>l-linux is ready for the desktop

>>62364103
>Want to modify Microsoft software to suit my needs
>Just open it in Resource Hacker and change it

>Want to change an icons color in VLC
>Have to install 1 gb worth of library and compile the program from scratch

This is why I stopped caring about FOSS.

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>>62364103
I know this is bait, but seriously, I can't take anymore of this.
>>>/v/, either actually LEARN informatics or fuck off.
I'm sick, physically and emotionally sick, of your incessant shitposting.
If you don't understand a topic, don't comment on it.
Linux is the furthest away from being obsolete compared to the proprietary and bricked shitfest that is Macintosh software and hardware, or the banal and bloated botware of Micropenis.
If you want play your shitty AAA games (in which they don't even bother anymore), rather than actually contribute to intelligent technology related discussion? That's great.
But newsflash!
We have a containment board for that rubbish:
>>>/v/
>Go home!
>Picture very much related, it is you trying to browse and understand TRUE /g/threads.

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>>62364103
>manage to crash x11 by installing a .deb file
>don't even reboot befor trying sudo startx
>type commands to break even more your distro
>blame linux for your shitty troubleshooting process
>windows is more stable than linux
>implying

>>62364130
I know what went wrong.
They installed Windows. :^)

>downloading tux cart racing from the store
>run the program
>entire screen fills with bright colors and static
>run my taskill keyboard shortcut
>kernel panic
>hard reset
>os won't boot

>>62364103
>Debian
Ha

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>using a server OS that refuses to upgrade from 1970's style text stream technology
>as a DESKTOP
>IN 2017

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA ***inhales****
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>62364130

>>62364245
>using an OS based on a 90s shitty kernel
ahahahahahah
>not being the master of your computer
ahahahahahahahah

>>62364245 see >>62364120 and then:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eLdEw6iWjY

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>>62364103 (OP)
I know this is bait, but seriously, I can't take anymore of this.
>>>/v/, either actually LEARN informatics or fuck off.
I'm sick, physically and emotionally sick, of your incessant shitposting.
If you don't understand a topic, don't comment on it.
Linux is the furthest away from being obsolete compared to the proprietary and bricked shitfest that is Macintosh software and hardware, or the banal and bloated botware of Micropenis.
If you want play your shitty AAA games (in which they don't even bother anymore), rather than actually contribute to intelligent technology related discussion? That's great.
But newsflash!
We have a containment board for that rubbish:
>>>/v/
>Go home!
>Picture very much related, it is you trying to browse and understand TRUE /g/threads.

>>62364252
kek

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>>62364103

>>62364309
That's what a Win user's life is like..

Meme's aside I've used arch for a few years now and have never had a kernel panic after an update or when installing new software, even stuff from AUR.

>>62364815
I was actually talking about the NT kernel

>>62364120
get 4chanx and blacklist these threads

>>62364103
>through .deb installer
>Not just using the AUR

>>62365021
I think I will, these really test my sanity.

>>62364120
>le i am so smart for using linux!! get out n00bs!!!!

you know that's a useless skill right? managing a linux server is marginally useful but working with that buggy desktop is worthless. kys yourself.

>>62364103
fake and gay

>>62364103
>installs a package manually instead of using the repos and then blames linux when it fails
>sudos everything
kys

>>62365320
>Useless skill
>One of the foundation skills for things such as pentesting
What did the retard mean by this?

>>62366031
>One of the foundation skills for things such as being a skiddy
ftfy

>>62366100
>Lol skiddy, skidddy!
Ah yes, because you don't require to take steps to get into a profession, you just magically appear at the top.
Fuck off you disingenuous retard, stop acting like you know shit, you're as thick as a brick made of shit.

>installing application through .deb installer
>not just using apt-get

>>62364119
Just change it same way with resource explorer, dumbass.

>>62364120
>it's someone hurt my freetard feefees episode
Life will be hard when you finish that babby freshmen automata course on the pic and delve into the real world.

