/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Hurd 1.0 soon

Installed tlp on my laptop to fix shutdown/suspend issues. Everything works fine. Remove charger and it hangs. Try to start it up on battery and it doesn't boot. I removed tlp and it worked. Why?

Install GNU/Communism!

>>62393947
redpill me on containers vs VMs

Can someone give me a nice terminal color scheme for a white background? I'm using urxvt if you want to post the config lines

Is modesetting something that should be paid attention to?

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>>62394464
not quite white background, but solarized light is pretty nice

(pic related isn't my screenshot)

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>>62394509
thanks but I'm doing a mac-like kde rice so it should be just white

>>62394089
/fght/ when?

>>62393947
I am trying to port my HTML bookmarks to XBEL, found script and I am struggling to make it work. What do I need to make this script work https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00830/firefox2elinks.pl

Do I need firefox installed?

Manjaro breaks every time I try non-generic drivers for my 1070 and I don't want to live with screen tearing

>>62394556
There is also tomorrow-day, which might be nice.

I like what you've got going on with KDE.

>>62394777
I'll look into that, thanks

>>62394676
To run the script, simply need to run

perl /location/to/script.pl

, assuming you have perl installed.

If your HTML bookmarks were generated by Firefox, then it should work. It doesn't require that Firefox be currently on your computer.

>>62394509
how do I make my system look like this? What is the music player, and the desktop environment?

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Should i install "standard system utilities" during Ubuntu minimal net install? Pic related.

>>62395221
probably yes.
On 16.04 this is everything that was installed with it:

manpages
dnsutils
bsdmainutils
psmisc
python3-gdbm
ufw
dosfstools
ed
telnet
powermgmt-base
ntfs-3g
ubuntu-release-upgrader-core
iputils-tracepath
python3-update-manager
groff-base
python3-distupgrade
bind9-host
mtr-tiny
bash-completion
mlocate
tcpdump
geoip-database
install-info
irqbalance
language-selector-common
friendly-recovery
command-not-found
info
hdparm
man-db
lshw
update-manager-core
apt-transport-https
accountsservice
command-not-found-data
python3-commandnotfound
time
ltrace
parted
popularity-contest
strace
ftp
ubuntu-standard
lsof

>>62394509
Solarized is a cancer made to out autistic weeaboo ricers with no aesthetic taste

Should I go with Debian or Arch if I want to learn more about technology while also having a """secure""" system? I'm tired of my ISP logging everything I do and every page I look at. I feel like Arch will force me to learn more things than Debian would in that regard. I want to evolve beyond being a brainlet.

>>62395951
The basic Arch installation isn't security-oriented. To the degree that it is, it's only about firewalls, encryption, and some other things, all of which are optional as hell. I doubt Debian is much different in that regard.

It's always good to learn more about how Linux, the shell, and filesystems work, but you're not going to get out-of-the-box security from many distros except those fully focused on those issues.

is arch pronounced with a hard or soft ch?

Is there a way to get the KDE global menu to work with non-QT programs like LibreOffice, Firefox, Gimp etc?

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>>62396140
soft ch, like march

Old logos of Arch actually looked like arches.

>>62396246
Ok that's what I assumed

>>62394656
never because hurd will never be finished

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>Linux user for the first time
>Arch Linux
>Oh.. wow, I actually gotta install everything from the beginning of partitions, to packages, networks, etc;
Well, this was certainly a very welcoming and different first experience. I'm sure many would've recommended to go with a "more friendly" distribution but I guess I gotta learn one way or another, anyway.
At this point I managed to install everything from drivers, set up wifi, organizing folders, installing appropriate packages.. your basic daily needs that it actually feels very nice to use.

I do admit, every LITTLE problem that I came across made me open 3 more tabs on my browser just to research spending hours and find an answer to realize I needed /something else/ as well. Don't even get me started on learning to use these new applications I'm unfamiliar with. Everything is so by-the-keyboard unlike Windows. But, somehow I pulled through.

Now I realize a lot of apps I took for granted I had to actually find new ones with the proper settings I wanted. The wiki is an endless fountain of knowledge and very helpful to me.

I'm sure there's a lot more to know.

Is a 55 gigabyte solid state big enough for an arch install and to use it for school / computer science work?

>>62396673
If you don't use it for multimedia storage (movies, music, etc.), then that will be more than fine.

