/hpg/ Headphone General

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The snapping truth

>>62394025
What kind of mong would own expensive headphones and stretch them out to the point of snapping? I stretched mine over books that were way wider than a human head and they didn't come close to snapping. What superior headphones do you own friend?

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Idol trash here.
What's your pizza like, Anon?

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When you compare the HD 600 to the HE400i and you see that that mess.

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The Aeons are finally here.

>>62394212
Dominoes? I fucking love chicken but not on a pizza for some reason. I prefer more savory meats on them like sausage and ham etc.

I'm fucking hungry.

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How long did it take you to realize that the Apple Dual-Driver IEMs are the best IEMs below 200 USD for the price of only 30 USD?

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>>62394248
What are you driving them with and how's the sound? What other headphones were you using?

>>62394241
I'm a 600 owner.

Nobody fucking cares anymore.

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You know how I take measurements?

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>>62394274
Yeah, w/HD600 and schiit uber stack. Also das keyboard 4 ultimate (mx browns).
It's the texas bbq. I do like it and tend to order it, although not all the time, as I slowly am trying all the preset pizzas they have.

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>>62394275
Hi jelly, how you doin?

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>>62394276
rest of my schiit. Also have ath-msr7 not pictured. Thinking about getting a tube amp sooner or later for comparisons sake.

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>>62394416
now why it posted upside down, I dont know

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>>62394275
t.Jocquise

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>>62394516
>
You were saying?

>>62394416
What cable? I know that the jack is pretty generic so I'm guessing they're a random cable from ebay? looks nice though. I have a custom shortened version of the 650 cable on my 600's.

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>>62394580
the cable plugged in there is actually from the aeons. It's the only part I'm not that happy about, it feels a little weak and unrefined, especially when it splits. I'm thinking about possibly ordering a custom cable.


I use the base cable for the 650's just btw, I like the length of it,

>>62394555
>poorly sealed

>>62394739
[citation needed]

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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?

>>62394770
Don't you mean
>What is the second best headphone behind the HD650?
instead?
Anyways, the HD600

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>>62394770
DT880.

>>62394275
That's not the Etymotic MK5.
>>62394555
Even assuming that's an accurate measurement, which it clearly isn't, that's a terrible measurement. No fucking upper mids.

>>62394895
>which it clearly isn't
See >>62394766

>No fucking upper mids
>says anon judging by the graph he previously said was a terrible measurement
So? Which one is it?

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>>62394938
Either >>62394516 is accurate and it is terribly melanin-enriched or >>62394555 is accurate and it has no fucking upper mids. Either way, it's shit.

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>>62394989
>no fucking upper mids
You happy now?

>>62394693
Ah I see.

>>62394770
The 650. Now please stop.

>>62395038
What's your point? HF5 is vastly inferior to MK5 and not something I'd ever recommend, HF5 doesn't have enough upper mids and that shows the Apples as having 3 dB less upper mids than the already deficient HF5.

>>62394248
>gets aeon and posts pic
>no first impressions
what the fuck is wrong with you anon

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>>62395176
>pic
BTFO

>>62395038
>measurably darker than the already dark HF5
So... it's shit.

>>62394003
Here I am like a fucking cuck with my 600's listening to the same shit everyday on my spotify premium list.

Recommend me something nice to listen to. I like anything, as long as it's good. I don't like most rock music, and no, my name isn't tyrese

Recommend anything from beethoven to the latest rap meme. I'm picky and I need new songs.

>>62395238
Yes, the Apples are very strongly BTFO there. Good observation.

Guys, just in case, do NOT bully >>62395248! He's blind, it's not his fault he was born like this :(

>>62395253
>spotify
Found your problem.

>>62395038
>raw

>>62395038
Jelly, why you meming?

>>62395357
Jelly a cute

>>62395307
Raw measurements are much more useful than shitty retard independent of direction compensated measurements.

Where can I get a shorter cable for my HD600s? There was a drop on Massdrop with replacement cables for major models, but some guy in the discussion said they were awful quality, so I kind of steered clear of that. The stock cable is extremely long, which isn't really something I need with my setup, although the option is nice.

>>62395426
Amazon has shitty $20 cables of varying lengths that work just fine.

>>62395426
Just let a loop of it hang behind your desk, or shorten it by some other natural means. You don't really need a shorter cable, only cable management.

>>62395302
I have other sources, but spotify is actually good.

>>62395265
>Apples are very strongly BTFO there
[citation needed]

>>62395307
Raw is way better to use in cases like these. Also, never trust a compensated graph on it's own unless you compare it to another headphone you have already listened to, and even then it's arguable.

>>62395357
Because the Apple IEMs seem like a miracle.

>>62395412
<3

>>62395463
My amp is up on my desk. I really only need like a 3ft cable.

>>62395488
So is mine, and right in front of me. And yet, I have no "excess" HD600 cable. I do simply let it hang behind my monitor and then up again at the other side of the monitor's base, then from the monitor it goes hang again on the left of my desk, and then up again to me. If I need more/less slack, I just adjust where in the left of the desk it loops.

>>62395549
My cable goes to the floor, and sometime I drape part of it across my lap. I can't really imagine why you're putting it on your desk. I guess that gets it out of the way, but it seems unnatural.