>>62364103
1. Why the fuck would you run a display server as root you retard?
2. Why would you use a .deb installer when you could just use the cli to do it? And why would you download a binary anyway? If you're on Debian/ubongo there's going to be a ppa for whatever you need

>>62366185
>Pajeet thinks he's Kernighan
I've got some news for you...

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>>62366184
>>62366184
>dumbass
>hasn't even tried to do it
I had to edit the source files and rebuild it. I spent almost 6 hours on it, and I still need to edit icons remove the disgusting orange. ;_; It is everywhere in 3.0.0

>>62366325
>12 year old thinks that Kernighan is somehow an impressive name in CS fit for his autistic straw man

>>62366449
>Lowest-tier bait
Wat

>>62366136
just wait until your job gets automated. unless you're finding actual 0-days by yourself, in which case your OS is irrelevant.

>>62366455
>Kernighan is a CS genius because my buddies on 4chan like his C book a lot
You have to go back.

>>62364185
>store
?????

>>62366510
>What are stepping blocks?
Stop with the sophistry.

>>62366542
>Keeps making low-tier bait
You have to go back to Plebbit.

>>62364185
The fuck is "the store"

>>62364252
??? ???

>>62364103
>anecdotal evidence

Lul, get a load of this pleb.

>open this thread
>X crashes

>>62364120
No, anon. Picture IS related, and it makes me mad. Life isn't fair. Programming video game physics should not entail so much autistic bullshit math. Because it does, because the Universe is cruel enough to impose this upon creatures with brains as smol as mine, I will make people like you miserable too. I will never stop. You have stage 4 cancer, and it's people like me, and you'll either die of it or live in perpetual pain, but you'll never get rid of it. Just like my cancer is the Universe, your cancer is me. :) We suffer together, forever.

>>62366346
Patches are welcome.

>>62366718
That's your fault for being retarded.

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>>62366591
>>62366557

>>62366718
>video game physics should not entail so much autistic bullshit math
Literally the most important part there is the math.

>>62364103
>things haven't happened

>>62364120

Even Stallman himself said he would never waste time learning how to install an operating system. Fuck off.

I'm a Linux user and it's like walking while hobbled.

>>62364309
>master of your computer
>"look mom I can edit some text files!"
>can't actually do anything practical with your computer

>>62366908

Math yes, but CS theory?

>>62367115
I can do everything a windows OS can do. Only I can disable every single thing I don't like and can chose when to shutdown/retard my machine

>>62364103
>attempt - as a linux noob

Found the culprit

We should perban anyone who makes and posts in those threads.

>le inb4 unironically "then u will get ban too!!1"

>>62364103
>installing application through .deb installer
is it really that hard to type on two commands without fucking up?
>have to run 50 obscure commands to reconfigure xorg.conf
it took you 50 commands to navigate to the proper directory and replace xorg.conf with your xorg.conf.backup?

>>62367133
>I can do everything a windows OS can do.
Unless you use Windows. No you can't.

How about those professional applications? Wine does not count, Windows can do Linux also with wrappers. Not that they run well in Wine in the first place for actual work.
How about those new modern games? Oh wait, shitty DirectX in Wine and extremely small support from devs so no again.

>>62366817
I don't think you understand the situation. You literally are required to rebuild the package in order to change application icons. The only patch would be desaturated icons replacing the default in the source files.

>>62364103
>installing application through .deb installer
Thank god, you posted the name or link to the binary, also the log of X and why startx didn't werked.
I wonder if you still expect anything good from this thread. Also there is no bad marketing for linux, so you should stop anti evangelism because it will backfire as always.

>>62364119
>The current year
>using VLC

It's your own fault.

>>62364103
>sudo startx
>not being SU in the first place

>>62364103

>installing application through .deb installer

there's your first issue

>>62367205
>2017
>using 4chan
No, it is your fault.

>>62364119
>what are icon themes

>>62367230
>I run everything as administrator even when I don't need to
wintoddlers everybody

>>62367163
Not the fault of the OS, fault of the devs

>>62365320
>linux server

You have a sysadmin doing it, not some moron off of /g/ because anon, from /g/ would go and install some shitty gentoo over the default, say novell, because of "muh freedums"

>>62364309
>>using an OS based on a 90s shitty kernel
like it matters to you
>not being the master of your computer
like you understand fuck all about, say, HIDs,

>>62367255
Things that can't change VLC's task tray icon.

