So now that Firefox (and SeaMonkey) are officially ruined, what

Nightly

>>62372998
Lynx

Jackie Chan

Wait, what's wrong with Seamonkey?

>>62373050
Is Nightly honestly better than Firefox standard in the spying regard? I couldn't imagine anything released by the same people would be but I could be wrong

>>62373087
>in the spying regard
What spying?

>>62373080
Sill ran by Mozilla, still doomed to the same bullshit that's tanking Firefox now

>>62372998
ESR till sping 2018. By then most maintained plugins will work.

>>62372998
Firefox nightly.

>>62373087
>spying
?

>>62373110
>>62373087
Does Nightly crash a lot?

>>62373097
How compatible is IceCat with most addons? I really like its focus on privacy but have heard that it has spotty at best comparability with many major Firefox addons

>>62373145
No

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>>62373107
>most
most
which means, not all.
so it's a lottery folks!

>>62373050
Nightly is the pre-alpha version of Firefox, not a fork. Dumbass.
>>62373087
All the things you hate about modern Firefox is present in Nightly. Don't fall for this meme created by Mozilla shills.

>>62373145
>does nightly crash a lot
I haven't had a crash yet. Using nightly for almost 2 years.

>>62373209
It's still the best version of firefox and any derivatives, not to mention it's better than any other browser as well.
Dumbass.

>that capture pre-2015 Firefox.
That would be Pale Meme, but it will become gradually shittier when current Firefox's development grows further from it and they can no longer apply Mozilla's security fixes back to their old forked version.

Other than that Waterfox, recent versions of Firefox with some botnet stuff like Pocket removed. But most likely also without XUL and an interface that doesn't look like chrome. Developer claims he wants to keep XUL, but I don't see one single person being capable of doing that.

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>>62373232

Firefox isn't ruined, stop using meme derivatives.

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>>62373272
Not an argument

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>>62373097

>>62372998

Pale Moon

>>62372998
>and SeaMonkey

Why is SeaMonkey ruined?

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>>62373298
yes it is.

>>62373342
What is this supposed to prove?

>>62373145
Haven´t had a crash, just a weird bug while updating were you have to force the program to shut down manually to restart it

>>62373357
its all part of their plan.

did you not know anon?

Butterfox

Redpill me on Iridium and chromium forks, are they tied to google?

>>62373391
hate to break it to you but they're all forks of webkit.

>>62373424
Why is that bad news?

>>62373342
Frankly, I'd trust a comment engine by Mozilla more than most others.

>>62373097
how do i install this on windows?

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*unpopular opinion*
as important as self ownership of your personal information is, maybe a browser stepping up their security isn't a good enough reason to settle for a shittier product. Maybe whatever you're so worried about preserving that you feel is now jeapordized by Firefox, would have already been not very secure with the sites/services that you were using, not to mention your ISP. Could these quests for obscure subpar browsers meme just be the equivalent of wearing a tinfoil hat?

>>62372998
Waterfox the only answer.

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>>62372998
I'm enjoying palememe, seems p.good other than the dev freaking out over adnausem

>>62373614
Last GNU IceCat build for Windows was 38.8.0:
https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/38.8.0-gnu2/

The latest version is 52.3.0. There's probably a way to get the 52.3.0 on Windows, but I'm retarded.

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>>62372998
reaaly?
still?
>not using pure norse vivaldi in the current year

>>62372998
Waterfox is breddy gud

Not as fast as nightly, but out of Firefox and Pale Meme this one has the best extension support.

>>62373690
>ghostery
you're not helping your stance about knowing what you're talking about. Fuck off /pol/

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>>62373667
This dog shit design. How on earth did they ever think australis was a good idea?

>>62372998
What is wrong with Waterforx?

>>62373484
>trusting a commenting system co-opted by the fucking WaPo of all lamestream media

>>62373826
WaPo is good though, WaPo told me so. You must be a drumpf shill from /pol/! The

>>62373842
woah, I guess I'm a /goodgoy/ now

>>62372998
Your pic related already encompasses that, why in the hell did you shit up the board with this?

>>62373107
> plugins
lrn2terminology

>>62373900
>oh no there's one less pajeet thread now thanks to this thread
Who cares

>>62373718
Australis isn't the default, it's called themes.

>used firefox 40 for months
>twitter videos not working for a good while
>decide it's time to update to get that shit working
>update takes me to version 43
>videos work again
>notice some drm thing in settings
What exactly is this DRM content? Is it the videos?