>>62395584
>I guess that gets it out of the way
It does. And the cable never goes anywhere near the chair thanks to that.
I suggest to experiment a bit.

>>62395648
Yeah, I guess I'll try a few things. Thanks.

>>62395549
>>62395584

Just braid your cables you autistic fucks.

>>62395734
What do you mean?

>>62395745
https://youtu.be/Rt-m6C5-T0M

>>62395475
I'm sorry that you can't read graphs.

>>62395776
Huh. That seems bad for the cable, but I guess it's a neat idea.

>>62395846
It's no big deal. I've done it with a bunch of cables, as long as you don't make the bends too tight it won't damage the cable and the friction will be more than enough to hold it in place.

>>62395253
RECOMMEND SOME FUCKING SONGS.

Weeb shit, pop shit. Anything.

>>62395895
Hanson - MMMBop

>>62395895
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfYk5KAyrrA

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>>62395180
As for first impressions, they obviously sound incredible. I put the foam pads in to help with the bass response, and unlike the 650's, the closed back nature of the aeon's helps me to "feel" the bass more, while at the same time the bass has never been overwhelming, and sometimes even feels slightly recessed

Like many of the reviews say, the are incredible at perceiving details (and errors) in songs where I had never really noticed them before. It's sort of like a double edged sword - well produced tracks sound absolutely incredible, however poorly produced tracks are more noticeable as the errors do not have a warm sound signature to hide behind.

I would say that they have a relatively balanced signature, with a slight emphasis on treble, especially on things like high-hats and the like.

Soundstage is fine. Nothing incredible, but that is to be expected from closed back headphones. Imaging is incredible however. I can hear exactly where each instrument is coming from, and every instrument seems to have a direction. Not muddy at all.

Comfort is insane. Super soft pads make the headphones feel incredibly light on my head. They are light overall, something that is hard to do with planar magnetics.

Overall 9.5/10, wish there was a little more sub bass, but not a big issue. Also not a big fan of the stock cable.

>>62395895
>>>/mu/

>>62395895
Go grab the new Kitty album. Miami Garden Club.

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>>62395895
Cowboy Bebop OST

>>62395895
https://youtu.be/AbckldG1y-0

>>62395895
That should keep you busy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJc2wiYj4-o

>>62395895
Johnny Rebel

>>62395986
>little more sub bass,
planars do just fine when you have a good seal and subbass boost them

>>62395895
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSqYgIHgqFI

any slightly warmer alternatives to the Etymotics HF5 for a similar or cheaper price?

>>62396338
I don't really want to eq them if I dont have to. never been a big fan of that.

>>62396375
I watched that vid not long ago. That's fucking weird. I completed number 2 and 3 on my retro pie a few weeks ago for the first time ever. I only ever played the first as a kid for some reason. They're some of the best games ever.

>>62395895
Idk, soundgardens stuff?

>>62396442
t.plebeian
All headphones can benefit from proper EQ. To not EQ is to be lazy and ignorant.

>>62396442
literally just preamp by -5db, add +5db 60hz, try it

>>62396442
>>62396610
here, boost this: https://soundcloud.com/galimatias/galimatias-ocean-floor-kisses

>>62396558
Just tried them, didn't like them at all. I'm not really a rock/metal guy but I like some stuff. I like a couple of ozzy songs and not much else. "close my eyes forever" is one of them, mostly for ozzy's part. Rock is like anime to me. Thee's some great struf but 95% of it is cheesy as fuck.

>>62396683
Idk do you like synth pop?

Holy ghost!
Telepathe
School of seven bells
Chvrches

Alt-metal?

Primus

>>62396824
I now like Clearest blue by Chvrches. I know you don't like the 600 but that song sounds great with them

>Ask this shit ass general which DAC will get rid of noise on my monitors
>You manlet idiots say literally anyone on Amazon including cheap $20 ones
>I buy a cheap $20 one
>Same result as onboard audio

Thanks

Is the installgentoo website a thing like exhentai? It's always down when I try to get on it

>>62396988
This is the headphone general. You may have missed that.

>>62396988
It's your monitors then, probably the amplifiers in them. Literally that's the only plausible explanation.

>>62396970
No worries enjoy. Also check out ice choir and m83

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Are these are bad as people make them out to be? To me they seem to have been overshadowed by the 800s and since the 600s is so popular nobody cares about the 700s. Their price is OK and not as outlandish as the 800s (not to mention the 800 S).

The frequency response seems to be pretty good. Similar to the 800s but perhaps less refined and more treble happy. A good eq could make wonders though.

>>62396988
the jds lab's dac is an affordable dac that has a very low noise floor, and it's 32 bit but who gives a fuck about that

>>62397111
>A good eq could make wonders though.
it has resonance which can't really be fixed with eq, you need to stitch on some new pads

>>62396988
The only thing that cause really loud noise are the amplifiers.

>>62397128
Doesn't the regular 800 suffer from that too?

Are those cheap adhesive hanger things on ebay actually functional?

