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first for ulv cpulets

>>62387556
Function first, cute later.

Completely Official /tpg/ T440p buyer's guide

CPU - i3 dual, i5 dual, i7 dual, i7 quad. Middle is pointless, latter is marked with MQ. I've never seen an i3. Easy to swap. Most commmon ones - i5 4200m, i5 4300m, i7 4700mq. Best upgrade is either a 4712mq for equivalent wattage to the dual cores or 4710/4810/4910 for higher clocks, depending on which one you can find for cheap. Only big difference between those is clocks, 4700/4800/4900 work fine as well. Note - haven't actually seen proof of a 4712 working, it's not on the official compatibility list but it should work.

RAM - PC3-12800 1600MHZ DDR3, two slots, both swappable. 16GB max, pretty sure that's a Haswell limit.

Storage - one internal SATA 2.5 bay, one internal M.2 2242 SSD slot, optional one 2.5 drive in the DVD """"UltraBay"""" drive bay. It might not be clear where the drives in the one you're buying are, ask if you want to know.

Screen - 766p/900p TN, 1080p IPS. 1080 swap is cheap, not a big deal. B140HAN01.1, .2 or .3 are recommended. IIRC it's matte/glossy/semi-matte in that order.

Battery - 6cell or 9cell, later has a rear bulge. Worth it.

Trackpad - if you want the classic style, swap it for the T450 one. Just remove the backplate (2 screws), the palmrest (7 or 8 screws) and replace the touchpad (4 screws) which is a component of the palmrest. Reassemble and done.

Keyboard - modern Lenovo chiclet, can't be swapped unlike xx30 series. By chiclet standards it's pretty damn good though.

GPU - GT730M. Pretty much pointless, I'd avoid it. Can't be swapped without swapping the motherboard.

Extra - GPU model has a different heatsink, it keeps it a tiiiiiny bit cooler. Few degrees, but if you're right on the edge of throttling after a quad core swap it might be worth a shot.

Any suggestions?

>tfw no place to buy alienware mod

>>62387846
48** and higher processors have higher igpu clocks,making it marginally better
>1600MHZ
Supports up to 2133MHz
>one internal M.2 2242 SSD slot
can use an msata drive too with a little $3 adapter and cutting the adapter in half (i'm doing this shit with an spare msata ssd i had)
>DDR3
DDR3L (1.35v)
>palmrest (7 or 8 screws)
11 screws (some are hidden under the battery), you also need to remove the keyboard to disconnect the touchpad cable

Why is the screen so bad for the T430? My old laptop was 720P and had better color and brightness. I thought the bump up to 900p would help.

What should (can) I use with my t60?

>>62390765
You should upgrade the motherboard to T70.

>>62390765
Ar you asking what OS you can use with it, or what you can use the laptop for?

Xubuntu
Just about anything except hardware hungry gaming or HD video editing

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I got a FHD W520 with 16 GB of ram for 220, did I do good /tpg/?

>>62388879
>Why is the screen so bad for the T430?
because it's a thinkpad

https://mega.nz/fm/EzIxwQ6A

Logo file for older (pre-420) BIOSes. (Worked on my W510)

>>62391523
>mega
but why

>>62391291
Bretty gud.

T430 Mint condition
backlight keyboard
i5-3320
8GB ram
250GB SSD
HD+ screen

150 bongs

Did I do good?

Where do I snack a cheap i7 QM quadcore? A friend mentioned to buy old broken fujitsos and then build the cpu out

>>62391291
Very good.

http://imgur.com/a/i6w0z BIOS image album. Does imgur fuck it?

>Blazepad w/ fingerprint sensor, 6GB RAM, dock included
>$95
>purchased with 128gb mSATA SSD and 9 cell
>$165 total
Feels good, bros. Will probably upgrade to one of the quad core processors in the future and get an EXP GDC w/ 1050 Ti, any other mods I should make?

>>62391597
Yes, you did very well

I've just bought a refurbished T420 and it looks almost brand new. Clean, no cracks, no rust, only a few scrapes.

But I'm kinda confused by the temperatures. It idles at around 35 - 40 °C, doing basic stuff gets it to about 45, browsing gets it to 50 - 60 depending on what I'm doing, and under heavy loads which push the CPU to the limit, it reports 80 °C. Stress testing (Prime95) got it to 90 °C.

The really weird thing is, it can jump from 40 to 80 in 2 seconds, almost immediately after starting a demanding process. It also jumps down to almost idle temps immediately after stopping the work. To top it off, even when it's showing 80 °C, the exhaust blows only warm air.

Is this normal?

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>>62391823
>Will probably upgrade to one of the quad core processors in the future and get an EXP GDC w/ 1050 Ti
Reminds me of the T420 i had before, it was a great machine.

>>62392108
had this problem until I put linux on it
use arch/deb and it'll stay coooooooool

>>62392168
I'm actually using Debian on it. It came with Win 10 preinstalled, and that's when I did the Prime95 test (measured the 90 °C using Speccy). The other readings are under Debian (Xfce) using xfce4-sensors.

>>62392254
what do you use your t420 for? Mines basically a fresh install of debian and all I do is use it as a 4chan machine so it never gets hotter than 40'c

Back when it had win10 though it used to melt when I did anything at all

>>62392124
How did the eGPU setup run with the laptop quads?

>>62392108
open it and put new thermal paste on it.

Also clean the fan from the inside to make sure it is clean

>>62392300
Well I use it as an everything machine. If I'm only on 4chan, it does stay at about 40 - 45, but 1080p 60fps videos take it to the 60 range, and upgrading all of the CPAN modules has it periodically peak at 70-ish.

>>62392327
Pretty good at the time, rbt.asia/g/thread/57654256/#57687138 was with a 950 which i had before the 1050ti.

The build itself was pretty solid, i just sold it because i got bored of videogames.

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I managed to scratch my T420 which I use for uni and it annoys the living shit out of me.

>>62392678
How bad is it?

>>62391809
bump

>>62392719
Quite bad on the top portion on the laptop lid.

>>62392808
Can't take a picture right now.