>>62367105
Stallman is a normal person who was simply a pioneer, however, he's still fallible.
Stop using an appeal to celebrity to justify your effete behaviours.

>>62364103
didn't hapen

>>62367306
High level autism.

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>>62367163
>the devs are assholes, therefore it's Linux's fault
>gamedevs have been trained to use a Windows-only library and this is Linux's fault
>if you can run a program through Wine it doesn't count because I feel like it
>alternative programs don't exist

>>62364245
>1970's style text stream technology
what is that

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>>62367306

>>62367365
The point was, I am able to easily modify proprietary software to suit my needs and the FOSS software restricts this for some reason; possibly to add inconvenience to those who use proprietary operating systems.

>>62367555
>task tray
You posted the task bar icons, but thank you for trying.

>>62367595
If you don't like it, add a theme switcher. There's a reason you can compile it yourself, it's because that means you can modify it on a deeper level than WinHax can.

>want to install a program on (((Windows)))
>have to follow an installation wizard, carefully avoiding to install some toolbar
>have to reboot my computer to complete the installation of the program

meanwhile on ubuntu
>sudo apt-get install X
>enter password
>press y
>it's installed

s-sure great a-anon!

>>62367844
>themeswitcher
What? I am trying to change an icon that the FOSS version of the software does NOT ALLOW you to change.

You aren't telling me anything that I don't already know regarding FOSS
>>62364119
In fact:
>>62364494
&
>>62366346

>>62364103
>>attempt - as a linux noob - to "sudo startx"

Sounds like you installed Arch... Why the hell would you do that? Arch is an OS that is DESIGNED to fail and cause errors. It's for people who like to spend time with diagonalizing weird errors.

>>62367163
>seriously implying modern AAA gaymes are worth a shit

>>62368213
>implying any gayme is worth a shit
>implying anything is worth a shit if it is made by Man

>installing application through .deb installer
-snap packs
>click the "see more details" button
-"all desktops are the same"
>x crashes
-wayland
>attempt - as a linux noob - to "sudo startx"
-don't use xorg as root retard
>apparently this is a big no-no
-wayland fixes this with non priv users
>have to run 50 obscure commands to reconfigure xorg.conf
-wayland
>ultimately have to reinstall windows because the linux installation is so fucked up
-try again child

>b-but linux is just as stable as window u guise
-it is, that's why 90% of servers are Linux, and 5% are *BSD.

Who even uses Azure?

>>62368282
>that's why 90% of servers are Linux
[Citation Needed]

>>62368312
NASA and the military use it.
ISS uses it.
the 85%+ of routers have embedded linux.
Androids which account for over 80% of worldwide phones has a Linux kernel.

The majority of websites run on a LAMP stack which can be verified via your browser.

You are clearly a dumb /v/ poster.

>>62367310
>Stallman is a normal person
most fallacious statement in the whole thread

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>>62368282
>Who even uses Azure?
Azure is destroying AWS in the enterprise market

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>>62368348
>The majority of websites run on a LAMP stack which can be verified via your browser.

>>62368384
You clearly misunderstood his phrasing.

He means that stallman isnt a computer scientist.
He's a philosopher, and foss advocate.
His power is of speech and law.

Linus is our Engineer, Stallman is our socialite.
You saying that he lacks technical skill doesn't disprove the fact that without his guidance and proposition of the GPL for all of these years we would of been lost to monopolies and proprietary software.

Basically IBM 2.0: skynet edition
People once called him crazy.
He was vindicated with snowden and assange

>>62368448
>web dev marketshare =/=w3 websites
>>>/v/

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>>62368470
>cries /v/ when they can't provide citation and when the citation provided proves them false

Never change, /g/.

>>62368553
>"citation"
Your image clearly says "web server developers" at the top.

>>62368282
Just my personal experience, but most servers i've worked with run Windows, Linux servers tend to be virtual servers running under Windows. I'm not sure how true that is in general but I've worked with some large companies. Just saying, market share numbers don't tell the whole story in this case as a significant portion of those Linux servers could be depending on Windows.