>>62397146
yes but the hd700 it is caused by the reflections off the inner side of the padding, the hd800 has a reflection near the driver which is fixed with the super dupont mod that cancels out the resonance

>>62397046
>>62397065
>>62397115
>>62397130
It turns out that the DAC I bought literally lied in the description and answered questions section about the functionality that I required with my setup. I found this through Google which lead me to a thread of someone suffering something similar.

I apologize to this kind general for my hurtful words that were made out of uneducated haste.

>>62397065
Will do, thanks.

>>62396092
Soccer is a great EP. Check out Float down the Liffey, more emo, but still very good.

>>62397197
No need to apologize friend.

>>62396988
Have you tried to isolate the problem? Run the monitors as the only thing plugged in to your wall, use a cell phone or something battery powered as your audio source and keep adding components until the noise starts.

>>62397039
Answer please

>>62397317
>like exhentai
kek
No, it's probably just down a lot.

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>>62394770

>>62397384
t. draykawnza

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>>62395895
This whole single is really good:
https://nyaa.si/view/958698

>>62397397
The x2's are bloaty as fuck but you really are dedicated aren't you? I'm a 600 owner too, but you need to chill out m8. It's the handful like you that are ruining this place.

>>62397532
I'm not the guy who usually calls out the niggerbass but it's a thankless job that has to be done.

>>62397326
Gay

>>62397411
Thanks but it doesn't work with vlc or foobar.

>>62397574
Doesn't have to be done. You aren't as bad as the anti 600 guys but you're not far off spouting that shit.

>>62397633
I don't have any vested interest in pro or anti 600 shitposting. But niggerbass has to be called out for what it is. Sorry if you don't like it, le-a.

>>62397649
>But niggerbass has to be called out for what it is
excellence

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>>62397597
What do you mean it doesn't work with vlc or foobar?
It works for me.

>>62394025

senshills btfo again

Can any headphone have the same spaciousness and awesome mids as a stereo speaker set up? I was thinking about trying the nad hp50 because I really love the way speakers sound but can't use them.

>>62397733
no but you use can use a crossfeed like bs2b and get a wide headphone

>>62397649
I don't care for nigger bass. You're just standing out as an individual, on an anonymous forum that's all.

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>>62397597
Are you trying to play a .torrent in foobar?

>>62397763
Like I said, I'm not the dude who usually does it. You can believe what you want though.

>>62397707
It's not working for me, for some reason.

>>62397753
This looks interesting. Do I need to configure it or do I just install it in foobar2k and I'm good?

>>62397765
No, don't be silly. The torrent didn't work for some reason.

>>62397111
It's comfortable. Probably more than the HD800. I can't think of anything else.
>frequency response seems to be pretty good
Eh.
Fit usually works well, so you can EQ. But everything can be equalized.

>>62397128
>it has resonance which can't really be fixed with eq
EQ does correct that. That is actually what EQ is designed to do.
>super dupont mod
Doesn't eliminate the resonance.

>>62397780
What are you even trying to play with foobar? A flac?

what do you think of this Audio-Technica ATH-M30x

>>62397798
yeah that's fine. default value is (700hz,4.5db), C.Moy setting is (700hz,6.0db), "J.Meier" setting is (650,9.5).

you might be able to use it with pulseapo or w/e it's called and use it as a system wide eq, I don't use windows

>>62397844
>>62397798
>pulseapo
I meant equalizer apo

>>62397844
> C.Moy and J.Meier
Which one is better?

>>62397924
try cmoy, they are just presets so they sound like some hardware crossfeeds, it depends on what you like to try all of them

>>62397753
>>62397798
Be aware that BS2B changes frequency response. Pic related is its effect on FR at default settings. It's easy to generate correction filters for this using the methods described by https://www.head-fi.org/threads/how-to-automatically-eq-your-headphones-to-online-measurements-a-step-by-step-guide.854773/ as you just need to digitize this image, load it as a frequency response in Room EQ Wizard and automatically generate correction filters for it. Also, to test the effect on frequency response of non-default settings of bs2b, use VST Plugin Analyzer, found at http://www.pcjv.de/applications/measurement-programs/ on the VST version of bs2b.
Or, you can simply use the crossfeed (it's the dropbox link) at http://superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/advanced-crossfeed-dsp.762/ which doesn't alter frequency response.

>>62397753
Crossfeed will make the image narrower, not wider, but when done correctly can make the headphones sound more like near-field monitors at a 60 degree angle, which is an ideal speaker setup. Crossfeed is great for hard-panned recordings (the recent Beatles stereo remasters come to mind) and can reduce listening fatigue.

>>62397980
that's why I said get wide headphones, I never said it makes it sound wider

>>62397980
Also, crossfeed simply sounds more natural than headphones without crossfeed. We're used to natural crossfeed when listening to real life sounds or speakers so audio sounds unnatural without it.
>>62398006
Oh.
>you use can use a crossfeed like bs2b and get a wide headphone
This can be read two different ways. I picked the wrong one.

>>62397733
>any headphone have the same spaciousness
Without specialized recordings or signal processing, not possible. You would have to try and forcibly externalize the sound, it wouldn't come naturally.
>and awesome mids
Equalization. Do it.
A few headphone manage well enough stock.
>nad hp50
Room feel? That was about tonality, not so much the spatiality.
>crossfeed
Personally had lackluster results with prior attempts. Some tweaking required.
A common drawback is that it usually messes with tone color, requiring you to equalize the crossfeed. Astralstorm at Changstar/SBAF was working on a crossfeed DSP that didn't require equalization.