Also, my pen scratched it.
God, I wish I wasn't as autistic as I am.

>>62392808
>>62392849

If it's really, really bugging you, you can just buy a new one.

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Rate my new Memepad. Got it for free. Too bad it's super slow due to low power CPU meme even though it has an SSD.

Is there any way to get the middle mouse button alone? I do not feel like buying an entire keyboard just because one button is missing.

>>62392417
I do have a warranty though. Even if it's a ThinkPad, I'd rather not fuck it up by opening it since I've only ever tinkered with the inside of desktops.

Still waiting on my two msata drives in the mail. I have an X220T and a W520, what OS should I put on the the msata drives? Should it be Windows 7 or should I go Hackintosh? The main SSD will probably be for linux.

inb4 SATA II is 2 slow

https://forum.thinkpads.com//viewtopic.php?t=122224
WHEN?

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>>62393056
I heard that it's the access times that makes SSD's fast. SATA 2 only limits you in transfer speeds if I'm not mistaken.

>>62391093
ty
Though is there any meaningful diff between using xubuntu from debian with xfce? Ive been meaning to try debian out for an while.

>>62388879
ThickBads have terrible screens, all of them
>>62387846
I'm on the verge of buying this too, but I'm not convinced on the screen quality (contrast/color space), plus this one needs modding to make good potential of it, and anything more than adding store bought ram/SSD is out of my league

where/what do i look for a replacement t420 battery, i think mine just shit itself. was working fine one day, then i shut it, unplug it, and won't turn on in class. AC works fine.

Amazon has a shitload but I'm not sure what to look for

>>62393056
Can you even put hackintosh on the tablet models? or the w520 with the fhd screen and nvidia gpu?

Also yeah >>62393145 is right so sata2 doesn't matter.

>>62393370
>ThickBads have terrible screens, all of them
The FHD IPS T440p doesn't have this problem.

Well it sort of does with the LG display but not with the AUO one.

I'm stuck on x230 storage options
>500gb 850 Evo SSD
$145
>256gb 850 Evo mSATA + 1TB HGST 5400rpm
$161 total

I'm mostly going to have some games and movies plus ebooks/PDF's but not data horde tier. I'd like to be energy efficient so I'm doubting the HDD. On the other hand, I kinda like having OS on one drive and storage on another so wiping my OS is a breeze.
Are Toshiba mSATA's any good? I could do a used mSATA + 500gb 850 evo affordably.

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>>62393370
You can get one stock with 1080 IPS, it's worth keeping an eye out. The colors aren't the best if you actually need color accuracy though.

Also, swapping the CPU on this is faster and easier than swapping the screen, or even the trackpad. Weird design.

>>62392927
ok valid point. You might want to check if there is any seal. Also don't worry about tinkering so many videos online. I am also a desktop fag got a HP Elitebook and decided to do some more tinkering with the T430 now. At somepoint I get a T420 and do full blown autist mod

>>62392542
Do you know how to mod the cooling system? Also are the 45W Quads fine or am I safer with a 35W one?

>>62393653
>Do you know how to mod the cooling system?
Replace the stock single pipe iGPU heatsink for the dGPU one but i didn't do it, just rolled with the single heatpipe stock one.
>Also are the 45W Quads fine or am I safer with a 35W one?
That's a 2720qm 45w one, you won't reach 45w unless it's at full load on all cores and you can throttle the TDP anyway.

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Why aren't you anons using an X40?

>no hardware backdoor
>super efficient processor
>best keyboard
>near-retina screen
>10+ hour battery life with wireless, 14 hours with it turned off (with new chink battery)
>no homosex trackpad
>no need to install transexual boot shit
>gigabit ethernet
>tiny and sexy
>proper aspect ratio
>internal roll cage to protect drive (no screen / lid cage but IDGAF)
>actual IBM logo
>no built in camera or mic, stymies CIA niggers
>only $30 or so
>cute docking station and extended battery available
>*yellow* thinklight to preserve night vision
Why don't you own the finest laptop ever made?

Photogenic weekend pic included.

>>62393769
>Photogenic weekend pic included.
Anon, that's just not true.

I has picked up a really nice x60s in excellent condition considering its age. I'm thinking of adding a ssd, maxing the ram and librebooting it. Recommendations for software? Xfce? Its such a nice machine I would like to use it somehow. Or should I just keep XP on it for historical preservation.

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>tfw you miss the ups truck by minutes and have to wait til tomorrow

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>>62394233
>FedEx has said "out for delivery" for 3 days

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>>62393785
Oops, sorry.

>>62394157
I don't think the X60 has the ME, why fool with that software at all?

>>62394288
Just as a project and faster boot meme. Seems like a nice project to make some old kit a useful tool What are you running on that x40 to make it useful? or is just a photo prop?

redpill me on thinkpad fan speeds.

If you lower them, will you die?

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PAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTCCCCCHHH

WHEN IS THE NEXT STICKER DROP?

I WANT MY AUTISM STICKER NOW

>>62394389
I use it for browsing, use it as a remote terminal for SSH, doing a bit of coding, watching videos with youtube-dl and mplayer, running games in emulators, ham radio applications, etc.

With the SSD it's quite fast enough for all of the above. Heck I even throttle it to 900MHz on battery with TLP to save juice, and it runs so cool that it almost never turns the fans on.

As the ME attacks make it into the wild it will be very handy to have.

>>62387753
Hi, guys.

Is there anyone here with Debian on the X220? I'm trying to set CPU throttling to make my cpu run a little cooler (running Firefox makes it go to 50°C in a cold room)

>>62394660
Cool thanks.

I'm thinking Debian and Xfce.

>>62394713
I removed systemd from Debian manually, it was a bit of a pain in the ass.

I put Devuan on my new (to me) T60 the other day and like it a lot though.

>>62394684
You want tlp.

My T530 just made a dull click and DIED. It doesn't respond at all, and doesn't make any light when I plug the charger in. I'm thinking it's probably something with the power internals. Any ideas how I can fix it? If it matters, I was using the dedicated GPU at the time and was plugged into the wall. PLEASE HELP!