Wiki Archive:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170809021655/https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Main_Page

>>62394870
Couldn't make it work, says everything is done but it does nothing.

>>62396673
Even if you use lib32 you wont use more then 5
-15gb for system drive only

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Never used linux before, about to install arch because of the amount of people who jerk it off here

How fucked am I?

>>62397264
Depends on your reading level

>>62397264
jump into traffic, everyone is doing it

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What does pic related mean? How do I allow access to my GPU? (this is output from lspci)

>>62397443
the program scraping them needs elevated rights

>>62397264
don't do it if you don't have a second computer you can pull up the install guide on, for when/if you have issues

>>62396420
Nice blog.

>>62397523
what is a smartphone for $5000 Alex

>>62397218
You'd always want to be sure that you have the input and output specified as it states:

## USAGE:
##    firefox2elinks.pl [--i=infile] [--o=outfile]

So you'd fully do

perl /path/to/firefox2elinks.pl --i=/path/to/yourfirefoxbookmarks.html --o=/path/to/elinksbookmarksname

why does i3 use the same directional keys as vi but moved to the right?

>>62397536
believe it or not, not everyone has a smartphone, with data

>>62397536
Is that the price of the smartphone?

>>62397264
Install GuixSD

>>62397443
sudo lspci

>>62397558
You dont need data, wifi retard, 99% of everyone on this board and in the world has a smartphone

>>62397564
Complex questions at the end of the game are worth more money
Smartphones are ~$100

Recommended GNU/Linux distros:

>Aloonix
https://aloonix.neocities.org/
>Apartheid Linux:
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t786671/
>Demi Lovato Linux
http://demilovato.sourceforge.net/
>HITLERLINUX
http://properfucked.net/hitlerlinux.html
>Hannah Montana Linux
http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/Site/Home.html
>Jewbuntu
http://www.jewbuntu.org/
>Justin Bieber Linux (also called Biebian):
http://biebian.sourceforge.net/
>Linux for Niggers
https://app.assembla.com/spaces/linuxforniggers/git/source
>Moebuntu
http://moebuntu.web.fc2.com/home_eng.htm
>RebeccaBlackOS
https://sourceforge.net/projects/rebeccablackos/
>Suicide Linux
https://qntm.org/suicide
>Ubuntu Christian Edition
http://ubuntuce.com/
>Ubuntu Furry Remix
http://www.ufurmix.org/
>Ubuntu Muslim Edition
http://www.junauza.com/2007/10/christians-view-on-ubuntu-muslim.html
>Ubuntu Satanic Edition
http://ubuntusatanic.org/

>>62397590
>retard
this is a friendly thread burh, no need to hurt my feelings

>>62397550
I don't know, but I have no interest in using JUST my keyboard with my hands on the home row all day.
I completely redid all i3 keybindings so I can efficiently navigate with either my left hand on the keyboard or my right hand on the mouse.

>>62397607
If no one challenged your retardness you would never learn you're being retarded

>>62397621
stop calling retards retarded retard

What's the benefit of having your operating system installed with /home /var /tmp and some others in separate partitions?

Does it provide some sort of security or ease of management?

>>62397661
>/var /tmp
These are legacy.Now a days /tmp is mounted to tmpfs in your ram
>/home
If anything happens to your system partition you can nuke it without having to touch your home partition.

whats the benefit of installing arch?

Whats a good defragger for Ubuntu?

>>62397720
>If anything happens to your system partition you can nuke it without having to touch your home partition.
Oh, so you don't need to backup everytime?

I'm guessing if I select the same option from the installer, it won't touch the /home directory/partition.

But what if I run out of space? Just expand or something?

>>62397743
Always updated with latest features without having to compile everything your self and manage deps.
Pacman
PKGBUILD
Arch WIki

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I'm about to install Debian on my Thinkpad. I plan on using mainly either DWM or AwesomeWM, but I'll need a DE for the few applications that give me troubles without one. I prefer it to be as lightweight as possible. Which should I use?

>>62397766
so no benefit at all?
>can have up2date packages on other distros
>can build packages on other distros
>can read the arch wiki while using other distros

>>62397743
None

>>62397764
/boot - 50mb
/ - 10gb
/home - rest

>installer
youd have to check the installer
>backup
no you should still do backups, but your system drive contents wont have /home with them, so you cna safely boot your favorite install medium and not have to hassle with your user data

Best antivirus for Linux?

