure

>>62407254
All that says is that OS X can't run all X11 applications, not that it can't run i3. I've never tried i3 specifically but I know I've had dwm running in OS X before. And it says nothing about *BSD. Also I know it's only anecdotal but I've used OS X's XQuartz for dozens of X11 applications over the years and have yet to run into an issue.

I only use Linux and it sucks. it's shit. everything sucks.

I prefer using 90% command line, it's about the only good thing. Although I could do the same thing with DOS 5.

For all the autists going on about how amazing it is... it really isn't.

most stuff is half assed slap together and never fixed, buggy as fuck and just looks like shit

>>62407336
The point is that you don't want to use i3 for X applications only. You want i3 to manage ALL your windows, and not all osx windows use the X interfaces. That's what makes it useless.

>>62407349
Well of course you can't manage Quartz Compositor applications with an X11 WM. Either way, you can most likely use i3 on OS X.

>>62407381
The only meaningful value of "use" for a window manager is when it can manage all the windows of the desktop. Otherwise we're arguing technicalities.

>>62407337
buut it's free!
Really, I'm amazed that such thing as Linux exists and functions more or less like a real desktop OS. Not sure that it would happen without RedHat.

>>62407413
I'd disagree. I've found it handy to use dwm for OS X applications and dwm for X forwarding

>>62404931
>linux foundation
>ever

>>62407337
kind of agree. not everything is bad but the UI designs are just terrible, not only the aesthetics but the underlying concept. if want to start at the ground-zero of why linux desktops are shit let's start with X11. it was and still is broken in so many aspects and got ignored for years. in the last year wayland became somewhat relevant and lacks development. the DEs are just as bad. they aren't as modular as they should be, replacing certain libraries/functionalities is barely possible making modernization more complicated and more time consuming.

this is where opensource is both good and bad; to many projects trying to replace certain functionalities, communities advocating X while project trying to evaluate A-Z.

the worst part with the recent development of desktop environments is that they don't start from scratch, they mostly base their functionality on gnome, instead of starting fresh and resuming with the same flaws that the previous project had. then comes the amazing refactoring breaking stability and maintaining multiple branches of the same project with different sources ...

its horrible

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>obvious apple shill

>>62407443
*Quartz Compositor for OS X

linshit KEKS IN MAXIMUM DAMAGE CONTROLL LOL

just accept that your hobbyos is shit and nobody wants it except uber autists

shish linux master race shish

>>62407521
>damage control
>earning money with "hobbyos"

y u amd tho?

>>62407453

there are 140 shitty broken distros we dont like. lets make our own that will be better.

now there are 141 shitty broken distros no one likes. this is the current state of the open source autists

open source amster race windows is shitz

really windows is cancer linux is far better than mac or windows + win and mac have A SHIT TON OF BACKDOORS AND SPYWAREH

>>62407558
as i said earlier in >>62407178

that's how the community tries to modernize it but there is simply no interest from a commercial side nor a focus from the community. the community thinks they can bypass interest by forking a distro and adding their UI concept without having clear goals or goals being torn apart by paying to much attention to the community.

there is also the problem of trying to fit in. be like windows or more like osx. linux trying to go a different path hasn't really worked out well in the past, we can see the result in the disaster that's called gnome3

>>62406160
underrated post

>>62405422
If an operating system works for me, why should I give a shit about who else uses it?

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Linux is just a kernel. His job is to develop and promote the kernel. It's only natural he would run a fully functional operating system instead since Linux isn't one.
>b-but he could have used GNU, BSD, Android or ChromeOS
That's right. He could have used those operating systems on top of a Linux kernel, but what if he doesn't like those operating systems? That's not under his (or the Linux Foundation) control; so he just uses Mac OS.

>>62407613
>i own and run a router with proprietary software and trust my isp
>fuck osx and windows botnet

>>62407688
>guy on the right is called ubuntu

>>62407635
Free software projects are unorganized mess...duuuh.
Whatever freetards are saying - free software has no future in any area. It's too uncompromising. Open source, on the other hand, is gud and is the future but there is still one problem - how do you stop some Indian and Chinese software companies from stealing code and making closed source applications?

>>62405929
No it's a completely pragmatic question.
Why spend resources and labor on reinventing the wheel? Because that's what proprietary software forces you to do. All those corporations need a lot of the same infrastructure. Imagine all of them creating their own C compiler, their own network stacks, their own libraries for every little thing they use.
It would be a mess, it would waste money, and everyone would be worse off. That's how life was before open source became a thing.
Open source allows people to share the work they already did FOR THEMSELVES. They needed whatever it is they created or fixed to work. They have what they need. Why not share it? Because greed, obviously.
But you wouldn't lose out on money if you open source your stuff. Customers don't give you money for the software, but rather for the support and the services you provide with the software, like the servers you own that serve requests with that software. Just because someone else has your software doesn't mean he will be able to steal customers.
Unless he improves on it. In which case those improvements help you too. Because it's freely available software. Everyone's better off with open source, and it prevents rent-seeking, like what big proprietary software companies are increasingly trying to do.