>>62373935
> I need/g/ to tell me what to do, I wouldn't dare install something and try it out without/g/'s approval!

>>62373975
> 40 months without an update
Say hi to Ivan for me.
> I don't get the latest bug fixes and am surprised when things break and are fixed by an update
Wew lad.

>>62374026
>reading comprehension

>>62373087
Not sure why anyone would recommend Nightly because of privacy. It comes with telemetry enabled by default (current FF 'only' has archiving by default).

There should be no advantage (in this regard) over Firefox 55.

>>62373690
>fuck off to your containment board

The jews just right now tried to steal my music
>nice try kikes
you will never take our music
FUCK YOU
and whatever you just tried

Weep in tears mother/kiddie fuckrers
https://youtu.be/eeJ-z6lgojU
Stick your talmud with the child fucking rules up your own ass
>Be kike
>Follow the talmud
>3 year olds are ok to fug
I hate jews

you know we are going to kill you right?

I just can't understand
you just push it
your own doom

so like
is it only us that is over sexual?
you seem to be on another planet, I don't mean to be offensive

>>62373145
ublock works which is all i care about

A privacy reminder from YouTube, a Google company
REMIND ME LATER
REVIEW


ffw 3 minute

>>62373690
Despite the fact that I'm using Vivaldi right now, I hate it. Hate the way it handles tab opening. Can't put the tab bar below the address bar. 2/3 of my FF addons aren't here.

what the actual fuck is wrong with standard firefox

Waterfox or Icecat. Palemoon went full moralfag

How's the performance of Waterfox compared to standard Firefox?

>>62373625
Tinfoil hats protect you from nothing because mind control isn't real.

Mozilla and Google are very openly and unapologetically spying on people and censoring the internet for monetary and political reasons. Only a buffoon would tolerate censored search results and strangers rummaging through your mailbox for wrong think.

>>62378460
At worst it's the same as regular Firefox. Mix reports on whether it's better. They're keeping support for legacy addons though, and the dev isn't a retard

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rojopill on the best Firefox version/fork for ricing?

What's the point of Waterfox?
Isn't it just a preconfigured Firefox?

>>62378922
Currently it's just Firefox with a few optimizations, but the developer has gone on the record saying that he wants nothing to do with Mozilla's political bullshit and that he intends to distance himself from them

>>62378922
well for one it is keeping legacy addons into version 57 and it's not preinstalled with garbage.

>>62373469
Because the biggest contributor to chromium is google

So how can you trust chromium browsers? google has already been caught once placing spyware in chromium. there is no reason to think they won't try it again

Also, the codebase is large enough and rapidly changing that a full audit is impossible

>retards still not using Iridium

>>62373614
>>62373685
There's this: https://github.com/gdriggs/icecat-win64

>>62379249
>Iridium
GTFO with your chromium based shit.

>>62378922
Where the fuck do people get these ideas from? Can you not go to the website and do your own research?

>>62379249
>chromium
>privacy
pick one

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>>62373718
Looks fine to me, I think you're just not doing it right.

>>62378145
>Palemoon went full moralfag
explain

>>62379510
Nvm, it's slow af even with nglayout.initialpaint.delay on 0.

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Been using Nightly for a few weeks now. Much faster than FireFox... Waterfox feels slower for me.

>>62373100
Soros funded Mozilla for block Alt Right websites & turn Firefox into a bot net ( spy the user )
>Is Firefox a botnet now?
Not a botnet yet, however they announced that they WILL turn Firefox into a Botnet in near future. (Some) Forks are not affected (yet).
>Will it affect only /Pol/ Alt Right?
They will block & spy anyone who breaks the law. Including HACKERS. Not just authoritarian right.
>Against us too!?
Mozilla will turn against people who fight against large corporations as well such as libertarians, anarchists, hackers & activists.
Mozilla is now Against Free Thought & Speech.

>>62372998
Cyberfox

I've tried them all, and they all have at least 1 flaw which Cyberfox does not have. Recent examples:
> FF ESR
amazing browser, great speed and stability - unable to search with Enter key if you type the whole domain name. (it can only search)

> Waterfox
slowly being devoured by webextensions = no access to local files = no custom startpage = dropped

>>62373104
>Sill ran by Mozilla

That's bullshit though. SeaMonkey is under the control of the SeaMonkey Council, which has nothing to do with Mozilla beyond receiving legal support from them. SeaMonkey won't be implementing any of Firefox's bullshit, just as it hasn't implemented any of it in the past.