>>62397743
You can tell everyone online that you did.

>>62397803
>>backup
>no you should still do backups

You always need backups

>>62397564
>Smartphones are ~$100
God, I wish that were true

Linux is the desktop version of Android.

>>62397816
Clamav

>>62397816
Common Sense 2017

>>62397803
Cool thanks Anon.

>>62397795
the main benefit to me is the aur, it gives me access to virtually everything that will run on linux without having to manually build it. the build is automated so all I gotta do is select software and authorize yaourt to build it and it does everything else for me

>>62397816
Free software.

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>>62397859

>>62397803
Will there be a time where /boot is more than 50mb?

>>62397869
>yaourt
Use pacaur, seriously use it, its way better and yaourt is know to cause issues with deps and other maintenance

>>62397795
>can have up2date packages on other distros
Other distros like Ubuntu tend to have very old, out of date packages in the repositories. While you technically can install newer packages, it requires you to go searching online for random PPAs, and then the system ends up being buggy and unstable because you have newer software with older dependencies. This is just a breeze on Arch.

>can build packages on other distros
Sure, but it's faster and easier on Arch.

>can read the arch wiki while using other distros
Sure, but the Arch wiki is most relevant to Arch. Other distros can do things differently and the Arch wiki won't always apply exactly.

>>62397881
If you use more then one kernel or you use uncompressed kernel images

>>62397883
I just use whichever pamac uses, cause I'm a lazy bastard, and even just a few commands is too much for me to be assed to do

>>62397661
No real benefit at all. Just have a separate /boot and then use one big partition for all the rest.

Is Steam still prone to breakage on Arch?

>>62397833
Moto E LTE

>>62397869
>official repo lacks packages
>community build repo to fix this issue
>insecure packages made by literally who are considered a benefit of arch linux

>meanwhile on ubuntu
>warning: third party packages can be insecure!
>meanwhile on arch
>AUR! AUR! AUR!

>>62397919
>implying aur isn't curated and anyone can just submit something and it aoutomagically goes into the aur with no vetting

>>62397919
You can read the PKGBUILD to see what is happenning, You cant do that with your precious ppa/rpm/deb, they are recompiled packages, no seeing how the package was made or where it was made from. PGBUILD list everything in the header of the pkgbuild file for inspection

>>62397943
Thats literally how it happens.

If Arch Linux is meant to be simple, why does it have systemd?

>>62397903
it's literally a single command
pacaur -S, just like pacman

>>62397853
don't compare it to that google-infested garbage

>>62397910
works fine for me
only problem I had was that it wouldn't open for a little while until I realized my package mirrors were out of date and I just had to update

>>62398076

ehhh...now I'm torn between debian sid and arch. I forget, does arch come with wifi drivers out of the box? It's a pain for me to access my router.

>>62398089
Check if your drivers are in community/extra or aur.
You just have ot install them when you chroot

>>62398132

I'm on a blazepad and it looks like everything is supported out of the box. Now I'm gonna sit here all night debating instead of getting rid of Ubuntu

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>>62398208
DO IT FAGGOT

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>>62398226

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Why woun't people leave systemd's issue tracker alone?

>>62398274
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5755

>>62398274
Because it is teh suxx

>>62398274
The github page of systemd is funny to read. Every few days there's a new drama. Reddit raids the issue tracker, poettering gets mad. Its sad and funny at the same time.

>>62398292
lol what is this software for again? An init system?
Makes total sense

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>windows laptop needs a good formatting
>install ubuntu-mate for the bants
>seems okay
>change the window manager to compiz via mate-tweak and it shits the bed and breaks my x session.
>restart after trying to to fix it in tty1 for a while
>have to manually add Google's DNS in order to have internet
>have to manually add Google's DNS in order to have internet... again... after reboot

This is only the beginning isn't it? How do I at least make it remember my DNS settings?

>>62398503
dhcp is what you need

>>62398503
Check if you're using resolvconf.You have to enter the dns in a different file that then generates to /etc/resolv

>>62398503
subtle.

Why don't more distros use OpenRC? What's wrong with it?