>>62394558
why does this expire?

>>62394855
OK, did TLP, now running at 47°C with the same load. Could it be the the dock doing this?

>>62394855
I want of devuan it sort of feels like the project will fall on its arse at any minute. I think I will stick with Debian with systemsd purged

>>62395094
It's just Debian with some stuff compiled to remove systemd dependencies.

>>62394936
No. You should have gotten the **20 series.

>>62395382
Thanks for all the help. I have an X220 Tablet as well, but I need my T530 to work too!

>>62394936
If only you've bought a MacBook with Apple Care instead .

>>62395468
Hello X220T brother

Just bought my first, got a x131e Intel version, how'd I do?

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other than libreboot is there any reason i should get an x220 over a panasonic toughbook or similar?

>2010 chinkpad x201
>recently installed SSD
>4GB ram
>old i5 processor
>usually 10-15 tabs open
>plays 1080 streams fine
>can browse /biz/and /g/ on a second monitor

works like a dream -

cost £150 three years ago
SSD cost me £60 last week

ill get another 2 years plus out of this

>buying a laptop for more than £/$ 300

works like a dream

Any x100e owners? They look qt. The only reviews I can find say they run hot.

I see them for $30-50 shipped, but should I just save my shekels and get an x220-230 instead?

>>62395998
on this point will i realistically notice a difference upping it to 8GB RAM?

>>62393546
those colors are really shit

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Are L530's decent? Pic related costs 225 euro's; 1920x1080, 128 ssd, 8GB. It'll mostly be used for facebook and browsing

>>62395531
no, toughbooks are better than thinkpads in every way except cost

>>62396344
That doesn't look like and L530.

Does the T420 have a better screen than the T430? I know they both have 900p options and read that the T420 is brighter.

>>62395468
This is your fault for buying a T530.

>>62396380
you're right, bottom right says l540 - looks like a fishy deal, ill pass

>>62396344
That's an L540. Not bad, but better can be had at that pricepoint (W520 for example)

I m looking for a ThinkPad with a i5 8gb of ram and 1920x1080 ips 14'display. Which one would you recommend ?

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Why does /g/ hate the modern Thinkpad?

>>62396745
Cause they aren't cheap.

>>62396888
What about the new retro thinkpads?

>>62396745
Might as well buy a macbook at that price point

Just ordered a T430
i5-3320m
4gb ram
320gb HDD
Condition looks damn near new, I don't know the screen resolution since the seller didn't specify.

Did I do good?

>>62396929
$145 btw

>>62396913
No one knows what it's really going to be, so it's too early to say. Rumors indicate it's just going to be a T470 with the old keyboard, which would be a severe letdown.

Anyone serious has probably bought the T70/X62 already or is waiting for the X210/X310.

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Hey, so why does my X220T run so hot when just watching a 720p video with a single chat application open in 'balanced' mode?
I don't see any significant throttling or anything, and a new application of thermal paste did nothing to help from the temps I was getting with the factory paste.

>>62396735
literally second post in this thread

>>62396456
both use the same screens, thus both can do the alienware screen mod

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>>62396113
I don't hate it but here is the reasons why the older keyboard is better, hence the older ThinkPads are better.
>red
The best functional arrow key setup on any keyboard in existence. Having the Forward and Backwards buttons makes using your file browser so much easier, and using your web browser as well. sometimes Backspace won't work and won't be recognised. Also if you press the Fn key, the arrows become media player controls. This is extremely nice when you Alt-Tab into your music player the Fn-Arrow key to do whatever you need to do.
The new keyboard has none of this.
>blue
Personally I think the x200/201 setup is the best because it has NO trackpad. Honestly what sets ThinkPads apart from other computers is the TrackPoint, so might as well get rid of that trackpad. Also the left/right buttons are raised so that you can really feel the difference between them.
>yellow
Along with media controls with the Fn+Arrow keys, you have actual physical volume controls. If you're in the dark or can't look at your screen, you can still mute or change the volume almost instantly just by feel. That's almost impossible to do with the new keyboard without at least glancing.
>green
ANSI enter key just works better. It's closer to your pinky finger. New ThinkPads at least have this.

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Hi /tpg/. I bought my first thinkpad last weekend. (T420) love how highly serviceable these things are. Buy a new palm rest + keyboard, they feel new out of the box pretty much. AHHH

>>62393546
GIANT
FUCKING
BEZEL

>>62397225
nobody cares
it's the same shit with smartphones
>hurr let's make this shit 100% screen so it'll break by itself
>ebin xdx

>>62397195
remove the bios message, there's an option in the boot or startup tab don't remember where

>>62397195
>CringePad

>>62397454
>CutePad
ftfy

>>62397414
I just did. It looks cleaner now thanks anon!
>>62397454
s-sorry

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>>62397454
>he doesn't have a cute anime bios logo
what a pleb

>>62397195
does the same method work for anything newer than the **20 series? have a t440s i would like to alter.

What ThinkPad do I buy for 250 bux

>>62397673
Also I want as little botnet as possible.

>>62397225
>"HURR DURR HEUG BEZUL!!!"

>>62397673
t440p
>no botnet
404 doesn't exist
>as little as possible
something trannybootable like the x61 or x200

>>62397667
see >>62353210

>>62397723
thanks pham

>>62397195
I was looking into purchasing these for the nonprofit I work for, but the screens are just too shitty. They won't work with the database app that everyone uses.

I ordered a Lenovo Yoga 720 for a coworker that kept pushing me to order it. It arrived from Amazon, curled like a potato chip from rough handling.

Everybody there wants macbook clones but they don't realize how fragile the things are, and these are clumsy people.

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haven't lurked these threads in a while, are people just following this guide for the BIOS splash screens?
http://giocc.com/custom-bios-splash-screen-for-new-thinkpad-series.html

and how do you compensate for a 16:9 screen with "Dimensions must be 640x480 pixels"

>>62398077
There's literally a bios_logo.txt in the official BIOS with instructions for your model.