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>>62372998
Waterfox is best Fox

>>62378922
>What's the point of Waterfox?
>Isn't it just a preconfigured Firefox?
For now. For awhile.
But the developer declared that :
1. He won't spy or censor (unlike the future Firefox)
2. He will keep support for old add ons (extensions)
3. He is against the Soros+SJW political bullshit

>>62379779
> slowly being devoured by webextensions
How so? Alex already said he was keeping "legacy" extension support indefinitely. Also Cyberfox is already confirmed dead (after 57 or ESR, can't remember which).

>>62379761
Nice FUD, literally nothing you said is true. I hope you are enjoying your Google rupees, Raj.

>>62379855
> For now. For awhile.
Not now. Not in a while.

What features does Waterfox currently have?
Compiled with Clang+LLVM on Linux
Disabled Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) by default
Disabled Web Runtime (deprecated as of 2015)
Removed Pocket
Removed Telemetry
Removed data collection
Removed startup profiling
Allow running of all 64-Bit NPAPI plugins
Allow running of unsigned extensions and full add-ons
Removal of Sponsored Tiles on New Tab Page
Addition of Duplicate Tab option (toggle with browser.tabs.duplicateTab, thanks to PandaCodex)
Locale selector in about:preferences > General (further improved by PandaCodex)

WHAT'S THE BEST MOBILE BROWSER

>>62379928
Browser

>>62379909
So is Water Fox /ourbrowser/?

>>62379962
Pretty much, unless Moonchild gets his shit together and finishes his rebase and apologizes for the Ad Nauseum fiasco (even though I think it's malware).

is waterfox the slowest firefox fork?

>>62379981
Should be faster if anything.

wew i transitioned into waterfox, everything just werks. It transfers tabs, bookmarks etc. Except you just need to change some of the options again.

Quick help for some: I don't like location bar search suggestions, and if you turn provide search suggestions off you need to restart for it to work. If that doesn't work, turn both location suggestions and general suggestions off and restart again.

>>62372998
firefox actually got better

>>62380055
lol no

>>62379990
Well, according to http://browserbench.org/Speedometer/
it is the slowest.
I tested vanilla Firefox, Pale Moon and Nightly. Waterfox was significantly slower than the rest.

>>62373309
Are you retarded?

> m

>>62380157
> muh benchmarks
What were the scores, and in what areas was Waterfox lacking? Benchmarks are almost meaningless in real-world use.

>>62379761
It was called out countless times that soros and mozilla is fake news, why are you still trying to shill this, just disable sending info back in the settings and firefox nightly is the best you can get for a browser

>>62372998
Life is too short to live it while being paranoid and scared. That's the equivalent of someone avoiding travelling because it's too dangerous, or anyway not as safe as staying home all day. I personally don't want to live like that.

At the end of the day, Firefox provides useful services, for realistically very little in return. In theory they might be "tracking" me, but there is a big difference between algorithms using my data, and humans sniffing through them. The same way that there is a world of difference between "Firefox is selling your data to advertisers" vs Firefox does targeted advertising.

Sure, I will be "fine" if I split my email out of Firefox. Or if I don't keep my photos on Firefox Photos. But then my appointment next weekend won't show up on my calendar automatically, or even directly on Firefox Maps. And if I want to lookup that awesome photo from 1-2 years ago, it will be nowhere as straightforward. Instead I will be stuck hunting down the photo in a huge folder, and that's assuming I even got the folder layout right to begin with, when I first manually transferred the photos out of my phone to my external HDD.

Ultimately, I save time by using their services that I can spend on stuff that really matters, instead of worrying about hypotheticals and "slippery slope" arguments.

>>62379855
>he won't spy or censor
Does Firefox do any of these things? Please provide some evidence.

>He will keep support for old add-ons
This means that huge improvement made since 57 won't work on Waterfox, and it will perform worse then regular firefox.

>He is against the Soros+sjw political bullshit
That's nice, but if you were older than 12 you would realize that just because you agree with him on some political opinions, it doesn't mean his browser is worth using.

>>62379928
CAF chromium or lightning browser.
Firefox nightly is pretty meh but I use it for FF sync.

>>62379981
From my experience it's faster than stable and pale meme, but nothing comes close to nightly.

If you're not using Brave, you're just a normie pleb that likes being a slave to SJWs, Google, and Soros.