>>62398718
muh "just werks"

>>62398718
Nothing is wrong with it, they are just lazy

>>62397539
I've put everything in the same folder even, didn't work

>>62398718
because there are actually very few distros that aren't based on something else so a very small handfull of distros decide consciously about what sort of init system, etc.. to use. everyone else is just taking something else and just tweaking it

Why does Windows load folders with tons of images faster, and can I get that on linux?

>>62398875
I dont have an issue with gtk thumbnailer

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ok so how can i put 3GB+} of mp3 files on my iphone(7) from arch linux?
setting up httpd server on linux box is accessable but cannot add to library from there
same with ftp and 'Documents' app
gtkpod never recognized the phone

>>62398990
microSD card?

>>62399015
>
iphone has no such extravagance

Guys should I go full freetard and pick a distro from the fsf website?

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>>62399035
>iphone has no such extravagance
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAn

>>62398766
Are you sure the html file came from Firefox? I just tried the script with a bookmark html file from Chromium and it didn't work, but I then tried with a Firefox-generated html file and it did work.

>>62398990
owncloud + xampp

>>62394556
Nice. What Gnome Extensions did you use?

gotta dumbass question. just did a base install of antergos, my lan port is busted so I wanna add my de while I'm still in the antergos live environment, where x is hostname and y is username, what would be the command to chroot into the installed system?

>>62399253
>antergos
Stopped reading there.Paid
Dont use downstream distros

>>62399281
>muh upstream
didn't need your comment bruh

>>62399293
But you got it because you were stupid enough to use a downstream distro instead of typing 10 commands to get a base install of arch.

>>62399253
why antergos? just install arch its really not hard
anyway just mount your drives and chroot to them
mount / /mnt
mount /boot /mnt/boot
mount /fuckall /mnt/fuckall
chroot /mnt

>>62399313
>chroot /mnt
Wrong, you're also missing a lot of mount mounts such as /proc /dev/ etcetcetc

>>62399313
>arch
>systemd
no thanks

>>62399129
Just made another backup of the firefox bookmarks to be sure and still the same result

>>62399304
it's not a downstream issue fucktard

>>62399342
Sorry to be intrusive, but can you post the exact thing you're typing into the terminal?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f8FPnAsIJ4
>Linux Foundation runs macOS

/fglt/ will never recover.

>>62399359
We wont know because you're using a downstream distro that has its own idiosyncrasies

>>62399329
>wrong bla bla bla
i think i kind of hinted at mounting everything

>>62399388
it's not a distro issue numbnuts, fucking read my op, the issue is I'm too fucking retarded to properly use chroot

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What is the cutest distro?

>>62399386
>Linux Foundation
Not surprised tbqh.

>>62399418
Puppy

>>62399414
You're also too fucking retarded to type 10 commands in and get a base arch install running because you went with a downstream distro.

>>62397783
Use no WM

>>62399180
>gnome extensions
nigga I just said I'm using KDE

Install dfc if you haven't already.

>>62399431
it's not that easy and you should feel bad for saying it is

>>62399449
he already installed bbc

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>>62399386
>Linux Foundation
who?

>>62399459
It is literally that each, copy and paste in to your terminal until arch is installed.

Void is too hipster
Devuan is too hipster
Gentoo is too hard
Should i just stick with debian and accept systemd

>>62399534
Alpine?

>>62397893
>>can have up2date packages on other distros
>Other distros like Ubuntu tend to have very old, out of date packages in the repositories.
Usually for security reasons.
>While you technically can install newer packages, it requires you to go searching online for random PPAs, and then the system ends up being buggy and unstable because you have newer software with older dependencies. This is just a breeze on Arch.
So, Arch is better than Ubuntu? So is Debian.

>>can build packages on other distros
>Sure, but it's faster and easier on Arch.
Why do you need pkgbuild to fucking build a package?

>>can read the arch wiki while using other distros
>Sure, but the Arch wiki is most relevant to Arch. Other distros can do things differently and the Arch wiki won't always apply exactly.
The wiki usually expressly states so, and you can see where those differences exist (i.e. configs). If you're following the arch wiki step-by-step, you're doing it wrong.
I don't need "muh customization", and so I will not be using arch ;)

>>62398990
drag and drop ;)

>>62399597
>alpine on the desktop
lmao

>>62399386
never heard of her

>>62397816
Revoking your root access

>>62399386
>9:42
>pronounces ubuntu incorrectly

it's 2017 and people still don't know how to pronounce ubuntu even though it's right on its wikipedia page

it's 2017 and this still triggers me beyond belief

holy shit

IT'S OO-BOO-TOO, NOT OO-BUN-TOO

FUCK

>>62399642
It's very smooth

>>62399386
No surprise. The Linux Foundation is just a bunch of retards trying to make to milk the free software cow while recommending against GPL licenses and shilling proprietary software at linux.com. Who would have guesses that the director doesn't even run linux?