>and how do you compensate for a 16:9 screen
why do you think they look cramped like shit

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Dell E6440
godlike keyboard

>>62396888
This

I want to do a fresh windows 10 install but I'm getting conflicting answers regarding a question. Do I need to install any extra Lenovo apps or no? Some answers online day I do to update drivers while others say I don't because windows does it automatically. So, do I? And if so, what Lenovo applications do I need?

>>62391809
Can you please do a MAGA version?

The Hitler one is the closest to what I want but I can't use it, because, well, Hitler...

you can keyboard swap on an x230 right? also is 110 for 3320M 8GB Ram no HDD but battery and Charger included good?

>>62398248
You don't 'need' to but you might find it beneficial. Windows Update is supposed to get the right drivers but sometimes it doesn't. I always just use Lenovo's System Update tool for drivers and software and junk, you can simply uncheck the things you don't want to install.

You could also install the Lenovo Settings App that shows you a little more information and gives access to a few more settings.

>>62398305
Not him but make one yourself with your native resolution and I'll try to make it flashable and <30kb

>>62393487
anyboby?

>>62398404
>not data hoarder tier
then even a 120gb msata should be enough for the OS + applications

>>62398404
don't stick an HDD in your laptop you will regret it

also you can get used 840/850 evo mSATA's off of Ebay for pretty cheap

>>62391597
ebay? I'm jelly.

>>62398404
I've dealt with a bunch of failed ssd's at work so I kinda like the two drive idea.

Of course, keeping your important shit backed up is the biggest thing nobody bothers to do.

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What do you guys think about getting an X230(no ips) for coding on an IDE like eclipse? Would the screen be to cramped?
I was considering getting one to upgrade my T400, I can live with the keyboard downgrade, mainly looking for something faster (P8700 vs i7-3520M) and lighter (currently using a 9 cell on the T400).

>>62398512
Spare your eyes and get something bigger

>>62396745
Shit keyboards. Intel botnet engine.

>>62398512
I'd suggest a T430s, yes soldered processor and can't use a 9 cell but they come with 1600x900 and are slimmer than the normal T versions.

or an X240/T440/T440s if you want full hd and ulv 15w processor to trade a bit of performance for better battery life

>>62398512
>1366x768 MAX resolution
>Eclipse

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>>62387753
>tfw the two machines I own are recommended

But why?

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>>62398388
my attempts at making it <30kb and 1366x768 are REALLY bad, not sure if I'm just retarded or it's just natural

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Has anyone flashed Coreboot on an X220 recently?

I believe all the guides are out of date.
I have all the necessary materials.
Trying to set up the raspberry pi yields an error retrieving Flashrom.

halp

this is the primary guide I've been following:
https://tylercipriani.com/blog/2016/11/13/coreboot-on-the-thinkpad-x220-with-a-raspberry-pi/

>>62399145
because we <3 you

>>62399162
lower the resolution and it's be better size wise

>>62399145
Winshit never gets old

>>62398441
>>62398468
>>62398487
thanks lads

Is it true the L440 has both expresscard and socketted CPU? Sounds superior to the T440p.

>>62399145
<3 dat wallpaper
>busy enjoying thinkpad pron
>don't even notice buttplug until someone points it out

Where do I get a charger for the T430?

>>62396745
ULV shit CPUs

>>62399854
ebay, amazon

just needs to be 20V and either 65W or 90W

>>62399162
Try something simpler i guess, i can't make it <30kb without looking like shit either.

Is there a good place to buy ThinkPads online? There is no chance in hell that I could get one locally, but I'm really into the idea of owning one. I'm in canada if that helps.

>>62400823
>There is no chance in hell that I could get one locally
why is that?

>>62400853
Just geographically very remote. I've been checking local buy/sell services for a few months now and nothings come up.

>>62400823
>canada
Unless you're living in some remote bumfuck somewhere there, you should be able to get one locally. Otherwise, try searching whatever is the canadian equivalent to craigslist or ebay.

i use a new model thinkpad and i enjoy it and there's nothing you can do about it

>>62400823
Try Kijiji canadabro

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I'm considering getting a T420... I currently have an Acer Chromebook C720 with Arch on it. Should I push for a 1600x900 screen for the T420 or will the more common and cheap 1366x768 get the job done?

What I can do with my expresscard slot?

>>62400823
check ebay, a lot of electronics recyclers tend to post their thinkpads there

>>62401008
1366x768 is the business standard bro ;)

>>62400823
Leaf here, I used ebay. Even with bullshit import and shipping fees its still cheaper than the prices they offer locally

I'm willing to buy a T420/T430 with an upgraded screen (Alienware IPS) for $1000-1500 depending on the other specs if anyone's interested in selling theirs.

How well does Windows 10 work on a T420? I've read around but can't get a clear picture.
My computer currently has Win8.1 on it and I was hoping to go back to 7, but Microsoft seems to have erased all legit ISO's from the internet, any idea where I can get a clean Win7 Pro ISO?

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What's the best replacement 9 cell battery for a T510 I can get in the UK that wont cost me a billion pounds? I bought a chink 6 cell one from 'DTK' about 6 months ago and it's already dead, I got a full refund, but still surprised it died so fast.

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>>62401153
>leaf here

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How long does it take Lenovo to ship?
I ordered an X1 carbon with a Qualcomm Snapdragon X7 LTE-A, 1 TB SSD, a 14.0" WQHD (2560x1440) IPS anti glare screen, and a backlit keyboard.
The estimated shipping date is the 20th, and the delivery date being the 27th.
Will it really take that long to manufacture the laptop?

>>62401568
Those Chinese children are very tired anon, you would be too if you worked 20 hour days. Be patient.

x220 stuck in somewhere because irma hurricane, no power, cant make shipping label apparently.

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>>62401771

>>62401023
Add USB 3.0 ports

>>62401791
Bwahahaha

>>62401989
I am $500USD x220 person. $8USD shipping.

>>62401023
egpu, be careful though as i burned my southbridge out by doing this.

I'm currently in Japan and it's inspired me to go on a quest to get a PC110. Does anyone know how I could acquire one of those based things?