>>62397948
>BS2B changes frequency response
As a note, crossfeed by definition alters the frequency response. That would be nonsensical otherwise.
What it doesn't have to do is touch the magnitude.

>>62398020
>>62397980
crossfeed sounds like shit and is for brainlets who lack the mental horsepower to process two simultaneous audio signals, e.g. speakercucks

>>62398037
christ this is so dumb I can't tell if it's bait or not

>>62398063
>speakercuck
>dumb
pick two, and exactly two

>>62398063
>it says cucks
It's bait.

>>62398081
never underestimate the stupidity of /g/

>>62398029
>Astralstorm at Changstar/SBAF was working on a crossfeed DSP that didn't require equalization.
The version linked to above works exactly as so. FR is flat as a loli when tested in VST Plugin Analyzer.

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>Budget
$100, $150 maybe
>Location
USA
>Source
android phone and work laptop
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
more comfort the better
>Past headphones
use hd598s regularly on my desktop, need buds for on the go and at the office

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>>62398037
>speakercucks
Speakers will always be better memeboi, a good set of speakers in a good room will rekt any headphone.

>>62398081
t. triggered tumblrwhale
>>62398101
>speakerbrainlet unable to process audio signals
>s-speakers are better because they mud up the sound so it's simply for my double digit IQ to process so they're b-better

>when you get tired of people calling your equipment nobass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LDoxSoMiEI

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Is the HD 579 the best open back headphone for its price?

is anything wireless good yet?

Should I take my HD6XX or HD800S on my trip to Japan?

>>62398114
>he will never experience a 3 dimensional stereo image with chest slapping, body shaking bass, full bodied mids and the delicate, perfectly positioned treble of a pair of stereo speakers.

t. headphonelet who can't get speakers because he can't disturb mommy and daddy upstairs.

I know it's the wrong general but just wanted to give a little comparison of LSR305 and Vanatoo T0 for anyone curious.

After 3 weeks I prefer the LSR305. Maybe it's bright or maybe the Vanatoo is polite I don't know since no one respectable has actually talked the FR of the Vanatoo. The Vanatoo seems bass boosted in comparison and in too many songs it overpowers the vocals. The LSR305 has ground loop and amp hiss though. It's not terrible but it's minor issue still.

I think the Vanatoo are designed too much for music listening awhile the LSR seems good for audio in general.

I'm going to do a final test tomorrow before I pack the Vanatoo up though. Even if I'm biased towards the LSR they both sound close enough in quality that there is no point of having both.

>>62398683
>ooga booga turn up duh bayzzzzzz I wanna feel duuh beetz
Is there anything more repulsive than a retarded speakerbrainletnigger?

>>62398860
>wwaahhhh bass is bad and black people scare me WAAAAHHHH

is there anything more autistic than a headphonebabyearedsperglord?

>>62398925
>speakercuck getting progressively more butthurt with every post
Kek. Brainlet, dicklet, speakercuck. These go hand in hand.

>>62398939
>I can't afford nice speakers or the space to use them because I'm a NEET
>I-I'll just call him mad haha get memed!

Kek. Autism, unemployment, headphone cuck. These go hand in hand.

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>>62398985
Wow original! The eternally butthurt speakerbrainlet lacks the mental horsepower that I, a headphonebrainiac, use to come up with my posts which can only be described as works of art. Speakercucks grovel in the darkness never knowing the light that a true headphonebrainiac like myself can witness.

>>62399045
pic + timestamp of headphones

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>>62399349
Pic+timestamp of brain, brainlet

>>62399385
I don't own speakers though, pic + timestamp of your setup

>>62399403
Clearly you don't own a brain either.

>>62399403
He's poor, probably a pair of Hyperx Cloud and motherboard audio, he can't have speakers because he still lives with his parents.

>>62399385
>translated: I don't own any headphones

nothing new here. moving on

>>62399434
why is that? pic + timestamp. if you can't pic + timestamp then there is no reason for people to even read your posts anymore

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>>62399453
>>62399435
>>62399456

@62399466
You don't deserve my (You)s poorfag.

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Eternally mad speakerbrainlets have no arguments so they resort to pedantry and demanding timestamps because they know my time is worth far more than theirs. I listen to two songs simultaneously, with each ear processing information independently. Speakercucks simply lack the requisite brainpower to even hope to accomplish this. Perhaps one day you may aspire to become like me but it seems as if that will not happen with the attitudes towards authority you speakercucks have demonstrated here today. Rest assured that I will be here to intellectually maim and destroy your fragile brainlet egos for a long time to come.

Pic related, your average speakerbrainlet after I crush his puny intellect.

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@62399676
I know you want some (You)s but with those weak baits you'll not get any.

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tell me what I want /hpg/

>Budget
probably 100-150
less is fine too
>Location
USA
>Source
PC
>Type
Full-sized, closed back
>Comfort level
More important to me than sound quality. I barely even know what sound quality is, pls no bully.