>>62399777
well, it's not the kernel developers nor the fsf, it's a foundation for promoting linux

>>62399777
>milk the free software cow
The Linux Foundation is a non-profit organisation.

>>62396280
Linux will never be finished either, unless you mean something else.

>>62399855
>the foundation collects annual fees worth at least 6,245,000 USD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation#Funding

>>62399386
Did this guy just talk 20 minutes about the same topic repeating himself over and over?

>>62394871
Music player is mpd+ncmpcpp, it's some sort of tiling window manager that's been riced a lot.

>>62394509
I'd probably use solarized on a color e-ink display, but not on LCD -- too bright

>>62395951
Try Void.

>>62397531
better than yours

>>62399964
I know. Where can I subscribe?

>>62397550
I think so they could use h for horizontal split. I moved it to c so I can use proper vim movement.

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>>62399999
Vim GET checked

>>62397743
>brag about being an Arch hipster
>spend countless hours of research figuring out how to configure and install simple things
>realize you've learned the equivalent of 'sudo apt-get install' but the hard way
>decide to give up on Arch when an update finally hoses the system
>install linux mint because you honestly can't be assed to reinstall arch from scratch again
>be amazed by how everything just werks
>wonder why you even bothered with Arch in the first place

>>62397783
You actually won't need a DE, not sure what you're expecting.

>>62397550
It's in the FAQ. It's about the home row (and j got that nipple). I remapped it to hjkl.

>>62400032
>mint
stopped reading here
post ruined

>>62400063
it was actually perfect

Is there a way to create an empty windows in i3 which takes up space?
For example, open one window and have a terminal, open an empty window and have a terminal on the left and on the right nothing?

>>62400093
Don't you if you're living under a rock, but Linux Mint is the worst distro around.

Why doesn't linux gracefully handle changing the username or localhost name?

I can't just simply change them, I have to change a bunch of files they get referenced in. This strikes me as incredibly bizarre and unintuitive.

It should be painless to change your localhost and username without ripping the entrails out of your installation.

>>62400122
Linux mint is by far one of the best distros around, and is also the single most popular distro, beating out both debian and ubuntu.

Please go be a hipster somewhere else.

>>62400125
>or localhost name
pretty sure you can change this any time you want without any issues

Users are a different story, but why even bother changing the name, why not just create a new user and move over your important files and then delete the old one?

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>>62400143
Mint is the memest meme distro ever.
People install it because its #1 distro on distrowatch, without knowing that Mint gained that popularity by actually getting cracked by some script kids (search the web for " backdoored linux mint isos" ).

"linux blogs" fall for it and repost how cool it is, but the only cool thing, newfriends may enjoy, is cinnamon, which is a DE, which works on any distro.

More about Linux Mint being shit here:
https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/
https://github.com/linuxmint/mintupdate/blob/master/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUpdate/rules
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4v116g/can_we_stop_recommending_linux_mint/
http://www.zdnet.com/article/hacker-hundreds-were-tricked-into-installing-linux-mint-backdoor/
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/11/canonical-dev-dont-use-linux-mint-online-banking-unsecure
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-the-linux-mint-hack-is-an-indicator-of-a-larger-problem/

>>62400143
>Linux mint is also the single most popular distro, beating out both debian and ubuntu.

[citation needed]

Oh wait, let me guess, you're going to say Distrowatch and pretend that 1) Mint doesn't game the system and 2) it holds ANY weight at all, given that advanced users have no use for any of the site.

>>62400032
Came here to post this

>>62400171
You can't. I changed it just the other day. Thought it would be simple, but I suddenly started throwing errors in my terminal and couldn't sudo.

Turned out that I had to edit etc/hosts and... some other etc file, can't remember what.

Which was a bit difficult because I couldn't use sudo...