>>62401314
>Alienware IPS
doesn't exist

or if you mean the T420 FHD IPS mod it'll be very hard to track one of the 20 guys who were lucky enough to get one of those like two years ago and also worked fine with their boards

>>62387753
Should I get a Elitebook 8470P or a T430s?
The T430s is a bit more expensive but it has 8GB ram. CPU is the same, 3320M

I got my first thinkpad today, is it normal for the lid to have this sparkly effect?

X220 or X230?
What to look out for? OP says keyboards can be switched for the "old" look, at that point why not buy the 230 over the 220?

>>62402580
Buy a X220, flash coreboot and upgrade the processor yourself.

Found a T60 in the trash in pretty good condition. Spent about 30 bucks today buying little upgrades here and there on feebay.

So far.

bought T7400 cpu, t7600 was 15 dollars more!
SSD drive i had laying around
bought 4gb of memory even though only 3gb can be used due to chipset.
bought 9 cell batteries
bought new cmos battery

it has intel gma video and was wondering about installing libreboot but turns out it depends on the panel and that sometimes it wont work and will leave your laptop headless or even bricked, which would then require buying a bus pirate and reflashing it again which is another adventure in itself and an additional 30 dollars in hardware.

should i just not install libreboot? also what distro should i use? this isn't my first time using linux but i really want a throw around laptop and this will be it. I don't want bloated crap. I want something that i can learn on, so it doesn't have to be easy to use.

which distro would that be?

>>62402608
what is coreboot?
i honestly need a secondary computer to basically use when im taking a shit
i could do a tablet but at $250 itll be the same price

>>62402608
soldered processor

>>62401475
p-pls respond

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>new AMD ThinkPads with...... Bristol Ridge (Bulldozer shit CPUs)

Why?

Is Lenovo just getting the platform ready for Raven Ridge and beta-testing the platform with the dummies stupid enough to buy a Bulldozer laptop?

>>62402685
No idea i only buy chinese batteries from aliexpress.

In fact I'm waiting for a fake T440p 9-cell to arrive and I'm curious about what'll happen since these thinkpads supposedly have battery DRM that blocks fake batteries from working. Either i get a decent knockoff battery that works or full refund and recycle the shitty 16850 cells.

>>62402580
X230 for the Intel HD4000 graphics, beats 3000 by a lot.

>>62402761

No, AMD is trying to get rid of surplus stock to pad their revenue for the quarter. Lenovo wouldn't turn down dirt cheap hardware, nobody would that's why these are low end devices.

>>62402784

When you get it make sure to make a post on /tpg/ and provide screenshots of battery info from hwinfo64 and document it's wear levels. I am curious how it will hold up. Usually you're fine if you don't exceed 3% wear after 30 cycles.

>>62402946
Will do, if i don't post about it in a month starting from now then the battery didn't work.

I also had a fake 9-cell on my T420, managed to get like 7h of browsing out of it for an entire year or so before selling the t420.

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Been scanning for past couple days, found this tonight. T420s (was looking for another t420 but w/e), i7 500gb hdd 16 gb ram all for $165. How I'd do

>>62398077
>how to compensate for 16:9
squeeze the image, silly

Lenovo Companion or Lenovo System Update?

>>62394936
Check louis rossmann's board repair videos, to analyse the failure in the system. Also, the power port is replaceable and cost just a few bucks.

>>62399145
Female+penis?

Can any capable programmer make a program that would cycle through a bunch of BIOS images?(meaning, there should be a new image on every boot.)

>>62403876
Start learning Assembly because I've never heard of that being done.

>>62403876
The procedure pretty much needs two restarts, I don't think it's doable.

Even if it was, you'd have to update the damn bios every time you boot. Welcome back to 5400rpm boot times.

x1 carbon gen 5 any good? anyone here have one?

What cracks and scratches are easily removable by replacing lid/case, and which should be avoided, when buying?

I can get an X200 Touch for 180$
Would anyone recommend? It has been renovated and gotten a new hard disk and ram.

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>>62404144
Pic related.

>>62396163
Yeah you can open 10-30 tabs

>>62403948
>>62403938
What if the program would run just before shutdown, meaning before every shutdown, the BIOS image would be replaced by a new one. Would that work?

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>T420 arriving tomorrow
This is my first Thinkpad ever, I'm more excited than I should be.

>>62399306
>>62399544
>>62399846
T- Thanks...

>>62403739
Nope.

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>>62405061
Don't use buttplugs m8....pic related.

The woman next to me on the train is using an X220, I think I'm in love

>>62405061
>>62405172
I imagine buttplugs would yield the same outcome

>>62405186
Ask her if she visits /g/.....don't act autistic tho.

>>62395531
X220 doesn't have Libreboot yet, Anon.

>>62405186
I refuse to believe it.

>>62399199
You think I could use the same advice for a T430?

Hey guys, I'm thinking of swapping my T420 for a T440p because I need more power to run my gaymes. Do you think it's a wise upgrade?

With the Sandy Bridge integrated GPU I can't play much and I pass a lot of time on my laptop, while with a Haswell one I think I could run at least EU4 and somewhat more intensive games.

My only issue would be that I fucking love the T420 keyboard, is there some hack to place it in place of the T440p?

>>62405593
Just get used to the chiclet keyboard of the t440p.
Install an i7 4800QM for the higher clicked iGPU and then get 1866MHz or 2133MHz DDR3L 16gb kit of ram (protip: the latter is very overpriced) or get the one with the GT 730m but honestly it's a piece of shit.

I don't normally post but I have developed a habit of browsing g since its the default board on clover, new intro is good! Whoever makes these posts keep using it.

T. T440s user (ex t420s and t410) (trackpad is shit keyboard is better)

>>62405616
>>62405593


>>62387846
Obligatory guide.

No, you can't replace the keyboard. It's still good by modern standards though.

>>62405593
Yes get the one with the GT 730m

>>62405616
The only bad advice here is telling someone who is specifically asking for gaming performance to opt for the model with the iGPU. Even if the GT 730m is a piece of shit, it's significantly better than the HD4600.