I'm currently wearing a Logitech G35 headset (with a buit-in mic too). I like how it fits and find it comfortable but I dislike how fast they fall apart. This is the second one I've owned in only a few years and it's already damaged enough that I want a replacement. I've heard that ""gaming headsets"" are just a meme and I should buy real headphones + a separate mic instead, but I don't really know what to go for.
I want something that's comfortable enough that I can wear it for most of the day while sitting at my desktop PC, being a useless neet, and wasting my time on anime and/or video games. Ideally something that isn't made of cheap plastic that starts cracking and breaking apart in only 1-2 years.
I'd read the wiki page first but it's currently dead.

>>62394275
It's too warm, but still better than most IEMs out there. Can't compete with the Etys.
>>62395176
I prefer the HF5 because the treble response isn't peaky but in terms of absolute accuracy the MK5 is better. The ER4SR is still hands down better than both.
>>62395426
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/819110-REG/Sennheiser_523877_Coiled_Cable_for_HD25.html
Works on the HD600.
>>62396407
The aforementioned Apple IEMs. Those are dual driver BA I believe. A lot of single BA drivers are tuned to be warmer than the HF5 like Sony XBA-1. I can't remember much about IEMs at the moment. Meelectronics has a good single BA that's cheap with a braided cable that has low microphonics. I was fond of that particular model.

>>62399836
>too warm
>can't compare to the Etys
So, are you telling me that the ADDIEMs fixes the coldness of the Etys while everything else stays roughly the same? Seems to me like they beat the Etys at their own game.
No, but seriously though, I really feel the Etys lack bass, only a little bit though. What would you say I would regret if I sold my Etymotic HF5 to buy the Apple IEMs?

>The ER4SR is still hands down better than both.
What would you say is the IEM with the flattest frequency response?

>>62399886
I don't think the Ety is cold or has any real flaws once inserted correctly, especially the HF5 which is darker (less upper mids and treble) compared to the more accurate models (MK5/ER4SR). And no it doesn't lack bass, it is adequate, in fact based on the data it's more bass relative to the treble and mids.

If you think the HF5 is cold you'd obviously prefer the Apple IEMs. I've been out of the IEM game for so long, I don't even know if they're still in production. I also saw a while back there is a knock off of it that's almost identical in sound quality.

The IEM with the flattest frequency response is the Etymotic ER4B and it has a lot more upper mids and treble compared to the HF5, you clearly wouldn't enjoy that.

>>62399952
I say it lacks bass because I'm listening to bass heavy music with a proper seal and I have to make an extra effort to pick them up. This happened a lot with the bass from Charles Mingus tracks, or the bass from some Deep House tracks.

>If you think the HF5 is cold you'd obviously prefer the Apple IEMs
That's good to hear. What would you say I would miss from the HF5 if I switch to the Apple ones?

>I don't even know if they're still in production.
They are still being sold for 80 USD. You could get an identical copy of them for 30 USD, but those were sold out (Earmax ER600).

>The IEM with the flattest frequency response is the Etymotic ER4B
Thanks!

>>62400020
Well most balanced armature IEMs have a flat bass response as opposed to dynamic driver IEMs where the bass tends to peak in certain areas. This may affect the perception of bass response.

Going from the HF5 to the Apple IEMs, you'd just hear more bass and less upper mids and treble, that's literally it. It's just a moderate change in the tonality. Not drastic. It's simply how the frequecy response balance of both IEMs are different.

I think you'd enjoy the Apple IEMs.

And you were right the Earmax ER600 was the IEM I was referring to.

https://clarityfidelity.blogspot.com/2016/01/earmax-er600-iem.html

>>62400129
Thanks!
Any idea on how detail and soundstage compare between the two?

>>62400154
I don't buy into the soundstage and detail memes, but I'll answer your question anyway.

You'll get less detail on the Apple IEMs since it's less flatter but you'll get more soundstage since it will be perceived as further sounding due to less upper midrange response.

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are ANY blue tooth earbuds decent?

>>62400385
The $13 AliExpress ones after EQ are.

I just listened to some Tangerine Dream on my dad's set of speakers and it completely blew me away. Like holy shit where has this been all my life. I have seen the light, headphones are an inferior listening experience.

>>62400578
>dad's set of speakers
I'm getting some magnepans

>>62400673
I luvs me some maggies. What model?

>>62400578
t. Speakercuck niggerbass lover

>>62400775
I'm not sure, they are in storage

>>62400783
gotchya, just curious.

If they rattle which happens after being stored for long periods of time, make sure you reglue the stator onto the mylar panels. It's not very hard whatsoever and it makes a huge difference.

http://www.integracoustics.com/MUG/MUG/tweaks/peter_gunn/repair.html

>>62400780
>magnepans
>niggerbass

pretty much the complete opposite. Best transient response among loudspeakers along with dipole radiation pattern and a cut-off around 40hz.

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Wow these beyerdynamics sure are good headphones

>>62400812
cool, I'll save this thanks

>>62400825
There is no functional difference between being a niggerbass lover and being a speakercuck.