>>62400211
dude, relax, distrowatch popularity is based on page hits not downloads or anything, just page hits. we all know that but it's still a good place to keep abreast of new releases and new distros

>>62400232
>replying to yourself
embrassing

>>62400211
>linux mint being the most popular distro is a conspiracy! They're gaming the system to SEEM popular!

toplel archtards

>>62400103
also interested

>>62400268
I somehow wish'd this was bait.

>>62400249
>it's actually just one guy arguing with himself in order to troll the thread while pretending to be more than one person

>>62400293
nobody would ever do this

>>62400268
We're not defending Arch, we're telling you that distrowatch counts clicks and Mint is actually trash.
>conspiracy
read >>62400188

>>62400307
tl;dr

>>62400326
>current state of /g/

>>62397601
hot damn

>>62399381
No problem
perl firefox2elinks.pl --i=bookmarks.html ---o=bookmarks
Hope it helps

Somehow the average IQ ITT has gone down in the last 2 days, what happened?

>>62400249
Oops, I actually meant to reply to >>62400188 when I realized the file that I was about to upload was already posted by him

>>62400408
All me

>>62400408
Last summer wave.

>>62400373
Might not be relevant, but there's an extra - by the output file.

>>62400460
I like how you're thinking.

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What's the very best distro?

>>62400460
Yeah, is an error of typing that wasn't on the terminal

>>62400490
Source Mage GNU/Linux

>>62400490
The one I'm using

>>62400373
>>62400505
So, to be clear, you are getting this output:

Converting firefox bookmarks "bookmarks.html"
    to elinks standard bookmarks "bookmarks".....
    Conversion complete

right? And the file "bookmarks" is empty?

Best way to delete a file?

>>62400539
Exactly

>>62400543
store it in mongodb

>>62400543
shred

>>62400543
Pretty sure there's a nodejs/electron solution for this on github. Should be available in the AUR.

>>62400546
Hmm. My last question would be: what version of Firefox did you use to create the bookmarks file? (I doubt it'd be of much relevance, though, since I can't imagine the Firefox devs would change how they arrange it.)

Beyond literally looking at your bookmarks file, I wouldn't know the problem.

>>62400490
GuixSD

>>62400606
I think it is 53, this problem is so weird, maybe it has to do on the way is saved or something, will check again tomorrow. I want to use elinks to store bookmarks but uses xbel as a format. Maybe this happens because my bookmarks are over 34MB, idk.

>>62400543
$ cat > file
$ mv file /etc/init/demons/

>>62400543
Assuming you're not joking and mean something like zeroing out the data then the best way to do it is the simplest.
There is literally an "attribute" you can set on files in some filesystems which will make it so any time that file gets deleted by any means it will automatically be zeroed out on the disk.

Unfortunately ext4 doesn't have it (although there is a patch). I'm under the impression it's _supposed to be_ implemented in all filesystems but some just don't.

Is there a way to stuff things into the trash bin more quickly?

Windows:
>select files, hit delete
>In the trash instantly

Linux:
>select files, hit delete
>waits 5 seconds doing nothing
>takes 10-30 seconds to trash files
>the more files the longer it takes

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>>62400695
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>62400695
mv file ~/.local/share/Trash/files/

>>62400695
You know that in windows you are not really deleting files, right? You know you can add a trash bin to your file manager of choice and have that increase in speed, right?

>>62400695
I usually just delete stuff completely without using trash so I never noticed. But it seems really strange to me that there would be a delay at all to just move something into trash. Moving files should be near instantaneous

>>62400695
not a linux problem
stop using shit file managers

>>62400695
Are you using Linux Mint?

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>>62400103
>>62400269

i3-msg open

>>62400982
Pape pls

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>>62400982
Ebin, thanks.

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>>62401065

Whats the coolest ntp server?

What's the htop for network stuff?

How do I list all of my current repositories in the command line?

>>62401321
Depends on the distro.

>>62401321

scribe index

how do I change my desktop applications on mate? it has xs home, wastebasket, and my computer I want none of it

>>reeeee

>>62401607
dumb frogposter

>>62399865
We won't see Hurd for x64 in our lifetime.

>>62402098
Hurd is v0.9 already since months any by the release cycle we can expect some 1.0 beta in 2-3 years. Also reminder that Hurd is not a high priority project (since there is Linux) and only a few devs work on it.