Benchmarks
https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-730M.84681.0.html

Here's it running GTA V medium 720p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX6JuStl2Q4

Also here's a look at where the Intel iGPUs stand in relation to each other.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/three-generations-intel-hd-graphics-tested/
This is a comparison of the GT 720m beating the HD 530
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyXCt8CgSm0

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Hi /tpg/, laptop noob here, starting compsci uni this year and looking for a nice work/fun laptop.

>budget up to €500
>expect to spend most time on my laptop outside of home
>don't mind carrying some weight
>A larger screen might be useful for coding (?)
>don't play vidya much but would enjoy some twitch streams or maybe a movie (even if the screen quality is bad).

I guess I'm looking for a mobile workstation and would like the most comfort I can get when it's all set up, with maybe some entertainment capabilities. From the guide it seems I should be looking at the T420/T440p, T520 or W520 with the X's probably too small. But I'm having a hard time narrowing things down from the recommended laptops.

Can any compsci student or software engineer recommend any of these over the others, given that budget shouldn't be a problem? Or perhaps tell me what criterium would help me make a decision?

what price should i be expecting for a well conditioned x220, with i7 processor and 128 ssd?

>>62405851

i7 is still dual core higher clocked i5. $200 max for NA. $300 max for Australia.

>>62405911
and in europe?

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>>62405593
Here, check this out. Some random gaems

>>62387846
Not useless for gaymen

>>62387753
I bought a new 8GB RAM stick for my x220, taking it up to 12GB total. Memtest86 reports no errors, but I'm getting intermittant program crashes and system freezes.
Am I looking at a voltage/power issue here?
There doesn't seem to be a way to adjust voltages/timings etc for RAM in the x220's BIOS. Should I remove one of the sticks?

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Im trying to watch videos with mpc on my t500 but sometimes video keeps fucking up, pic related. How do I fix this?

Video itself plays fine on my desktop.

I spilt a little bit of something on my keyboard and now the keys act all weird like i press v and it does enter for me or i press another key and it does like 10 letters

is my chinkpad still salvagable can i just replace the keyboard and it will be all good? if so wtc a cheap keyboard replacement

>>62406143
i guess i should mention its a t420

>>62406143
maybe just take it out, open it up as far as possible and clean with ispropyl alcohol and let it dry... see what happens.

>>62387846
>730M is useless
Sure anon let's all buy W530s

730M with a quad core that won't push things over housefire level is great for gaymen plus it doesn't suffer a few of the homosex issues a egpu would suffer like being fuckhueg or having gimmicky setup or having to use an external monitor for full performance
Definitely worth considering if your focus is gaymen
Otherwise ignore

>>62406828
The point I was going for is that both the 730M and HD4600 aren't very powerful. It's also much harder to find the dGPU model, and it pulls a lot of extra power.

>>62387846
>T440p
I am belgian, i see a lot of good deal's for a Lenovo T440 not a T440p.
What's the difference, will a be able to switch the stock HD+ to a B140HAN01 IPS 1080x1920 display ?

>>62406143
When my keyboard did this it was gone for good, and I cleaned it with rubbing alcohol and that might have been what destroyed it

It could have also been a weird coincidence because I was pretty sure the alcohol was dry.

>>62406843
Don't you think that's an important distinction. Don't you think if you're writing a buyers guide you should present the positive case alongside the negative?

Also. Nvidia optimus.

>>62402116
You grossly overpaid and got C H I N K E D

>>62397010
>tfw waiting for X210t
feelsbadman

>>62405937
Average 2.1x performance increase HD 4600 -> GT 730m over 8 benchmarks on that chart at 720p high preset.

>>62405732
W510/520 is the best laptop for you. Make sure to get one in 1080p.

>>62406912
I think the answer is yes.
https://youtu.be/SSFXzT8rjns

>>62406930
That's why I asked for suggestions. Adding.

Also, I forgot Optimus existed. Haven't really looked into dGPUs on laptops.

>>62387753
Looking for a small ThinkPad for some light gaming. My X220 can't even run the original Dark Souls. I don't really want to use a eGPU.

Do I have any options?

>>62407073
>>62405937
If you can find one with the GPU, T440P is solid.

>>62405732
I'm a CS student and I'm using a T530, because it have a larger screen than T4xx and a better iGPU than xx20, which is good for coding and occasional movie watching.
I'm planning to do a keyboard swapping mod because the Home/End buttons positions on the "new" chicklet keyboard horrible for coding/writing.

>>62407046
Good stuff. Yeah, well I don't know much about optimus other than it turns off the dGPU under normal usage so you don't have to suffer it's higher power draw. Maybe that's all you need to know from a consumer stand point though.

Any setup possible with a cheap used thinkpad and an external gpu to play cs:go?
The total should be less expensive than buying a laptop with a hd620 or a gpu otherwise it's not worth it for me.

>>62407046
Oh I've heard the T440p should support up to 2133MHz DD3L RAM.

Although I've seen conflicting reports on this. Maybe some anon can confirm.

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I just got my first thinkpad, x220

Not sure what the thinkvantage fingerprint software is good for and wether i should use it

What do you guys think?

what's a good thinkpad for under $500~ with a GOOD trackpad? there's so many idk what to choose

>>62407339
It's for quick unlocks.

>>62407356
>thinkpad
>trackpad
why

>>62407245


>>62388821
>>62405616

You aren't the only one, I've added that too. Original was what was listed as stock RAM.

t460 or t460s, /g/?

>>62403649
It's giving me a neat sharp (spark?) sound whenever I plug it in, so I suppose I'll try replacing the port. I took the keyboard and bezel off and don't see anything too obviously wrong.

>>62396917
>buy a macbook
might as well throw your money away

>>62407479
Oh, but the battery also gives me nothing. Any ideas from that assessment?

>>62407415
I'm dubious as to whether or not it's hearsay. I can't find any information about it. I've seen people say the BIOS doesn't support an XMP profile with a clock that high.