>>62368553
>that image
wew.

>>62368619
I've actually never seen any company trust Windows to run anything important, I've seen windows under Linux but rarely.

>>62368577
It isn't ``my'' image, and it also says
>sites
>927,540,454
>Microsoft
>51.39%
>Market share

Your post says:
>hurr
>durr
>I am such a gigantic faggot.

See the difference.

>>62368553
Don't want to break your fun, but ms isn't a httpd. They also have at least 2 supported and one of them runs on linux.

>>62367306
Snort

>>62364252
Looks like you learned how to use zenity, good job, anon!

>>62365023
>Using arch
>Literally the most bloated distro
>Muh minimalism

Get out. Just get out.

>>62366346
>dark as my soul.png
cringe as fuck

>>62364103
Open terminal
Type: sudo dpkg -i
Drag the deb file on the terminal so it says: sudo dpkg -i "path/file.deb"
Hit enter
Type password
Wait for install
If something goes wrong it will literally tell you how to fix it, usually running another command in the terminal which you can copy-paste.
This isn't hard unless you're 3 years old. I even had to make up steps.

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>>62369678
I call it ``High Chance of Fun, Zero Chance of an STD ''.

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>>62367440

>>62367271
with stuff like AWS and azure, which most companies use now, sysadmins are becoming less relevant. "cloud engineers" are more relevant. and as companies move toward serverless architectures (ie aws lambda) even they are becoming less relevant. sysadmins will soon find themselves unemployed.

>>62369546
Retard

>>62368384 see >>62368449; this anon understood my rhetoric perfectly.

>>62369911
To be fair, i'm a "cloud engineer," and my job is basically sysadmin writ large.

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>>62368448
See this:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems
Specifically the part relating to infrastructure:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Market_share_by_category

>>62364120

t. social and mental retard

>>62370361
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Market_share_by_category
Should be in greentext, forgive my formatting error.
I'd like to note many sources have more weight than 1 source, just a tip before you reply.

>>62370361
Seems like after 7, windows will be irrelevant platform.

>>62370385
Whoa, that's strong coming from a /v/ictim.
Go back to your banal AAA games.
Homeward bound:
>>>/v/

>>62370394
Long-overdue, I suppose people don't like getting spied on.

>>62368282
>Who even uses Azure?
it pains me to say so, but Azure is quickly becoming the most used service

>>62370506
For who? Compared to aws or self hosting it's painfully expensive. Aws also way larger than azure.

>>62370283
It's objective truth. Please don't tell me you're one of those autists who think arch is actually minimal.

All chunked out packages like -common and -data are merges into one.
All documentation and header files are included in the package as well, bloating file size again.
All packages are built with all compile flags turned on, boosting up memory usage and forming extra unnecessary dependencies that drag in even more of these bloated packages that you didn't want.

The *only* thing arch has going for it is the AUR. It's pretty frickin' neato. But that doesn't make up for the distro hosting it being hot trash.

>>62370565
Retard

>>62370929
"You" just failed the turing test.

>>62371001
Factually speaking not all humans are capable of passing the Turing test.
Some simply aren't sentient enough.

>.deb installer
kek

>>62372742
I switched my gf to Linux.

>>62364103
stick to windows, manchild

>>62364103
is it the same vidya playing, windows fellating manchild posting these threads everyday? i haven't even seen anyone actually get trolled by these in years and yet they always show up sure as the sun will rise. how autistic are you to post this shit constantly for YEARS? thats some serious mental illness.

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>>62373603
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SySZdvsFYt4

>>62365404
and yet you idiots will claim installing outside the package manager in linux is easy

>>62373661
It _is_ easy. There used to a simple directory you plopped programs into, /opt I believe. Look into Slackware system management to see how it should be done. They make it easy.

What becomes hard is the dependency pit you can get into when trying to build software from scratch. There was a time when I only compiled my desired software on Debian. It got pretty bad towards the end, but systemd caused me to leave Linux entirely.