>>62402138
I don't think that's how version numbers work.

>>62402098
>>62402138
>Hurd
you mean the hurd based linux system?

>tfw in some years hurd will be a thing
>tfw people will still call it linux and unix
>tfw some company will come along and build a linux layer "the microkernel system for linux"
>red hat appears, introduces systemd aka "the hurd based init system for linux"
>companies pump money into the new microkernel subsystem for linux foundation
>hardware manufractors release nonfree drivers for microlinux
>microsoft <3 microlinux
>Canonical smells sheckles, joins Microsoft
>the Windows Subsystem for Micro Linux (WSML) appears
>Friendly GNU/Hurd Thread appears
>everyone calls it Linux
>interjections
>frogs
>death

>>62402311
stop

>>62401250
bump

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>>62399895
Yeah, it was kind of weird. I thought I was having a serious deja vu moment for a moment, there. I mean, agree with Bryan's sentiment almost wholeheartedly on this one, which is really seldom for me, nowadays, but he definitely needs more structure in this one. But I'm glad that he was so harsh towards these people, while still maintaining an astonishing amount of professionalism. In a way, I think his restrained-ness really accentuates how pervasively fucked up and hypocritical so many public figures in the free software world are. It's a really fucked up situation, and Lunduke otherwise handled it well. To bad he's too fucking lazy to write an outline before make his stupid thinkpieces.

>>62402311
Please take your pills senpai.

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>>62402311
I wish this weren't the truth

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>>62401174
The one next to you. Choose one in your country.

>>62400737
Marking files for deletion is not the same process as moving files from one directory to another. The "right click -> Move to trash" or "right click -> Delete" is userland speak and practice for a fairly extensive operation.

>>62400615
I would try it, but I never used a distro with linux-libre and I expect that nothing will work out of the box. I really likethe concept of Guix and even Sheperd though. Can someone share his experience with fsf distros?

>>62402996
UBUNTU IS LOV
UBUNTU IS LIF

>>62396420
Good one! I wish I had done so from the beginning. I didn't really learn very much when I ran Fedora, and probably should have skipped it as I wanted a riced OS from the beginning.

>>62395221
>>62395260
Bump. Im a newfag so not sure if something necessary in that list...

>>62403327
Yes, a bunch of that stuff is stuff that noobs will come on here complaining about if they didn't have.

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>>62402996
I used Trisquel for a while and everything worked out of the box, except wifi (sadly no fre drivers for my machine)). Got an usb adapter which fixed it.

>>62403514
the wifi thing is a huge problem with fsf distros, normies usually will just switch to a different distro with nonfree wifi drivers
where did you get that adapter?
which distro do you use now?

Im finally on Linux and can try some of the best exclusive software not available on Windows. I always heard that rtorrent is the best torrent client but i dont see how? What are the benefits compared to other lightweight clients?

>>62403571
install gentoo

Why dolphin doesn't remember if i closed with 2 panels or 1? Or he isn't supposed to and it can only be done in settings?

>>62399386

That guy is a narcissist first class.

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Post rare Stallmans.

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>>62403671

>>62403567
>where did you get that adapter?

website is literally written on the adapter on his pic. Most normal Atheros chipset based USB hardware should work, ThinkPenguin is overpriced as fug.

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>>62400734
But anon, without index you cant restore and you may also overwrite files with the same name.

>>62403935
if there some documentation how the trashbin works? would be cool to have a suckless-trash shell script

>>62403969

https://specifications.freedesktop.org/trash-spec/trashspec-latest.html

>>62403567
Try LB-Link (BL-WN151). They have Nano USBs that work out of the box with current linux kernel

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What is your Favorite IRC client under Linux, /fglt/?

>>62404126
OpenBSD netcat

Is it possible to set my the top line of my terminal to always display, for example the time ?

>>62399444
t. pajeet

>>62400490
Windows NT

>>62404126
install gentoo

>>62404276
Yes.

>>62404126
hexchat

>>62404276
Just use screen.

>>62404656
is this free software?

how to install gentoo?

common things to try to get a game working on fedora linux via steam?

So in Windows-land there's a useful piece of searching software called Everything. Its a simple GUI application that maintains an index of directories you specify and lets you type in a box and immediately get a list of search results displayed. It doesn't bother searching file contents, or on anything but the filename.