For anyone that would like to help:
Yesterday my T530 died all of a sudden. It seems to give me a sharp sound whenever I plug in the adapter, but it also does not register the battery as existing either. (No status lights at all).
I took the keybaord+bezel out and nothing visible appears to be fucked.
Any idea if replacing the power port might fix it, or is the mobo fucked?

Anyone have any experience on using Windows 10 on a x200, does it work well?

>>62407513

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-T400-T500-and-newer-T/T440p-RAM-Upgrade/td-p/2027821

https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/5z8wsn/t440p_ram_upgrade/

I can't find any gospel on it, but it sounds like it works. Also it keeps calling my post spam, sod off.

I want to upgrade my netbook to something more powerful but it's the portability which counts. Do the small thinkpads weigh a lot? My netbook is a samsung nc110 10inch display weighing 1.2 kg

>>62407732
Not really. Get an X220. Google says they're 1.58757 kg.

>>62407630
Oh good digging. Some solid info in that leddit post between the ram shit and the heatsink scrubbing.

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>>62407595
Worth to try at least.
If you have a multimeter you could check the diode d1 on there.

>>62407796
Thanks. a X201 seems smaller. Is it just the size that's mainly the difference between the 12.5" and 12.1"

Are there keyboard / trackpad differences?

>>62407471
s is for soldered, so T460
don't believe the lenovo shills telling you s means slim

>>62407878
That picture doesn't look like what's in the machine. The power port seems to be all on its own.

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>>62407630
>reddit

>>62407907
The X201 looks and feels older in my opinion. I like the X220 better.

>>62407915
They stopped doing socketed mobile chips after Haswell mate, the latest thinkpad with one is a T440P.

>>62407931
>hur dur don't post good information you got from google

>>>/fuckoff/

>>62407920
pics? should have some input protection on there.

>>62387846
Those 4712MQ's are very expensive and quite rare, but you should be able to achieve the same effect by throttling the others quad-cores to 37W at 100%.
I don't know how to do this though, but might be useful to add as an aside if someone could describe how.

>>62407947
>from google
sure thing, have some positives!
sites with karma systems deserve to crash and burn

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>>62407947
>They stopped doing socketed mobile chips after Haswell mate, the latest thinkpad with one is a T440P.
So upgrading your laptop CPU is a thing of the past now?

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>>62407988
Yeah, I really had to dig deep for that.

>>62408009
>not having a reflow station in your dystopian cyberpunk garage
enjoy getting killed in the future, fag

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>>62407953
I didn't actually take a picture, but it looks just like this. The yellow part is somehow attached to the carbon-fiber dealio and the other end just plugs into the mobo. I can take a picture, if you'd like, but I'm not sure how helpful it would be.

>>62407931
lol fuck off retard

>>62407974
Yeah, figured it was worth mentioning anyways. Not sure how to throttle max load, but you can get it to clock down to 0.8ghz at idle pretty easily and if you're pushing it hard you'll want to be plugged in regardless.

>>62408009
Yep. Motherboard swap is required these days, and half the time the RAM/storage is soldered on too.

If you want a fast laptop for cheap, buy a T440P/T430/T420 and swap a quad core into it. Anything past that, you're stuffed.

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>>62408049
I can inspect element too
>uk

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>>62408070
>t. plebbitor

>>62408080

Are you seriously implying I bothered editing an entire search result? Stop bitching because it's a source you don't like, the information is valid.

Also, you colossal fucking retard, we don't use cents. I'm pretty sure Homebrand is Australian. It's also completely legal to carry around a pocket knife, ayy lmao.

>>62408059
well, depends on how deep you want to go to fix it. If it's a fucked diode or voltage regulator or something, it can be fixed by soldering but you'd need to do some measuring first. I can't find any good closeups with after some googling so I can't really tell what to measure for now. Motherboards seem to be relatively inexpensive so you could also just replace it.
Replacing the power port isn't going to do anything probably, but you could test if it has some weird short circuit by just unplugging and trying it off the battery (or again, measuring resistance between both positive and negative pins).

>>62408074
This seems to be relevant

https://youtu.be/rwiiGGHsrxA

>>62408074
>Yep. Motherboard swap is required these days, and half the time the RAM/storage is soldered on too.
JUST
ultrabooks were a mistake
what about rugged computers, are those soldered too? I'm thinking the likes of Latitude Latitude Extreme, Toughbook, Getac

>>62408127
lmao
http://www.thetruthaboutknives.com/2013/03/british-knife-laws-hoplophobia-defined-2/

>>62408153
https://www.notebookcheck.net/How-to-Lower-Temperatures-Stop-Throttling-and-Increase-Battery-Life-The-ThrottleStop-Guide-2017.213140.0.html

Generally useful for laptops as well.

>>62408204
Pretty sure they flatout don't make socketable mobile chips anymore. Best bet would be a laptop that takes desktop CPUs, but they're rare, costly, and usually garishly gamer.

>>62408143
I looked at mobo prices and they seem to be in the $60-$200 range, which isn't that great considering I could buy a working T530 fro $100 easily.
I tried running it solely off the battery and it did nothing. What pins are there to measure on this thing, and where can I find them?

>>62408102
Fukkin 'ell. You may as well be an npc.

>giving a guy grief for finding an answer to a problem we had in the thread from a place that activates your almonds
kek

Just this >>62408127

>>62408226
>carry a knife in public without good reason – unless it’s a knife with a folding blade 3 inches long (7.62 cm) or less, eg a Swiss Army knife

Your point? You can carry a pocket knife *without good reason* i.e. for any reason, now either talk about ThinkPads or fuck off to /bant/.

>>62408265
Well you have the plus and minus coming from the adapter. Check if they short. Otherwise, without a closeup of the part where the power plug connects to the motherboard I can't really help you further.

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>>62407009
Thanks for the input; that was my impression as well since I can afford it.

>>62407128
Great! I'm glad to hear it works well for those purposes, and I'm looking forward to modding mine as well. There is a lot to do in /tpg/ about keyboard preferences so I'm curious what mine will turn out to be.