>>62400842
t. headphone let with limited mental functions and fundamental misunderstanding of technologies beyond comprehension (which is most technology in general)

>>62400842
pic + timestamp of your setup

>>62394770
Anything with more stage (aka anything)

>>62400860
>>62400867
Incredibly mad speakercucks. Speakers do nothing better than headphones except "muh feels". Also one is a turbopoor tripcunt with an awfully treated room, guaranteed his speakers sound like shit.

>>62400842
>speakercuck.
It's ok anon, when you move out of your parent's basement you'll be able to get a nice set of speakers, just study hard and get a good job.

>>62400834
Well no shit, the pads are old as fuck and really dirty. Change them, dumbfuck.

>>62400888
:^] one day you'll move out any get a nice set of speakers anon. Then, you'll be able to share music with your friends (if you get any/have any after moving out) instead of just sitting alone in the corner of your room acting like you're enjoying listening to music.

>>62398485
Yes.

>>62400888
>turbopoor
>house
>car
>works for a company that makes 6 figure endgame loudspeakers
>poor

Oh btw, bought a really nice new hon mesh chair, just to fuck your tight little poor boipussy you sperg :^]

>>62400902
>>62400980
>>62401020

Mmmm, speakercuck tears. Their inferior minds are unable to process how someone could ever notice the objective failure of speakers. Actually they're probably all the same absolutely assblasted person LOL

>>62401032
Post your "superior" headphone setup then.

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>>62401032
>newflash: it's not

Wow! The fucktarded autistic troll is wrong?!?! What a surprise!

>>62401020
>Oh btw, bought a really nice new hon mesh chair, just to fuck your tight little poor boipussy you sperg
Goddammit, i came here to relax and listen to music, now instead i'm fantasizing about being dominated in a mesh chair...

>>62401078
>yotsuba

>>62401097
post programming socks

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>the HD600 were first introduced in 1994 as the HD580
>it is 23 years later
>they are still the best full-sized headphones in the world at any price
Why?

>>62401119
Not that kind of fag... yet...

>>62401121
too bright
not enough bass

>>62401050
>>62401078
Hahahaha, the incredible amount of butthurt speakercucks generate could power a city. No pic btw ;) stay mad

>>62401151
>>62401121
hd600, the headphone that somehow manages to have both the sennheiser veil AND treble "sparkle". A world class headphone

>>62401151
t.Delmetrice

>>62401121
hd650 is better

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>>62401223
"No."

>>62401245
shit tier "argument"

>>62394088
It has to do with the fatigue strength of plastic you moron. Plastic, put under even miniscule stresses will ALWAYS fail eventually.

>>62401245
>neutral is best
>what_is_the_circle_of_confusion.flac

>>62401165
>No pic btw ;) stay mad
Stay poor ;)

>>62401283
>put under even miniscule stresses will ALWAYS fail eventually.
kind of like my penis and fat chicks

>>62401121
List of headphones better than the HD600s:
HD800S
HD800
HE 1
HE1000 V2
SUSVARA
SHANGRI-LA
Edition X V2
SR-L700
SR-007MK2
SR-009
Utopia
Elear
LCD-X
MDR-Z1R
AB-1266
C FLOW

Maybe when you get a real job you'll be able to get out of the mid-fi hell kid.

>>62401315
No need to be upset, speakercuck.

>>62401294
>neutral is best
It is, objectively, factually and literally.

>>62401405
boring

>>62401405
>it is the best
>because reasons
>source: my ass

>>62401399
>Doesn't have a good set of speakers because he still lives with his parents.
>Calls others "cuck"

>>62401454
Hahaha! Are you going to ask for a timestamp of my parents next, speakercuck?

I just got my HD800S. You guys are not memeing when you said that these are seriously good.

>>62401595
Whatever headphonecuck.

>>62401632
are you kidding? everyone here shits on them for not being the hd600

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>>62401642
>comes to /hpg/
>headphonecuck
Ur the cuck brah

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>>62401632
No. Fucking. Upper. Mids.

>>62401660
You're a cuck because you can't get anything better like a pair of speakers.
Stay cucked.

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Are AKG К404 okay for their cheap ass price or should I add a bit for AKG K450?

>>62401690
But headphones are better for big brained individuals like myself, brainlet.

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>>62401698
>on-ear headphones

>>62401632
Cool, post some pics if you can.
>>62401657
>everyone
speak for yourself, many of us actually have experience with more than 2 good headphones.

>>62401704
>big brained
>lives with his parents

>>62401738
>over-ear headphones outdoors
bruh

>>62401595
>Are you going to ask for a timestamp of my parents next, speakercuck?
well, you haven't provided a timestamp of your headphones yet, so no

>>62401767
>not using IEMs outdoors
bruh

just spent 40 shekels on new earpads since my old ones were falling apart, and frankly, smelled really weird. how badly did i get jewed?

>>62401801
they hurt my ears
nice derail btw

>>62401832
>not using the Gods of comfort, HJE120, with EQ to make them neutral

>>62401844
and this is why /g/ is useless as fuck

what's the next headphones to upgrade from xpt100? has to be closed and comfortable like it.

>>62401866
Beyerdynamic Custom Studio for bassy, Beyerdynamic DT250 80 ohm for neutral.

>>62401763
>brainlet fantasies
>>62401790
But my parents obviously don't exist because I haven't time stamped them. What now, speakercuck?