I remember hearing that there was a very similar application for unix-like systems, but I have no idea what it was called, does someone know what I'm talking about? None of the things in the Arch wiki's list of file-finders seem to be what I'm thinking of.

>>62405145
Just use find.

>>62405145
https://alternativeto.net/software/everything/?platform=linux

>>62405308
Angrysearch was the one I was failing to remember, thanks anon

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ok...idk if this is the right place to ask, but i need some help.

ive gotta write a seminar paper (or however you call it in english) on "network infrastructure based on open source"

i have no fucking clue what any of that means, but i was given linux and apache as an example of an OS and a server that are open source.

my question/request is - if anyone can tell me more examples of this, or a book that has some info on it, or a video series that explains things or anything... i would greatly appreciate it, since i cant for the life of me find anything useful on this subject (possibly because i have so little understanding of it, maybe its really easy to find idk)

>>62405145
man locate

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So, I recently tried out the proprietary AMD drivers (forgive me)
But after uninstalling them, my system (KDE Neon) freezes on startup
It displays the KDE Neon startup with that spinning circle for a while and then freezes
And the fan is going crazy
And I cannot access any tty
Anyone willing to help me out?
Its an HP with A10 9600p/R7m 340

>>62405529
What do you want to know?
Examples of webservers?
nginx is also very popular.
Or do you need examples of how to setup a server? digital ocean is a good place for that.

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So I am running this program called life and I fucked up during the install. Is their any way to go back and add more packages to the basic install without losing my current installation?

>>62405900
well yeah, just a simple rundown of things relating to "open source network infrastructure" or examples of it or something.

i was told basically that the infrastructure consists of an OS and a server, and was given linux and apache as an open source example. are there any other examples of those or are they the only ones?

Seems like openSUSE has Nvidia drivers now? Should I switch all my machines from Fedora 26 to Tumbleweed?

Reading on X11, jesus, there are so many treasures hidden!
>x[tab][tab] gives a nice preview of installed X programs
Hacking on X is pretty easy too, removing window decorations, setting transparency, etc.
Why didn't anyone tell me how cool X actually is.

>>62399957
as someone who is new to linux, i see alot of people recommending Void. What sets it apart from linux mint and arch? what are its pro's and con's

>>62406392
No systemd, pretty nice installer, just werks
However, it lacks packages and many packages are outdated
Void is great if you don't mind compiling many programs yourself

>>62406392
autism

>>62406424
Im running a budget build for a Gaming/Linux machine, and i was wondering if i can expect WINE to be resource intensive. most serious thing i plan to run on it would be Star Citizen

>>62406457
Just dual boot or use a VM with GPU passthrough
WINE doesn't work that well for modern, demanding games

>>62406548
For the GPU passthrough would i need a spare SSD or could i use the one im booting my system off of

ok guys, gotta myself a t440p using manjaro for a while and thinking about going to antegeros...
I don't use PURE arch because i am to retarded to install it (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
question is: what is the best way to backup all my software and settings? Like is there any way to create a script so that if i am on antegeros, i just start it and all my beloved apps are back and i only need to copy my backupsettings back?

>>62406610
Why would you need it?

>>62406677
I assumed to boot up windows through it, a guide i looked at recommended it, im brand new to linux, and have 0 idea what im doing. but with each passing moment my seething rage against the botnet grows, and i also dont want to give Microsoft my shekels.

>>62406610
Nope, why would you need it?
But you need a 2nd GPU
And you should use an AMD card for GPU passthrough as nvidia has blocked it on their consumer cards
You can get nvidia cards to work, but its a hassle

>>62399039
Only if you can also use Libreboot.

What's going on with th installgentoo wiki?

>>62406883
is kill

How can i unhide application from application launcher in kde? It stiil in the edit menu, but i'm not seeing any visibility controls.

>>62406901
Really?

->
-> >>62407144
->

Why are my Nvidia drivers on Linux so fucking laggy compared to Nouveau?

Nvidia 1


https://webmshare.com/EBNPa

2 http://webm.land/w/xTtr/


Nouveau https://webmshare.com/eQvVJ

anyone experience similar?

?/

>>62404126
emacs

>>62405952
install gentoo

>>62407373
Because nvidia drivers fucking suck ass on linux