>>62405997
I'd test each stick one at a time and make sure both slots work.
But yeah try checking if 8gb stick works alone. If it does, use it like that or add another 8gb of same model

>>62408265
Oh yeah and also just try reseating all components and test without them and do a mobo reset just to be sure.

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>>62408440
>>62408293
Here's a picture of the mobo, The power port is the power port plug (bottom was from fan).
As for the adapter, the port is just the circle with a single pin so I don't know exactly what to do with that. I've tried other adapters, so it's not the brick itself.
As for the components, I took out the ram, put it back in, put the battery back in, reconnected the keyboard, and it still didn't power on. Are you suggesting I remove and reconnect the CMOS battery and see if that helps?

I appreciate the help, by the way.

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Hello /tpg/. From this rather long thread on W520's http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/lenovo-w520-owners-thread.566338/ i have gathered that in case one is interested in the upper spec range of the T520, then it's almost always better to switch to the W520 for a laptop and a better deal.

Can anybody here confirm this as a general rule? I'm worried that I might be overlooking something important, as I have gotten the same impression.

>>62408488
What kind of specs? If you're looking for a quad core, I'm pretty sure both of those have swappable CPUs.

>>62394558
How can I buy this?

>>62408483
Okay so no input diodes in sight and nothing obviously broken. Can you look for a component in the neighborhood of the power input with the label starting with D? If you do, set your multimeter to diode mode and measure it (one side to the other and vice versa). If it's okay, then I have no idea. My electrical knowledge is still pretty limited.
Yeah try removing the cmos battery for some time and see what happens. Probably not the problem but worth a shot.
It kinda sucks there are no schematics of these laptops to be found online, would make life a bit easier...

>>62408592
http://www.patchdynamics.net/g_Certified_Sticker_READ_DESC/p4320689_17837129.aspx

Wait.

>tfw they went up at 3am and I had zero chance

>>62408593
Most of the motherboard is still covered by the "rollcage" so I can't see anything, and yeah, nothing labeled D in sight.
I unplugged the CMOS for a minute and tried it again. Should I wait longer?

>>62408640
Should be okay. I don't know the t530 that well, can you also reseat the cpu? Probably a lot of work but, if it's possible, worth the try.

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>>62408547
Yes they both have swappable CPU's, and as for specs let's say quad i7 (upper range T520). I know that the W520 has 4 dimms so it can store a bit more memory, and that its quadro gpu is a little bit better than those in the T series, although I won't use that much. They seem otherwise identical, and so my question basically becomes
>any reason to get maxed out T520 over W520?
I'm having a hard time choosing between the various high-end T's and the W520

>>62408677
Yeah, I have easy access to the CPU, but that seems like a lot of work for something that is probably not the issue. I have a real hunch that it's something with the power.

>>62408699
I blew a fuse on a computer's psu once by incorrectly seating a cpu so it's possible to create a short there. But yeah, unlikely.

>>62408693
I think the W has nicer screens.

>>62408727
So I've heard as well. Everything seems to go in the W520's favor, so I guess I have my answer. Thanks.

So I'm the same person with a ded T530. Do the T/W520's and the W530's use the same screen/memory as the T530?
I have the 1920x1080 screen and 8GB of memory which would be a shame to go to waste if I get a replacement.

>>62408780
That's a shame what happened to it?

>>62408780
yes they do

>>62408923
See
>>62407595
>>62407878
>>62407920
>>62407953
>>62408059
>>62408143
>>62408265
>>62408293
>>62408440
>>62408483
>>62408593
>>62408640
>>62408677
>>62408699
>>62408726

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Is this actually legit?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Battery-For-Lenovo-ThinkPad-L512-L520-T410-T410i-T420-42T4737-42T4752-/132287466769?hash=item1eccf28d11:g:tm8AAOSwzRlZiEAQ

>>62409026
>erased lenovo logo
that's not a genuine one

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Booted up to this measage today. What do? I only bought this thing a few weeks ago

>>62409060
disable it in bios

>>62409060
It's trying to PXE boot. Go in the BIOS and tell it no.

Got a t430s and sold my x220. Did i fuck up?

>>62409313
hell no, t430s all the way

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>>62409115
Em how do i do this??

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>>62409387

>>62409387
I believe it's F2 on startup (when you see the lenovo flash screen. You can navigate using the arrow keys and enter key.

>>62409429
I know how to enter BIOS, but I can't find the disable option

Anyone know why the fuck my pic is appearing broken in bios? I followed the instructions and compressed it using gimp.

>>62409495
<640x480, <30kb?

x200
p8600 and a 256gb ssd sandisk

100 euros

now time to order wificards and libreboot it

screen is very dim is there a thing I can do about this

>>62409523
yep. I run with a T530 so I got a bios application that automatically will error out if the image does not meet those specs.

>>62409587
Tried any of the other working images from other threads?

Also, post yours so someone can try it.

>>62409611
Strangely the ones in this thread work, the pepe one and the other weeaboo images kick off well. I am starting to think the gimp compression is fucking up something.

>>62409495
because gimp is a fucking piece of shit

anyway do this >>62409611

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>>62409611
here is the pic

>>62408274
arms laws are political, politics doesn't belong in /bant/

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>>62409771
Good threads are welcome on /bant/. /pol/ is hardly a politics board these days,

>>62409691
post the original, compressing it again makes the colors shitty

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>>62408274
>pocket "knives"

>>62409817
the mods told my comrades to fuck off back to /pol/ with their ideology charged generals

Do you install Libreboot before or after installing your OS? The instructions for flashing include using "flashrom -p internal -V" to find out the flash chip size, which implies that GNU/Linux is already installed (or being run as a live image?).

>>62409862
Politics should stay in /pol/, but a discussion about laws on arms is not against the rules in /bant/.

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>>62409828
original is like 60 kb anon. There is a reason I compressed it.

NEW BREAD

>>62409903

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>>62409903

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>>62409913

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>>62409913
Give that a shot as well, I remade it from scratch.

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N E W T H R E A D

>>62409903

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>>62409817
What is /bant/. Why do new boards keep appearing.. I hate new things.