>>62407720
desu, who really cares at this point. sure it's not great but linux itself has so many supporters in so many areas there's almost no need to worry. and even if, at some point if you get to the lower levels it would be found out and it wouldn't be the first time where the fsf would win a lawsuit over copyright infringement.

open source isn't really unorganized, most projects are. if you don't have people like linus, who publicly humiliates you for your retarded code/design/etc you would be just run over by these kind of retards and your project would die.

other projects don't really have that. one of the reasons why apple was and partially is still so successful is simply because they have good and strict leadership which drives their product/project

just bowing over the community rarely results into something that lasts very long

>>62405285
Christine flood more like Christine food

>>62404931
The last good leader of LF was Ian Murdock. The current idiot do a good job as well, but don't care about desktop usage. Linus still uses it and that's enough for me.

LF also posted a webinar that was only available from homosex and wangblows. Maybe useragent spoofing can do magic, but still a disgrace for the community.

>>62405460
>making a meme 'Year of the Linux Desktop' presentasions every year.
Doko?

>>62406309
>running desktop application with sudo
:^)

reminder that nobody on /g/ actually knows anything

>>62408959
I know how to use google.

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>>62407720
Have you ever heard of FBReader? Freefag ebook reader made around '05. Around '08, it was forked in Java and later ported to Android. Not long after, Moon+ Reader, a popular carbon copy of FBReader's Android release developed in China (1/F,No 75 Cheung Shu Tan Rd, Taipo, N.T.,HongKong), went up.

>>62405285
I swear to god I've read "the plethora of foods..."

Which is why I am not a ricing time wasting NEET faggot like some subhumans here who think all this "configuration" makes them entitled to a pajeet tier job. Gone are the days when philosophy was "if it ain't broke, don't fucking fix it '. Now it's "lemme use a broken distro which will break more when I try to fix it, so that I can say I configured it and optimized it to run some basic shit other distros do out of the box, and I only used some step by step guides for retards, give me asspats and compliment my anime wallpapers and screenfetch which shows my NEET useless cancer standing in society"

>>62404931
Hi Brian, nice video, watched it this morning.

>>62404931
Why the fuck would he need to run linux on his desktop? Can't the guy have multiple other things running linux? I'm pretty sure most of the Linux Foundation focus is in the kernel itself.

>>62404931
>expecting someone to run an os for servers on their personal laptop

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>>62406072

>>62406657
chip?

>>62405040
Most likely people using Ubuntu don't know shit about other OSes.
It's like mint in the top cause one time it happened that it was in the top and everyone just started to check why this distro is popular.

>>62405285
To be fair she's probably competent, seeing as how the only competent women in tech are either manly looking (like Mommy Lisa Su) or ugly as fuck.

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>>62405106
>being an OCD retard

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>>62404931
Creator if GNOME runs macOS!

Creator of GENTOO LINUX runs macOS!

They all run macOS. Only poor pajeets who can't afford macOS run Linux on desktop!

>>62407687
I thought Linus Torvalds uses Fedora?

>>62407720
You could simply not buy your software from pajeets & chinks.

>>62406861
Why do you believe that "marketshare" is a good thing for Linux?

>>62404931
doesn't affect me

>>62405192
it's not, though
resume / suspend works now
wifi works now
I've never had problems with audio in the last 5 years
I haven't noticed any kind of random speed degradations, ever

>>62414850
Kinda understand. Other OS don't give you that kinda oportinity to rice. When one can rice one will rice.

>>62404931
Microsoft owns the country's largest Mac lab. Apple's engineering division runs Windows computers
What's your point?

>>62404931
>>62405193 like he said, promoting Linux in a proprietary environment is still great.

>>62405067
>Miguel de Icaza
Oh, this meme faglord.

>>62404931
The Linux foundation is a joke.

>>62406979
lol

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>>62416401

For some reason Lunduke is annoying to me.

But he's telling the truth, I've been telling people where I work they need to use Linux if they want to be good at their job.

>>62417845
He's annoying to everyone, thats just Lunduke being Lunduke. Still a pretty cool dude.

>>62406072
>0
>Imagine just a second if Tim Cook ran Windows on his personnal computer
It's an open secret that Bill Gates always used a Mac as his personal computer.

>>62405627
>make sure to not have kids
>my free software matters more than your kid
((RMS)) is a piece of shit

>>62419196
why the fuck should I care about ur kid tho?

>>62419196
that was old lunduke anyway, he's gone full freetard now instead of shitty indie game dev or whatever.

>>62419221
fuck off commie retard
I'm not working for free

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>>62404931

>>62419274
>Cherry picked part of the article
Fuck off, you clearly don't have the decency to not quote mine

>>62416401
>>62417568

The difference here is that the Stallman one is actually real.

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I posted this yesterday and I am just going to leave it here again today.

>>62407688
There needs to be a soft brown jungle baby in the middle to complete the SJW fuckfest.

>and maybe a pooloo in the back coding in java