Why aren't you using KDE?

>using expensive waste-of-money gaymer GPU
>"lol it's not slow, see?"

>>62374698
>570
>gaming
Anon, I...

>>62374720
if you're not gonna game you should be using cheapass shit like an intel card lmao

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>>62374520
All the gay ass animations and glass shit are the worst thing about plasma, it's nice enough without those.

>>62374720
Besides, do you think I actually put any effort into *looking up* this hardware before I make my edgy-ass comments? Nah, I'm just an autistic fuck with no real goal

>>62374520
I use KDE.
Its kinda bloated compared to other DE but its less bloated than windows.

Moved from windows to mint kde day ago, on windows i usually spend 3-5 gb of ram on chrome and WoW 3.3 5.
After switching windows to mint kde and chrome to chromium the same fun costs me no more than 2 gb ram.

>>62374520
Why would my server need a desktop environment? I can remotely control it and write software for it from visual studio.

>>62375673
Why hide windows by default, roll them down

Honestly Cinnamon is light weight and customizable enough.

>>62374520
Ugh, those animations look straight out of Son of the Mask

https://my.mixtape.moe/yxumxa.webm

Fluid smooth

Why isn't OP using Arch?

>>62374520
>Why aren't you using KDE?
Because tiling wms are better?

>>62374520
Disgustingly ugly.
Absurdly buggy.
Just look at that fucking clock.

>>62377827
>autistic meltdown

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>>62377887
not an argument

>>62375673
what task bar is that?

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KDE will never replace XFCE

>>62378018
Pape?

>>62378031
Arc dark theme + Numix icons

Plasma is the only DE that actually looks like it could be a product that costs money.

>>62374520
Some of the applications bundled with the latest package in arch, plasma-meta, are unusable but yes I like the DE.
Is there a stable repo for plasma on arch?

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I tried Manjaro with Plasma recently (their package of it) and it had a nasty memory leak. Went unresponsive frequently and was unusable. Not sure if it was Manjaros issue or KDEs. I like KDE a lot and think itll be the defacto desktop eventually but for now Im sticking with XFCE

>>62377944
Looks like your standard KDE bar without any spacers so the width is dynamic based on what you have open.

>>62378018
XFCE looks like SHIT but is lightweight and CANCER with a RAT logo.

6/10

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Is kde much heavier than xfce?

>>62378139
Probably Manjaro's skin on it. Manjaro is easy to use, but the devs basically release everything in beta with how many bugs and fuck ups there have been.

>>62378193
with customization it can look as good as KDE. im a lazy fuck so i havent done that

>>62374520
Unity is better :)

>>62378213
Well, yeah, but it's still pretty lightweight in comparison to Windows.

>>62378053
I meant the wallpaper

>>62378193
So it'd be perfect for NetBSD then?

>>62378225
justinmaller.com

>>62378215
I've used both before and KDE just seems more customizable. Am I fucking retarded or is that true?

Because I'm using DWM. I don't need fancy doo dads.

>>62374520
Because it runs like shit

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convince me not to post my desktop in this thread

>>62375556
>intel gpu
>on ryzen

>>62378509
your brother will never love so why bother?

>>62378682
you dont eeven know

>smooth animations
>customizable
It's pretty crazy how these are the only features a shill can mention.
Ignoring utility focused WMs like i3 the DE space really is completely dried up.

Pretty disappointing.

>>62374520
so fucking buggy last time i used it.

all Linux DE's are buggy and absolute donkey shit but I'd rather use windows 10 than that pile of garbage

>>62374520
whats that icon theme

Im switching from KDE Neon to Xubuntu. Plasma feels too bloated. Also buggy.

t. pajeet

>>62378876
ha ha ha epic argument, bruh

>>62379002
Nice counterargument, Raja.

>>62374720
WHO HERE I5-2500K GTX560

>>62378720
+ Most KDE applications are pretty good. Dolphin, Okular, Ark, KRunner with Baloo.
+ It also has thumbnails in the file picker.
+ You can theme it to look more like what you'd like.
- It's built up out of a lot of parts, with a lot of files scattered over your system and the design isn't always consistent
- It's maybe too configurable so that the menus and option dialogs look like shit

>>62379205
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ with 9600GT master race.

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>>62374520
Why would I want to use that trash when I have this?

>>62379374
Because you don't wanna use feces that's why.

>>62379392
That's why I'm not on Linux

>>62379424
So why are you on feces?

>>62379239
Pentium 1 master race

>>62379478
>Because you don't wanna use feces
>That's why I'm not on Linux
>So why are you on feces?
You are making no sense

>>62379494
>are making no sense
But I am, why are you using feces if you don't want them?

>>62378735
Did it never occur to you that the parts in your pc are shit and the manufacturer doesn't support linux like they do windows?
You shouldn't be surprised that everything in linux is buggy when you use parts that aren't even remotely foss friendly where the manufacturer only implements workarounds in windows instead of engineering proper working hardware that doesn't shits its bed for the intended workload.

>>62378735
I posted 3 screencasts of my desktop ITT, where is the bug?

>>62379234
Also Dolphin can show image previews on folder icons (like windows).

>>62374520
I was using kde and its really comfy but i like i3 better because im autistic and it tripples my battery life.
Im most of the time using i3 with some kde programs but i keep kde installed because its always nice to have something that works out of the box.

I use Gnome currently and I know it's shit, I know I'm relying on shitty extensions for basic features. I know it's slow and bloated. I know Gnome, GTK, and Red Hat are a cancer.

I really want to like Plasma. I have respect for its speed and low RAM usage, its modular design, its use of Qt, their cooperation with the community, its huge feature set and customisability.