>>62401698
I had the K414, which is the same but closed-back, if i recall correctly it sounds pretty warm and rather muddy, but not bad for the price.
It's very portable, easy to fold and store, new pads are very cheap and easy to find. I did found it uncomfortable after an hour or two.
Eventually i got the v-moda m80 as an upgrade and sold the k414 to a friend, he doesn't care so much and seems happy with it.

>>62401891
>DT250
i always found weird how people here love to bash beyerdynamic for not being neutral yet ignore the DT250.

anyone notice how that wireless jew is gone but the brainlet meme guy is here?

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>>62402286
No I'm still here. If you're talking about the butthurt bluetoothfag, he probably got BTFO by me one too many times.

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I've been using these for the last 10 years with foam pads. Try to give me a reason why I should switch?

>>62403019
why are you asking people to convince you?

>>62403019
Cd900st is more anime and sounds just as bad

>>62403019
>foam pads
Have you tried other pads? I really like how the Auray Sheep Skin pads feel.
about getting new headphones, i don't know, if you are satisfied don't see why you should.
Maybe go to some store and test some other good models to see how you like it? I still have and enjoy my v6 but preffer my DT880 now, all big three are good in one way or another imho, tested a whole bunch of others, it's fun to hear what else is out there.

>>62400842
Magneplanar actually struggle with bass when it comes to it's amount and kick.

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Anyone have experience with Sennheiser RS 195?
I want to go wireless, but i'm not sure if it's worth the mark up.

pic related, bellies are technology

>Budget
£150 (about $200)
>Location
UK
>Source
Will probably buy FiiO E10K
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Would prefer them to be more comfortable but not too important
>Sound signature
Neutral perhaps a bit more bass
>Past headphones
Superlux HD688B

Been thinking about either getting the Philips SHP9500 or the AKG K702 but requesting advice here anyway to see if there are any other good options.

thanks

my current headphones are 52 oms and have perfectly fine volume, the ones im thinking of buying are 62, how much quieter would it be?

>>62404607
What headphones do you have now and what are you buying next? Ohms don't tell the whole story.

>>62404651
now i have the superlux hd688b and im thinking of buying the AKG k702

>>62404684
Mid-Fi open AKG's like power want quite a bit of it. You'll want at least a MDA or Magni2.

>>62404854
could i run the philips shp9500 off motherboard audio? (32 ohms)

>>62404854
>>62404861
or i could get the FiiO E11k Kilimanjaro 2 to run it off??

>>62404886
e10k actually

>>62404861
>>62404886
SHP9500 would run fine on onboard or a phone. They're pretty sensitive.

reasons not to get hifiman he400s?

>>62405088
proprietary cable

Philips SHP9500 and FiiO E10K with bass boost on.
Good idea?

Anyone here know the original wiring connection of the Superlux HD681b?

opened mine and found it fucked up. I'm trying to solder them together but I only have a vague idea which wires go which.

>>62401681
mids are overrated as fuck

>>62405205
Better to just EQ the bass using EQAPO

If you don't have the E10K yet i recommen the Fulla 2 instead

>>62405277
Cancel and just get an HD579.
Spending money on amps that you could spend on headphones -_-
Also, that's too high a price for SHP9500.

>>62406395
>-_-

opinion discarded.

>>62406693
What's wrong with -_-?

-_-

>>62405817
nvm fixed it

Under $700

USA

PC

Full sized

Don't care
Preferably comfy but not a necessity

Don't care

Used Astro A40 with Mixamp for 7 years. Got gifted a Sennhesier 373D and they're very comfortable, but surround sound dogshit and USB only, can't use with my amp.
Bought another Astro A40 pair but they're awfully made now compared to 7 years ago, made smaller, mixamp is worse etc.
For some reason everything sounds like shit unless I play it via my 2010 S/PDIF mixamp, even though it's outdated. The newer models suck so I'll probably continue to use my mixamp until I buy a proper amp.
Also have a Create Soundcard I could use to boost the headset.

Thinking of HD600 because they're more affordable than HD800 and don't really need an amp like it does, can anyone confirm?
A friend recommended me Bose QuietComfort 35 which are around the same price range, but I don't care for wireless.

>inb4 GAYming headsets

>>62406946
At that price, consider used audeze lcd-2s or hifiman he-560

>>62406946
>HD600
Comfortable. Sounds good without EQ. Doesn't need an amp but benefits from one, particularly if you listen to loud volumes.
>HD800
Far more expensive. Needs EQ. Needs an amp. Said to be more comfortable than HD600.

>>62407690
>Said to be more comfortable
Haven't you actually tested It?

>>62408185
I chose my words carefully because no, I haven't had the pleasure of trying HD800.
I do, however, own HD600, which I'm wearing right now, attached to a schiit uber stack.

>>62407690
HD800 is just slightly less sensitive than the 600. You either need an amp for both, or an amp for neither.

>>62408312
Hmm, looked into it briefly and they're very close in power requirements vs SPL, with HD800 needing only a little more power.
Personally, I'd suggest an amp for both. While the HD600 sounds good plugged anywhere I've tried it with, it does sound noticeably better with an amp and, due to low sensitivity, will only reach loud volumes with the extra gain amps do provide.