I have three main problems with Plasma though:
>1. There's no Unity/MATE-like HUD feature. I think this was supposed to be in development, but I haven't heard anything new for months, and I have no idea where the code for it is if it's open source.
>2. Those fucking disgusting thick scrollbars. They make everything look so ugly. Why can't KDE Plasma have something like Gnome's overlay scrollbars? Those are so nice and comfy.
>3. When mixing GTK and Qt apps on Plasma, everything just looks shit no matter what I do. Even with Breeze and Breeze-GTK, the GTK windows still don't look quite the same. They have weird borders, weird glitches, and they just look wrong. If I use Gnome, everything looks fine, even Qt applications.

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Nvidia 1

https://webmshare.com/EBNPa

http://webm.land/w/xTtr/


Nouveau

https://webmshare.com/eQvVJ

1 compositing / panel doesnt update when disable (game launch/opengl launch) --> nvidia propritary

2 compositing flashing black screen graphical glitch during compositing enable disable after program launch(default settings uncheck allow applications to block compositing fixes it)
3 mouse scroll causes garbled text in the main menu and other system settings place

4 really inconsistant mouse scroll rates, painfully slow in menus, very fast in dolphin, etc

5 when hovering over many icons (pinned panel programs, files on desktop) tooltip causes very bad lag / choppy fps (depends on theme, some better than others, breeze is one of the worst for it)

6 glitched text in Ark until you resize, also happens in Open File dialog prompts, only happens when Preview is selected, fixes when mouse hovers over any item. Happens every time.

7 wallpaper settings sometimes doesnt display correct preview, displays wrong wallpaper than what is chosen

8 if you install too many themes/window decorations the default Breeze theme gets overwritten by a randomly installed one? (Removing all themes sort of manages to pull Breeze default back though)

9 firefox turns white screen with loading bar if compositing enables or disables at any time (game launch, opengl program) have to restart firefox to fix (fixed in Nightly)

10 Themes dont uninstall properly. After you click remove, it still shows 'Uninstall' in 'Get new themes'

11 sometimes audio will completely bug out and be totally distorted/garbled until you move the slider up & down a bunch of times.

12 switching default audio to HDMI from the panel menu causes audio to glitch out until you switch back & forth and move the volume up and down, gradually fixing it
13 Poor OpenGL Compositor settings. XRender resizes windows, moves windows, much smoother
than the OpenGl renderers

yeah fuck you & fuck KDE op

>>62381758
>Nouveau literally flawless performance
>nvidia official runs like dog shit with JUST KDE

>BUY NEW HARDWARE
works for everything else :)
works on windows :)
works on every other DE :)
fucking idiot

>>62381758
>>62381774
>>62374520
buggy piece of unfinished shit

>>62374520
I'm on KDE myself, you know what they say - old habits they die hard.

>>62375673

>jpg.large

>>62378018

>t.tearing

I'm currently using KDE but I'm thinking about switching to Xfce. Should I do it?

And fuck off with your tearing memes, KDE tears as well.

>>62374520
KDE is worse than unity on 1366x768.

>>62374520
Hey OP I've been using KDE for about a month and there has been some weird behavior with okular and dolphin. Its something that comes and goes and I really don't know what is causing it. What happens is that my system drops to around 15 FPS or less whenever I use the hand tool on okular and some times when I drag-select any number of files/directories on dolphin. I'm using KDE Neon and this problem has been driving me crazy. Its not a big deal really, but if this kind of thing can happen just when I install updates, what guarantees that next time it wont get worst?
Maybe you know something bout this OP? If this problem gets solved my comfy lever would be maximum, I've really enjoyed plasma.

>>62374520

if you're going that route, why not just use Solus?

>>62378776
>>62374520

https://github.com/horst3180/arc-icon-theme
https://github.com/horst3180/arc-theme

I use it with xfce and its pretty

>>62381938
If your OS doesn't care about file extensions, why should you.

>>62382152
this

>>62381296
>HUD
krunner?

>>62376382
They are rolled down by default. That was just a different workspace with a bunch of shit already open.

>>62382813
KRunner doesn't have HUD support.

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>>62379481
>No Z80
underage

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>>62374520
I use something actually customizable

>>62386854
>Ike
Your name is "Isaac" maybe?

>>62386905
Not Isaac
No, its a nickname that stuck when my little brother couldn't pronounce my name right.

>>62374520
thanks but no
I had enough KDE 8 years ago for a week

>>62382813
>he doesn't know what a hud is

>>62386854
How is that customizable?

>>62374520
>>No tearing
>>No stuttering
>>Smooth animations
I'm not sure you're talking about KDE here.
>live boot the official KDE distro, Neon
>tearing immediately obvious
>4K monitor only running at 30Hz
>no refresh rate options beyond 30Hz
At least it's better than last year where it would black screen and refuse to boot on Pascal.

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>>62388730
This is what it would look like with everything but my wallpaper default.

>>62389317
So not really much different. Try KDE.

>>62389317
>>62386854
>actually customizable
KDE offers a shit ton of features and can be extended to no end with QML. Meanwhile, GNOME keeps removing features, the old features are implemented as third party extensions in slow as fuck JavaScript and barely maintainted. Rest of the customization is done with CSS that has to be updated every fucking GNOME patch. Meanwhile, KDE4 themes work on Plasma.

>>62389496
This is true. I wish there were more good themes for Plasma though. It honestly feels like it just has Breeze and Arc, when there are tons of good GTK themes. How hard is it to port a GTK theme to Plasma?

>>62389822
I have created a few popular GNOME themes, but I use KDE now. I have no experience with vector graphics so I can't theme KDE. Thank god Breeze is an amazing and extremely customizable theme.