>>62408378
I own the 600 as well, with a -5dB preamp from EQ to flatten the bass, an amplifier is absolutely necessary.

>>62406693
He's right about both things

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Rate my purchase/life. Also what portable amp do you recommend for the memephones?

morning faggots

>>62408925
>Also what portable amp
black label is end game

>>62408925
Stop drinking soda and clean up your desk

>>62406946
Too vague. General options
Closed backed MrSpeakers Aeon and Shure SRH1540.
Open backed HE560, LCD2, HD800, Stax 3100 combo, and others.
>don't really need an amp like it does
Parts of the HD800 are more sensitive. It is about the same, maybe even slightly less.

>>62402267
Because DT250 is actually the closest closed headphone to neutral in its price range. It has a small Beyer treble spike instead of a shitty retard fuckhuge one. DT770/880/990 are terrible headphones. DT250 are not.

>>62404393
HD579

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>>62405088
Hifiman build quality and customer service.
*Gluing intensifies*

I've got a pair of Audio Technica ATH-AD900X headphones with a fault cable/jack. Is it worth it to take it someplace locally and get a new cord put on ? I'm not sure what kind of lifespan to expect on headphones. I've had these atm for 2 years and really see no need for an upgrade if I can fix them and they'll still work well for another year or two.

>>62409372
>leather box
>floating metal strut leather headband
>arrived in 5 days
>excellent build quality
>implying glue isn't used in the hd600s
>implying the headband on the hd600s isn't made of shit tier plastic with poor durability

>>62409661
>butthurt speakercuck gets mad when his shit headphones are called out
L O L

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>>62409661
>>leather box
>>arrived in 5 days
>>excellent build

you know a headphone has terrible build when one talks about a shitty leather box and shipping speed instead of the actual headphones

>>62409781
actually, you know a headphone has terrible build quality when after 20 years it still does this regularly under normal stress conditions >>62394025

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>>62409822
t. Snap enthusiast

>>62394025
>>62409982
How does this even happen? I have a pair of 40€ creative headphones that i've owned since 2008 and they're intact

>>62410026
Answer: they're shitposting images and anyone who takes them seriously is seriously retarded

>>62404393
HD579. Also, don't bother with e10k, not worth spending a cent on. Save up for a Fulla 2, if you want an entry point amp that doesn't suck.

>>62394003
>Budget
150 euro
>Location
latvia
>Source
both a phone and a PC, would strongly prefer wireless.
>Type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
doesnt matter
>Comfort level
ready to sacrifice a little
>Sound signature
mid centric
Are there any good wireless headphones.
I am ready for heavy compromises to get wireless.

>>62410026
it's almost like if you have shitty build quality then some headphones will break, while others will not

>>62410929
> 40€ creative headphones
> good built quality

Literalyl the definition of shit headphone build

>>62410948
I misread your comment, otherwise I wouldn't have been so snarky

im looking for a pair of wireless headphones for gaming on PC in the region of £120.

Anything stand out come to mind lads?

>>62410948
>creative
>ever

>>62411562
it was a gift

>>62411581
I'd gift that to somebody if I hated them.

>>62411581
should have kept the receipt

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>>62410992
$13 for theeeeese

>>62411636
micropenis

Need a set of over the ears closed headphones for an overseas trip by the end of this month. Need them to be comfy and durable. Budget is around 100$ and i live in anchorage. Recommendations?

>>62411775
>closed headphones
>Budget is around 100$
iems have better price to performance ratio at that price range vs closed headphones

Why would people buy expensive USB cable? USB protocol have CRC5/CRC16 checks that making sure error packet due to transmitting over cable would be dropped and retransmitted, thus there is no differences between cables if there is no dropped packet.

>>62412335
because they look nice?

>>62412444
It's an aesthetic USB cable. I'll show you later.

>>62412444
Oops, that could be possible (≧▽≦)

>>62412498 new thread

>>62411775
https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/sennheiser-hd-471-affordable-sealed-over-ear-headphones

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>>62412476
>>62412482
this usb cable looks likes pretty cool imp. but no way in hell would i pay 30+ bucks for it

>>62412335
USB audio is transferred in isochronous mode which has no error recovery

[SPOILER]test[/SPOILER]

>>62412579
No retransmission but still have packet level CRC checks
Would expensive cables guarantee no dropped packet in isochronous mode?

>>62412688
what does the CRC check matter if there is no function to resend the packets?

>>62412721
So you can check if the firmware support statistics for dropped packet due to CRC error

>>62412721
>what does the CRC check matter
Error correction. That's the key difference between mere checksums and CRC.
>if there is no function to resend the packets?
Audio is realtime. If the data is not there on time, it'll either replay existing data or cut. That's going to be hearable.
Adding some latency would leave margin for some resends. But it'd eventually catch up given enough errors, and cut or loop.
Transmitting at a higher bandwidth than needed could fix that, but it'd make more sense to transmit at a slower but more reliable speed.
Ultimately, your bus would have to be very constrained or plainly suck for it not to be capable of reliably transmitting mere audio.

>>62397411
can someone upload it on smega? pooranon cant use torrent